Chelsea V Arsenal Carling Cup

[Roman Abramovich]

came back from the match thursday night. denilson was awesome.
cant wait for the final. wont hold me breath for tickets unless i wana sit in the chelsea end. 5 of us gona go over if we can source tickets at cost but other than that im saving me money for athens come may.

[afeencalleddan]

im saving me money for athens come may.Lyon v Barca should be good alright!

[Roman Abramovich]

Lyon v Barca should be good alright!

ive a bit of cash on lyon because ive fancied them a few years running now.
i can actually see the pool knocking out barca ahead of barca making the final.

[homer jay]

ive a bit of cash on lyon because ive fancied them a few years running now.
i can actually see the pool knocking out barca ahead of barca making the final.

you know it. its 'ON' BIG TIME!!!!

[STEVIEG]

Agree with that

Barca have been shit lately and Liverpool can spring a suprise

[ho chi feen]

Agree with that

Barca have been shit lately and Liverpool can spring a suprise

Yup. Seems like the race for the La Liga is the like the race for fourth sport in the EPL a couple of seasons back. No-one really seems to want it, but as long as the others keep pissing points away, it remains ON.

[afeencalleddan]

Lyon and Barca were just the first two teams that jumped into my head but I agree that it's a very open competition. Not sure about Arsenal this year though. They were really at it from the word go last season in Europe but they seemed to have reverted to their old ways in Europe again this season.

[Roman Abramovich]

well have me ticket anyway as previously stated.
wengers making waves that he wont play anyone that hasnt played to date.
thats largely henry and gallas.

i could see him adopting a five man midfield to try and hold back chelsea and one up front. I would predict a chelsea mauling with whats wrote on paper. But i do believe this arsenal younger team is special.

My predict for the team is

Almunia
Djurouro Toure Senderos Traore
Walcott Fabregas Diaby Denilson Aliadire
Adey

Bench: Poom, clichy, gilberto, rosicky, baptista

[STEVIEG]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=45016 7&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=2&title=Arsene+aims+ji be+at+Jose&channel=football_hom e&

Thes two have been at each others necks all week could spruce up the game a bit

This tournament has improved a lot this year

[Langer Dan]

came back from the match thursday night. denilson was awesome.
cant wait for the final. wont hold me breath for tickets unless i wana sit in the chelsea end. 5 of us gona go over if we can source tickets at cost but other than that im saving me money for athens come may.

Save away!

[Roman Abramovich]

my head is wrecked.
ticket problem, no doubt im worrying over nothing.
the ticket hasnt arrived via post and duplicates arent printed.
now the club said they mightn send it and collect on the day, but ive gotten no contact from them and they kept me on hold for 30mins until they fucked off at 5. i have me book ref, seat hum, membership card etc. millenmium stadium will have plenty of arsenal people, just prefer to have the ticket in me hand.

we have the two hospitality tickets so at least its less hassle for two of them.
im pissed off. but sure ill still get in even if it is a little drama.


i wont be spotted in wilton sunday night like so its all good.
see you tuesday morning or late monday night.

with the trophy??? i dunno. im giving no opinion on the game because i dunno what the fuck to expect. its a special young arsenal team but a "normal" chelsea.


best of luck shammy

[Philby]

Chelsea by two clear goals.

[Roman Abramovich]

im on my way, on my way,
im going to cardiff, im on my way.
how i get there i dont know.
how i get there i dont care.
all i know is i am on my way.

im fuckin wrecked, fuckin wrecked.
im going to dumpland, im fuckin wrecked.
half past 3 what a joke.
drinking tea and drinking coke.
about to leave but i am fuckin wrecked.

chinese in wilton, its all booked out,
chinese in wilton, its all packed full.
wherell i eat? i dunno
wherell i watch, do ye care?
maybe abrekebabra all the fuckin wayy.........

im on my way, on my way,
im going to cardiff, im on my way.
how i get there i dont know.
how i get there i dont care.
all i know is i am on my way.

[STEVIEG]

heh heh heh the boy has finally lost the plot:)

[Roman Abramovich]

sitting in dumpland on chair,
sitting in dumpland, got caught in cahir.
its feckin cold, the airports shit,
the planes pulled in, cant believe thats it.
its bloody small, its bloody shit.
who cares, cause i am on my way.

[STEVIEG]

enjoy

[homer jay]

sitting in dumpland on chair,
sitting in dumpland, got caught in cahir.
its feckin cold, the airports shit,
the planes pulled in, cant believe thats it.
its bloody small, its bloody shit.
who cares, cause i am on my way.

rhyming 'way' with 'shit', i like it :)

enjoy

[Philby]

Arsenal's brazilian boys have a bit of a forced song & dance for ESPN brazil...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RiCQZkaF7M&mode=related&search=

[Rebelred]

2-1 Chelsea

[STEVIEG]

Hopefully extra time and loads of cards

[Jim Comic]

1-1 after 33 mins

[storysham]

Terry in the horrors, looks serious.

stretcher, neck brace, oxygen

[storysham]

who let the drog out, 2-1

[Forsberg]

Hopefully extra time and loads of cardsheh heh heh .

