The Keane "singlehandedly" theory

[POL]

a common load of cobblers argument that is thrown up here in defence of Keane is that he singlehandedly dragged Ireland into the world cup of 2002 completely overlooking the contribution of the other players. This is a common ploy used by Keanites whereby they attribute positive results to Keane and overlook and ignore negative results. Using this logic it is thereby valid to state that Keane singlehandedly cost Ireland qualification to the world cup of 2006.

[STEVIEG]

Great thread
Just what we need

[Sound]

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[dotty]

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well said.

[STEVIEG]

http://i13.tinypic.com/4bxntdd.jpg

[EDDIEB]

Jesus wept......

[xvis]

a common load of cobblers argument that is thrown up here in defence of Keane is that he singlehandedly dragged Ireland into the world cup of 2002 completely overlooking the contribution of the other players. This is a common ploy used by Keanites whereby they attribute positive results to Keane and overlook and ignore negative results. Using this logic it is thereby valid to state that Keane singlehandedly cost Ireland qualification to the world cup of 2006.


That performance by Keane at home to the Netherlands is the one of the greatest individual performances I've ever seen on a football pitch.

It stands up there with Keane in Turin as the two outstanding performances of his career.

fair play.



That was a tough group, Portugal and the Netherlands were two magnificent sides from a wonderful Euro 2000. And Ireland remained unbeaten. ..I recall Keane scoring in the home match with Portugal as well.


but as you say, lets give some credit too to the supporting cast... Holland, Kinsella, Duff, Given, Robbie ....even Kilbane had some decent games!


I'd put the failure to qualify for 2006 down to a poor start to the group.

[Teknique]

back and to the left
back and to the left
back and to the left

Keano was a patsy

[Lamps]

I'd put the failure to qualify for 2006 down to a poor start to the group.

wtf?

[STEVIEG]

wtf?


Bad draw in paris where they should have won
Bad draw against the Swiss too i think

[Lamps]

Bad draw in paris where they should have won
Bad draw against the Swiss too i think

it is generally accepted that not getting beat in these games was a good start, the reason we didn't qualify was the shit that came later.

[STEVIEG]

Yeah i was just explaining what he could have meant
Think he got mixed up with Euro 2004

[Lamps]

Yeah i was just explaining what he could have meant
Think he got mixed up with Euro 2004

Keane didn't play in that campaign

[STEVIEG]

Keane didn't play in that campaign


Yup, but Xvis got mixed up with the two campaigns
(understandable as they have both ended in similar abject failure)
In fact, i saw a post of his a sec ago he deleted it where he mentioned the Swiss and Russia, which was the Euro 2004 campaign

[xvis]

Yeah i was just explaining what he could have meant
Think he got mixed up with Euro 2004

yes,

had the opening two defeats to russia and.. of euro 2004 in mind.


In 2006, Ireland just weren't good enough.

The whole midfield quartet from weren't as good as 2002, ..4 points dropped to Isreal.
but ultimately Ireland weren't good enough.

[STEVIEG]

ultimately Ireland weren't good enough.


Yup

[KolaKubes]

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Off.

Seconded.

Sound, I think we're going to have to found the "Intelligentsia of the Sports Forum", this anti-Keane nonsense is beyond the pale! ;)

Applicants for the ISF, a sort of "third way" for the sports forum based on the founding principle of the "hybrid defender" accepted from all-comers.

Not you Homer Jay. :P

I nominate Sound and Monthehoops as President and Vice-President of the ISF.

[homer jay]

Seconded.

Sound, I think we're going to have to found the "Intelligentsia of the Sports Forum", this anti-Keane nonsense is beyond the pale! ;)

Applicants for the ISF, a sort of "third way" for the sports forum based on the founding principle of the "hybrid defender" accepted from all-comers.

Not you Homer Jay. :P

I nominate Sound and Monthehoops as President and Vice-President of the ISF.

i got a better idea. how about you email admin and get them to make you your own little 'utd are brilliant' forum just like the bob. in there you can wax lyrical about how great everything is down OT way, and be free of objective criticism. it would make a lot of people very happy.

[POL]

The whole midfield quartet from weren't as good as 2002

what! you actually mean there were players other than Roy keane on the team?????

[Lamps]

Seconded.

Sound, I think we're going to have to found the "Intelligentsia of the Sports Forum", this anti-Keane nonsense is beyond the pale! ;)

Applicants for the ISF, a sort of "third way" for the sports forum based on the founding principle of the "hybrid defender" accepted from all-comers.

