Best player to slip through a clubs ranks

[Nahboy]

Any opinions on whoever you support and lets not get into insults

Ok ...United could have had Peter Beardsley and David Platt but they slipped through the net

I take it as a given that these players may not have developed as much as they did if they had stayed

[jungle]

Are we talking players who made the first team, but then got sold on and succeeded elsewhere?

[Nahboy]

Are we talking players who made the first team, but then got sold on and succeeded elsewhere?

not necessarily first team - even youth players

[afeencalleddan]

Hmmm... I suppose Graeme Souness.

[STEVIEG]

Robbie Savage:)

[Nahboy]

Robbie Savage:)

he even looks like a langer in the youth team photos

[jungle]

While he wouldn't get anywhere near the team now, there was a period about 5 or 6 years ago that I really wished we could have got Muzzy Izzet back.

Otherwise, Graeme Le Saux, who we sold to Blackburn and bought back four years later for 7 times the price.

[Up For The Ba]

Any opinions on whoever you support and lets not get into insults

Ok ...United could have had Peter Beardsley and David Platt but they slipped through the net

I take it as a given that these players may not have developed as much as they did if they had stayed

I wouldnt have Platt in the same league as Beardsley.

[Nahboy]

I wouldnt have Platt in the same league as Beardsley.

ya - but still Platt in his day was a formidable goalscoring midfielder

would have done a job for United late lat 80's , early 90's no bother

[HeeAirO]

MUST BE RAUL
Altetico madrid youngster, played for Real first team at 17-ish.
Still a first team player at 28-ish.
Few goals here ands there, few medals here and there.

Is there any argument

(mind you I believe Real let Lus Enrique go and Etoo - but not from their youth ranks)

[Up For The Ba]

MUST BE RAUL
Altetico madrid youngster, played for Real first team at 17-ish.
Still a first team player at 28-ish.
Few goals here ands there, few medals here and there.

Is there any argument

(mind you I believe Real let Lus Enrique go and Etoo - but not from their youth ranks)

Ya, its gonna be pretty hard to top that in fairness, especially given the rivalry between the two clubs.

[Nahboy]

MUST BE RAUL
Altetico madrid youngster, played for Real first team at 17-ish.
Still a first team player at 28-ish.
Few goals here ands there, few medals here and there.

Is there any argument

(mind you I believe Real let Lus Enrique go and Etoo - but not from their youth ranks)

Barca fans must feel the same about Fabregas

[HeeAirO]

Barca fans must feel the same about Fabregas
nah, not yet.
Sure they have Xavi, Iniesta, Deco, Giuly, Motta, Edmislon, add a few more there Im getting a headache thinking of the filth.
And Fabulous has yet to win jack shit.
whereas Barc fans have celebrated about 5 trpohies isince he left.
Unlike Raul who has won about 20 since he left and Atletico who have won about 2.

[steve sanders]

shearer had trials at newcastle, they didn't fancy him. apparently it's a rumour that he played between the sticks while on trial.

we ended up paying £15m for him. and still didn't win anything.

city didn't fancy roy so he went to cobh it is also said.

[POL]

Kevin Doyle

[jungle]

Kevin Doyle
A St Pat's fan.

We should probably have guessed.

[POL]

ye premiershit obsessed losers, can't see over the top of yer Roy Keane underpants

[jungle]

ye premiershit obsessed losers, can't see over the top of yer Roy Keane underpants
Someone's rattled and badly rattled at that.

[POL]

oh, they are all ganging up on me

[Loftydog]

Ryan giggs at man city
John Terry at Forest

[qbim3]

could probably name about a dozen that got snatched from west ham by the big boys

[baby face]

Wayne Rooney had a trail with liverpool.

[dotty]

david healy.

was only having this discussion with the brother few days ago.

remember watching highlights of a united game on MOTD and he comes on as a substitute and with his first touch he places a super header onto the bar and proceeds to show some more nice touches.

was encouraged with his cameo appearance and thought we might another gem coming through our youth ranks - two days later he was sold to preston.

couldnt understand it,now i know hes not in the same class as beardsley or platt but always wondered what he had stayed at OT,fair enough there was plenty of competition for a first team place but still thought he could a job for us.

hes done alright at club level,decent goalscorer but his performances in a norn ireland shirt is whats really impressed me,his three v spain few months ago was as good as hattrick as you can score especially given the quality of the opposition.

wonder will he a mover come january?

[Jim Comic]

socrates at shels

[Jim Comic]

i think kenny dalglish had a trial at liverpool when he was a kid but they ended up paying 440k for him about 13 years later

[ho chi feen]

socrates at shels

We're only dealing in true events here, Jim, not urban myths.

[afeencalleddan]

We're only dealing in true events here, Jim, not urban myths.I think he meant Socrates and Garforth Town.

[Jim Comic]

We're only dealing in true events here, Jim, not urban myths.


nah, urban myths rule!!!!!!!!!

[Jim Comic]

pele at sligo rovers

[ho chi feen]

I think he meant Socrates and Garforth Town.
Well why didn't he say?

