Well well well

[Lamps]

http://www.newsoftheworld.c o.uk/manu_party.swf

A wise man once said that soccer is a disgusting business, and i have to concur.

opinions welcome.

by the way this is the manu christmas party and they are singing about killing scousers and ironically about scousers being murderers.

and rooney is right in the middle of it?

i feel sick.

bet stevie2me has a rational explanation.

[Lamps]

ahh fuck off ya tosser
its a sing song with fans.
how many times have irish people sang songs about the ira etc yet none of us will get guns and go shooting the brits.
grow up moron.

i've got to say.

i'm good

[Lamps]

how many times have irish people sang songs about the ira

are you trying to tell us something?

have you got a confession to make?

do you/have you sung songs about killing people?

you disgust me

[Lamps]

how many times have irish people sang songs about the ira etc yet none of us will get guns and go shooting the brits.


have you sung these songs?

[st finnbar]

do you know what i think is disgusting, a manager who think s other players set out kill his player s, call them blatant cheats and calls himself the special one

[Lamps]

do you know what i think is disgusting, a manager who think s other players set out kill his player s, call them blatant cheats and calls himself the special one

I agree. Mourinho is a plonker, I've always said so.

Alan "Liverpool fan" Greene did a nice article over the hols on Fergie and Mourihno being as despicable as each other. Also mentioned how Fergie hasn't met the press in years and will only fulfil champions league interviews are it would get him in shit with UEFA if he didn't.

[bar99]

http://www.newsoftheworld.c o.uk/manu_party.swf

A wise man once said that soccer is a disgusting business, and i have to concur.

opinions welcome.

by the way this is the manu christmas party and they are singing about killing scousers and ironically about scousers being murderers.

and rooney is right in the middle of it?

i feel sick.

bet stevie2me has a rational explanation.

Thanks for sharing that wonderful clip. I think that when you contrast this display of unity and comradeship with the recent pics of the Liverpool players at their party, posing for photos dressed up as parrots and babies, the reason for the 14point gap between the sides becomes clearly evident.

[Lamps]

Its amazing how this is being glossed over by the ManU brigade as a bit of fun.

[st finnbar]

Its amazing how this is being glossed over by the ManU brigade as a bit of fun.

nic try wum, now move along lamps

[saltyfriedeggs]

What exactly are they saying?I cant really hear it.Bad quality.I can hear the Solksjaer song at the end.

[Lamps]

nic try wum, now move along lamps

This isn't going away my little SFNE. It'll be interesting to get Stevie's take on this.

[Lamps]

What exactly are they saying?I cant really hear it.Bad quality.I can hear the Solksjaer song at the end.

they start off singing about winning in Barca without killing anyone(refering to Hysel)

then they move on the a ditty about putting scousers on a bonfire and burning them.

quite the medley.

and what on earth is rooney doing in the middle of it?

serious questions all round

[Lamps]

you cant hear what their saying. lamps is just a cut and paster.

Jesus lad, you clearly know nothing about soccer

[drinkfeckarse]

I always struggle to take anyone seriously when they call football "soccer".

[Lamps]

I always struggle to take anyone seriously when they call football "soccer".

Are you English?

[Sound]

I always struggle to take anyone seriously when they call football "soccer".

It is soccer in this country. We already have our own football.

[Sound]

Thanks for sharing that wonderful clip. I think that when you contrast this display of unity and comradeship with the recent pics of the Liverpool players at their party, posing for photos dressed up as parrots and babies, the reason for the 14point gap between the sides becomes clearly evident.

Nothing to do with having better players or more money then?

[homer jay]

Thanks for sharing that wonderful clip. I think that when you contrast this display of unity and comradeship with the recent pics of the Liverpool players at their party, posing for photos dressed up as parrots and babies, the reason for the 14point gap between the sides becomes clearly evident.

oh jesus christ :roll:

[Lamps]

It is soccer in this country. We already have our own football.

schoolboy error that one

[drinkfeckarse]

It is soccer in this country. We already have our own football.

