View Full Version : Gerald McCarthy new Hurling Boss
Dunno, I could never really take to him to be honest
BangorFeen
09-11-2006, 10:37 AM
Dunno, I could never really take to him to be honest
Well, we've got him for the next two seasons apparently... Who are likely to be his selectors?
Paddy Wagon
09-11-2006, 11:34 AM
I heard Denis Walsh, Martin Bowen, and a couple others
Paddy Wagon
09-11-2006, 12:14 PM
Johnny Crowley was another, the most frightening of all is the rumour Frank Murph is looking to get back on the backroom team, cant see this set of players playing under Frank....
megatron
09-11-2006, 06:44 PM
best of luck to ger hope he can bring success and get the hunger back
come on the rebels
corkoniense
10-11-2006, 01:45 PM
Johnny Crowley was another, the most frightening of all is the rumour Frank Murph is looking to get back on the backroom team, cant see this set of players playing under Frank....
On a related note, have y'all read the story on the front of the PROC?
"3 By The Lee - The Making of Cork hurlers' 3 in-a-row 1976-78 is a new publication written by Martin Ryan and published by Diarmuid Ryan. It tells the story of the great Cork hurling team of the 1976-78 era, the last hurling team to win three successive All-Ireland senior hurling titles.
It features interviews with Con Murphy, GAA President in that great 1976-78 period, Frank Murphy, the long-term county board secretary, Dr.Con Murphy, the team's medical advisor, as well as many of the great players who made up the team which achieved this remarkable feat. Cork's new hurling manager Gerald McCarthy is also one of the key players in the rebel treble."
I cannot believe this site would publicise such county-board sanctioned dogma.....i thought the PROC was supposed to be irreverant? to any cork gaa fan who hates the institutional structure of the gaa, f**** murphy is the devil incarnate and the kernel of everything that is wrong with the gaa in cork. he is a fcukin ruthless dictator in the stalinist position of permanent secretary, he is surrounded by yes men lackeys who owe their pathetic positions to his patronage and his sectarian views on everything from irish history to the opening of croke park keep the cork gaa locked in the 1950s.....its all i think of every time i go to a club match in the pairc or flower lodge and hear "the broad black brimmer of the IRA" belting out on the tannoy....
we have had four all ireland hurling finals in a row following the strike the fundamental aim of which was to remove this meddling pervert from running the affairs of the cork hurlers....and now the eminence grise is back at it again????
i do despair......
Rebelred
10-11-2006, 02:42 PM
f**** murphy is the devil incarnate and the kernel of everything that is wrong with the gaa in cork. he is a fcukin ruthless dictator in the stalinist position of permanent secretary, he is surrounded by yes men lackeys who owe their pathetic positions to his patronage and his sectarian views on everything from irish history to the opening of croke park keep the cork gaa locked in the 1950s.....its all i think of every time i go to a club match in the pairc or flower lodge and hear "the broad black brimmer of the IRA" belting out on the tannoy....
He's the best administrator in the GAA, by some distance. Love or loath him (I'm not a fan of his), Cork GAA would probably be an organisational mess if it weren't for his ruthlessness
Pheas
10-11-2006, 02:58 PM
I cannot believe this site would publicise such county-board sanctioned dogma.....i thought the PROC was supposed to be irreverant? to any cork gaa fan who hates the institutional structure of the gaa, f**** murphy is the devil incarnate and the kernel of everything that is wrong with the gaa in cork. he is a fcukin ruthless dictator in the stalinist position of permanent secretary, he is surrounded by yes men lackeys who owe their pathetic positions to his patronage and his sectarian views on everything from irish history to the opening of croke park keep the cork gaa locked in the 1950s.....its all i think of every time i go to a club match in the pairc or flower lodge and hear "the broad black brimmer of the IRA" belting out on the tannoy....
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. There's elections every year for his position if anyone wants it, but since very few people are willing to give up their jobs to have a go at it he's probably there to stay for the time being. Most of the stories that do the rounds about Frank Murphy are based on fourth hand information and occasional rants from malcontents in the Irish Examiner. His relationship with players isn't remotely as bad as people make out, although he does represent a more conservative mindset that is at odds with the attitude emerging within the GPA.
The best thing to do if you're interested is to get involved in the GAA the same way guys like F**** Murphy do. Make yourself available for GAA related activities 24/7 - 365. People only get into F**** Murphys position by doing this for years. The work that players and organisers alike put into Gaelic Games is absolutely incredible. It seems almost more admirable when you see the tosh displayed by billionaires Barcelona and Chelsea in the latest round of the Champions league. And then people act like they are owed something by the GAA, both the players and organisers. It sickens me to see the way they're regularly taken apart in public forums and in the media.
