rugby in croke park

[Jim Comic]

is that this weekend? if so what day and time?

[west cork rebel]

Nope, we are playing the welsh in Cardif

[Jim Comic]

i see

[miahp]

Tyrone and Dublin resume hostilities in Croker tomorrow night. Live on TV.................. Setanta ! So much for the " great national organisation "

[Ringy]

Tyrone and Dublin resume hostilities in Croker tomorrow night. Live on TV.................. Setanta ! So much for the " great national organisation "


Sure Setanta have rights for a year or two now along wit TG4. Sure Cork are playing in Paic Ui Rinn anyway so it doesnt really matter

[miahp]

Sure Setanta have rights for a year or two now along wit TG4. Sure Cork are playing in Paic Ui Rinn anyway so it doesnt really matter

TG4 is free to air, Setanta is Ireland's answer to Murdoch.

[Edmund Blackwater]

TG4 is free to air, Setanta is Ireland's answer to Murdoch.
Setanta is free.

[miahp]

Setanta is free.

Must check when I get home, on Chorus digital, think it's an extra fee.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Must check when I get home, on Chorus digital, think it's an extra fee.
Free on ntl anyway.

[Forsberg]

Free on ntl anyway.


Do you get NTL for free Ed?

[POL]

A sad day for Irish sport when this unbelievable act of treachery takes place next Sunday, John Arnold had a great piece in yesterdays Tribune, he correctly pointed out that this treason is occurring under different circumstances from the motion passed at congress. That Croke Park would only be opened up when Planning Permission was granted, which it has not been yet, has the demolition of Tansdown started yet? why can't it be played there?

[captainshamrock]

A sad day for Irish sport when this unbelievable act of treachery takes place next Sunday, John Arnold had a great piece in yesterdays Tribune, he correctly pointed out that this treason is occurring under different circumstances from the motion passed at congress. That Croke Park would only be opened up when Planning Permission was granted, which it has not been yet, has the demolition of Tansdown started yet? why can't it be played there?

Just goes to show the muckers can always be counted on to sell their pride, morals and anything else they could get a few pennies for.

[Sound]

A sad day for Irish sport when this unbelievable act of treachery takes place next Sunday, John Arnold had a great piece in yesterdays Tribune, he correctly pointed out that this treason is occurring under different circumstances from the motion passed at congress. That Croke Park would only be opened up when Planning Permission was granted, which it has not been yet, has the demolition of Tansdown started yet? why can't it be played there?


I'm surprised it took you this long to bring up Arnold's piece. Every bit of it is factually 100% correct until he shows his colours in the last two lines.

[dirty-trucker]

I got a nod for my ticket. Cant Wait.
The GAA heads must be fuming its getting nearer

[POL]

I got a nod for my ticket. Cant Wait.
The GAA heads must be fuming its getting neareryea I'd say so, silly backward mucksavages

[EDDIEB]

I got a nod for my ticket. Cant Wait.
The GAA heads must be fuming its getting nearer

How stupid ?
GAA is clever enough to take this on and get a good deal to boot.
Looking forward to going to Croker on Sunday and it should be a great day.
Its just an international game of rugby it ill be exciting but I doubt if it will be as exciting as a good game of hurling in the venue.

[dirty-trucker]

yea I'd say so, silly backward mucksavages

Fair dues they are opening. Its progress like.
A guy i work with hires na pairsighs indoor pitch in cork for soccer matches every friday night and they have no problem with that like,

I dunno i find the whole thing fairly pathetic and sad. Its like a form of racism still left in ireland.

[POL]

Fair dues they are opening. Its progress like.
A guy i work with hires na pairsighs indoor pitch in cork for soccer matches every friday night and they have no problem with that like,

I dunno i find the whole thing fairly pathetic and sad. Its like a form of racism still left in ireland.

There's no place for racism against soccer and rugby in today's Ireland, I'm amazed that such a backward organisation such as the GAA even made this move

[RonnyB]

I dunno i find the whole thing fairly pathetic and sad. Its like a form of racism still left in ireland.

you wouldnt be saying that if you were anyway related to Michael Hogan listening to God Save The Queen being sung in front of the stand named after him. Dunphy made a good point about it on Saturday night saying that the GAA's decision should be treated with upmost respect as should the wishes of those opposed to opening Croke Park up to other sports. This part of our history happened less than 100 years ago & there are probably still people alive who were in Croker that day.

[pepe_le_pooh]

Fair dues they are opening. Its progress like.
A guy i work with hires na pairsighs indoor pitch in cork for soccer matches every friday night and they have no problem with that like,

I dunno i find the whole thing fairly pathetic and sad. Its like a form of racism still left in ireland.
Progress indeed. Sunday will be a great day for Irish sport.
For those against it, I think it's hard to find that kind of blatently bigoted attitude anywhere else in the sporting world. It just seems so petty.