No we have a type of football called Gaelic Football. Americans have a type of football that we call American Football and the Australians have what we call Aussie Rules Football.

The GAA has no mention of football. The F.A.I stands for Football Association of Ireland. It has no mention of "soccer".

[drinkfeckarse]

Are you English?

No by the grace of God. I suspect you have some English in you as you display similar traits of superiority without having anything to back it up though.

[Lamps]

No we have a type of football called Gaelic Football. Americans have a type of football that we call American Football and the Australians have what we call Aussie Rules Football.

The GAA has no mention of football. The F.A.I stands for Football Association of Ireland. It has no mention of "soccer".

Oh Jesus, its too early in the year for such an implosion.

I now give you the opertunity to retract the statement.

[Ciotóg]

Americans call American Football "football". The Aussies call their game "football" as well. We call it Aussie Rules here so we don't get all confused about it.

Football in Ireland is a game administered by the GAA. Soccer is a grand game.

[Lamps]

No we have a type of football called Gaelic Football. Americans have a type of football that we call American Football and the Australians have what we call Aussie Rules Football.

The GAA has no mention of football. The F.A.I stands for Football Association of Ireland. It has no mention of "soccer".

p.s. Do you then refer to soccer as Association Football?

[Lamps]

Americans call American Football "football". The Aussies call their game "football" as well. We call it Aussie Rules here so we don't get all confused about it.

Our football is a game administered by the GAA. Soccer is a grand game.

FFS Ciotog, you've got to line them up first.

[Ciotóg]

Ways and means. I was just passing by.

[Forsberg]

No we have a type of football called Gaelic Football. Americans have a type of football that we call American Football and the Australians have what we call Aussie Rules Football.

The GAA has no mention of football. The F.A.I stands for Football Association of Ireland. It has no mention of "soccer".


Most Irish people will call Gaelic football just football. Just like Americans call their type of football just 'football' . Ditto for Australians. Thats why it's soccer in these countries

[drinkfeckarse]

Oh Jesus, its too early in the year for such an implosion.

I now give you the opertunity to retract the statement.

Retract what, can't you read? It's not rocket science lad.

[drinkfeckarse]

Are you all missing the point? In my post I said what "we" call to all the other types. I'm just pointing out the obvious that that almost every Football Association has exactly that word in it...Football. Not Soccer.

[Sound]

Wow!

[Lamps]

I think you'll find that you said you don't take people seriously who refer to the game of "soccer"

In this country that's what people call it, soccer. It differentiates it from, what us Irish call, "football"

is it too early in the year to claim ownership?

[KolaKubes]

Lamps bursts onto the 2007 Sports Forum like a wet fart. :P

[Lamps]

Lamps bursts onto the 2007 Sports Forum like a wet fart. :P

Here Kola, whatcha make of that video?

I'd like to know your opinion

[drinkfeckarse]

I think you'll find that you said you don't take people seriously who refer to the game of "soccer"

In this country that's what people call it, soccer. It differentiates it from, what us Irish call, "football"

is it too early in the year to claim ownership?

Ownership?? Ha Ha!!!!!! I stand by what I said. Most of the people I know actually play the game and I've never heard them saying soccer but we'll just agree to disagree eh? I doubt very much that you actually play any sport and you're opinions mean very little to me anyway so it's pointless considering it is a matter of opinion anyway.

The facts are the facts though and "soccer" is not mentioned in any FA and football is not mentioned in GAA.

[Forsberg]

Ownership?? Ha Ha!!!!!! I stand by what I said. Most of the people I know actually play the game and I've never heard them saying soccer but we'll just agree to disagree eh? I doubt very much that you actually play any sport and you're opinions mean very little to me anyway so it's pointless considering it is a matter of opinion anyway.

The facts are the facts though and "soccer" is not mentioned in any FA and football is not mentioned in GAA.


That's like saying the IOC doesn't mention athletics. GAA covers more than one sport ya know

[Lamps]

The facts are the facts though and "soccer" is not mentioned in any FA and football is not mentioned in GAA.

are you retarded?

ever heard of the BANK OF IRELAND FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

the GAA doesn't mention hurling either, or handball for that matter.