Not you Homer Jay. :P

I nominate Sound and Monthehoops as President and Vice-President of the ISF.

MON already has a one man group, loosely affiliated with us, the Joe Higgins of the sports forum.

The ISF with Sound and Kola? Hybrid defenders? Sounds like a hoot.

There can only ever be one, the original and best, SFI. You need players with charisma in this game

[Lamps]

what! you actually mean there were players other than Roy keane on the team?????

I sense a u-turn.

Why did XVis bring up 2004 if Keane wasn't involved?

Genuine question

[POL]

I sense a u-turn.

Why did XVis bring up 2004 if Keane wasn't involved?

Genuine question

you see when you start stripping away the layers, its easy to destroy the "singlehandedly" theory

[parrotbait]

POL you are a prat.

[KolaKubes]

i got a better idea. how about you email admin and get them to make you your own little 'utd are brilliant' forum just like the bob. in there you can wax lyrical about how great everything is down OT way, and be free of objective criticism. it would make a lot of people very happy.

No, I like objective criticism.

You're about as objective as Big Ian, however.

[xvis]

what! you actually mean there were players other than Roy keane on the team?????

I said that in my first post, ...there was a good supporting cast. football is a team game.

Irelands midfield of Keane, Holland, Kinsella, Kilbane and Duff of 2002 was superb. ..with Roy being the leader.


I would have this as the major difference to the 2006 side. Holland and Kinsella retired too soon in my opinion. Keane got old, Duff was patchy.
Kilbane lost the magic!

[Killyoursons]

I said that in my first post, ...there was a good supporting cast. football is a team game.

Irelands midfield of Keane, Holland, Kinsella, Kilbane and Duff of 2002 was superb. ..with Roy being the leader.


I would have this as the major difference to the 2006 side. Holland and Kinsella retired too soon in my opinion. Keane got old, Duff was patchy.
Kilbane lost the magic!

True enough. And they missed Keane at crucial stages during the World Cup. Against Spain in the first half they were embarassed, only a very dodgy offside decision saved them from being two down at half time.
By the time he played in the 2006 qualifiers, Keane was past his best, and a lot of the other players (such as Duff) were badly out of form.

[Lamps]

True enough. And they missed Keane at crucial stages during the World Cup. Against Spain in the first half they were embarassed, only a very dodgy offside decision saved them from being two down at half time.
By the time he played in the 2006 qualifiers, Keane was past his best, and a lot of the other players (such as Duff) were badly out of form.

So you agree with us.

The singlehandedly line is bullshit

[Killyoursons]

So you agree with us.

The singlehandedly line is bullshit

Yes and no. Obviously he didn't drag them there on his own, but Ireland in 2001 were as clsoe to a one-man team as I've seen in international football.

I'd be more inclined to conclude that the 'Roy Keane never cared about playing with Ireland' line is bullshit. But maybe the fact that he was outstanding against Portugal and the Netherlands was just a front to cover his actual lack of commitment ;-)

[KolaKubes]

MON already has a one man group, loosely affiliated with us, the Joe Higgins of the sports forum.

I like the idea of that. The Kolakubes party of one.

Tough on hypocrisy, tough on the causes of hypocrisy.

A combined bloc on the really serious issues such as the Munster brand.

Free to indulge myself in extremist rants about Liverpool and the worship of the demi-God that is "The Roy".

The Sports Forum Intelligentsia Communion.

[mrMousey]

Tell the truth... Keano retired because of back injury












all those games, carrying all those players...

you'd have a pain in your back too carrying the likes of Kilbane, Robbie, Breen ... an endless list

[homer jay]

Tough on hypocrisy, tough on the causes of hypocrisy.

LMFAO :D

[Lamps]

Yes and no. Obviously he didn't drag them there on his own, but Ireland in 2001 were as clsoe to a one-man team as I've seen in international football.


Platini (9 goals from midfield) in 84

Diego in 86.

Consider yourself owned

p.s. I wouldn't even consider Stiockov and Hagi one man teams and they were far better than Roy

[Killyoursons]

Platini (9 goals from midfield) in 84

Diego in 86.