I could go on but then again this is the PRC sports Forum, who the hell is going to take any notice.
Rebelred
10-11-2006, 03:16 PM
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. There's elections every year for his position if anyone wants it, but since very few people are willing to give up their jobs to have a go at it he's probably there to stay for the time being. Most of the stories that do the rounds about Frank Murphy are based on fourth hand information and occasional rants from malcontents in the Irish Examiner. His relationship with players isn't remotely as bad as people make out, although he does represent a more conservative mindset that is at odds with the attitude emerging within the GPA.
The best thing to do if you're interested is to get involved in the GAA the same way guys like F**** Murphy do. Make yourself available for GAA related activities 24/7 - 365. People only get into F**** Murphys position by doing this for years. The work that players and organisers alike put into Gaelic Games is absolutely incredible. It seems almost more admirable when you see the tosh displayed by billionaires Barcelona and Chelsea in the latest round of the Champions league. And then people act like they are owed something by the GAA, both the players and organisers. It sickens me to see the way they're regularly taken apart in public forums and in the media.
I could go on but then again this is the PRC sports Forum, who the hell is going to take any notice.
Well said, and I forgot to mention,
Best of luck to Gerald Mac, I've every confidence in his ability to get the job done
Johnnyc
10-11-2006, 03:24 PM
There's likely to be a return to a more direct game under Gerald, best of luck to him.
corkoniense
10-11-2006, 03:28 PM
He's the best administrator in the GAA, by some distance. Love or loath him (I'm not a fan of his), Cork GAA would probably be an organisational mess if it weren't for his ruthlessness
ah the oft-quoted defence..."he's a great administrator"....that is very debatable....try to fit your arse into the seats in the uncovered stand...and now try the new seats in the covered stand, who was responsible for that double cock up???..but it is also beside the point. his (well-paid, self-paid) job is as an administrator, but he exercises executive power......do you not see the difference??? who runs the department of defence? The minister, not the generals. who runs the department of justice? the minister, not the cops(bad example i know!)..etc etc.
there is a democratic process in cork gaa which elects officers to different positions...but they have no real power as it rests wtih the permanent secretary of the board....that state of affairs is a replica of a soviet politburo as the "great administrator" pulls all the strings...and as proud corkman it sickens me to see our county board ruled by a dictator.....the fucking unionists are right....we are not free if we are happy to be told what to do by aggresive gangsters who pay themselves undisclosed wages with our gate money....
wake the fuck up people!!!!!
leeland
10-11-2006, 03:29 PM
There is no election for the post of Secretary, it is a full time salaried position, if fact Frank cannot be fired. He is a great organiser and administrator but even if you thought you could do a better job you could not run against him.
corkoniense
10-11-2006, 03:35 PM
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. There's elections every year for his position if anyone wants it, but since very few people are willing to give up their jobs to have a go at it he's probably there to stay for the time being. Most of the stories that do the rounds about Frank Murphy are based on fourth hand information and occasional rants from malcontents in the Irish Examiner. His relationship with players isn't remotely as bad as people make out, although he does represent a more conservative mindset that is at odds with the attitude emerging within the GPA.
The best thing to do if you're interested is to get involved in the GAA the same way guys like F**** Murphy do. Make yourself available for GAA related activities 24/7 - 365. People only get into F**** Murphys position by doing this for years. The work that players and organisers alike put into Gaelic Games is absolutely incredible. It seems almost more admirable when you see the tosh displayed by billionaires Barcelona and Chelsea in the latest round of the Champions league. And then people act like they are owed something by the GAA, both the players and organisers. It sickens me to see the way they're regularly taken apart in public forums and in the media.
I could go on but then again this is the PRC sports Forum, who the hell is going to take any notice.
i know exacltly what im talking about langer...and i did get involved in training underage teams and so on, but i quit because of fuckers kow towing to frank murphy and his appointed bullies at all levels of county board rule.
your point about anyone applying for the job is absolute nonsense....he was placed in that position by con "ex president of the gaa" murphy who was secretary of board from 1957 against the wishes of many involved at the time...many efforts have been made to find out his salary but NOBODY knows...if you ever asked (and it has been done) about his salary you would be told to shut by another board delegate because that is the way things work with the board....
and as for your comment on malcontents in de paper, you must be fucking kidding me....jim o sullivan might as welll be an board sanctioned scribe, such is the loyalty of the man to the board thruout the strike and the vote on croke park.....
ho chi feen
10-11-2006, 06:32 PM
Happy for him, the man is an absolute gent. Being realistic, he's as good an appointment as we could have hoped for. Keeping it Southside too.
stevetharlear
10-11-2006, 09:06 PM
There's likely to be a return to a more direct game under Gerald, best of luck to him.
