Celtic signed Keane 'to squeeze more out of Ireland'

[Echoboy]

bbc.co.uk: British football club Celtic has admitted that it signed Roy Keane in order to win fans in Ireland... just as it has signed Japanese and Polish players to extend its franchise elsewhere.
Speaking in Dubai about the club's global ambitions, club chief executive Peter Lawwell said the club's recent signing policy had been conducted with market growth in mind. "We've got (Shunsuke) Nakamura from Japan, we have brought in two Polish players - Maciej Zurawski and Artur Boruc - and last year we brought Roy Keane to Celtic in order to squeeze growth out of the market in Ireland."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/6159161.stm








Celtic is all about Irish roots my árse :rolleyes:

[xvis]

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=12791 97&postcount=3

three-peat!

[ho chi feen]

Oh jesus...

Here, echoboy? Download this.... now!

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[Echoboy]

Oh jesus...

Here, echoboy? Download this.... now!

http://www.speedyshare.com/790453298.html

Lack of love is right ..... Sell-Thick have been making fools of impressionable Irish Sports fans for years, like a pipe piper, leading them up a garden path and only now they have admitted it.

And the contempt they have for their own league, ffs .... what do guys actually see in them if they actually open their eyes.


Sell-Thick ...... pure horrible club, FACT

[ho chi feen]

Lack of love is right ..... Sell-Thick have been making fools of impressionable Irish Sports fans for years, like a pipe piper, leading them up a garden path and only now they have admitted it.

And the contempt they have for their own league, ffs .... what do guys actually see in them if they actually open their eyes.


Sell-Thick ...... pure horrible club, FACT

Why don't you tell us what you really think?

[POL]

Lack of love is right ..... Sell-Thick have been making fools of impressionable Irish Sports fans for years, like a pipe piper, leading them up a garden path and only now they have admitted it.

And the contempt they have for their own league, ffs .... what do guys actually see in them if they actually open their eyes.


Sell-Thick ...... pure horrible club, FACT

How dare you, Celtic are as Irish as Brother Walfrids mickey.

[MonTheHoops]

Lack of love is right ..... Sell-Thick have been making fools of impressionable Irish Sports fans for years, like a pipe piper, leading them up a garden path and only now they have admitted it.

And the contempt they have for their own league, ffs .... what do guys actually see in them if they actually open their eyes.


Sell-Thick ...... pure horrible club, FACT

Obsessed. Poor oul Echobhoy!

What's a pipe piper by the way?

[homer jay]

What's a pipe piper by the way?

some sort of drainage & manhole contractor i'd imagine. possible works for dyno-rod

[Echoboy]

Obsessed. Poor oul Echobhoy!

What's a pipe piper by the way?

I notice that you didn't try and defend them there MTH, thats as good as an admission of guilty, jebus man !!

Or was it the fact they are squeezing so hard, it rendered you speechless, which is so unlike you .... you are always blowing on about the Shamrock brotherhood ballax yet when they openly admit they are are merely a stat, theres not a peep out of you.

C'mon now Mon ..... whats the story fella, out with it ..... spill the besn man, you knew about this all along so yeah !?!

[MonTheHoops]

I notice that you didn't try and defend them there MTH, thats as good as an admission of guilty, jebus man !!

Or was it the fact they are squeezing so hard, it rendered you speechless, which is so unlike you .... you are always blowing on about the Shamrock brotherhood ballax yet when they openly admit they are are merely a stat, theres not a peep out of you.

C'mon now Mon ..... whats the story fella, out with it ..... spill the besn man, you knew about this all along so yeah !?!

Defend what though? Keane was signed to maximise sales in Ireland? I already alluded to that elsewhere. In the article Lawwell mentions "floating fans". That was his target audience. I fail to see how his admission negates years of links with Ireland though Echobhoy. I think you're a bit mixed up. How does signing Keane for market value negate any links with Ireland?

And when am I blowing about any Shamrock brotherhood? Find me a link Echobhoy!

Maybe the pipe piper will spill the besn for you. Slow down, you'll give yourself a heart attack. You're a part-timer on here Echobhoy - kind of apt isn't it.