You've got your wish

[storysham]

3 reds, a giant scrap, and its still going on.

[storysham]

yellows for lamps and fab

[xvis]

Obi Mikel is finished at Chelsea I'd say.


Cesc's hotheadness escalated the fracas as well.

points deductions all round is the only way to deal with this thuggery!

[Forsberg]

Obi Mikel is finished at Chelsea I'd say.


Cesc's hotheadness escalated the fracas as well.

points deductions all round is the only way to deal with this thuggery!

wrong competition

[STEVIEG]

Yup, Arsenal could really do with learning how to lose a game with dignity

Pity cause they played quite well

Same old problem of not being clinical enough though

Drogba was class but in fairness Arsenals players will learn from this and hopefully be wound up for the game in the Emirates in the Premiership

[xvis]

wrong competition

you can only hope.


..looking at the replays Mikel never really raised his hands but was guilty of a poor challenge. he didn't really deserved a red in hindsight. Toure and Cesc were the main instigators. Adebayor was unfortunate.

[Forsberg]

Yup, Arsenal could really do with learning how to lose a game with dignity

Pity cause they played quite well

Same old problem of not being clinical enough though

Drogba was class but in fairness Arsenals players will learn from this and hopefully be wound up for the game in the Emirates in the Premiership

Ya . Aderbayor especially lost the polt.

Arsenal were great first half in fairness ,but the longer it went on at 1-1 , Chelsea were always gonna win it.

I was hugely impressed with Diaby. That's my first time really watching him and he sems to have everything. At one stage he left fat frank on his ass with a beautiful turn. That made me laugh

Oh and Drogba is now the best in the world -- according to Lampard anyway :rolleyes:

[Forsberg]

you can only hope.


..looking at the replays Mikel never really raised his hands but was guilty of a poor challenge. he didn't really deserved a red in hindsight. Toure and Cesc were the main instigators. Adebayor was unfortunate.

To be honest nobody really deserved to go imo. A lot of pushing and shoving . Nothin more. Replays may show different but that was my take on it

[Woohoo_Doh]

Anyone see what happened to Wayne Bridge??? He was laid out on the ground. Tried rewinding it on sky plus but saw nothing of why he was down.

[STEVIEG]

Oh and Drogba is now the best in the world -- according to Lampard anyway :rolleyes:

Yeah i didn't see that but you have to hand it to him

There's not many strikers as consistent this season

[STEVIEG]

Anyone see what happened to Wayne Bridge??? He was laid out on the ground. Tried rewinding it on sky plus but saw nothing of why he was down.



I initially thought that's why Adebayor walked i dunno though

I enjoyed the ruckus-was hoping Jose and Wenger might come to blows though

[MonTheHoops]

Oh and Drogba is now the best in the world -- according to Lampard anyway :rolleyes:

If he's best in England then by default he's the best in the world.

Momo Sylla was Drogba's best man. When Drogba was starting out he asked Momo if he'd get a game for Celtic, Sylla replied no.

Thank you Momo.

[Woohoo_Doh]

To be honest nobody really deserved to go imo. A lot of pushing and shoving . Nothin more. Replays may show different but that was my take on it

Got to rewind it and see what happened in depth. Mikel appeared to start it off by giving Toure a wee kick up the hole (:lol!: ) and then held Toures shirt as he was trying to play the ball away, Toure in turn flipped out and the melee started. Mikel should have been sent off, Toure a yellow would have sufficed and I have no idea why Adebayor was sent off.

[Forsberg]

Yeah i didn't see that but you have to hand it to him

There's not many strikers as consistent this season

He's been excellent in fairness but best in the world is being banded around waaaay too much in recent weeks for my liking . Plus to be considered the best striker in the world he'll have to do it consistently for another couple of years.

[STEVIEG]

He's been excellent in fairness but best in the world is being banded around waaaay too much in recent weeks for my liking . Plus to be considered the best striker in the world he'll have to do it consistently for another couple of years.

True, but i'm struggling to name too many better and more consistent over the last few years

Eto maybe and Henry of course

Think Drogba is a good man to have on the team when the chips are down and he deserves credit-i wouldn't take much notice of Lampard he is just understandably bigging up his teammate

[Woohoo_Doh]

I enjoyed the ruckus-was hoping Jose and Wenger might come to blows though

Ya. Definitely the highlight of the game for me. Reckon Mourinho could take Wenger. Id pay to see that.

[Forsberg]

If he's best in England then by default he's the best in the world.