Your facts are irrelevant. You been exposed as a bluffer and possibly as a west brit. Hang your head lad, and take your beating like a man

[Lamps]

That's like saying the IOC doesn't mention athletics. GAA covers more than one sport ya know

inkwell removed from desk and tipped over copybook at this stage

[ho chi feen]

http://www.newsoftheworld.c o.uk/manu_party.swf

A wise man once said that soccer is a disgusting business, and i have to concur.

opinions welcome.

by the way this is the manu christmas party and they are singing about killing scousers and ironically about scousers being murderers.

and rooney is right in the middle of it?

i feel sick.

bet stevie2me has a rational explanation.

Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, with the scousers on the top. We'll put cITEH in the middle, and we'll burn the fucking lot.

[STEVIEG]

[url]ironically about scousers being murderers.
.


This sums you up for the no-mark you are my friend

The "Won it two-times without killing anyone" soing that Some fans sing WASN'T being sung here-it was the RONALDO song about him "playing on the left and playing on the right" (also sung about Giggs)
It's quite clear to anyone with a clue about United that that was the song
The "build a Bonfire" one is the only one that ould be deemed offensive at all but has football gone that PC that the players are now deemed millions of miles away from the fans
If a scouser like Rooney doesn't get offended i doubt many more will

Great to see a good team spirit by the way and great to see Roy Keane and Nicky Butt songs still being sung

Now listen carefully when i say this

















Fuck off WUM

[Lamps]

Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, with the scousers on the top. We'll put cITEH in the middle, and we'll burn the fucking lot.

what kind of example is this setting?

[drinkfeckarse]

Your facts are irrelevant. You been exposed as a bluffer and possibly as a west brit. Hang your head lad, and take your beating like a man

I'll remind you of that the next time you copy and paste something from a rag as "proof".

I'm not getting a beating lad. You're opinion is exactly that. And mine is mine.

[Lamps]

This sums you up for the no-mark you are my friend

The "Won it two-times without killing anyone" soing that Some fans sing WASN'T being sung here-it was the RONALDO song about him "playing on the left and playing on the right" (also sung about Giggs)
It's quite clear to anyone with a clue about United that that was the song
The "build a Bonfire" one is the only one that ould be deemed offensive at all but has football gone that PC that the players are now deemed millions of miles away from the fans
If a scouser like Rooney doesn't get offended i doubt many more will


I should have expected no more Stevie.

Don't ever complain about anything again when you agree with this filth.

I'll be referencing this post. Rooney singing it says more about him than its credibilty.

The tone and hurt in this posts obviously means I've hit a nerve.

Have you sung these songs?

[Lamps]

I'll remind you of that the next time you copy and paste something from a rag as "proof".

I'm not getting a beating lad. You're opinion is exactly that. And mine is mine.

A fact can be irrelevant when it doesn't apply to the argument.
This is like sports forum techniques 101.

btw Shit is brown

[drinkfeckarse]

A fact can be irrelevant when it doesn't apply to the argument.
This is like sports forum techniques 101.

btw Shit is brown

Rattled

[ho chi feen]

what kind of example is this setting?

The same as singing Munich songs, I'd imagine- that people can be rather silly some times.

I guess I'll leave the ultimate judgement to the self-appointed moral guardians.

[STEVIEG]

I should have expected no more Stevie.

Don't ever complain about anything again when you agree with this filth.

I'll be referencing this post. Rooney singing it says more about him than its credibilty.

The tone and hurt in this posts obviously means I've hit a nerve.

Have you sung these songs?


You've had two weeks and this was all you could come up with
I can only imagine you scrambling for a copy of the News of the World now

You sad man-look at the league table and cry

I'm sure there's a Ronaldo is shit thread to be started.....

[STEVIEG]

The same as singing Munich songs, I'd imagine- that people can be rather silly some times.

I guess I'll leave the ultimate judgement to the self-appointed moral guardians.