[AmadeusDC]

You're a part-timer on here Echobhoy - kind of apt isn't it.

No, I think we just know him by another name.

-AmadeusDC-

[POL]

No, I think we just know him by another name.

-AmadeusDC-

oh FFS, how many conspiracy theories is this today? some is rattled

[AmadeusDC]

oh FFS, how many conspiracy theories is this today? some is rattled

See like I said you're using rattled in every second post. You're beyond desperate at this point Pol. You better do something quick or this will be the day that Pol brought down the SFI. Better make a call out to Lamps pretty sharpish, it won't save you but at least you'll have someone to throw in the towel for ya.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1631/polws1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:D ;)

-AmadeusDC-

[MonTheHoops]

I think recent events have shown that Lamps IS the SFI.

POL knows his stuff on horses, I'll give him that, but in hobby terms that's akin to having the best stamp collection.

[Paddy Wagon]

POL knows his stuff on horses, I'll give him that, but in hobby terms that's akin to having the best stamp collection.
Gold....

[POL]

See like I said you're using rattled in every second post. You're beyond desperate at this point Pol. You better do something quick or this will be the day that Pol brought down the SFI. Better make a call out to Lamps pretty sharpish, it won't save you but at least you'll have someone to throw in the towel for ya.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1631/polws1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:D ;)

-AmadeusDC-

ah at last, the "humorously entitled caption", give it up man for god sake

[STEVIEG]

I think recent events have shown that Lamps IS the SFI.

POL knows his stuff on horses, I'll give him that, but in hobby terms that's akin to having the best stamp collection.

:):):)

[POL]

I think recent events have shown that Lamps IS the SFI.

POL knows his stuff on horses, I'll give him that, but in hobby terms that's akin to having the best stamp collection.as opposed to..pseudo republican activists masquerading as a soccer team

[Sound]

I hereby christen this Bloody Friday.

[AmadeusDC]

The Sports Forum Massacre

-AmadeusDC-

[ho chi feen]

No, I think we just know him by another name.

-AmadeusDC-


Not so, I know Echoboy personally and can vouch that this isn't the case. He genuinely is an SF part-timer. Not an SFNE, but not affiliated with any the regular groupings either.

[MonTheHoops]

Not so, I know Echoboy personally and can vouch that this isn't the case. He genuinely is an SF part-timer. Not an SFNE, but not affiliated with any the regular groupings either.
You're a big fella. Could you give him a hand with the chip? Even if you helped him carry it. I'm sure he's a nice fella and all that, I don't doubt it for a second, but the obsession with Celtic is a bit over the top especially considering there are more United/Liverpool fans etc "raping" Cork City for support every week. City games don't clash with these games though so how Celtic or any other club can be seen as "competition" is beyond me.

In truth the real competition to Cork city or any other eircom league club is their own/the FAI's myopia. That's not something that should be thrown at Celtic's door.

[STEVIEG]

I hereby christen this Bloody Friday.

:):):)

[Echoboy]

You're a part-timer on here Echobhoy - kind of apt isn't it.


Yeah right .... g'wan and burst for yourself. I'm not on here that much so my opinion is less valid. My posts only have credence if i have thousands of posts or some kinda fcúked up logic like that? You'd swear that the PRoCs sports form was the definitive opinion for all matter football. Come down out of the clouds now before you hurt yourself ya fcúkin' loon. Where the feic do you think you are.

[Echoboy]

No, I think we just know him by another name.

-AmadeusDC-

What say what now ?? :confused:

[Echoboy]

You're a big fella. Could you give him a hand with the chip? Even if you helped him carry it. I'm sure he's a nice fella and all that, I don't doubt it for a second, but the obsession with Celtic is a bit over the top especially considering there are more United/Liverpool fans etc "raping" Cork City for support every week. City games don't clash with these games though so how Celtic or any other club can be seen as "competition" is beyond me.

In truth the real competition to Cork city or any other eircom league club is their own/the FAI's myopia. That's not something that should be thrown at Celtic's door.