Of course

[STEVIEG]

Still no victories for Wenger in 7 games against Jose

Hopefully that will change in the Emirates


A two-legged Champs league two between these two would be good too

[storysham]

Still no victories for Wenger in 7 games against Jose

Hopefully that will change in the Emirates


A two-legged Champs league two between these two would be good too

Drool

[ho chi feen]

Of course

Or if Real Madrid or after him. Some Spanish papers are calling C Ronaldo the best in the world! FFS like.

[Otto_the_bus_driver]

Drool

Gaybo.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/e/e4/150px-Gaybyrne.jpg

[STEVIEG]

Or if Real Madrid or after him. Some Spanish papers are calling C Ronaldo the best in the world! FFS like.

Apparently people here have called him that too but i've never seen any actual evidence in any threads!

[Woohoo_Doh]

Sky sports news reporter Craig Slater just confirmed John Terry had swallowed his tongue when he got injured but the medics managed to pull it back up.

[G Swift]

fuck fuck fuck is all i can say, would have loved to see arsenal's young guns win. They deserved it with the run in the competition they had! I'm well pissed off.
"Poll" did anyone want chelsea to win?

[STEVIEG]

No way did i want Chelsea to win


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42612000/jpg/_42612395_diaby_pa41 6.jpg


Some kick alright he's as hard as nails in fairness probably be back training tomorrow!

The Beast looks like he is limbering up in the background to have a kick too

[STEVIEG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TERXgr5lZ00

[G Swift]

I initially thought that's why Adebayor walked i dunno though

I enjoyed the ruckus-was hoping Jose and Wenger might come to blows though

Would have been class, Wenger spent some time in Japan maybe he knows some kung fu shit:)

[Loftydog]

Ouch!

[Woohoo_Doh]

Terry already left the hospital and is back at the stadium. Probably has a minor headache at this stage, nothing a couple of nurofen cant cure.

[G Swift]

Daiby is class alright. When he first came in to the arsenal team he had some great games but he was quickly taken out with the injury.
Arsenal really started to lose it in midfield when he came off.

[the puerto rican feen]

disappointed and frustrated

drogbas first goal offside

a clear penalty not given to arsenal in the first half

Robben seemed to be the difference, and on their second half performance chelsea probably deserved it.

Beautiful header from drogba

some of the arsenal players need to be a little bit smarter(red cards, melees etc.) and take the loss graciously.

[RonnyB]

a clear penalty not given to arsenal in the first half


when? I only saw the 1st half & missed bout 5 mins of that.

[saltyfriedeggs]

when? I only saw the 1st half & missed bout 5 mins of that.

I think he's probably talking about Baptista's one but I dont think it was.Looked like he slipped himself.

[Forsberg]

drogbas first goal offside

a clear penalty not given to arsenal in the first half

.

He was onside


I don't remember any real shout for a pen to be honest

[STEVIEG]

Daiby is class alright. When he first came in to the arsenal team he had some great games but he was quickly taken out with the injury.
Arsenal really started to lose it in midfield when he came off.

Yup that moment changed the game he is class alright

[KolaKubes]

Obi Mikel is finished at Chelsea I'd say.


Cesc's hotheadness escalated the fracas as well.

points deductions all round is the only way to deal with this thuggery!

I agree. I was personally very upset watching it and was worried about what any impressionable children might make of it all. I suspect playgrounds around Britain and Ireland will be ringing to the sound of kids pushing each other with intent, screaming and shouting but being far too much a bunch of pussies to actually thrown a slap! :D

On the other hand, a media frenzy about this and a minor points deduction would be sweet.

[ho chi feen]

Sky sports news reporter Craig Slater just confirmed John Terry had swallowed his tongue when he got injured but the medics managed to pull it back up.

I can remember that happening to a Milan player in the European Cup in the late 80's, either Donadoni or Albertini. They had to break his jaw to get it out and stop him from choking- all on the pitch too, if the memory serves. First thing I thought of when I saw this today.

[Rebelred]

what a crazy game! three good finishes, handbags at 10 paces, a nasty smack in the head, and Jose and Arsene shaking hands with each other! The most entertaining game of ball in ages!

[shammy feen]

My reflections and musings/ramblings on the Game:


First of all, Unlucky Naff , Unlucky PRF..Arsenal have a fine young team coming through there and to be quite honest I think they gave Chelsea the run around for 2/3 of the Match and can consider themselves very unlucky to lose. I honestly believe Arsenals first eleven wouldnt have given Chelsea any harder a test then the Cannoneros did yesterday...so bravo the young Gunners!

Didier Drogba is the near perfect Premiership striker...big, awkward, hard to deal with, holds the ball up well, scores buckets of goals and is only left down by his first touch from time to time.

The melee at the end: From looking at the replay, I thought that a few yellow cards would sort out the situation, it was a load of handbag swinging to be honest. Mikel especially had his hands up to show he wasnt getting involved, but still he got sent off. His tackle was worthy of as yellow though...