Damn, I've been fitzed. :eek:

Jurgen Cruyff at Cork Wanderers.

[Jim Comic]

Socrates plyed for UCD reserves in the 1970s but only because he was studying there at the time, and thereby gave birth to the urban myths you rightly mention.



http://football.guardian.co .uk/News_Story/0,1563,367951,00.htm l

[ho chi feen]

Beardsley's ol doll used to go to all his training sessions and matches and everything with him.

















He was so ugly she couldn't kiss him goodbye. Even when he scored his team mates used run away from him.
;)

You're a former Sweet FA reader, aren't ya?

PK For Newcastle:
Keeper: Can I have a paper bag please?
Ref: You can't expect England international Weirdo to put that on his head!
Keeper: No ref, it's for me. I think I'm going to spew...

Weirdo scores PK, team-mates run away as he tries to hug them.

Remember "Stuart Ripley's Believe it or not?" Or Erique? "Your mother was a seagull!"

[ho chi feen]

http://football.guardian.co .uk/News_Story/0,1563,367951,00.htm l

Yeah, I've seen that. Fact is though, while it might be a nice story, there's no truth whatsoever in it. Socrates is on the record as having said that he's never even been to Ireland!

[Edmund Blackwater]

Yeah, I've seen that. Fact is though, while it might be a nice story, there's no truth whatsoever in it. Socrates is on the record as having said that he's never even been to Ireland!
No, no it's true.
As true as Germany wearing green because we were the first team to play them after the world cup.

[oliver hymn]

Yeah, I've seen that. Fact is though, while it might be a nice story, there's no truth whatsoever in it. Socrates is on the record as having said that he's never even been to Ireland!
must be true if the proc savant says so.
where is it on record, tho?

[ho chi feen]

No, no it's true.
As true as Germany wearing green because we were the first team to play them after the world cup.


LOL

[ho chi feen]

must be true if the proc savant says so.
where is it on record, tho?


Think I read it in Alex Bellos's book. Also, the Sunday Tribune ran with it in their football column a couple of years ago.

It's only wiki, so I'd like to find a better source, but no mention here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sócrates

The guardian's knowledge is the exception in subscribing to the myth. Ohter myths have him playing for a local GAA side, and Rugby side. There not even agreement on which college he supposedly went to: Some say it was the Royal College of Surgeons, some say UCC, some say Trinity. As for which team he turned out for, some say it was UCD, others Shels, other Bray.

Where is it on the record that any of this raiméis is true? Other than a Guardian column that has been wrong on numerous occasions in the past?

[MonTheHoops]

Isn't it true that Beckbauer was born in a Dublin hospital?

I can't remember exactly who it was but recall a German international who was delivered prematurely in a Dublin hospital. Im sure it's someone very high profile too.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Isn't it true that Beckbauer was born in a Dublin hospital?

I can't remember exactly who it was but recall a German international who was delivered prematurely in a Dublin hospital. Im sure it's someone very high profile too.
Yep.
Won an all star for the blues in 73 before leading his country to a world cup.

[hairspray]

Inter Milan have a history of this don't they? I think i remember an ACMilan supporter telling me that they often make fun of them because of it. I know that Cannavaro, Pirlo, Cambiasso, Bergkamp and (only recently but looking increasingly like they blew it) David Pizzaro, for a start, have all been through their ranks at some point before they reached full potential

[saltyfriedeggs]

Inter Milan have a history of this don't they? I think i remember an ACMilan supporter telling me that they often make fun of them because of it. I know that Cannavaro, Pirlo, Cambiasso, Bergkamp and (only recently but looking increasingly like they blew it) David Pizzaro, for a start, have all been through their ranks at some point before they reached full potential

Ya but Arsenal got Vieira from the AC Milan reserves for 3 mil when he was 20.

[HappyMonday83]

henry from juve to arsenal.

[Forsberg]

henry from juve to arsenal.


I don't think you can really call that slipping through the ranks though. Juve paid a lot of money for him. He just didn't settle in there . He was there till he was 22 and they made a profit from him . Some players are just not suited to specific clubs / leagues.

[saltyfriedeggs]

I don't think you can really call that slipping through the ranks though. Juve paid a lot of money for him. He just didn't settle in there . He was there till he was 22 and they made a profit from him . Some players are just not suited to specific clubs / leagues.

Ya I agree,Juve got 10.5 mill for him and he wasnt half the player then that he'd turn out to be.Wenger turned him from a winger into a striker.

[Paddy Wagon]

.Wenger turned him from a winger into a striker.
He was always a striker underage & at Monaco, It was just that Juve played him on the wing for the most part due to the strikers they had at the time...
Wenger is doing the same with Walcott at the moment playing him out wide to give him experience and get him to take on players...

[stevetharlear]

Ya I agree,Juve got 10.5 mill for him and he wasnt half the player then that he'd turn out to be.Wenger turned him from a winger into a striker.
He's still a bit of a winger though, always at it.

[MonTheHoops]

Larsson from Feyenoord?

[magic]

What abour our own Denis Irwin being told that he would never make it by Leeds!!