Ah burst i'd say







To be honest i dont have time for a tete a tete so burst will have to do.

[CORKBHOY]

Yeah right .... g'wan and burst for yourself. I'm not on here that much so my opinion is less valid. My posts only have credence if i have thousands of posts or some kinda fcúked up logic like that? You'd swear that the PRoCs sports form was the definitive opinion for all matter football. Come down out of the clouds now before you hurt yourself ya fcúkin' loon. Where the feic do you think you are.

Come out the clouds yourself biy...
SHOCK HORROR, Celtic sign an Irish player and take advantage of this by selling jersey's and other merchandise and make money.
Celtic is a business. In order to succeed you need money. Fairly simple really. Celtic wouldn't be the first club to do this. Real Madrid bought Beckham, just happend to go on an asian tour and made their money back in less than a week on jersey sales. Coincidence!?!

[ho chi feen]

Come out the clouds yourself biy...
SHOCK HORROR, Celtic sign an Irish player and take advantage of this by selling jersey's and other merchandise and make money.
Celtic is a business. In order to succeed you need money. Fairly simple really. Celtic wouldn't be the first club to do this. Real Madrid bought Beckham, just happend to go on an asian tour and made their money back in less than a week on jersey sales. Coincidence!?!

I think ye might know each other in real life, ye pair of 'collig langers!

[MonTheHoops]

To be honest i dont have time for a tete a tete so burst will have to do.


Brains/Time. It's all irrelevant.

Obsessed.

[Echoboy]

Brains/Time. It's all irrelevant.

Obsessed.

Yeah whatever, couldn't be ársed to be honest.

[MonTheHoops]

Yeah whatever, couldn't be ársed to be honest.

Likewise. I couldn't care less what you, or any other small minded cronies, think of Celtic or any subject for that matter. Happy Christmas.

[Echoboy]

Likewise. I couldn't care less what you, or any other small minded cronies, think of Celtic or any subject for that matter. Happy Christmas.

Rent a crowd ..... never cared much for it y'see !!

[MonTheHoops]

Rent a crowd ..... never cared much for it y'see !!

http://209.85.12.234/1642/181/emo/1danc.gif

[wayne gayle]

To get back to the topic;jeez lads, Celtic signed Roy Keane to strengthen their fan-base in Oireland and squeeze more money out of the 'ra-supporting, bigoted, pig-ignorant "Shelltik" fans that we all know.
You don't say?God that's a huge surprise altogether so it is.
When you have people who are thick enough to subscribe to Setanta Sports just so they can watch "Roy Keane's Celtic!" (as the radio blurb went) then they deserve to be made fools of.
Got what they deserved when he fucked off after only a year.

[MonTheHoops]

To get back to the topic;jeez lads, Celtic signed Roy Keane to strengthen their fan-base in Oireland and squeeze more money out of the 'ra-supporting, bigoted, pig-ignorant "Shelltik" fans that we all know.


Got what they deserved when he fucked off after only a year.


All that hatred and I'm the bigot?

As for Keane leaving, I wouldn't exactly say Celtic have missed him now would you?

[wayne gayle]

All that hatred and I'm the bigot?

As for Keane leaving, I wouldn't exactly say Celtic have missed him now would you?

Where exactly is the word "hate" located in my post?
Because I've searched through it and I can't find it anywhere.
No, Celtic haven't missed him, they didn't sign him to improve the team anyway, just to make money out of ignorant fools.

[MonTheHoops]

Where exactly is the word "hate" located in my post?
Because I've searched through it and I can't find it anywhere.
No, Celtic haven't missed him, they didn't sign him to improve the team anyway, just to make money out of ignorant fools.

So you have to mention the word hate to show hatred then?

Those ignorant fools are what Lawwell alluded to when he mentioned "floating fans". Keane boosted the club's profile and more jerseys got sold in Ireland. I've looked long and hard and can't find a post of mine that's bigotted or in support of the IRA.

If Celtic haven't missed him how have they "got what they deserved?"

P.S. He fucked off after 6 months, not a year.

[Echoboy]

So you have to mention the word hate to show hatred then?