The Carling Cup wont keep José in a job, but the Carling Cup, FA Cup and the Champions league might...The league is on its way to Old Trafford barring a dramatic turn of events.

Lads, give credit where credit is due...Chelsea ground out that result yesterday....

John Terry is the new Terry Butcher...the kind of centre half any team would love to have..he is pure class and 100% blue. Legend.

"MiniMaka" Lassana Diarra is improving with every game, but was lucky to stay on the field yesterday after a few shirt pulling incidents...

Arsenal should have had a penalty in the first half, that was a foul on The Beast IMO.

Lampard was anonymous for most of the game, but what a strike off the crossbar

Wayne Bridge is as good, if not better than Ashely Cole.

Sheva had a poor first half but improved in the second, should have scored a third for Chelsea but hit the angle of crossbar and post.

Cech's and Terrys injuries are the difference between our present league position and being right up there neck and neck with United..Cech pulled off some great saves yesterday, notably a one handed dive from a Baptista shot to turn it round his right hand post...amazing save.

Again hard luck Naff and PRF.

Shammy

P.s Terry was back at the stadium 2 hours after the game ended to celebrate with his mates and is in good health.

[Langer Dan]

Professional footballers are a shower of sickening cunts. The carry on of them yesterday was pathetic ,Adebayor should be ashamed of himself, bahaving like a petulant child after getting his marching orders. Dont get me started on Bridges attempt at amdram.

Yesterdays shameful display only furthers the image of Premiership footballers as overpaid, self important, geebags.
Those toerags shoulda watched the rugby on Saturday for an example of how to behave like professionals.

[Forsberg]

,Adebayor should be ashamed of himself, bahaving like a petulant child after getting his marching orders. Dont get me started on Bridges attempt at amdram.

.

In fairness to Adebayor he was sent off for what Eboue did , so he had every right to be upset.

Agreed about Bridge. Thought he was a disgrace It's funny that the media have seemed to overllook this . But of course he's not Jonnhy Foreigner

[Langer Dan]

In fairness to Adebayor he was sent off for what Eboue did , so he had every right to be upset.

Agreed about Bridge. Thought he was a disgrace It's funny that the media have seemed to overllook this . But of course he's not Jonnhy Foreigner

earra he shoulda takne his medicine like a man and not started remonstrating like an angry four year old. Totally unprofessional behavior, the ref made his decision,twas wrong, but live with it.

This handwringing and abusing of officialdom is now par the course in Soccer and its just sickening, take the decision and get on with it. Hed have done lot more for his team if hed just gotten off the pitch and let the game go on.

Bridge is a diving prick, but they're all at it. Embarrassing to see grown men behaving in such a fashion.

[shammy feen]

For Fabregas...His confused face while taking corners and dodging celery in the first half was priceless....he obviously isnt aware of the ould Chelsea traditional chant at finals....

http://celery.ndk.biz/celerybunch.jpg

"Celery, Celery
If she don't come,
I'll tickle her bum
with a lump of celery"

[shammy feen]

Roman Abramovich even wore his celery T-Shirt.

http://secure1.mppglobal.co m/Preview/204/10113/275519L.jpg

[shammy feen]

Best picture of the day...taken in the dressing rooms after the game...unbelievable. ..

http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/5/1/2/2/BIG_0002545122.jpg

[the puerto rican feen]

My reflections and musings/ramblings on the Game:


First of all, Unlucky Naff , Unlucky PRF..Arsenal have a fine young team coming through there and to be quite honest I think they gave Chelsea the run around for 2/3 of the Match and can consider themselves very unlucky to lose. I honestly believe Arsenals first eleven wouldnt have given Chelsea any harder a test then the Cannoneros did yesterday...so bravo the young Gunners!

Didier Drogba is the near perfect Premiership striker...big, awkward, hard to deal with, holds the ball up well, scores buckets of goals and is only left down by his first touch from time to time.

The melee at the end: From looking at the replay, I thought that a few yellow cards would sort out the situation, it was a load of handbag swinging to be honest. Mikel especially had his hands up to show he wasnt getting involved, but still he got sent off. His tackle was worthy of as yellow though...

The Carling Cup wont keep José in a job, but the Carling Cup, FA Cup and the Champions league might...The league is on its way to Old Trafford barring a dramatic turn of events.

Lads, give credit where credit is due...Chelsea ground out that result yesterday....

John Terry is the new Terry Butcher...the kind of centre half any team would love to have..he is pure class and 100% blue. Legend.

"MiniMaka" Lassana Diarra is improving with every game, but was lucky to stay on the field yesterday after a few shirt pulling incidents...

Arsenal should have had a penalty in the first half, that was a foul on The Beast IMO.

Lampard was anonymous for most of the game, but what a strike off the crossbar

Wayne Bridge is as good, if not better than Ashely Cole.