Consider yourself owned

p.s. I wouldn't even consider Stiockov and Hagi one man teams and they were far better than Roy

Read my post again. This time, take note of the "as I've seen" bit.
And, in my opinion, Keane was more important for Ireland in 2001 than either Hagi or Stoichkov were for Romania or Bulgaria in 1994. A matter of opinion, obviously, but Stoichkov and especially Hagi had better players around them then Keane did.

[Actin The Sham]

I wouldn't even consider Stiockov and Hagi one man teams and they were far better than Roy



Those eastern European surnames can be quite a mouthful, eh langer?

Kind Regards


Nimic.


:)


Heh heh heh


"Stiockov" me hole!

[POL]

Those eastern European surnames can be quite a mouthful, eh langer?

Kind Regards


Nimic.


:)


Heh heh heh


"Stiockov" me hole!

someone's rattled.

[Actin The Sham]

someone's rattled.





Mockery.


You know nothing about wummery.

FFS.


:)

[xvis]

So you agree with us.

The singlehandedly line is bullshit


Yes and no.

well, seeing that 'singlehandedly' is an oxymoron seeing that football is a team game. Then the answer is obviously no.

..even Platini had Tigana and Giresse in support,
Maradona had Burrachaga and Valdano.

..but if Ireland were without Keane in the 2002 qualifiers than the Netherlands would undoubtedly have been in the finals. Keane's performances were sporting exellence.
based on that the answer is yes.


I was going to bring up Stoichkov and Hagi as an example of another point, (Stoichkov taking Bulgaria to a world cup semi's) ...relative to the situation of George Best.
Great players make things happen around them and elevate the team, and the fact that Best couldn't get the North to a world finals is a big negative in my book. A great player surrounded by a bunch of solid pros is capable of big things, (see Stoichkov) Jennings was around at the time as well.
That and he only played 37 international matches.


I've never really been a big George Best sympathiser, ...more of a Law man.

[Killyoursons]

well, seeing that 'singlehandedly' is an oxymoron seeing that football is a team game. Then the answer is obviously no.

..even Platini had Tigana and Giresse in support,
Maradona had Burrachaga and Valdano.

..but if Ireland were without Keane in the 2002 qualifiers than the Netherlands would undoubtedly have been in the finals. Keane's performances were sporting exellence.
based on that the answer is yes.


I was going to bring up Stoichkov and Hagi as an example of another point, (Stoichkov taking Bulgaria to a world cup semi's) ...relative to the situation of George Best.
Great players make things happen around them and elevate the team, and the fact that Best couldn't get the North to a world finals is a big negative in my book. A great player surrounded by a bunch of solid pros is capable of big things, (see Stoichkov) Jennings was around at the time as well.
That and he only played 37 international matches.


I've never really been a big George Best sympathiser, ...more of a Law man.

Slightly misleading comparison. Easier to qualify for the WC in the 90s than in the 60s and 70s, no?

[xvis]

Slightly misleading comparison. Easier to qualify for the WC in the 90s than in the 60s and 70s, no?

not really, less countries about, you generally only had to play 4 or 6 matches with the group winners qualifying. Africa and Asia generally only had one participant each through the seventies.

The North had a decent chance of playing in 66, ..drawing away to Albania in their last match, and Switzerland (Irish bogey side) qualified.

[homer jay]

..but if Ireland were without Keane in the 2002 qualifiers than the Netherlands would undoubtedly have been in the finals. Keane's performances were sporting exellence.
based on that the answer is yes.

you could say exactly the same thing about shay given. the fact that given made incredible saves against iran in the playoffs suggests, if anyone one player deserves credit for getting us there, its shay given.

[xvis]

you could say exactly the same thing about shay given. the fact that given made incredible saves against iran in the playoffs suggests, if anyone one player deserves credit for getting us there, its shay given.

errah, he was alright, that Iran tie was done and dusted after the first leg ;)

[Killyoursons]

not really, less countries about, you generally only had to play 4 or 6 matches with the group winners qualifying. Africa and Asia generally only had one participant each through the seventies.

The North had a decent chance of playing in 66, ..drawing away to Albania in their last match, and Switzerland (Irish bogey side) qualified.

Fewer countries, yes, but only the group winners went through. Bulgaria finished second in their qualifying group for the '94 tournament.
(And they wouldn't have qualified if France had managed even a draw at home to Israel. Even great players need a bit of luck sometimes.)