Why would he though, it's not like the running game hasn't been successful, let's not forget that it was a brutal team performance, just a really bad day in this years final that lost us the 3 in a row, not our running game. Kilkenny were unreal and still we could've nicked a draw at the end playing shite hurling.
A mixture of both would be nice but we still have to place the bigger emphasis on what we're better than anyone else at.
Best of luck to him.
KolaKubes
10-11-2006, 09:14 PM
Happy for him, the man is an absolute gent. Being realistic, he's as good an appointment as we could have hoped for. Keeping it Southside too.
Yes, despite the fact that a mere handful of the entire Cork squad come from South of the River Lee these days. :rolleyes:
Granted, Newtown pushing that waster Mulcahy forward as captain when he shouldn't even have been on the 15 cost us a treble to my mind but you'd the same deal with Alan Browne a few years ago. The donkey.
ho chi feen
10-11-2006, 09:22 PM
Yes, despite the fact that a mere handful of the entire Cork squad come from South of the River Lee these days. :rolleyes:
We need all the representation we can get these days, KK.
cork*girl
11-11-2006, 10:07 PM
Yes, despite the fact that a mere handful of the entire Cork squad come from South of the River Lee these days. :rolleyes:
Granted, Newtown pushing that waster Mulcahy forward as captain when he shouldn't even have been on the 15 cost us a treble to my mind but you'd the same deal with Alan Browne a few years ago. The donkey.
Yes.Yes. Quite correct! But he cant be pushed as captain bcoz eirns own won the county..and now that brian corcaron is retiring who will it be?
KolaKubes
11-11-2006, 10:34 PM
Yes.Yes. Quite correct! But he cant be pushed as captain bcoz eirns own won the county..and now that brian corcaron is retiring who will it be?
I think it's an outstanding opportunity to end this daft tradition actually.
The captain should be the best candidate for the job, full stop.
st finnbar
12-11-2006, 02:32 AM
just another great barrs man to take over
must really hurt the norries that ye have no one that has the capabilty to manage a top team:eek:
Blackpool4ever
12-11-2006, 04:38 PM
Gobsheen. Donal O'Grady was born and reared on the northside. And played hurling for the Glen as a kid. Love these arrivistes who know FUCK ALL about the scene
KolaKubes
12-11-2006, 07:09 PM
just another great barrs man to take over
must really hurt the norries that ye have no one that has the capabilty to manage a top team:eek:
Heh heh, the Barrs, based in fucking Togher isn't it?
Pot Kettle Black
Sound
12-11-2006, 09:18 PM
just another great barrs man to take over
must really hurt the norries that ye have no one that has the capabilty to manage a top team:eek:
Where to begin?
northmallexile
12-11-2006, 10:16 PM
Yes.Yes. Quite correct! But he cant be pushed as captain bcoz eirns own won the county..and now that brian corcaron is retiring who will it be?
Hang on, is Corcoran definitely retiring? When was this announced?
wunhunglo
13-11-2006, 12:33 AM
the gaa, f**** murphy is the devil incarnate
It's spelled Frank. Afraid of being banned from every pitch in the county or what.
st finnbar
13-11-2006, 01:52 AM
Gobsheen. Donal O'Grady was born and reared on the northside. And played hurling for the Glen as a kid. Love these arrivistes who know FUCK ALL about the scene
now kid, the question is do ye have a manager to take over the cork team
the answer is no, so f off back to your slum, and support neptune:-P
Johnnyc
13-11-2006, 09:57 AM
Hang on, is Corcoran definitely retiring? When was this announced?
He's likely to announce it tomorrow at a press conference for his new book tomorrow.
Whatever he does he's been a wonderful servant to Cork.
leeland
13-11-2006, 10:06 AM
All the Barrs talent is over 50 and on the sideline, the only hurler they have is Curran, apart from all the imports. Still at least they have come back up to premier minor hurling after a while down in the B grade, the only success the Barrs are going to have is with people like JBM and Gerald Mac managing because they have nothing else out there
Lamps
13-11-2006, 10:34 AM
He's likely to announce it tomorrow at a press conference for his new book tomorrow.
Whatever he does he's been a wonderful servant to Cork.
i thought it was strange that his book was being serialised and he was still playing. if this is true its a huge blow. gonna need at least 3 maybe even 5 new starting forwards next year. big job for the new boss
theporge
13-11-2006, 11:14 AM
I'm sure that the appointment of Gerald Mac will see the end of the short passing style of hurling we've adopted in recent years. My question is : Who will Cork play at Centre-half forward and full-forward? If, as predicted, Cork abandon the short-pass game , then in both these positions you'll need a ball-winner.