Sheva had a poor first half but improved in the second, should have scored a third for Chelsea but hit the angle of crossbar and post.

Cech's and Terrys injuries are the difference between our present league position and being right up there neck and neck with United..Cech pulled off some great saves yesterday, notably a one handed dive from a Baptista shot to turn it round his right hand post...amazing save.

Again hard luck Naff and PRF.

Shammy

P.s Terry was back at the stadium 2 hours after the game ended to celebrate with his mates and is in good health.

gracious as always shammy

enjoy the victory

[Langer Dan]

Referee Howard Webb consulted with his assistant before showing Adebayor (http://www.irishexaminer.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=26433-qqqx=1.asp)a red card, apparently for clashing with Wayne Bridge.

The 21-year-old, however, protested his innocence. Adebayor said: “I had just come on, we were 2-1 down and I remember that Kolo had the ball, and someone was pushing him – he fell down. He was getting really angry and wanted to exchange words with the player.

“I just ran over there to breakdown everything, trying to stop Kolo and also (Emmanuel) Eboue. I think (Wayne) Bridge came on to me. I cannot remember if I pushed him or not. At that moment, you have a lot of things in your head.

heh heh heh,

what a pair of bennys.

[ho chi feen]

John Terry is the new Terry Butcher...the kind of centre half any team would love to have..he is pure class and 100% blue. Legend.


So what you're saying is, he's good enough to play for Rangers? :mrgreen:

Wayne Bridge is as good, if not better than Ashely Cole.


Agreed. He must feel well hard done by- why people can't see this is beyond me.

[Rebelred]

2-1 Chelsea

Rebeldamus! :)

[dotty]

Rebeldamus! :)

glad you put your money where your mouth is...;)

[Sound]

glad you put your money where your mouth is...;)

Irelands win paid for a Paddy's day trip to Amsterdam. Had them to win by 11 or more at 7/1.

:bday:

[Rebelred]

i made my losings back from paddy power from the champions league debacle last week.

[dotty]

Irelands win paid for a Paddy's day trip to Amsterdam. Had them to win by 11 or more at 7/1.

:bday:

fair play to ya,7s quite a big price,felt we would win by 12-15 but didnt followed through on it and to be fair when i saw the rain prematch i was glad i didnt..oops!

[Up For The Ba]

I dont know what Andy Gray kept harping on about the first Drogba goal for. If you look at the line on the pitch he was in line with the trailing leg of Senderos. He`s the one who always says the benefit should be given to strikers, well Andy I didnt see any DAYLIGHT (thats the interpretation is it not?) between Senderos and Drogba.

This young Arsenal side are phenomenal though in fairness. They play suberp one touch football, a joy to watch at times. Diaby is the new Vieira, he has all the same attributes that Vieira had and he will be perfect for the Premiership.

Mourinho as always is all about himself. His 5 finger salute into the crowd afterwards shows how much class this man really has.

[RonnyB]

I dont know what Andy Gray kept harping on about the first Drogba goal for. If you look at the line on the pitch he was in line with the trailing leg of Senderos. He`s the one who always says the benefit should be given to strikers, well Andy I didnt see any DAYLIGHT (thats the interpretation is it not?) between Senderos and Drogba.


I said the exact same thing. and I'm surprised with him because he usually has an anti-Arsenal agenda from whenever I listen to him.

[Rebelred]

is it wrong to laugh?...

[homer jay]

is it wrong to laugh?...

yes and no.

what was baptista doing in the background?

[Rebelred]

yes and no.

what was baptista doing in the background?

not sure really, warming up perhaps?

[dotty]

is it wrong to laugh?...

:)

funny stuff,thankfully hes alright though,pictures after the kick were worrying.

[ho chi feen]

is it wrong to laugh?...

LMFAO

[Roman Abramovich]

i have no opinion on the game and wont until i watch it on me sky plus again.
kevin moran snubbed us the dirty basterd....
charlie george and kenny samson were the two welcoming guests for the box tickets. im glad i went into the stands as i was with the north bank fans.
great weekend, shitty resultish

[Up For The Ba]

i have no opinion on the game and wont until i watch it on me sky plus again.


Why not?

[STEVIEG]

Wonder what will happen with the punishments
Multiple knuckle rapping or some proper suspensions?

[RonnyB]

In fairness it was only handbags but Fabregas was very lucky to stay on. For me he should have been the most blatent sending off of them all.

[STEVIEG]

In fairness it was only handbags but Fabregas was very lucky to stay on. For me he should have been the most blatent sending off of them all.

I think he admitted it too

But with all the controversy about it the FA should take action

If players like Scholes and Rooney got 3 match suspensions for a pre-season friendly then surely something should happen over this

But i'm not gonna hold my breath, anyway it's Arsenal who are more vulnerable and they don't really concern me anymore

[RonnyB]

But Scholes & Rooney were handed straight reds so although the suspensions seemed ludicrous (especially in Rooney's case) they were applying the law. The ref did deal with a number of the players on sunday so I dont know what more they could do to punish them under their own laws.

