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Old 09-02-2018, 10:21 AM
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Default Ali Selim is a dangerous man

This lad gets painted as a moderate etc by many in this country...

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Dr Ali Selim of the Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland has said he advocates female circumcision.

Female circumcision, also termed female genital mutilation (FGM), is illegal under the Criminal Justice (Female Genital Mutilation) Act 2012.

It is estimated that 5,790 girls and women living in Ireland have experienced FGM and some 2,639 girls here may be at risk of being subjected to it.

Under 2012 legislation, not only is FGM prohibited in Ireland, it is also a criminal offence for a person to take a girl to another country to undergo it.

“I’m not an advocate of female genital mutilation but I am an advocate of female circumcision. We see female circumcision in the same way we see male circumcision. It might be needed for one person and not another, and it has to be done by a doctor and practised in a safe environment,” Dr Selim told RTÉ’s Prime Time.

‘Not an obligation’
“The same medical reason that would justify male circumcision would be the same for females. It is not an obligation, but it should be allowed by law if needed and a medical doctor can decide if it is needed or not,” he said.

“People by nature are different and their organs are different. What one person needs is not necessarily needed by another, and it should be determined by a doctor,” he said.

“It is always been portrayed as ‘horrible’ or ‘barbaric’ or ‘mutilation’ and is portrayed as a dark-skin practice or from the dark ages,” he said.

“If it is an inherited practice it does not mean it has to done, but it has to be considered, and not rejected because it is inherited,” he said.

When asked whether he believed it should be carried out for cultural or religious reasons, he said: “In the Koran it says clearly, ask of the people of knowledge if you do not know, so it means you ask a medical doctor,” he said.

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He said people need a medical expert to tell them if a circumcision it is needed or not.

“If a doctor advises it is needed, then it has to be done. Religion says it does not have to be practised, our religion says to ask the people with knowledge,” he said.

Dr Selim said he would be against the idea of people going outside of Ireland to have the procedure carried out on their children.

“You can’t stop people leaving... It is against the law to practice abortion but people just cross the border and ‘do abortion’ and come back. If you take your daughter abroad for a circumcision, you need to ask your doctor. A doctor has to say they are in need of it, they have to say there is a medical need for it,” he said.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...sion-1.3385891
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Old 09-02-2018, 10:48 AM
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This guy is a major scumbag. Massive agenda with him, but, of course, the liberals will always deny it.
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:44 AM
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There is never any medical justification for female circumcision so this guy is advocating breaking the law here.

He's deliberately clouding the issue by linking it to male circumcision which is sometimes medically justified.
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:47 AM
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If you or I made a statement like that we'd have the Gardai knocking at our doors, but will he????
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:48 AM
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There is never any medical justification for female circumcision so this guy is advocating breaking the law here.

He's deliberately clouding the issue by linking it to male circumcision which is sometimes medically justified.
Of course he is. Clouds issues all the time - recently with the islamic dress code in Irish schools. Make no mistake, this guy, along with the halawas, is dangerous.
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:04 PM
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Of course he is. Clouds issues all the time - recently with the islamic dress code in Irish schools. Make no mistake, this guy, along with the halawas, is dangerous.
Well at least with these comments he has really exposed himself, this will all blow up in his face.
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:07 PM
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Well at least with these comments he has really exposed himself, this will all blow up in his face.
Here's hoping. Give him enough rope and all that. Just like that fat git, halawa, when he started giving interviews, more and more people saw that what he was saying didn't add up.
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:17 PM
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:22 PM
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Religious nut has crazy ideas about removing women's bodily autonomy.

Interesting.
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:23 PM
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Religious nut has crazy ideas about removing women's bodily autonomy.

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Excellent referencing
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