[pepe_le_pooh]

you wouldnt be saying that if you were anyway related to Michael Hogan listening to God Save The Queen being sung in front of the stand named after him. Dunphy made a good point about it on Saturday night saying that the GAA's decision should be treated with upmost respect as should the wishes of those opposed to opening Croke Park up to other sports. This part of our history happened less than 100 years ago & there are probably still people alive who were in Croker that day.
What would Michael Hogan say?
Maybe he'd be proud the stand named after him will be the backdrop to a top-quality purely sporting encounter against the reigning world champions with (almost) none of the undercurrents of 1917?
Maybe he'd be proud that Ireland has moved on, but without forgetting?

(I was absent from this forum for several months - hasn't this all been discussed/argued already?)

[homer jay]

(I was absent from this forum for several months - hasn't this all been discussed/argued already?)

no, rugby is a forbidden subject on this forum

[Sound]

Croke himself wouldn't be too pushed, I'd imagine.

[LawrenceSummers]

There's no place for racism against soccer and rugby in today's Ireland, I'm amazed that such a backward organisation such as the GAA even made this move

Backward indeed....

GAA Attendance over the weekend eclipsed:
Each of the six nations matches
Each of the premiership matches
Each and every NBA game that took place in the states

and well the other big game that was on at the weekend had a lower attendance, the superbowl.

Call the GAA backward if you like but it dont know what that makes the FAI or IRFU.... They dont even have a stadium.

Douglas GAA have a better set up than any FAI team, even the kip that the national team prepares at in malahide........ and i dont even need to mention what nemo have

As you travel arond in the next few weeks take a look at the set up that GAA clubs have, i dont just mean the Nemo's of Cork i mean the ballygarvans and ballinhassigs, thay have great pitches, fenced in with most grounds having stands and all with changing rooms, very backward.

Compare that to soccer teams in cork, most dont even own their ground its owned by the corporation........

Backward indeed.

[Forsberg]

GAA Attendance over the weekend eclipsed:
Each of the six nations matches
Each of the premiership matches
Each and every NBA game that took place in the states




This one made me lol the most.

[RonnyB]

What would Michael Hogan say?
Maybe he'd be proud the stand named after him will be the backdrop to a top-quality purely sporting encounter against the reigning world champions with (almost) none of the undercurrents of 1917?
Maybe he'd be proud that Ireland has moved on, but without forgetting?

(I was absent from this forum for several months - hasn't this all been discussed/argued already?)

I'm in favour of opening up Croke Park simply for economical reasons as much as anything. My gripe is people saying the GAA are backward for taking years to decide whether to open it up. I've stated my opinions on the time taken to finally come to this stage & I think those who were against it should have their reasons respected rather than laughed at.

[LawrenceSummers]

A sad day for Irish sport when this unbelievable act of treachery takes place next Sunday, John Arnold had a great piece in yesterdays Tribune, he correctly pointed out that this treason is occurring under different circumstances from the motion passed at congress. That Croke Park would only be opened up when Planning Permission was granted, which it has not been yet, has the demolition of Tansdown started yet? why can't it be played there?

Yea bi, treachery and treason thats right. Sure lansdown isnt being used lets just switch the game.....

This is a great day for irish sport, we will be playing the french in front of a massive home crowd, in a stadium that is the envy of europe, sure it has history, there arent many places in the isle that dont have history. But isnt clinging to history the major problem up there in the north, history is history, let respect it but move on and try and create some history of our own.

That history being supporting our national team (A team of players from 32 counties) to win the match against a very tough french team and set up a famous match against the english, so that the hardest part of winning a grand slam is done.

So their national anthem will be played in croke park, big deal. I have no desire to dis respect the people who were murdered in croke park, but the country has moved on, hell even the GAA has moved on.

When bernard dunne fought a few months ago in the point his opponent was boooed and coins thrown at him in the ring, because he was english, i thought it was horrible, and showed what kind of a crowd supports bernard dunne, sure i dont much like english people, but an athelete competing at the highest level deserves respect, and we should be respectfull to the english team when they visit.

if we want to make a point of them playing in croke park them sing, get behind the irish team and help them kick the shit out of the old enemy.


I dont mind GSTQ being played, but i sure as hell do mind losing to them

[LawrenceSummers]

This one made me lol the most.



why would that be...... are they americas small backward group of eejits?

[Forsberg]

why would that be...... are they americas small backward group of eejits?

:confused:

You seen to be proud that a one off unique sporting occasion in Ireland (in a 80,000 seater stadium) somehow managed to acheive higher attendance than regular season NBA games ( of which each team has about 40) in 20,000 seater arenas

[Sound]

Backward indeed....

GAA Attendance over the weekend eclipsed:
Each of the six nations matches
Each of the premiership matches
Each and every NBA game that took place in the states

and well the other big game that was on at the weekend had a lower attendance, the superbowl.