[STEVIEG]

But Scholes & Rooney were handed straight reds so although the suspensions seemed ludicrous (especially in Rooney's case) they were applying the law. The ref did deal with a number of the players on sunday so I dont know what more they could do to punish them under their own laws.

Don't they bang on about "failure to control your players" every so often

Also, a certain Roy Keane once got banned for extra games after initially serving his original ban (the FA went to town on him after the book controversy)

anyway, they have already shown their inconsistency with the diferent punishments handed out to Rio (versus the man City no mark), Scholes/Rooney (versus Gerrard) etc etc etc so i won't hold my breath

[Langer Dan]

yes and no.

what was baptista doing in the background?

Riverdance from the look of it

[Roman Abramovich]

Why not?

theres lots i wana see.
i was in line with the drogba first goal and he looked offside, as i havent read a paper or seen the highlights or anything i dont know.
i also figured it could have been a spotter in the first half.
i reckon diaby was man of the match followed closely by denilson.
adeybyor was flagged offside clean through on goal when it looked to me like he was a mile on side.


a game is always different being there then actually watching on tv.
you see stuff that the camera dont.
thats why i wana watch again.

[STEVIEG]

theres lots i wana see.
i was in line with the drogba first goal and he looked offside, as i havent read a paper or seen the highlights or anything i dont know.
i also figured it could have been a spotter in the first half.
i reckon diaby was man of the match followed closely by denilson.
adeybyor was flagged offside clean through on goal when it looked to me like he was a mile on side.


a game is always different being there then actually watching on tv.
you see stuff that the camera dont.
thats why i wana watch again.


Andy Gray called Drogba offside but i think he was on alright


Just

[Roman Abramovich]

Andy Gray called Drogba offside but i think he was on alright


Just

it looked way off from where i was but sure in the blink of an eye you can be 2 or 3 foot more.

as for the opinion of 2 anti arsenal man i.e. you and andy....
he has the technology
;)


if its one of those is he off is he on id prefer to go with on meself.
id like to see essiens play too because he made 3 bookable tackles in my opinion. got booked for one.

also wana see that kick cause it looks horrible in the pictures and looks as if diaby was wreckless but i dont think it was.

loads to see and judge before i comment. loads.
all i will say was that if that was arsenals strongest 11 i wouldnt have been let down or disapointed with the team. the fact it was a fringe/young/combo team i was even less let down. fuckin proud actually.

[Langer Dan]

a game is always different when you're completely biased.

it sure is.

, take your beating.

You should stop going to the games you seem to be a badluck charm.

[RonnyB]

Don't they bang on about "failure to control your players" every so often

Also, a certain Roy Keane once got banned for extra games after initially serving his original ban (the FA went to town on him after the book controversy)

anyway, they have already shown their inconsistency with the diferent punishments handed out to Rio (versus the man City no mark), Scholes/Rooney (versus Gerrard) etc etc etc so i won't hold my breath

I cant see any indivdual being punished further barring Adebayor. The clubs will prob get a fine alright.

As for the incidents you've just pointed out I wont comment because it'll just start an "oh look at the Man Yoo brigade claiming injustice just because they can blah blah fucking blah" discussion thats tedious beyond belief.

[STEVIEG]

Read my post again Naff

Andy Gray sided with Arsenal and said Drogba was off

He was probably marginally on but it could have easily went the other way

The linesman has to be sure

I was for Arsenal that day

Don't be paranoid i'm not anti anyone i'm pro United

[RonnyB]

It was marginal and for once I'm glad to see the forward benefitting from it because linesmen to often give the advantage to the defenders when there is no apparent 'daylight'. Shame it was a Chelsea player who benefitted though!

On the penalty claim it would have been very harsh considering Diarra went around the side of Baptista to get the ball only for Baptista to stand on his foot rather than lose his balance under the challenge. Fair play to the ref he was on the spot & didnt delay in making his decision.

[Roman Abramovich]

Read my post again Naff

Andy Gray sided with Arsenal and said Drogba was off

He was probably marginally on but it could have easily went the other way

The linesman has to be sure

I was for Arsenal that day

Don't be paranoid i'm not anti anyone i'm pro United

i did........you were for arsenal that day, so was andy...
two anti arsenal men normally.
;)

[Roman Abramovich]

It was marginal and for once I'm glad to see the forward benefitting from it because linesmen to often give the advantage to the defenders when there is no apparent 'daylight'. Shame it was a Chelsea player who benefitted though!.

if theres no daylight im a firm beliver in give it to the foward.

