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Old 29-07-2012, 06:10 PM
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Its just not cricket chaps.
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Old 29-07-2012, 06:20 PM
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So Did I

I had a conversation with a friend of mine recently who plays munster senior league soccer. He and his team mates bet. He says it doesn't affect the way they play on the pitch. I told him that this kind of scenario could arise. He told me they checked up and as amateur sportsmen (which this sailing guy is) there are very little regulations concerning their off field activities.
I could debate your replies to my replies above again but it'll just keep going in circles.

The fact is that this carry on is unacceptable regardless of circumstance, and it's not even necessarily all about defrauding other punters or bookmakers (though from a legal point of view it may be all about that).
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Old 29-07-2012, 06:50 PM
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unless he was in some way favoured to win the event at the time I'm leaving him off with a warning.
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Old 29-07-2012, 06:51 PM
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Rules are rules.

You can't bet against yourself.
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Old 29-07-2012, 07:02 PM
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unless he was in some way favoured to win the event at the time I'm leaving him off with a warning.
No, he wasn't.

It's all here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing...%93_Star_class

I'm guessing he placed the bet after the sixth or seventh race.

There's no question of him actually fixing the final result, he certainly didn't, just placed a good value bet on the Brits but the problem is that betting on your own event can't be allowed.

You can't have different sets of rules because there can be grey areas as to where good value betting ends and match fixing begins, just a blanket ban.

I'd agree that the sanctions should be light enough but there should definitely be sanctions to warn him off doing it again.
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Old 29-07-2012, 07:06 PM
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No, he wasn't.

It's all here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing...%93_Star_class

I'm guessing he placed the bet after the sixth or seventh race.

There's no question of him actually fixing the final result, he certainly didn't, just placed a good value bet on the Brits but the problem is that betting on your own event can't be allowed.

You can't have different sets of rules because there can be grey areas as to where good value betting ends and match fixing begins, just a blanket ban.

I'd agree that the sanctions should be light enough but there should definitely be sanctions to warn him off doing it again.

^^^^

That.

Betting on yourself is not allowed.

Did get deliberately lose? No.

But that doesn't matter.
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Old 29-07-2012, 07:50 PM
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Its just not cricket chaps.
Heh Heh.

Looks like I'm the only one who got it, Goatsie.
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Old 29-07-2012, 07:56 PM
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^^^^

That.

Betting on yourself is not allowed.

Did get deliberately lose? No.

But that doesn't matter.
Betting on yourself is allowed.

I know a boxer who recently won 10 grand backing himself to win the National Championships.

He deliberately won too.
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