For the record
The "Won it two times without killing anyone" (NOT sung here)one is offensive and as bad as the Munich ones in my opinion
The "Build a bonfire" is just typical football banter that is quite harmless

[drinkfeckarse]

The "Build a bonfire" is just typical football banter that is quite harmless

Agreed, I don't know anyone who finds it offensive. Annoying maybe but then it always is when the opposition sings songs about you.

[ho chi feen]

For the record
The "Won it two times without killing anyone" (NOT sung here)one is offensive and as bad as the Munich ones in my opinion
The "Build a bonfire" is just typical football banter that is quite harmless

I didn't even bother clicking on the link when I saw the source.

[STEVIEG]

Annoying maybe but then it always is when the opposition sings songs about you.


Yup, interestingly I haven't seen any outrage coming from Liverpool or their fans about this so called Christmas Party incident

Then again, they know better than most how low the tabloids and their minnions will stoop to create a story
it's the fuck-wits who read it and believe it who are to be pitied

[Edmund Blackwater]

For once, I agree with the manyoo-ers.
It's all fairly harmless stuff really and the players should be let off with the same fine that was imposed on Gazza the time he mimmicked playing the flute of the orange order, then we should move on.
Someone should also point out to Rooney where he is from.
Perhaps this will help him realise where he is when he's on a football pitch, couldn't hurt.

[Up For The Ba]

For once, I agree with the manyoo-ers.
It's all fairly harmless stuff really and the players should be let off with the same fine that was imposed on Gazza the time he mimmicked playing the flute of the orange order, then we should move on.
Someone should also point out to Rooney where he is from.
Perhaps this will help him realise where he is when he's on a football pitch, couldn't hurt.

Holy shit, first its Naff and now you? New years resolutions all round.

[Lamps]

The same as singing Munich songs, I'd imagine- that people can be rather silly some times.
.

Do other football teams sing Munich songs?

Show me the footage and they'll get the Lamps seal of disapproval

[Lamps]

I didn't even bother clicking on the link when I saw the source.

its a video you clown, rooney, wes brown and gary neville clearly visible.

serious cages have been rattled.

[Lamps]

Stevie have you sung the 2 times song and the bonfire one?

[drinkfeckarse]

serious cages have been rattled.

:lol: If you say so oh great one :rolleyes:

[KolaKubes]

Here Kola, whatcha make of that video?

I'd like to know your opinion

I thought it was good. Got the feel of a genuine team spirit rather than the team huddle, high fiving, celebrating like winning WC final after beating Wigan that some London clubs get up to.

You should stick to more middle class sports like GAA or Muuuuunster, Lamps, these soccer types are clearly too uncouth for you with their chavette roasting and violent singing.

[STEVIEG]

Stevie have you sung the 2 times song and the bonfire one?


Never sang the two times one, I, like many United fans find it offensive
Have sung the harmless bonfire one many times but i prefer the newer material myself

"That boy Ronaldo, makes England look shite"

You really are some bore trying to score points of this.........

And I agree with Kola, I'm delighted that such spirit exists
I wonder what Eamon Dunphy would say.......

[Lamps]

Never sang the two times one, I, like many United fans find it offensive
Have sung the harmless bonfire one many times but i prefer the newer material myself

"That boy Ronaldo, makes England look shite"

You really are some bore trying to score points of this.........

And I agree with Kola, I'm delighted that such spirit exists
I wonder what Eamon Dunphy would say.......

Oh for shame.

And don't for a minute think anyone believes you about not singing the 2 times one, its bellowed out by the majority of the united crowd at each home game. Just as similar chants are by other soccer fans.

But to have a team doing it. For shame indeed.

[Lamps]

I thought it was good. Got the feel of a genuine team spirit rather than the team huddle, high fiving, celebrating like winning WC final after beating Wigan that some London clubs get up to.

You should stick to more middle class sports like GAA or Muuuuunster, Lamps, these soccer types are clearly too uncouth for you with their chavette roasting and violent singing.

