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Old 22-05-2019, 05:56 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the law. It is the judges' fault. The law does not specify the level of compensation to be paid out. Or for what type of injury.

That's the judges' doing. They are not accountable to anyone.
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Old 22-05-2019, 07:04 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the law. It is the judges' fault. The law does not specify the level of compensation to be paid out. Or for what type of injury.

That's the judges' doing. They are not accountable to anyone.
There is a book of quantum of course...
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Old 22-05-2019, 07:28 PM
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There is a book of quantum of course...
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Old 23-05-2019, 06:23 AM
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Nothing more ridiculous that a lot of the compo claims before the courts.

If the courts consistently authorize pay-outs on patently ridiculous claims then you'd be a fool not to grab something for yourself.
Eh no, some of us fall over or fall off things and we just acknowledge it's our own stupid fault.

It's not done to improve safety, let's call it what it is, greed. Some dope of a woman incapable of using a swing, who's not short of cash by any means, running off to the legals to grab a piece of the action. A shameless gowl.


This money grabbing is a cancer on Irish society. Can't even run a water park or leisure facilities in this litigious kip because of this shit. Kids can't have playgrounds because little Johnny might scratch his finger.
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Old 23-05-2019, 06:37 AM
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There is a book of quantum of course...
Isn't the Book of Quantum only a guide to what amounts may be paid out for various claims? The Judge does not have to go by those figures. So paulgorm's post is correct.
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Old 23-05-2019, 06:46 AM
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Mihole wading in now says this claim flies right in the face of campaign to reduce claims..
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Old 23-05-2019, 07:18 AM
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Eh no, some of us fall over or fall off things and we just acknowledge it's our own stupid fault.

It's not done to improve safety, let's call it what it is, greed. Some dope of a woman incapable of using a swing, who's not short of cash by any means, running off to the legals to grab a piece of the action. A shameless gowl.


This money grabbing is a cancer on Irish society. Can't even run a water park or leisure facilities in this litigious kip because of this shit. Kids can't have playgrounds because little Johnny might scratch his finger.
Funny that nanny-state McDowell is the one to take her on, and I can’t ever remember agreeing with anything he’s said before, but he is spot on this time. PWNd her good yesterday, she should be ashamed of herself

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“if the Government is serious about driving down the claims culture we cannot stand idly by when adults lose their seat with two objects, one in each hand, and fall off a swing and then claim there should have been a supervisor looking after them”.

He added: “Especially when it comes from somebody who has so much public influence and clearly influence over Government policy on these matters.”
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Old 23-05-2019, 07:25 AM
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It doesn’t matter whether she wins or loses her case now. Serious damage done to FG on their plans to reduce compensation payouts.
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Old 23-05-2019, 07:44 AM
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we are all taught when we are young to hold on tight.

Gas that fg are the party trying to stem the flow of soft tissue injury claims and here comes one of their own swinging in for some loot for herself.

compo cheats cheat us all, leo.
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Old 23-05-2019, 07:48 AM
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Mihole wading in now says this claim flies right in the face of campaign to reduce claims..
Has he forgotten about Mary Hanafin;s mother's claim for a fall in the Dail. FF &FG two cheeks of the one dirty arse.

Fiach Kelly Political Correspondent

February 5 2011 5:00 AM


The mother of Tourism Minister and Fianna Fail deputy leader Mary Hanafin was paid €30,000 in compensation following a fall during a visit to Leinster House.

Mona Hanafin took a personal injuries claim, which was ultimately settled, after sustaining an injury in 2007.

The claim cost the taxpayer a total of €62,500 when legal costs associated with the case were added.

The case was settled by the State Claims Agency in early 2009 after a number of courts cases were adjourned.

Ms Hanafin was represented by Paul Kelly & Co, Leixlip, Co Kildare. The company was paid almost €21,000 in legal costs.

Mr Kelly, a former Fianna Fail councillor, was appointed as a District Court judge late last year.

The costs were never disclosed by the Houses of the Oireachtas but are revealed in a wide-ranging Freedom of Information request by journalist Gavin Sheridan from the website thestory.ie.

After 12 months of wrangling, the Oireachtas finally released documents showing spending worth €38,042,971.24 from 2009.

The Houses of the Oireachtas Commission held a Christmas dinner in January 2009 for €625.



One of the biggest critics of the compensation culture, Minister Mary Hanafin, has refused to comment after her mother won damages follwing a fall at Leinster House.
Ms Hanafin's mother has settled a personal injuries claim against the State after the fall while on a visit to Government buildings in 2007.

Mona Hanafin brought the case in late 2007, naming the Taoiseach, Ireland and the Attorney General as defendants in her claim.

It was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount on January 22.



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The claim arose nearly four years after Mary Hanafin, then the minister for education, hit out at an emerging compensation culture in Irish schools.

"Children will run, children will fall and children will hurt themselves," said Ms Hanafin, who is now the Minister for Social Welfare. It was "ludicrous" that some schools were introducing no-running policies in the playground due to fear of litigation, she added.

After several adjourned court dates, Mona Hanafin's action was settled by her Leixlip-based solicitors Paul Kelly & Co.

The extent of her injuries is not known.

A spokeswoman for the minister told the Herald the Fianna Fail TD did not make any comment at all on the claim.

"The minister did not make any comment, just that it's a private matter for her mother," she added.

Mona Hanafin is a devoted follower of Padre Pio.

She supported the construction of a community college in Athy, Co Kildare, last year.

Speaking on RTE radio, she said she would pray to St Pio to ask him to expedite the construction of the school.

In 2005, Mary Hanafin said parents should not look for others to blame if their child falls.

"There is absolutely no reason why there should be a 'no-running' policy in schools," Ms Hanafin said.

"Parents are going to have to realise that if they want their children to be able to lead normal lives, it is not always someone else's fault if they fall," she added.



Rank

Compared with other countries, Ireland ranks near the top of the litigation league table with the number of insurance claims made for personal injury coming close to levels seen in the US.

Since 2002, there has been a decline in the number of cases against the state.

Claims against employers have fallen by 88pc, and personal liability claims have dropped by 58pc.

At the time, the State Claims Agency was dealing with 2,470 employer liability/public liability/ property damage claims, which, it was estimated, could cost the State €115m.

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