Call the GAA backward if you like but it dont know what that makes the FAI or IRFU.... They dont even have a stadium.

Douglas GAA have a better set up than any FAI team, even the kip that the national team prepares at in malahide........ and i dont even need to mention what nemo have

As you travel arond in the next few weeks take a look at the set up that GAA clubs have, i dont just mean the Nemo's of Cork i mean the ballygarvans and ballinhassigs, thay have great pitches, fenced in with most grounds having stands and all with changing rooms, very backward.

Compare that to soccer teams in cork, most dont even own their ground its owned by the corporation........

Backward indeed.

WHOOSH!!!!

[POL]

WHOOSH!!!!

er, indeed..

[Lamps]

I dont mind GSTQ being played, but i sure as hell do mind losing to them

FFS.

Is this what this country is coming to

[#11sully]

I dont mind GSTQ being played, but i sure as hell do mind losing to them


Some guy wrote this into the English Times during the week. Surprised they published
it. ........


Scotland weren't much better than a Guinness Premiership or Magners League
team, but you can only beat what is put in front of you, and Saturday
represents a very good start. Ireland may well be missing Brian O'Driscoll
as well as Shane Horgan and don't have the resources in depth to overcome
such losses. However neither will England have the armoured cars and machine
guns they had the last time they entered Croke Park!

[Actin The Sham]

For those against it, I think it's hard to find that kind of blatently bigoted attitude anywhere else in the sporting world. It just seems so petty.

Catania V Palermo.

[pepe_le_pooh]

Catania V Palermo.
I meant from one sporting code or organisation towards another.

[Proinsias]

I meant from one sporting code or organisation towards another.

Rugby Union and rugby league.


Seriously, mention the Vichy government to a rabid league fan and check the reaction.

They really, really hate rugby union.

[POL]

Michael Cusack must be turning in his grave

[Sound]

Michael Cusack must be turning in his grave

Croke wouldn't mind though.

[pepe_le_pooh]

Rugby Union and rugby league.
Seriously, mention the Vichy government to a rabid league fan and check the reaction.
They really, really hate rugby union.

In another thread, I asked the question:
Is there any other sporing organisation which would refuse to rent their facilties for no other reason than protectionism? How do rugby union & rugby league clubs get along on this point?
and you replied.....
Suprisingly well nowadays considering they've essentially been trying to ruin each other for a very long time. League have been poaching union players for almost 100 years and now Union have been poaching players from league.
Despite this, Harlequins and Leeds have both professional union and league teams and almost the entire rugby league in Ireland is played on union pitches.
So whether they "hate each other" or "get along...surprisingly well", pitch-sharing between them is common.
So if they can do it.....

edit: is quoting from another thread considered bad practise in here...?

[Proinsias]

In another thread, I asked the question:

and you replied.....

So whether they "hate each other" or "get along...surprisingly well", pitch-sharing between them is common.
So if they can do it.....

edit: is quoting from another thread considered bad practise in here...?

It's suprising if you know the history.


Usually, union people like league. I play it reguraly in training. You'll still find people in Wales that are still pissed off about league taking players in the 80s.

At the same time, there's now a core of pissed off league supporters in and around the M62 corridor who will never, ever call rugby union anything but "kick and clap". However at an official and at a professional club level, the two sports get along suprisingly well.
i suppose the amniosity isn't really where it was once. In the 80s it was vicious.

[pepe_le_pooh]

Maybe this has done the rounds in Ireland already (I'm not in Ireland), but anyway...

One member of the Ireland rugby squad to play in Croke Park next Sunday has already played there as the captain of a winning team. Who is it?

[Actin The Sham]

Some southside pubs offering free drink to rugby supporters
From:ireland.com
Thursday, 8th February, 2007



Offering free drinks to rugby fans if they return to their usual post-match pub on the Southside is not in breach of alcohol legislation, according to a senior counsel.

Although it is illegal to offer "happy hour" discounts on alcohol, it is not against the law to offer alcohol free of charge, according to Constance Cassidy SC, a legal authority on the licensing trade.

A number of Southside pubs, particularly in the Ballsbridge area, have offered bus trips to Croke Park for Ireland's match against France on Sunday. Some are charging € 5 for the bus ticket with a free drink thrown in for all those fans who return to the pub afterwards.

The publicans are attempting to hold on to the custom that normally comes their way following a rugby match in Lansdowne Road.

Youth group, Leading Youth Work Organisation yesterday criticised the plans.

Spokesman Michael Mc Loughlin said the link between sport and alcohol was too great in Ireland.

"It further pressurises young people into early and risky alcohol consumption," he said.

Publicans and the drinks industry should be setting an example in this area. This measure was introduced to end the happy hour in this country and all publicans are well aware of it. Linking free drink to a bus journey or a match day does not make it any more legal or acceptable."

