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Old 25-01-2010, 02:16 PM
Falling At Your Feet Falling At Your Feet is offline
 
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Have been looking around recently,(just looking) and some of the MPG on some of the newer diesel low emission cars are fairly impressive.

All figures below are Extra Urban driving, but all give 60 plus on town driving.

23,180 ex works, Motor Tax 104
Golf 1.6 TDI Blue Motion 105HPgives 83.1 mpg or 3.4 L/100 kms
http://www.volkswagen.ie/media/count...nuary_2010.pdf

24,847 ex works, Motor Tax 104
Volvo C30 1.6 D DRIVe (Start/Stop) gives 83.5 mpg or 3.4 L/100kms
http://www.volvocars.com/ie/all-cars...ical-spec.aspx

21,492 ex works, Motor Tax 104
Peugeot 308 Hdi 1.6 90 bhp gives 74.6 mpg or 3.9L/100 kms
http://www.peugeot.ie/templates/peug...&specs/308.pdf

Theres a general consensus around that the Peugeot 308 has the best fuel economy of any car around, but it clearly does not.

There is a bit of a price premium for driving some of these, but if you are doing a lot of mileage, and only paying 104 in motor tax a year, it can add up to a fairly big saving on an anuual basis.

Was talking about this recently with a friend of mine. He is currently paying 860 a year in motor tax for 2.3 litre diesel and the fuel economy is bad at 30 mpg average.
In this case, over 3 years, one of the 3 cars above will save 2,268 in motor tax alone , plus as the fuel economy is say doubled(to 60 mpg minimum), the 3 year fuel saving based on 10,000 miles(16,000kms) is around 2,800.

So a total 3 year saving of 5,068, or a 6 year saving of just over 10 grand.
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Old 31-01-2010, 07:12 PM
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Have been looking around recently,(just looking) and some of the MPG on some of the newer diesel low emission cars are fairly impressive.

All figures below are Extra Urban driving, but all give 60 plus on town driving.

23,180 ex works, Motor Tax 104
Golf 1.6 TDI Blue Motion 105HPgives 83.1 mpg or 3.4 L/100 kms
http://www.volkswagen.ie/media/count...nuary_2010.pdf

24,847 ex works, Motor Tax 104
Volvo C30 1.6 D DRIVe (Start/Stop) gives 83.5 mpg or 3.4 L/100kms
http://www.volvocars.com/ie/all-cars...ical-spec.aspx

21,492 ex works, Motor Tax 104
Peugeot 308 Hdi 1.6 90 bhp gives 74.6 mpg or 3.9L/100 kms
http://www.peugeot.ie/templates/peug...&specs/308.pdf

Theres a general consensus around that the Peugeot 308 has the best fuel economy of any car around, but it clearly does not.

There is a bit of a price premium for driving some of these, but if you are doing a lot of mileage, and only paying 104 in motor tax a year, it can add up to a fairly big saving on an anuual basis.

Was talking about this recently with a friend of mine. He is currently paying 860 a year in motor tax for 2.3 litre diesel and the fuel economy is bad at 30 mpg average.
In this case, over 3 years, one of the 3 cars above will save 2,268 in motor tax alone , plus as the fuel economy is say doubled(to 60 mpg minimum), the 3 year fuel saving based on 10,000 miles(16,000kms) is around 2,800.

So a total 3 year saving of 5,068, or a 6 year saving of just over 10 grand.

the urban figure is the only one that you should be looking at unless you are driving at 70mph all day long without braking once...
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:35 PM
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the urban figure is the only one that you should be looking at unless you are driving at 70mph all day long without braking once...
Fair point, Urban figures are:

Golf 1.6 TDI Blue Motion 105HPgives Urban 60.1 mpg 4.7 L/kms
http://www.volkswagen.ie/media/count...nuary_2010.pdf

Volvo C30 1.6 D DRIVe (Start/Stop) Urban 57.9 mpg 4.9 L/100kms
http://www.volvocars.com/ie/all-cars...ical-spec.aspx

Peugeot 308 Hdi 1.6 90 bhp gives Urban48.9 mpg or 5.8L/100 kms
http://www.peugeot.ie/templates/peug...&specs/308.pdf

The Peugeot consumption figure really drops down for town driving.
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:39 PM
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The VW group 1.6 is a fantastic all rounder in fairness, you can also get it in Seat and Skoda trim. If your looking for a bit more power, the 2.0 is the berries, an evo of the 1.9. Not that more thirsty either.
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:01 AM
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the 1.9 golf is thirsty as hell, And most of my miles are motorway miles.

The shit thing about the 1.9 is it only has 5 gears, so when driving up to Dublin / Belfast your running at over 3000 revs for over 4 hours. Its a disaster. It takes a full fill to go up and down. Thats about 70 quid to do 800km. I dont think thats too good, Did it a few times in a Peugeot, and it far more ecnomical if you are doing plenty of motorway miles. The same 70quid fill, got me up and down with just short of a quater tank left over.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:41 PM
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I have a 407 1.6 HDI. I've forgotten when I last went to the garage . it's still more than 1/2 full . I haven't gone anywhere except in around town/work/shopping for the last few weeks .

Normally I get about 2 weeks normal driving with one 200 - 400km run out of a tank .

I reckon it's pretty good . I am a reasonably efficient driver though.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:23 PM
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yea the peugeot that i was driving was the 2.0 407 and the tank just never seamed to empty.

I would not reccomend the 1.9 golf, its a noisy bastard as well. I fecking hate the thing...
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I still have petrol, get the bones of 800k on a 65 euro fill. 1.8 petrol, and on themotorway, im doing 3000rpm @ 120 kmh.... Still though, diesel next, without a doubt! Saying that, a good chunk of my driving is in towns, cities etc.
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Buying a diesel is an automatic indication you're a boring bastard.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:05 AM
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Buying a diesel is an automatic indication you're a boring bastard.

Of course

I prefer to spend my cash on more interesting things than petrol

Sorry FU

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