[POL]

you could say exactly the same thing about shay given. the fact that given made incredible saves against iran in the playoffs suggests, if anyone one player deserves credit for getting us there, its shay given.

that won't go down well with the Keanites, they don't do truth

[homer jay]

that won't go down well with the Keanites, they don't do truth

yeah, i'd better give up now before i'm accused of rampant ABUism. keane and utd are untouchable around here ;-)

[POL]

yeah, i'd better give up now before i'm accused of rampant ABUism. keane and utd are untouchable around here ;-)

Keane isn't, "The Keane question" will never be settled untill the Keanites repent and beg for mercy at the feet of their overlords in the SFI, KINGS OF THE INTERNET

[xvis]

Fewer countries, yes, but only the group winners went through. Bulgaria finished second in their qualifying group for the '94 tournament.
(And they wouldn't have qualified if France had managed even a draw at home to Israel. Even great players need a bit of luck sometimes.)

..it was all Ginola's fault of course. ;)


them's the breaks, great players need a break.

I still reckon Bestie underachieved on the singlehandedness front.
Too busy with the ladyeez
..fail to prepare, prepare to fail an' all that.

[Actin The Sham]

SFI, KINGS OF THE INTERNET




Someone's rattled.......

[Paddy Wagon]

SFI, KINGS OF THE INTERNET
Are you honestly proud of that claim? Fighting and argueing with people at a computer screen you will never meet.....
This place has gone to the dogs........

[POL]

Are you honestly proud of that claim? Fighting and argueing with people at a computer screen you will never meet.....
This place has gone to the dogs........someone' s rattled, and badly rattled at that

[Paddy Wagon]

someone's rattled, and badly rattled at that
No Polly Wolly not in the slightest I find it absolutley hillarious that you and your lapdog Lampshade have this notion of grandeour in your heads... To be honest some of the stuff ye can come out with at times is worthwhile and interesting (What hurler thread etc..) but then ye decide on yet another crusade against Roy Keane & Munster Rugby or even the thread about Glenda Gilsons stalker What the Fuck like?.. I havnt a clue what the other members think of this Wumming, But I ignore it for the most part, any thread I see turning into a Keane or Munster Bashing I stay well clear of because its the same shit coming up in every thread every fortnight or so...
So in conclusion Your BORING the arse off me(and I dare say one or two others on the forum),

[homer jay]

Keane isn't, "The Keane question" will never be settled untill the Keanites repent and beg for mercy at the feet of their overlords in the SFI, KINGS OF THE INTERNET

:roll: give it over will ya, ffs

[Mr. Derp]

you could say exactly the same thing about shay given. the fact that given made incredible saves against iran in the playoffs suggests, if anyone one player deserves credit for getting us there, its shay given.
Too fucking right, Given was easily as important as Keane in getting us to the finals.

[ho chi feen]

That performance by Keane at home to the Netherlands is the one of the greatest individual performances I've ever seen on a football pitch.

It stands up there with Keane in Turin as the two outstanding performances of his career.

fair play.



That was a tough group, Portugal and the Netherlands were two magnificent sides from a wonderful Euro 2000. And Ireland remained unbeaten. ..I recall Keane scoring in the home match with Portugal as well.


but as you say, lets give some credit too to the supporting cast... Holland, Kinsella, Duff, Given, Robbie ....even Kilbane had some decent games!



Top scorer too. See also: Cyprus away.

[baby face]

a common load of cobblers argument that is thrown up here in defence of Keane is that he singlehandedly dragged Ireland into the world cup of 2002 completely overlooking the contribution of the other players. This is a common ploy used by Keanites whereby they attribute positive results to Keane and overlook and ignore negative results. Using this logic it is thereby valid to state that Keane singlehandedly cost Ireland qualification to the world cup of 2006.
get a life ya fucking muppit

[POL]

get a life ya fucking muppitastounding logic from the Keanites.

[Lamps]

Keane is some langer

[homer jay]

Keane is some langer

great analysis there

[POL]

Keane is also a liar and a cheat.

He deliberately set out to injure Haaland which means he is a cheat

v.intr.
To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
Informal. To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.

And then lied about the incident when Dunphy had to take the rap in front t of the FA through the "Artistic Licence" line.

[bricktop]

Keane is also a liar and a cheat.

He deliberately set out to injure Haaland which means he is a cheat

v.intr.
To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
Informal. To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.