You dont ..... its not mentioned here either though. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwuy6ZjC0I)

Those ignorant fools are what Lawwell alluded to when he mentioned "floating fans". Keane boosted the club's profile and more jerseys got sold in Ireland. I've looked long and hard and can't find a post of mine that's bigotted or in support of the IRA.

So you have to mention the IRA to show you support them then?

[wayne gayle]

So you have to mention the word hate to show hatred then?

Those ignorant fools are what Lawwell alluded to when he mentioned "floating fans". Keane boosted the club's profile and more jerseys got sold in Ireland. I've looked long and hard and can't find a post of mine that's bigotted or in support of the IRA.

If Celtic haven't missed him how have they "got what they deserved?"

P.S. He fucked off after 6 months, not a year.

I have no doubt you are not bigoted or an IRA supporter. But the fact remains that some Celtic fans are. The signing of Keane would have pleased these people immensely.
What I meant when I said "they got what they deserved when he fucked off after a year" is that these fans were probably expecting that he would play out the remaining years of his career at Celtic (he was talking about finishing at the end of 2006-2007 and he joined them halfway through the 2005-2006 season I think).
His short stay at Parkhead would have disappointed them I am sure and the money they gleefully spent on Celtic shirts with his name on the back surely looks like a waste now. I'll bet they cancelled their subscriptions to Setanta when he retired as well.

[MonTheHoops]

You dont ..... its not mentioned here either though. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwuy6ZjC0I)



So you have to mention the IRA to show you support them then?






Well if that's your criteria for supporting the IRA, i.e. not mentioning them, then the whole Sports Forum supports the IRA.:rolleyes:

You found a video of someone shouting at the Rangers players as they got off the bus and that's your criteria for labelling all Celtic fans scum?

I'm extremely interested in hearing your views on the City fans spitting on opposing players on more than one occasion last season. Actually scratch that, I'm not. Face it, it's not all sweetness & light down your way either now is it?

[toffeebhoy]

Lack of love is right ..... Sell-Thick have been making fools of impressionable Irish Sports fans for years, like a pipe piper, leading them up a garden path and only now they have admitted it.

And the contempt they have for their own league, ffs .... what do guys actually see in them if they actually open their eyes.


Sell-Thick ...... pure horrible club, FACT

Celtic, unlike Hibs, didn't sell out on thier Irish roots. Look around the ground the next time they play. The main identity of the club is Irish. The point Lawell was making is that Celtic have reached saturation point in their markets, as a PLC they need to achieve growth hence signings like Keane and Nakamura. Now I'm not a fan of that approach as I would prefer that football was a sport-but Celtic has to compete in Europe and can't do so on the paltry TV money that is dwarfed by the money smaller clubs are getting. As for the contempt they have for the league in Scotland, that was born out of the contempt the Scottish league has for Celtic.

[ho chi feen]

As for the contempt they have for the league in Scotland, that was born out of the contempt the Scottish league has for Celtic.

What's this you say?

[Echoboy]

Rent a crowd .... thats all they are now.

[MonTheHoops]

What's this you say?

It all came to a head after Jim Farry "forgot" to register Cadete before a game against Rangers. It was investigated and he was sacked from the SFA. The SFA had an agenda against Celtic for a very long time. They also wanted the tricolour banned at CP.

[MonTheHoops]

Rent a crowd .... thats all they are now.

Didn't spot anyone putting a brick through the bus window in your YouTube link.

So back to the spitting. Any comments?

[Echoboy]

Didn't spot anyone putting a brick through the bus window in your YouTube link.

Ahh ..... NO !!

Even after you said it ??? Are your eyes playing tricks on you?? Is it actually something you wanted to see?? Its actually worse than i thought so MTH, i fear you have actually gone over the edge. You are now a full blown rent a crowder, never to know normality again.

Pull it together man will ya ffs, you're leaving the side down.

[MonTheHoops]

Ahh ..... NO !!

Even after you said it ??? Are your eyes playing tricks on you?? Is it actually something you wanted to see?? Its actually worse than i thought so MTH, i fear you have actually gone over the edge. You are now a full blown rent a crowder, never to know normality again.

