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Old 06-03-2013, 01:04 PM
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On Ahern’s watch, the Irish economy almost doubled in size, while the numbers at work increased by one-half . . The unemployment rate declined from 10.4 per cent in 1997 to 4.6. In the 10 years from 1987 to 1997, net emigration amounted to 83,000 people. This migratory experience was wholly transformed in the succeeding decade. . . In the 10 years to 2007, the net immigration inflow reached 392,000. The annual volume of Irish consumer spending on goods and services has risen by four-fifths since 1997 . . average per capita living standards have risen by some 50 per cent over the past decade. Thus, Ahern can look back on an extraordinary record of economic achievement.

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On Ahern’s watch, the Irish economy almost doubled in size, while the numbers at work increased by one-half . . The unemployment rate declined from 10.4 per cent in 1997 to 4.6. In the 10 years from 1987 to 1997, net emigration amounted to 83,000 people. This migratory experience was wholly transformed in the succeeding decade. . . In the 10 years to 2007, the net immigration inflow reached 392,000. The annual volume of Irish consumer spending on goods and services has risen by four-fifths since 1997 . . average per capita living standards have risen by some 50 per cent over the past decade. Thus, Ahern can look back on an extraordinary record of economic achievement.

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On Ahern’s watch, the Irish economy almost doubled in size, while the numbers at work increased by one-half . . The unemployment rate declined from 10.4 per cent in 1997 to 4.6. In the 10 years from 1987 to 1997, net emigration amounted to 83,000 people. This migratory experience was wholly transformed in the succeeding decade. . . In the 10 years to 2007, the net immigration inflow reached 392,000. The annual volume of Irish consumer spending on goods and services has risen by four-fifths since 1997 . . average per capita living standards have risen by some 50 per cent over the past decade. Thus, Ahern can look back on an extraordinary record of economic achievement.

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And he's perfectly right.

A soft landing was in the offing, it was those who were ideologically impure who were the fools.

They should probably go kill themselves.
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And he's perfectly right.

A soft landing was in the offing, it was those who were ideologically impure who were the fools.

They should probably go kill themselves.
We sure showed dem Germans how to run an economy, wha'.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:34 PM
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Those pesky Lehmann brothers ruined it for everybody.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:40 PM
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Guardian readers pay tribute to man who would have banned the Guardian 06-03-13

GUARDIAN readers were today in mourning for a man who would have banned the Guardian if it was in Venezuela.



The people’s champion was very fond of being agreed with
The death of President Hugo Chavez has robbed Britain’s left wing of an heroic figure whose bravely authoritarian regime stood up to America and journalism.

Julian Cook, from Finsbury Park, said: “He was sort of democratically elected and in many ways Venezuela was kind of almost a free country. I’ll miss him so much.”

Emma Bradford, a level six Guardian reader from Stevenage, added: “He introduced free healthcare and free education and if you have those two things then why on earth would you need a free press?

“Yes, we have those things in Britain and we have a free press, but – for our sins – we are much more complex than the noble Latin American peasants.”

She added: “I only use Venezuelan petrol in my Saab because it has been properly taxed.”

Tom Booker, from Hackney, added: “Journalists would have had a much easier time in Venezuela if they had just agreed with President Chavez. If you read his autobiography you’d realise that he was actually very nice.

“The oil tax paid for precious, beautiful things like schools, hospitals, secret police and the wildly popular TV show Stop What You Are Doing and Listen to the President.”

Meanwhile, tributes were also paid to Chavez by the usual arseholes.

Ken Livingstone, George Galloway and Gerry Adams all said he was a great man, which is pretty much all you need to know about Hugo Chavez.
It's funny coz it's true

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Esp. the bit in bold...
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We sure showed dem Germans how to run an economy, wha'.
Indeed.


http://www.independent.ie/national-n...h-1081773.html
THE German Embassy in Ireland has moved to defuse a diplomatic row after the German Ambassador described Ireland as 'coarse' and criticised our public service system.

Christian Pauls was given a firm diplomatic reprimand over the remarks which "talked down" Ireland to an 80-strong group of potential investors. He was given the verbal rap on the knuckles by the Department of Foreign Affairs' Secretary General, Dermot Gallagher, on the explicit instructions of Minister Dermot Ahern.

He was told bluntly last Thursday morning that his remarks at a function in Clontarf Castle in Dublin to visiting German industrialists were "inaccurate, misinformed and inappropriate at a public forum".

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In his 15-minute speech the ambassador said:

- Ireland was a "coarse place".
- Junior ministers here earned more than the German Chancellor.
- Some 20pc of the population were public servants.
- Our "chaotic" hospital waiting lists would not be tolerated anywhere else.
- Wage demands were too high.
- Our immigration policy was wrong and we had learned nothing from Germany or the Nordic countries.

He also cited the doctors' rejection of €200,000 a year posts on the basis that this sum was "Mickey Mouse" money and referred to the former dominant position of the Catholic Church within the country.

His listeners, mainly members of the German Federation of Buying and Marketing groups, representing medium-sized businesses, loved his delivery.

One Irish man in the audience was Gay Mitchell MEP who said that if he had made the comments in the Dail he would have been accused of party political partisanship of a totally imbalanced nature.
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Christian Pauls was spot on and deserves credit for pointing out the bloody obvious.

But some things never change.

The Irish Times - Wednesday, March 6, 2013Junior doctor paid €167,000 in overtime

Overtime payments totalling €167,000 to a junior doctor in a hospital in the southeast “shouldn’t have happened”, according to the Health Service Executive.

HSE chief operating officer Laverne McGuinness described the sum as “extortionate” but said it was an “outlier” among overtime payments to junior doctors generally. The overtime was run up when the doctor was on leave and worked in a different hospital, Ms McGuinness told the Oireachtas health committee yesterday.

The HSE had made significant progress in reducing the working hours of junior doctors, she said, but smaller hospitals in remote locations sometimes were not able to support the larger rotas needed to achieve this objective.
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To counterbalance the right-wing propaganda from the Fox news intellectuals on the PROC...but then when you are getting your opinions from shit media you will never change!

http://raniakhalek.com/2013/03/05/wh...ishment-press/
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To counterbalance the right-wing propaganda from the Fox news intellectuals on the PROC...but then when you are getting your opinions from shit media you will never change!

http://raniakhalek.com/2013/03/05/wh...ishment-press/
I haven't called him a dictator. Economically incompetent, yes, dictator, no. He was elected fairly. As was Bush, Blair and Ahern. Does not make them leaders to be respected.

The 2002 coup. Chavez led coups himself. That point in no way marks him as a good leader.

On the repression of media, that might have been a defensible point if Chavez hadn't followed through and closed most media that didn't agree with his point of view. Great leaders do not repress vocal dissent, they present better arguments.

The 'proof' that redistribution policies work is easily taken apart. For the growth in GDP, almost all of that is directly attributable to the massive rise in the oil price in that time period, despite what that article says.
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In addition, many of the figures are either wrong, or out of date, for example the debt to GDP figure is about 4 years old, it is now estimated to be 45%, although it is disputed as the figures from the government are inconsistent.

Do not try to label people on here as Fox loving right wingers. For starters, both myself and Ho Chi would best be described as leftists. You do not help your cause with that sort of carry on.
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