So will we see Diarmaid O'Sullivan adopt his club role for county? If Brian Corcoran does retire who fills the void at full-forward, again must be a ball-winner?
Interesting times ahead
Lamps
13-11-2006, 11:58 AM
I'm sure that the appointment of Gerald Mac will see the end of the short passing style of hurling we've adopted in recent years. My question is : Who will Cork play at Centre-half forward and full-forward? If, as predicted, Cork abandon the short-pass game , then in both these positions you'll need a ball-winner.
So will we see Diarmaid O'Sullivan adopt his club role for county? If Brian Corcoran does retire who fills the void at full-forward, again must be a ball-winner?
Interesting times ahead
He may experiment with Sully at full forward, its very debateable as to whether he has the mobility to play intercounty 11. For me Niall Mac is fine at CF, he'll win plenty of ball and in his 3 finals against Kilkenny was probably cork's best player
Sound
13-11-2006, 12:05 PM
Come back Setanta!
leeland
13-11-2006, 12:06 PM
Sully is a handy club forward but not an inter county forward, when he came up against Pat Mul in the county final he had to be moved
northmallexile
13-11-2006, 12:47 PM
Come back Setanta!
Well, yeah. After 2 and a half years, he's got to be sick of the sun, sea, sand and fit bronzed Aussie women throwing themselves at him by now, surely? Surely?
Can't see Sully in at full-forward. Yeah, he'd win a lot of ball, but I don't think he has the deftness of touch required. Mind you, what do I know?
Lamps
13-11-2006, 01:00 PM
Come back Setanta!
just to back up your point on Santy and what it means to be a pro.
Here's a before and after shot.
http://www.rebelgaa.com/images/setohailpin.jpg
http://www.heraldsun.news.c om.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5005625,00.jp g
Sound
13-11-2006, 01:15 PM
just to back up your point on Santy and what it means to be a pro.
Here's a before and after shot.
http://www.rebelgaa.com/images/setohailpin.jpg
http://www.heraldsun.news.c om.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5005625,00.jp g
Jesus Christ he'd eat any full back in the country if he can still hurl. I wonder how his speed has been affected.
Lamps
13-11-2006, 01:22 PM
Jesus Christ he'd eat any full back in the country if he can still hurl. I wonder how his speed has been affected.
And that pic is over a year old.
Another stone of muscle supposedly added since.
Read an interesting article by Langer Hayes yesterday on the difference between amateur and pro. I'll see if i can dig it out.
Rebelred
13-11-2006, 02:46 PM
Jesus Christ he'd eat any full back in the country if he can still hurl. I wonder how his speed has been affected.
If anything I'd bet he's faster. Saw Aisake around town a few weeks back, some shoulders on him now
Sound
13-11-2006, 02:58 PM
Woooo - can't believe that didn't make the front page of the Cork Independent. Get a tribunal under way straight away! You must be taking the piss bud.
Whas da bleedin' story Anto?
Johnnyc
13-11-2006, 03:19 PM
Woooo - can't believe that didn't make the front page of the Cork Independent. Get a tribunal under way straight away! You must be taking the piss bud.
They actually had that story on the back page of the echo I remember!!
I think sully should be given a go in full forward, we've plenty of quality backs if it works out.
Gerald needs to give a few of the young lads a couple of games in the league to see if they are up to it.
Natty Dread
13-11-2006, 04:29 PM
I think sully should be given a go in full forward, we've plenty of quality backs if it works out.
After seeing him in the county championship I wouldn't be too convinced. He's good but he doesn't have that cute sharpness that forwards need.
We'd be better off finding new talent.
Natty Dread
13-11-2006, 04:31 PM
Here's a before and after shot.
http://www.rebelgaa.com/images/setohailpin.jpg
http://www.heraldsun.news.c om.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5005625,00.jp g
Mother of God....
Youghal Exile
14-03-2009, 06:48 PM
Dunno, I could never really take to him to be honest
Right again POL.
Langer Dan
14-03-2009, 06:54 PM
The SFI had the measure of this joker.
Right again POL. it gives me no satisfaction.
bigboyfoolish
15-03-2009, 01:47 AM
Gobsheen. Donal O'Grady was born and reared on the northside. And played hurling for the Glen as a kid. Love these arrivistes who know FUCK ALL about the scene
That's something that I've always wondered about actually.
How come he left the Glen?
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