Pull it together man will ya ffs, you're leaving the side down.

Eyes aren't playing any tricks on me. The bus is intact. It's supporters buses leaving Turner's cross that get their windows put in. Back to the spitting, or do my eyes deceive me?

[Echoboy]

Eyes aren't playing any tricks on me. The bus is intact. It's supporters buses leaving Turner's cross that get their windows put in. Back to the spitting, or do my eyes deceive me?

Windows put in ??? ..... in all my time i haven't seen that Mon .... man, are serious here now. I honestly think you are pulling this out of the sky.

We can all do that, but if your honest Celtics troubles would be more plausible.

Mon .... i am not going down this road fella, you are trying to pull it off on a tangent, it works sometimes but not this time.

[MonTheHoops]

Windows put in ??? ..... in all my time i haven't seen that Mon .... man, are serious here now. I honestly think you are pulling this out of the sky.

We can all do that, but if your honest Celtics troubles would be more plausible.

Mon .... i am not going down this road fella, you are trying to pull it off on a tangent, it works sometimes but not this time.

This is what happens with your threads normally. You put up a thread, somewhere along the line you label all Celtic fans scum or other and then when someone points out that your own club has her own problems you bury your head in the sand. I’ve never said all Celtic fans are angels but all City fans aren’t either. What I would suggest though, for your own peace of mind, is to get over your hatred of all things Celtic. I don’t imagine you come in contact with too many Celtic fans in your normal day so don’t let it grind at you chief. It’ll turn you into a bitter old man.

P.S. While we're bringing up YouTube links, can you tell me where in Cork Athenry is and what add ons are being sung along with the Fields?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7OVYy3Rnbc

[toffeebhoy]

Windows put in ??? ..... in all my time i haven't seen that Mon .... man, are serious here now. I honestly think you are pulling this out of the sky.

We can all do that, but if your honest Celtics troubles would be more plausible.

Mon .... i am not going down this road fella, you are trying to pull it off on a tangent, it works sometimes but not this time.

Echoboy I have heard plenty of Pro-IRA chanting in the shed over the years.
And personally I have no problem with that. By the way between 60-80,000 Celtic fans travelled to Seville in 2003 and there was one arrest. Celtic is the only club to win fair play awards from UEFA and FIFA for its fans behaviour.

MON there is no need to attack CCFC to defend Celtic. I love both clubs, have seen arseholes among both supports but definitely they are the best groups of fans in their respective leagues.

[POL]

Echoboy I have heard plenty of Pro-IRA chanting in the shed over the years.
And personally I have no problem with that. By the way between 60-80,000 Celtic fans travelled to Seville in 2003 and there was one arrest. Celtic is the only club to win fair play awards from UEFA and FIFA for its fans behaviour.

wow, give them an award for actually not fighting and behaving like civilised people, they must be so proud.

Soccer is a disgusting business

[MonTheHoops]

MON there is no need to attack CCFC to defend Celtic. I love both clubs, have seen arseholes among both supports but definitely they are the best groups of fans in their respective leagues.

toffeebhoy I have no gripe with CCFC but Echoboy doesn't seem to be able to accept the fact that every support has it's arseholes and it's very easy for anyone to site & nit pick each and every incidence. There seems to be an amazing hatred of all things Celtic from some elements of the City support and while I don;t expect anyone to supprt Celtic, the bile that is spewed is bizarre to say the least.

[Echoboy]

toffeebhoy I have no gripe with CCFC but Echoboy doesn't seem to be able to accept the fact that every support has it's arseholes

When did i say that ??

Mon, you mentioned a window being put in ..... i actually find it hard to believe fella. If you are sure then spit it out man, when ... where ..... did you report it to the Gardai ??

I honestly think i would have heard about it, thats why i dont believe it.

The kids spitting, i agree with you man ..... but in response to that, that particular section is now U16 accompanied with an adult. The club have been working with the Gardai for the few years but last three with a concerted effort to prevent kids acting the maggot and encourage adult supervision ..... but Mon, its fúcking kids man, you do all but chain the little fookers to the seat.