And then lied about the incident when Dunphy had to take the rap in front t of the FA through the "Artistic Licence" line.
it's no good saying the same thing over and over. if keane pisses yourself and lamps off that much, i've an idea. why don't ye save yer shillings and go over to a sunderland match( away would be safer for ye) try to get a seat behind the dugout, and blow the ears off keane with the same shit ye post here about the man?

[Loftydog]

a common load of cobblers argument that is thrown up here in defence of Keane is that he singlehandedly dragged Ireland into the world cup of 2002 completely overlooking the contribution of the other players. This is a common ploy used by Keanites whereby they attribute positive results to Keane and overlook and ignore negative results. Using this logic it is thereby valid to state that Keane singlehandedly cost Ireland qualification to the world cup of 2006.

You're gonna need a bigger bait...

[AmadeusDC]

You're gonna need a bigger bait...

heh heh

-AmadeusDC-

[Lamps]

You're gonna need a bigger bait...

7 pages and counting would suggest otherwise.

dumbass

[POL]

hehe, you'd have to wonder sometimes lamps, you really would

[STEVIEG]

if keane pisses yourself and lamps off that much, i've an idea. why don't ye save yer shillings and go over to a sunderland match( away would be safer for ye) try to get a seat behind the dugout, and blow the ears off keane with the same shit ye post here about the man?


There's a big difference between being an "internet king" and actually being able to confront someone in real life

They wouldn't last five minutes with Roy i'd say............

[Sound]

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[STEVIEG]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_content/32833.html


better than :):):)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/FEATURES/32757.html

[Sound]

Keane launches attack on 'conmen'
Former Manchester United star Roy Keane has claimed the Premiership is full of players who are trying to cheat by diving and conning the referee. Keane, now boss of Sunderland, said: "I see lads I've played with dive, and going down like they've been shot. It drives me crazy. "I'm glad I'm not playing in the Premiership anymore. "Trying to get another player sent off is cheating. And a lot of players are trying to put one over on the referee."
The 35-year-old former United skipper has had his fair share of scrapes with referees. But he insists the situation is now out of control - and feels the officials have a very difficult job.
He added: "I'm on my high horse because I went out and kicked a lot of players but I'm on about conning the referee. "Referees need to know the players, there are a lot out there who are trying to pull one over referees by diving and chasing the referee. "There are plenty out there doing that and it must be hard for the referee. Players have got to look to treat the referees fairly." Keane also believes that managers - as well as players - have a responsibility to stamp out the diving. He said: "I'm trying to do that with my players."

Ahem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs&mode=related&search=

[STEVIEG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs&mode=related&search=


Bad decision

[POL]

Keane launches attack on 'conmen'
Former Manchester United star Roy Keane has claimed the Premiership is full of players who are trying to cheat by diving and conning the referee. Keane, now boss of Sunderland, said: "I see lads I've played with dive, and going down like they've been shot. It drives me crazy. "I'm glad I'm not playing in the Premiership anymore. "Trying to get another player sent off is cheating. And a lot of players are trying to put one over on the referee."
The 35-year-old former United skipper has had his fair share of scrapes with referees. But he insists the situation is now out of control - and feels the officials have a very difficult job.
He added: "I'm on my high horse because I went out and kicked a lot of players but I'm on about conning the referee. "Referees need to know the players, there are a lot out there who are trying to pull one over referees by diving and chasing the referee. "There are plenty out there doing that and it must be hard for the referee. Players have got to look to treat the referees fairly." Keane also believes that managers - as well as players - have a responsibility to stamp out the diving. He said: "I'm trying to do that with my players."

Ahem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs&mode=related&search=

Fantastic work Sound, fantastic!!!!

This has made my day, Lets see what those Keaneite cunts have to say about this, LETS SEE THEM DEFEND THIS, IN FACT THIS DESERVES A THREAD OF ITS OWN

ROY KEANE IS A MAN OF HIS WORD

[Lamps]

Keane launches attack on 'conmen'
Former Manchester United star Roy Keane has claimed the Premiership is full of players who are trying to cheat by diving and conning the referee. Keane, now boss of Sunderland, said: "I see lads I've played with dive, and going down like they've been shot. It drives me crazy. "I'm glad I'm not playing in the Premiership anymore. "Trying to get another player sent off is cheating. And a lot of players are trying to put one over on the referee."
The 35-year-old former United skipper has had his fair share of scrapes with referees. But he insists the situation is now out of control - and feels the officials have a very difficult job.
He added: "I'm on my high horse because I went out and kicked a lot of players but I'm on about conning the referee. "Referees need to know the players, there are a lot out there who are trying to pull one over referees by diving and chasing the referee. "There are plenty out there doing that and it must be hard for the referee. Players have got to look to treat the referees fairly." Keane also believes that managers - as well as players - have a responsibility to stamp out the diving. He said: "I'm trying to do that with my players."