[STEVIEG]

i did........you were for arsenal that day, so was andy...
two anti arsenal men normally.
;)

Not at all

Give me Arsenal over Chelsea or Liverpool any day of the week

They should be rightly proud of themselves for playing a young team and giving Chelsea a footballing lesson for much of the game

They weren't clinical (a problem with the club all season) and they got a bit stoppy in the end (but their opposition lack class too so i won't blame them) but they were excellent throughout the cup run

The game should have been dead at half time though, Wenger admitted it himself-Chelsea got off the hook

[saltyfriedeggs]

it looked way off from where i was but sure in the blink of an eye you can be 2 or 3 foot more.

as for the opinion of 2 anti arsenal man i.e. you and andy....
he has the technology
;)


if its one of those is he off is he on id prefer to go with on meself.
id like to see essiens play too because he made 3 bookable tackles in my opinion. got booked for one.

also wana see that kick cause it looks horrible in the pictures and looks as if diaby was wreckless but i dont think it was.

loads to see and judge before i comment. loads.
all i will say was that if that was arsenals strongest 11 i wouldnt have been let down or disapointed with the team. the fact it was a fringe/young/combo team i was even less let down. fuckin proud actually.

Im an Arsenal fan and my first thought was that he was offside too.But seeing it again you can see that we're talking millimetres either way.You'd have to give it to Drogba I think.Sendoras' foot might be keeping him on.

[Actin The Sham]

Not at all

Give me Arsenal over Chelsea or Liverpool any day of the week

They should be rightly proud of themselves for playing a young team and giving Chelsea a footballing lesson for much of the game

They weren't clinical (a problem with the club all season) and they got a bit stoppy in the end (but their opposition lack class too so i won't blame them) but they were excellent throughout the cup run

The game should have been dead at half time though, Wenger admitted it himself-Chelsea got off the hook


All good points, with which I have to agree. Hopefully Arsenal will beat Chelsea at the emirates though, which should go some way to ameliorating the defeat on Sunday.

I for one will certainly be rooting for Arsenal, as I am sure most neutrals will be.

;)

[Up For The Ba]

it looked way off from where i was but sure in the blink of an eye you can be 2 or 3 foot more.

as for the opinion of 2 anti arsenal man i.e. you and andy....
he has the technology
;)


if its one of those is he off is he on id prefer to go with on meself.
id like to see essiens play too because he made 3 bookable tackles in my opinion. got booked for one.

also wana see that kick cause it looks horrible in the pictures and looks as if diaby was wreckless but i dont think it was.

loads to see and judge before i comment. loads.
all i will say was that if that was arsenals strongest 11 i wouldnt have been let down or disapointed with the team. the fact it was a fringe/young/combo team i was even less let down. fuckin proud actually.


He wasnt off, by the skin of his teeth he was on. The Adebayor one was very close aswell, didnt really see the replay of that so I`m not sure.

On you being disappointed, well thats natural, but if United had a young side like that in a cup final putting up that kind of performance against one of World footballs top teams I think I would be pleased enough to know that the future is looking really bright.

[xvis]

I cant see any indivdual being punished further barring Adebayor. The clubs will prob get a fine alright.


Eboue?



A lot of people are covering it over in the aftermath and you see Toure coming out with saying he shouldn't get a ban.

Toure deserved a red, he was too agressive and started it. Mikel should have had a yellow, ..although a red was maybe inevitable after what developed.

Eboue should get 3 matches retroactively, Adebayour should get rescinded but will get games for refusing to leave the pitch. Lampards yellow was correct, and Fabregas would be quite satisfied with a yellow ....it was someway to defuse the situation by getting Fat Lampard in a headlock and trying to twist him around ...class to see though.



as for the other incidents, Drogba was onside, and there was no contact for the penalty.
Don't recall the other Essien incidents.

[Roman Abramovich]

Eboue?



A lot of people are covering it over in the aftermath and you see Toure coming out with saying he shouldn't get a ban.

Toure deserved a red, he was too agressive and started it. Mikel should have had a yellow, ..although a red was maybe inevitable after what developed.

Eboue should get 3 matches retroactively, Adebayour should get rescinded but will get games for refusing to leave the pitch. Lampards yellow was correct, and Fabregas would be quite satisfied with a yellow ....it was someway to defuse the situation by getting Fat Lampard in a headlock and trying to twist him around ...class to see though.



as for the other incidents, Drogba was onside, and there was no contact for the penalty.
Don't recall the other Essien incidents.

go into the arsenal footage and tell me eboues wether it should be a red, if so for how long and what about bridge.....
just wana see what you make of it.

[xvis]

go into the arsenal footage and tell me eboues wether it should be a red, if so for how long and what about bridge.....
just wana see what you make of it.

of course it's a certain red, he struck Bridge on the back of the head. That's a clear red card offence in football, a 3 match ban is the punishment for a violent conduct red, and he and Arsenal should be amazed if they don't get 3 games.