He said the constant "in your face" promotion of alcohol coupled with the power of the drinks industry is a major concern in Irish society today.

"The idea that free or cheaper drink would be used to incentivise certain behaviour should not be encouraged," he said.

If it's not in breach of the letter of the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2003, it is in breach of the spirit of it."

Ms Cassidy said the sale and supply of intoxicating liquor at a reduced price is expressly prohibited under the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2003, however, a publican is perfectly entitled to supply alcohol for free at any time.

"The law as it stands, which includes 78 statutes to regulate the industry, caters well for the responsible management of licensed premises," she said.

In my experience, publicans behave responsibly and within the law."

Public houses who are offering buses for €5 to Croke Park and a free drink include Kiely's of Donnybrook, The 51, Haddington Road, The Waterloo, Lansdowne Hotel, Toners and the Goat Inn.

Paddy Cullen's and Doheny & Nesbitt's are providing free buses to patrons but are not offering free drinks, while Searson's of Baggot Street are offering a bus, a free drink and a meal after the match for €15.

[Ciotóg]

I wish there was a marketing forum.

[Proinsias]

Maybe this has done the rounds in Ireland already (I'm not in Ireland), but anyway...

One member of the Ireland rugby squad to play in Croke Park next Sunday has already played there as the captain of a winning team. Who is it?

Geordan Murphy played minor football for Kildare, so it could be him.

I believe Horgan played too, but I can't remember if he played intercounty.

Murphy, gonna stick with him as my answer.

[pepe_le_pooh]

Murphy, gonna stick with him as my answer.

nope

[Proinsias]

nope

Hang on, Hayes was a hurler, wasn't he? Is it Hayes?

[Actin The Sham]

I wish there was a marketing forum.


I wish to FAWK there was a "I wish to
FAWK" forum.

[RonnyB]

Geordan Murphy played minor football for Kildare, so it could be him.

I believe Horgan played too, but I can't remember if he played intercounty.

Murphy, gonna stick with him as my answer.

I thought it was Isaac Boss or Simon Easterby :p

Seriously would it have been Denis Leamy?

[Proinsias]

I thought it was Isaac Boss or Simon Easterby :p

Seriously would it have been Denis Leamy?

I don't remember him playing GAA in college, but I might be wrong. Considering he's from tipp, he'd probably be a hurler if he did play.

[pepe_le_pooh]

I thought it was Isaac Boss or Simon Easterby :p
Seriously would it have been Denis Leamy?
Not Horgan, Murphy, Hayes, Leamy, Easterby or Boss.

[RonnyB]

Not Horgan, Murphy, Hayes, Leamy, Easterby or Boss.

D'Arcy with Wexford.

[pepe_le_pooh]

D'Arcy with Wexford.
Nope.

[LawrenceSummers]

Maybe this has done the rounds in Ireland already (I'm not in Ireland), but anyway...

One member of the Ireland rugby squad to play in Croke Park next Sunday has already played there as the captain of a winning team. Who is it?


Is he a back or forward?

[pepe_le_pooh]

Is he a back or forward?

Sorry for slow reply..he's a back.

[Sound]

The place looked well yesterday and the anthems were real spine tingling stuff. I saw a small bit of the highlights of the BBC coverage in the pub last night and the cameramen seemed to be making a point of showing the place off.

[Pure Magic]

Shane Horgan - layed midfield for Meath Minor footballers

[Pure Magic]

Shane Horgan - played midfield for Meath Minor footballers

[Actin The Sham]

The place looked well yesterday and the anthems were real spine tingling stuff. I saw a small bit of the highlights of the BBC coverage in the pub last night and the cameramen seemed to be making a point of showing the place off.


They took their coverage from RTÉ. The place looked very well, and hopefully made the country look good.

[legend76]

Shane Horgan - played midfield for Meath Minor footballers

He played for Meath Minors in '97, but not in croke park, they didn't make the final, however he did play in the mini sevens when he was 8

Horgan, who once played for Meath minors, has not yet tested the Croke Park pitch because of injury, but was there as a Gaelic football player - aged eight. "I played there when I was very young, when I was eight. My national school got to a Fingal league final there. And then I played in the All-Ireland Final, in the mini sevens they have at half time, I played that one year as well. "I think the pitch may have changed a little bit since then, but, you know, it was an amazing time. "I played Gaelic football when I was growing up, so my dream would have always been to have played in Croke Park and experience that, but as the path changed direction a little and I took the rugby route, the only time I was in Croke Park was watching Meath."

[pepe_le_pooh]

oops - I put that trivia question up and forget to give the answer. It was Girvan Dempsey. Apparently he played an under 11 schools hurling final there.

There's an interesting description of it here:
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/drivetimesport/1121119.html
...from about 16min30sec in.