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Old 29-02-2012, 08:41 AM
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Of course I remember all the rip-off Ireland stuff; wasn't that all led by Eddie Hobbs? But if the last gov was responsible for every act of dishonesty or greed by every business or individual during their reign, does that mean that the current gov are responsible for it all now? Come on!
All i'm saying is that it was FG that launched that website.
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Old 29-02-2012, 09:10 AM
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All i'm saying is that it was FG that launched that website.
They also gave George Lee a go in politics...
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Old 29-02-2012, 09:27 AM
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The current government is only 1 year in power, but they are profiteering already. All vacancies on quangos / semi-states, judge appointments etc are being filled by their own party hacks. Advisers - Kathleen Lynch appointing her husband (with his, ahem, chequered career) is the worst example.

Kenny promised a new style of government - honesty, transparency etc. Given their majority in the Dail, they have as close to absolute power as you can have in a democracy. Add in a compliant media (particularly RTE). FG / Lab are ignoring the seething resentment against them - particularly in rural areas. Maybe they have become so arrogant that they are not even aware of the anger.

For the first few months of Taoiseach Kenny, I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt - but he is turning out to being as big a dope as we all feared - including many in his own party.

It took FF a few years to become arrogant - it has taken these clowns only a few months.

The big issue is what alternative will be there in 4 years time, if FF cannot reform and regroup.
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Old 29-02-2012, 10:08 AM
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They also gave George Lee a go in politics...
And it didn't take George Lee long to figure out that he could do a lot more back in RTE than he could ever do in Dail Eireann.

Which makes me wonder who is really running the country!
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Old 29-02-2012, 01:26 PM
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The current government is only 1 year in power, but they are profiteering already. All vacancies on quangos / semi-states, judge appointments etc are being filled by their own party hacks. Advisers - Kathleen Lynch appointing her husband (with his, ahem, chequered career) is the worst example.

Kenny promised a new style of government - honesty, transparency etc. Given their majority in the Dail, they have as close to absolute power as you can have in a democracy. Add in a compliant media (particularly RTE). FG / Lab are ignoring the seething resentment against them - particularly in rural areas. Maybe they have become so arrogant that they are not even aware of the anger.

For the first few months of Taoiseach Kenny, I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt - but he is turning out to being as big a dope as we all feared - including many in his own party.

It took FF a few years to become arrogant - it has taken these clowns only a few months.

The big issue is what alternative will be there in 4 years time, if FF cannot reform and regroup.
Spot on.
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Old 29-02-2012, 05:17 PM
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Eamonn Ó Cuiv gone.

Split imminent?
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Old 29-02-2012, 05:25 PM
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I'd say it'll be a Blaney/HealyRae independent FF/fix-the-local-roads style split though rather than a new party.

You'd have to think that he sounded out his boys about a heave first but found no support. You'd assume this means he's isolated.

Either FF reinvent themselves as a social democratic party (there's room there with labour up for a walloping at next election, FG moving right and rest of opposition hard left) or they are gone after the next GE.
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Old 29-02-2012, 05:43 PM
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Mmm - anti treaty stance from Dev Og

Interesting
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Old 29-02-2012, 05:53 PM
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Knives are out for MM big time now I'd say. The Sindo pulling hard for John McGuinness, Dev Óg gone.

Massive test for MM, but he's probably the best politician (not much of a complement) left in FF at the moment.
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Old 29-02-2012, 06:03 PM
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O Cuiv is now FFs only backbench TD.
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