Burning scousers and murders at Hysel(no matter what lies Stevie peddles) is an exercise in team building now?

Its carnage here today

[Lamps]

:lol: If you say so oh great one :rolleyes:

i think after the "soccer" debacle you should take a few days off.

[EDDIEB]

the news of the world or lamps?


Is there a difference ?

[STEVIEG]

Oh for shame.

.


You are an obsessive embarrassment
I'd actually forgotten about you this last few weeks but you obviously haven't got over your obsessions with all things United
Your obsession with me personally is a little disturbing too

Why don't you use your supposed great knowledge to talk about the relevant points in the recent weeks?

united a few points clear but dropped crucial points in Newcastle
Chelsea looking dodgy without Terry who is back this week
Liverpool only 8 points behind your "former" favourite team
Arsenal looking like world beaters one minute yet stumbling aswell the next
etc etc

You are a sad man

[Lamps]

You are an obsessive embarrassment
I'd actually forgotten about you this last few weeks but you obviously haven't got over your obsessions with all things United
Your obsession with me personally is a little disturbing too

Why don't you use your supposed great knowledge to talk about the relevant points in the recent weeks?

united a few points clear but dropped crucial points in Newcastle
Chelsea looking dodgy without Terry who is back this week
Liverpool only 8 points behind your "former" favourite team
Arsenal looking like world beaters one minute yet stumbling aswell the next
etc etc

You are a sad man

As you wish, one interesting point for me was Kola's personal vendetta against John Terry. I think now that its clear to see how good he is and how valuable to Chelsea he is. All this talk of Makele carrying him, etc has certainly been put to bed.

Kola, get in here and eat some humble pie.

[drinkfeckarse]

i think after the "soccer" debacle you should take a few days off.

It's yourself Sir that should be taking a step back. Repeatedly offering your own opinion as damning evidence or proof and cut and pasting rubbish from tabloids and offering that as damning evidence and proof is just laughable.

Then deciding that someone is "owned" or "rattled" just because you think so is comical lad.

You obviously have a superiority complex far outwith any normal Corkmans parameters but you don't have anything to back it up with except sarcasm.

You're a spoofer.

[Lamps]

It's yourself Sir that should be taking a step back. Repeatedly offering your own opinion as damning evidence or proof and cut and pasting rubbish from tabloids and offering that as damning evidence and proof is just laughable.

Then deciding that someone is "owned" or "rattled" just because you think so is comical lad.

You obviously have a superiority complex far outwith any normal Corkmans parameters but you don't have anything to back it up with except sarcasm.

You're a spoofer.

The whole soccer/football thing has been dealt with before. You got it wrong.

Be a man and admit it, i fear your personal vendetta against me has clouded your thinking

[Sound]

It's yourself Sir that should be taking a step back. Repeatedly offering your own opinion as damning evidence or proof and cut and pasting rubbish from tabloids and offering that as damning evidence and proof is just laughable.

Then deciding that someone is "owned" or "rattled" just because you think so is comical lad.

You obviously have a superiority complex far outwith any normal Corkmans parameters but you don't have anything to back it up with except sarcasm.

You're a spoofer.

All of the above is true.

Pity it's all for nought- it's always been soccer here and always will be.

[drinkfeckarse]

All of the above is true.

Pity it's all for nought- it's always been soccer here and always will be.

Fair enough. Not something I agree with but then it's all a matter of opinion anyway. Lamps is the one who decided it was wrong even though I said it was opinion and when I pointed out a few facts to him decided that he had somehow "won" the debate anyway.

Like I said...spoofer with no substance.

[drinkfeckarse]

The whole soccer/football thing has been dealt with before. You got it wrong.

Be a man and admit it, i fear your personal vendetta against me has clouded your thinking

I don't have a personel vendetta against you Lamps. I just think you bring very little to the table except sarcasm. Not sure what you were like previously but that's the way I see it.

[Lamps]

I don't have a personel vendetta against you Lamps. I just think you bring very little to the table except sarcasm. Not sure what you were like previously but that's the way I see it.