Man you make me laugh to be honest ..... you are going on about kids spitting and in the same post defending Celtic fans antics, and you want me to take it seriously then.

it's very easy for anyone to site & nit pick each and every incidence.

I hope you are not referring to me there fella, and if so where was i nit picking ??

There seems to be an amazing hatred of all things Celtic from some elements of the City support and while I don;t expect anyone to supprt Celtic, the bile that is spewed is bizarre to say the least.

Where is that evident ?? Its in your head man, i dont like Celtic, i dont like wavy blowup plastic shamrocks either though, i think they are tacky and naff but i live with it.

You are over reacting man ..... chillax !!

Bile normally comes when there is nothing else in the stomach to spew, i normally try and hold in the puke when it comes to all things Celtic. Bite my lip if you will ;)

[MonTheHoops]

When did i say that ??

Mon, you mentioned a window being put in ..... i actually find it hard to believe fella. If you are sure then spit it out man, when ... where ..... did you report it to the Gardai ??

I honestly think i would have heard about it, thats why i dont believe it.

The kids spitting, i agree with you man ..... but in response to that, that particular section is now U16 accompanied with an adult. The club have been working with the Gardai for the few years but last three with a concerted effort to prevent kids acting the maggot and encourage adult supervision ..... but Mon, its fúcking kids man, you do all but chain the little fookers to the seat.

Man you make me laugh to be honest ..... you are going on about kids spitting and in the same post defending Celtic fans antics, and you want me to take it seriously then.



I hope you are not referring to me there fella, and if so where was i nit picking ??



Where is that evident ?? Its in your head man, i dont like Celtic, i dont like wavy blowup plastic shamrocks either though, i think they are tacky and naff but i live with it.

You are over reacting man ..... chillax !!


1) The bus window getting put in happened years ago. Don't fret yourself over it. It was a supporters bus from Dublin that got panned in.

2) Where have i ever defended anyone's antics? As I''ve said before, there's morons supporting Celtic. It's not new and it's not unique to Celtic. As we're using the kids line though, I think you'll find most people causing trouble are the 16 year old Buckie drinking have a go heroes that tag along with every club. All I would suggest is that you look after your own house before criminalising anyone elsewhere.

3) Nit picking? Lawwell mentioning that Keane was used for marketing purposes in your terms is somehow denying the link that exists with Ireland. That is nit picking in anyone's book.

You make me laugh yourself Echoboy and I'd love if we could argue & debate issues with a bit of maturity but you have an ill informed opinion of Celtic fans which is something I will never agree with. You say that City are working hard with the Gardai yet if I was to tell you the Celtic board are working extremely hard at tackling sectarianism you'd tell me I'm dreaming. Seriously chief, show a little compensation. I'm not asking you to love Celtic now am I?

[stevetharlear]

Celtic, unlike Hibs, didn't sell out on thier Irish roots. Look around the ground the next time they play. The main identity of the club is Irish. The point Lawell was making is that Celtic have reached saturation point in their markets, as a PLC they need to achieve growth hence signings like Keane and Nakamura. Now I'm not a fan of that approach as I would prefer that football was a sport-but Celtic has to compete in Europe and can't do so on the paltry TV money that is dwarfed by the money smaller clubs are getting. As for the contempt they have for the league in Scotland, that was born out of the contempt the Scottish league has for Celtic.
Lay off the Hibs bhoy, showing a bit of ignorance there...

Rest of the post's alright though.

[Echoboy]

1) The bus window getting put in happened years ago. Don't fret yourself over it. It was a supporters bus from Dublin that got panned in.

How many years, it wasn't in the last ten i'd safely say. You mentioned it like it happened last week.

2) Where have i ever defended anyone's antics? As I''ve said before, there's morons supporting Celtic. It's not new and it's not unique to Celtic.

Its more like you turn a blind eye.

As we're using the kids line though, I think you'll find most people causing trouble are the 16 year old Buckie drinking have a go heroes that tag along with every club. All I would suggest is that you look after your own house before criminalising anyone elsewhere.