Ahem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs&mode=related&search=



I salute you sir.

[KolaKubes]

Keane launches attack on 'conmen'

Ahem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs&mode=related&search=

Roy Roy Roy. [shakes head]

Albeit (in a way) a very Ferguson-esque comment! :D

[a serious hypocrite is our Saffy]

[POL]

I salute you sir.I think its time we nearly compiled a thread containing a dossier on Keane's activities, I had a good bit saved on the hard drive of the times he lined out for Utd a few days after claiming he was injured for Ireland, at least 6 instances, but I can't find it, I'll have to research it again

[STEVIEG]

What did he say that was wrong?

He got wrongly sent off for diving but he was hardly a diver in fairness
I know that wasn't a foul by Henry but it wasn't a dive either

[POL]

You can sense the Keanites on the sports forum groaning as they viewed the video, getting very uncomfortable and hot under the collar when confronted with such damning evidence, aghast they are momentarily stunned as they search and try to find meaning in it all

[EDDIEB]

Keane launches attack on 'conmen'
Former Manchester United star Roy Keane has claimed the Premiership is full of players who are trying to cheat by diving and conning the referee. Keane, now boss of Sunderland, said: "I see lads I've played with dive, and going down like they've been shot. It drives me crazy. "I'm glad I'm not playing in the Premiership anymore. "Trying to get another player sent off is cheating. And a lot of players are trying to put one over on the referee."
The 35-year-old former United skipper has had his fair share of scrapes with referees. But he insists the situation is now out of control - and feels the officials have a very difficult job.
He added: "I'm on my high horse because I went out and kicked a lot of players but I'm on about conning the referee. "Referees need to know the players, there are a lot out there who are trying to pull one over referees by diving and chasing the referee. "There are plenty out there doing that and it must be hard for the referee. Players have got to look to treat the referees fairly." Keane also believes that managers - as well as players - have a responsibility to stamp out the diving. He said: "I'm trying to do that with my players."

Ahem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs&mode=related&search=


He must want Sunderland to stay where they are or try to get relegated again ? or Keane declares war on Jose ?

I doubt if we will yet another premiership primadonna or group of them chasing after the ref or diving this weekend after this statement......

[STEVIEG]

You can sense the Keanites on the sports forum groaning as they viewed the video, getting very uncomfortable and hot under the collar when confronted with such damning evidence, aghast they are momentarily stunned as they search and try to find meaning in it all

No, i disagree with him a lot and have said it here recently a lot
But here, he has said nothing out of order
And i'm not a "Keanite" or whatever that may be

[Killyoursons]

Fantastic work Sound, fantastic!!!!

This has made my day, Lets see what those Keaneite cunts have to say about this, LETS SEE THEM DEFEND THIS, IN FACT THIS DESERVES A THREAD OF ITS OWN

ROY KEANE IS A MAN OF HIS WORD

You have to laugh at the SFI getting a stiffy watching that video.
It was a dive as far as I'm concerned.
Doesn't mean that Keane wasn't a great player, though.

[STEVIEG]

Fair enough
Was Roy Keane a diver is the fundamental question?
I'll be interested to see how many people (besides the obvious) say yes

[POL]

I'm enjoying this, the glossing over of the facts, the mundane excuses, thank you sound.

[BlueSkies]

Keane launches attack on 'conmen'
Former Manchester United star Roy Keane has claimed the Premiership is full of players who are trying to cheat by diving and conning the referee. Keane, now boss of Sunderland, said: "I see lads I've played with dive, and going down like they've been shot. It drives me crazy. "I'm glad I'm not playing in the Premiership anymore. "Trying to get another player sent off is cheating. And a lot of players are trying to put one over on the referee."
The 35-year-old former United skipper has had his fair share of scrapes with referees. But he insists the situation is now out of control - and feels the officials have a very difficult job.
He added: "I'm on my high horse because I went out and kicked a lot of players but I'm on about conning the referee. "Referees need to know the players, there are a lot out there who are trying to pull one over referees by diving and chasing the referee. "There are plenty out there doing that and it must be hard for the referee. Players have got to look to treat the referees fairly." Keane also believes that managers - as well as players - have a responsibility to stamp out the diving. He said: "I'm trying to do that with my players."