I bring 10+ page threads,
plus laughter and joy.

[KolaKubes]

As you wish, one interesting point for me was Kola's personal vendetta against John Terry. I think now that its clear to see how good he is and how valuable to Chelsea he is. All this talk of Makele carrying him, etc has certainly been put to bed.

Kola, get in here and eat some humble pie.

Jesus, I've things to be doing so don't be bothering me with such silliness for the rest of the afternoon.

John Terry is a lynchpin of Chelsea's defence.

He's also a very limited player with his lack of pace and poor general technical ability.

Still with me?

What he is, however, is an excellent header of a ball. His absence costs Chelsea goals at both ends. How many of these recent goals have come from the sort of crosses that Terry was normally mopping up handily?

I don't rate Terry as a defender because, unlike Ferdinand, you don't have to have certain players around him to prevent him being a complete liability with his lack of pace. If, like Mourinho, you're willing to build a whole team around the guy and have no problem with turgid, defensive, counter-attacking puke football that Ulster GAA would be proud of, he's brilliant.

[EDDIEB]

I bring 10+ page threads,
plus laughter and joy.


You certainly do....

[Edmund Blackwater]

I don't rate Terry as a defender because, unlike Ferdinand, you don't have to have certain players around him to prevent him being a complete liability with his lack of pace. If, like Mourinho, you're willing to build a whole team around the guy and have no problem with turgid, defensive, counter-attacking puke football that Ulster GAA would be proud of, he's brilliant.
Hang on, Ferdinand was a liability until Vidic steadied the ship and has still looked poor enough, at times, this season only to be bailed out by one of the rest of the back four. He's a good player on the ball, but an average, at best, defender.

[Sound]

I don't rate Ferdinand as a defender because, unlike Terry, you don't have to have certain players around him to prevent him being a complete liability with his lack of aerial ability.

:-P

[Lamps]

I don't rate Terry as a defender

early contender for post of the year?

woeful

[KolaKubes]

tony adams was just like john terry. very limited technically but a savage man, a savage captain and a savage defender. I like rio because the guy can actually play football. So can toure, in fact toure is wasted in defence.

Would it surprise you to learn I hadn't much time for Adams either?

From a young age, I decided he was one of these whose second touch was a tackle. One incident stood out in particular, Adams makes the tackle (big cheer), gives away the ball with appalling pass, make interception (big cheer), lost ball again, made a headed clearance (big cheer), cue "what a player" remarks from idiot English commentator.

The two Utd lads at the time, Bruce and Pallister, could defend but they also didn't give the fucking ball away straight away thereafter and this trait has always been absolutely key to playing as a defender with Manchester Utd and I think it's one reason why John O'Shea hasn't tended to get games there since he came through.

Rio has flaws as a defender but he's a fabulous, if unconventional, sweeper. You can't be giving that "turkey" Vidic all the credit for Utd's much more solid looking defence this season.

[KolaKubes]

early contender for post of the year?

woeful

Oh my God, sub Sun selective quoting there boy. :rolleyes:

[Lamps]

Adams actually improved a lot on the ball as his career went on. Far better on the ball than Bruce.

The tripe you come out with is mindless. Its galls you that the GAA fan has a better understanding of the game.

[drinkfeckarse]

Adams actually improved a lot on the ball as his career went on. Far better on the ball than Bruce.



Would agree with that.

[Lamps]

no adams improved fitness wise and the style arsenal played made him look better because they passed it more through the defenders. all he done most of the time bar that goal steve bould set up was pass it to keown or dixon. theres a difference.

Well Adams in his book mentioned that he was a far better footballer as the years went on as he worked on becoming better on the ball.

[ho chi feen]

Do other football teams sing Munich songs?

Alan Smith used to.

[ho chi feen]

serious cages have been rattled.

Indeed.

[Lamps]

Alan Smith used to.



Speaking of Alan Smith and other matters, I'm sure the lads smashing up his ambulance, singing the funny song when he got hurt, the liverpool fans throwing bags of shit in response to bags of piss being thrown at them the previous game is all in the spirit of passion and such.