Bridge was struck to the head, he went down, it wasn't a Tyson punch or anything, but what's he going to do? ..punch him back?

The number one rule in football, that everybody knows is you don't raise your hands, see Reina-Drogba last year, very negligible contact but Reina putting himself in danger by raising his hands, ..and Eboue's was much worse than Reina's.

[Roman Abramovich]

of course it's a certain red, he struck Bridge on the back of the head. That's a clear red card offence in football, a 3 match ban is the punishment for a violent conduct red, and he and Arsenal should be amazed if they don't get 3 games.

Bridge was struck to the head, he went down, it wasn't a Tyson punch or anything, but what's he going to do? ..punch him back?

The number one rule in football, that everybody knows is you don't raise your hands, see Reina-Drogba last year, very negligible contact but Reina putting himself in danger by raising his hands, ..and Eboue's was much worse than Reina's.

did ya look at the footage....i dont even think it was the head.

[xvis]

did ya look at the footage....i dont even think it was the head.

I didn't see it on Sky's footage, but it was shown clear on a different camera angle on ITV's highlights programme later on,

....head, upper back of the neck, it doesn't make much difference to the FA looking at it.

[RonnyB]

The reason I didnt say Eboue would get punished is because I hav'nt seen much of the incident only what was on YouTube yesterday. And if it had'nt been caught on camera he'd get off without punishment.

[xvis]

The reason I didnt say Eboue would get punished is because I hav'nt seen much of the incident only what was on YouTube yesterday. And if it had'nt been caught on camera he'd get off without punishment.

the Eboue-Bridge incident may not be on the original broadcast.

It's clear on other footage.

[Roman Abramovich]

I didn't see it on Sky's footage, but it was shown clear on a different camera angle on ITV's highlights programme later on,

....head, upper back of the neck, it doesn't make much difference to the FA looking at it.

i posted it in the official arsenal thread. watch it first.
i would have banned him for 4 games. but watch it from the camera angle that shows it best....

in my opinion a one match ban max.

[Roman Abramovich]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1b1xf_eboue-strikes-bridge-carling-cup-fi

look at how bridge reacts, hes about to elbow him, then spots the linesman, looks at him, screams, then falls over.

not condoning what eboue done. it was fuckin sneaky.
but so was drogbas clatter on fabregas. wheres the consistancey.....ebo ue hits bridge with far less contact than i originally tought. drogba clatters fabregas when he was just starting to get things under control and starts it all off again. how can the fa distinguish why one is a charge and the other isnt? because the player was injured? clearly shows he wasnt like.

[Roman Abramovich]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0_XLRcKH_Y


now watch this. watch fabregas and lampard. you can see that fabregas was trying to calm things down even if it was a bit fuckin aggresive like. watch drogba.......watch how he acts the cunt by clattering him to try and get him going again

[xvis]

look at how bridge reacts, hes about to elbow him, then spots the linesman, looks at him, screams, then falls over.

not condoning what eboue done. it was fuckin sneaky.
but so was drogbas clatter on fabregas. wheres the consistancey.....ebo ue hits bridge with far less contact than i originally tought. drogba clatters fabregas when he was just starting to get things under control and starts it all off again. how can the fa distinguish why one is a charge and the other isnt? because the player was injured? clearly shows he wasnt like.

righto, watched it there again.

clear red. ..then Bridge grasped his head and keeled over, Eboue was leaning on him a bit then at that stage, and Eboue was sprawled out as well, but it's bye-the-bye

concersely if you watch Eboue, he tried to disguise 'the clatter' as well by drifting by and then sprawling over...

..disgusting business... etc etc. a lot of pussy fighting but there's no escape for Eboue from 3 matches.

[Actin The Sham]

Tim Sherwood said when asked about the two managers going on to the pitch and getting involved, "Well there's no way Arsene Wenger can say he didn't see it."


Heh heh heh...
:)

[Roman Abramovich]

righto, watched it there again.

clear red. ..then Bridge grasped his head and keeled over, Eboue was leaning on him a bit then at that stage, and Eboue was sprawled out as well, but it's bye-the-bye

concersely if you watch Eboue, he tried to disguise 'the clatter' as well by drifting by and then sprawling over...

..disgusting business... etc etc. a lot of pussy fighting but there's no escape for Eboue from 3 matches.

so taking into consideration the force of the punch, now watch drogbas one....

[KolaKubes]

Heh heh, I wonder what odds another few players getting suspensions over this and maybe a points deduction?

Brilliant game. :D

[ho chi feen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0_XLRcKH_Y


now watch this. watch fabregas and lampard. you can see that fabregas was trying to calm things down even if it was a bit fuckin aggresive like. watch drogba.......watch how he acts the cunt by clattering him to try and get him going again

My thai isn't what it used to be, but I could have sworn the commentator said to his assistant "Well, at least Wenger can't claim not have seen what happened this time".

heh heh heh