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Old 07-09-2012, 09:14 PM
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Liverpool will return under Rodgers, but not this season
or next season or the season after. How long's his contract?
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:25 PM
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Lucas to work as a scout!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...g-role?cc=5739
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:11 AM
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Times are hard.

They have Joe Cole working in the canteen...knows his way around a pie I dare say.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:23 PM
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"I'm sorry" : Cameron to apologise to families of Hillsborough victims on day unseen files will be released

The Prime Minister will say sorry for years of official blunders over the 1989 football disaster when 96 football fans were crushed to death in Sheffield

David Cameron is to apologise to the families of Hillsborough victims this week.

In an announcement in the House of Commons on Wednesday the Prime Minister will say sorry for years of official blunders over the 1989 football disaster when 96 football fans were crushed to death in Sheffield.

His speech will come on a “momentous” day for relativates of the victims. It will also see the release of previously unpublished files which are expected to expose widespread failures by South Yorkshire police and other public bodies.

Government sources say Mr Cameron will express his regret that mistakes were made and that it took so long for them to be revealed.

Families who have protested for years at the way the aftermath was handled expect the new information to prove conclusively that police refused to accept responsibility for the disaster.

The report, following a two-year inquiry by the Hillsborough Independent Panel, is also believed to criticise police officers who falsely claimed that drunk and ticketless supporters were to blame.

The panel, headed by the Bishop of Liverpool, examined about 450,000 documents held by police, the ambulance service and other bodies.

Yesterday leading Hillsborough campaigner Margaret Aspinall, whose son James, 18, was one of the fans crushed to death at the Liverpool v Nottingham Forest match, said: “It is right that someone should say sorry for the mistakes that were made.

“I’ve been hopeful in the past and been let down but I hope this time we will get to the real truth of Hillsborough. It has been a complete cover-up. There has been no justice for the 96 people who died or their families.”

Relatives hope the findings will help overturn inquest verdicts that the deaths were an accident.

Mrs Aspinall, 74, is adamant that the victims were unlawfully killed. “I refused my son’s death certificate,” she said. “I will have it when the right verdict is on it.”

The families hope the report clears fans of all blame for the fatal crush and finally disproves vile newspaper allegations that they robbed and urinated on the dead.

Mrs Aspinall added: “Our fans tried to do everything to help. I’d like their names cleared. It’s going to be a momentous day for all the families who lost loved ones, and we hope the truth will at last prevail.

"People have said we need to move on... but how can you until you get the truth?”




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Old 09-09-2012, 03:48 PM
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Documentary Hillsborough: the Search for Truth on ITV tomorrow night
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:18 PM
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since we are reliving the past from Europes leading grief merchants Will there be any apology to the families of those that lost life in Heysel?
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:22 PM
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"I'm sorry" : Cameron to apologise to families of Hillsborough victims on day unseen files will be released

The Prime Minister will say sorry for years of official blunders over the 1989 football disaster when 96 football fans were crushed to death in Sheffield

David Cameron is to apologise to the families of Hillsborough victims this week.

In an announcement in the House of Commons on Wednesday the Prime Minister will say sorry for years of official blunders over the 1989 football disaster when 96 football fans were crushed to death in Sheffield.

His speech will come on a “momentous” day for relativates of the victims. It will also see the release of previously unpublished files which are expected to expose widespread failures by South Yorkshire police and other public bodies.

Government sources say Mr Cameron will express his regret that mistakes were made and that it took so long for them to be revealed.

Families who have protested for years at the way the aftermath was handled expect the new information to prove conclusively that police refused to accept responsibility for the disaster.

The report, following a two-year inquiry by the Hillsborough Independent Panel, is also believed to criticise police officers who falsely claimed that drunk and ticketless supporters were to blame.

The panel, headed by the Bishop of Liverpool, examined about 450,000 documents held by police, the ambulance service and other bodies.

Yesterday leading Hillsborough campaigner Margaret Aspinall, whose son James, 18, was one of the fans crushed to death at the Liverpool v Nottingham Forest match, said: “It is right that someone should say sorry for the mistakes that were made.

“I’ve been hopeful in the past and been let down but I hope this time we will get to the real truth of Hillsborough. It has been a complete cover-up. There has been no justice for the 96 people who died or their families.”

Relatives hope the findings will help overturn inquest verdicts that the deaths were an accident.

Mrs Aspinall, 74, is adamant that the victims were unlawfully killed. “I refused my son’s death certificate,” she said. “I will have it when the right verdict is on it.”

The families hope the report clears fans of all blame for the fatal crush and finally disproves vile newspaper allegations that they robbed and urinated on the dead.

Mrs Aspinall added: “Our fans tried to do everything to help. I’d like their names cleared. It’s going to be a momentous day for all the families who lost loved ones, and we hope the truth will at last prevail.

"People have said we need to move on... but how can you until you get the truth?”




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Old 09-09-2012, 06:32 PM
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since we are reliving the past from Europes leading grief merchants Will there be any apology to the families of those that lost life in Heysel?
There have been apologies.

But I doubt you truly care and seem to be more interested in using the deaths of football fans for points-scoring purposes.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:44 PM
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an acknowledgement is not an apology. They seldom recognise Heysel in the same stature as they do Hillsborough. You even have on the club crest two flames in recognition of Hillsborough. Where is the one for Heysel?
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:15 PM
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an acknowledgement is not an apology. They seldom recognise Heysel in the same stature as they do Hillsborough. You even have on the club crest two flames in recognition of Hillsborough. Where is the one for Heysel?
I'll assume you are after an honest discussion and not just using the death of football fans to score points..

Liverpool (club, players, fans, press) took the opportunity of the 2005 clash to do a lot to heal the wound and it was largely (but not entirely) received by Juve in the spirit it was intended.

But it's not a huge shock that the club would treat the two incidents differently.

It's human nature to airbrush (intentionally or otherwise) away things that we are not proud of...and despite the myriad of other parties (Juventus included) complicit in the Heysel disaster there are pockets of the Liverpool support who should rightly be shameful for their actions that day.

...and equally it's human nature to seek closure in cases where we feel we've been wronged without adequate recognition or resolution.

Both losses of life were tragic.

Equally both incidents were not identical.

The shameful press coverage and the lack of transparency / accountability in the subsequent years is a big factor in the enduring focus on Hillsborough.

P.S. I'm using "we" in the general sense...before anyone jumps down my throat.
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