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Old 14-06-2019, 09:38 PM
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I think if someone feels entitled to tell others they dont have the right to autonomy over their own body it is quite funny that the same person sees no issue with demanding that their corpse be given bodily autonomy.

Isnt it ironic..

Doncha think?
I would say both views are more consistent with a selfish outlook than irony, both are not mutually exclusive of course. But the former probably induces the latter therefore I would place a greater emphasis on that.
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Old 15-06-2019, 09:53 AM
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By it's nature the opt out ruling will mean that the majority opt in, so there should be a plentiful supply of organs from those who choose that option to go around without there being any need to look askance at those who choose to opt out, the idea that they should be lectured or labelled as being extraordinarily selfish is deeply troubling to me, people can have all sorts of reasons for opting out, not all of them selfish ones, just because you are happy to be carved up for organ harvesting after you pass on doesn't mean that everybody else is of the same mind.
Rox, you’re better than this.

I haven’t said they’re selfish btw.

But they’re not pro life. A pro life person would be in favour of saving life. They would donate. It’s irrelevant how many others do it.
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Old 15-06-2019, 09:58 AM
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I'm sure most people believe in the right to life and not just those who attached a moniker to themselves because of their views on abortion. Organ donation is not the only thing that facilitates the right to life, if everyone donated more money, food, expertise I'm sure millions of people in this world would not die of malnutrition on a daily basis.

Do we give this a second thought on a daily basis, not a chance (and I include myself), you can call that a choice of ours to do the minimum or say no one is pro life or whatever but I don't really get your equivalence between abortion pro lifers as if they should be judged by a higher moral code than the rest of us, it would be a nice get out of jail card to absolve us for doing bugger all ourselves, but it is bullshit to imply they are somehow hypocrites whilst the rest of us are not.
This is a ridiculous argument Captain.

We all have lived to live, bills to pay, challenges to face.

A dead person doesn’t have any of those things. They’re dead. If you make a choice to keep your organs, that might save someone else, then you are not pro life.
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