The general publics opinion of Celtic isn't 15 year old kids causing trouble. Sectarianism is a massive problem. I didnt criminalise Mon, i reffered to what the chairman said .... you dragged it down this route to be fair.

3) Nit picking? Lawwell mentioning that Keane was used for marketing purposes in your terms is somehow denying the link that exists with Ireland. That is nit picking in anyone's book.

I didn't suggest that at all ..... i had that opinion long before he said that. Him saying it just confirmed it. That club have IMO always treated their fans like rent-a-crowd but to actually come out and say it is a massive insult IMO

You make me laugh yourself Echoboy and I'd love if we could argue & debate issues with a bit of maturity

At least we can both laugh about it :p either that or cry !!

but you have an ill informed opinion of Celtic fans which is something I will never agree with.

I am going with public opinion and my brother lives in Scotland so whatever i hear from him. There is a roaring ongoing debate on the social problems caused by two Scottish clubs and both club manouver to avoid taking the flack.

You say that City are working hard with the Gardai yet if I was to tell you the Celtic board are working extremely hard at tackling sectarianism you'd tell me I'm dreaming.

I'd tell you dont believe everything you are told, read between the lines. Just cause the guy is selling you a big plastic shamrock, it doesn't make his opinion anymore valid.

Seriously chief, show a little compensation. I'm not asking you to love Celtic now am I?

Compensation ..... dont mention the war Mon, a foreign club afforded every single possible resource at the cost of the domestic league. DO NOT mention the war, you are doing well out of this argument man ... leave it be.

I dont have time to devote time to a prolonged debate.

[MonTheHoops]

Compensation ..... dont mention the war Mon, a foreign club afforded every single possible resource at the cost of the domestic league. DO NOT mention the war, you are doing well out of this argument man ... leave it be.

I dont have time to devote time to a prolonged debate.


There's no war Echoboy if only one side is fighting. I'm not having a go but that's the way it is. People don't skip City games because they're off to United, Liverpool or Celtic, they skip them because they're simply not interested.

Here's a few reasons why City aren't more popular:

1 - The product. It's a poor product working on its image but there's an old marketing adage that says the first on the market gets half the customers regardless of quality. It just so happens that the English leagues were given major exposure over here years ago and the Irish "product" wasn't strong enough to compete. There's a reason why Esat, Eircell etc now trade under different names. It's a simplified example but that's the way it goes. Ironically, if the CCFC marketing department were half as savvy as Lawwell things might have been a bit different.

2 - The catchment area. I can tell you without any prejudice that I never even knew City existed until I was around 12 or 13 and I only live 30 miles from the City. There are, or at least there was, ZERO exposure of CCFC outside the City when I was growing up. That's down to either inadequacy or funding, I don't know which, but it's the truth of the matter and I'm sure many on here will agree.

3 - Age. City formed in 1984. Some people will have supported Cork Hibs but again as with the catchment area the majority of people following City on from Cork Hibs will be in and around the City. For anyone over the age of 30, they were well on their way to supporting English clubs long before City arrived.

4 - Personal choice. I choose who I want to support as do many people in Ireland. I wear what clothes I like, eat what food I like etc etc and damned if I'll be told what team I should support.

The rest of your post is extremely ill-informed though I'm sure you think the same of my opinions so let's just agree to disagree. As for plastic shamrocks though, the only time I ever saw one was when Jacobs released them for Euro 88/Italia 90.

[Echoboy]

You turned it again .... you have the attention span of a goldfish Mon ..... if it doesnt suit you, you'll swim away. That is half the reason i wont debate with ya.

Oh forget about .... i give up.

[MonTheHoops]

You turned it again .... you have the attention span of a goldfish Mon ..... if it doesnt suit you, you'll swim away. That is half the reason i wont debate with ya.

Oh forget about .... i give up.

Swim away from what? Ask me a direct question and I'll give you a direct answer. You mention the "cost" to the eircom League. When I explain why such a cost exists you accuse me of taking it off on a tangent.

I've never turned a blind eye to anything but I am finding it kind of tough to gauge just exactly what it is you want from me.