Stevie? Ho Chi?

Where do we draw the line here. I would like to know.

[STEVIEG]

Speaking of Alan Smith and other matters, I'm sure the lads smashing up his ambulance, singing the funny song when he got hurt, the liverpool fans throwing bags of shit in response to bags of piss being thrown at them the previous game is all in the spirit of passion and such.

Stevie? Ho Chi?

Where do we draw the line here. I would like to know.


A couple of morons does not reflect the majority of support
The Liverpool fans didn't know he was seriously injured
The "fans" who attacked the ambulance were a tiny minority

Smith received hundreds of cards and letters of support from Liverpool fans and had been quite vocal in his praise for them

It's only the tabloids and their ilk who try to stir this shit up

Most football fans are decent people

[ho chi feen]

Speaking of Alan Smith and other matters, I'm sure the lads smashing up his ambulance, singing the funny song when he got hurt, the liverpool fans throwing bags of shit in response to bags of piss being thrown at them the previous game is all in the spirit of passion and such.

Stevie? Ho Chi?

Where do we draw the line here. I would like to know.

Nope.

That's just thuggery. But if you can recall back to the time all that hadn't, you might remember I didn't go over the top on it. LD blasted me for being blasé on the matter, but it's horrible, it's disgusting, but unfortunately this is the world we live in. There are idiots everywhere, in goverment, on the terraces, in town on a Saturday night.

Singing Munich/Heysel songs is also rather distasteful, but not in the same ballpark by any stretch.

Do you get offended when people tell off-colour jokes? This isn't a trick question.

[KolaKubes]

I personally think you need one of each. a player defender and a hatchet. Carvalho is a player, terry is the hatchet. Id have terry in the arsenal team ahead of rio 100 times over.

I wouldn't have Terry in the Arsenal team ahead of Touré and Gallas though.

I think if Utd had Terry, Rio and Vidic to choose from, all bases would be covered. Terry and Vidic guarding a goal lead against a quality team would be the business but I'd take Rio for the majority of our games.

However, I don't want to get backed into a corner over Rio. I don't personally like the guy and his fucking "merking" or whatever. We have two young lads, Evans and Pique, who have all the gimp's technical ability and actually defend as well as the best of them, the former in particular. I'm hoping Evans will take Rio's spot in the next 12-18 months.

[Lamps]

A couple of morons does not reflect the majority of support
The Liverpool fans didn't know he was seriously injured
The "fans" who attacked the ambulance were a tiny minority

Smith received hundreds of cards and letters of support from Liverpool fans and had been quite vocal in his praise for them

It's only the tabloids and their ilk who try to stir this shit up

Most football fans are decent people

you cannot deny that Old Trafford(en masse) sing the 2 times song, at every game. are sky purposely putting mikes on just a few?

[STEVIEG]

you cannot deny that Old Trafford(en masse) sing the 2 times song, at every game. are sky purposely putting mikes on just a few?


No, its the Ronaldo song, to the same tune that is far more popular

A lot of fans don't abhor the two times song

Hang on, i thought you admitted all fans sing similar stupid songs and were criticising the players?


Get over it man

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you cannot deny that Old Trafford(en masse) sing the 2 times song, at every game. are sky purposely putting mikes on just a few?

Next question, does anyone here actually give a toss?

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No, its the Ronaldo song, to the same tune that is far more popular

A lot of fans don't abhor the two times song

Hang on, i thought you admitted all fans sing similar stupid songs and were criticising the players?


Get over it man

I was, and I wouldn't deny that they do, but you then decided that most fans are decent skins. But they all sing that song.

Trying to tell everyone that its the Ronaldo song is disingenuous to say the least

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I was, and I wouldn't deny that they do, but you then decided that most fans are decent skins. But they all sing that song.

Trying to tell everyone that its the Ronaldo song is disingenuous to say the least


It is in the video
It's quite clear

And yes, United have loads of fans who are muppets

All teams do, especially the best supported ones

What an exclusive this has been........

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