Ahem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs&mode=related&search=


That is excellent work Sound. You'll be press-ganged into the SFI yet.

[Killyoursons]

Fair enough
Was Roy Keane a diver is the fundamental question?
I'll be interested to see how many people (besides the obvious) say yes

He didn't do habitually, but he did dive in that video.
His comments yesterday are pretty much on the money, though.

[Sound]

:d

[BlueSkies]

Fair enough
Was Roy Keane a diver is the fundamental question?
I'll be interested to see how many people (besides the obvious) say yes


How many times do you have to dive to be labelled a diver?
Was Diego Maradona a cheat?

[Lamps]

You have to laugh at the SFI getting a stiffy watching that video.
It was a dive as far as I'm concerned.
Doesn't mean that Keane wasn't a great player, though.

Yet again you miss the point. The issue here is Keane's hypocrisy.

[STEVIEG]

How many times do you have to dive to be labelled a diver?
Was Diego Maradona a cheat?


I didn't think it was dive

and BTW

His sendings offs were generally deserved

The stupid stamp on Baia, the Haaland tackle etc
Both very costly for United, one arguably cost them another tilt at the Champions League

Yes he was (Diego)

[Lamps]

He didn't do habitually, but he did dive in that video.


There the worst ones, like Mikey Owen, Rooney and Keane, the ones who usually don't dive and as a result don't have a rep, but at a crucial important time they go for it. Glad Keane was busted. Rooney got away with it on Campbell, i've seen Owen time his dives to perfection too.

[Killyoursons]

Yet again you miss the point. The issue here is Keane's hypocrisy.

The title of the thread is about him 'singlehandedly' carrying Ireland to the 2002 WC. Caught up as you are in the emotion of the moment, you might have missed that.
Maradona a cheat: is this a trick question?

[Lamps]

The title of the thread is about him 'singlehandedly' carrying Ireland to the 2002 WC. Caught up as you are in the emotion of the moment, you might have missed that.
Maradona a cheat: is this a trick question?

The conversation at the moment is about Sounds bit of ace detective work, if you are too slow for this then piss off back to the morons forum. You'd be doing us all a big favour

[Killyoursons]

There the worst ones, like Mikey Owen, Rooney and Keane, the ones who usually don't dive and as a result don't have a rep, but at a crucial important time they go for it. Glad Keane was busted. Rooney got away with it on Campbell, i've seen Owen time his dives to perfection too.

(bangs head against keyboard)

[Killyoursons]

The conversation at the moment is about Sounds bit of ace detective work, if you are too slow for this then piss off back to the morons forum. You'd be doing us all a big favour

I've given my opinion on this bit of 'detective work'. It doesn't alter the fact that Keane was a great player. No missing the point there.

[Sound]

There the worst ones, like Mikey Owen, Rooney and Keane, the ones who usually don't dive and as a result don't have a rep, but at a crucial important time they go for it. Glad Keane was busted. Rooney got away with it on Campbell, i've seen Owen time his dives to perfection too.

In fairness to Owen he is a genius at it. He does his utmost to stay on his feet until it's an absolutely crucial game (Argies in the WC for example) and then puts just enough into it to be a stonewall pen.

[BlueSkies]

I didn't think it was dive

and BTW

His sendings offs were generally deserved

The stupid stamp on Baia, the Haaland tackle etc
Both very costly for United, one arguably cost them another tilt at the Champions League

Yes he was (Diego)


What do you think happened if it wasn't a dive?

[POL]

I've given my opinion on this bit of 'detective work'. It doesn't alter the fact that Keane was a great player. No missing the point there.hearsay

[Lamps]

I've given my opinion on this bit of 'detective work'. It doesn't alter the fact that Keane was a great player. No missing the point there.

We are talking about Keane's hypocrisy, not his merits as a player.
Get with the program lad

[Lamps]

In fairness to Owen he is a genius at it. He does his utmost to stay on his feet until it's an absolutely crucial game (Argies in the WC for example) and then puts just enough into it to be a stonewall pen.

correct

[STEVIEG]

What do you think happened if it wasn't a dive?


They collided awkardly none were at fault

It wasn't a pen and it wasn't a dive

If the ref ain't 100% he should just play on
Fair enough, he thought differently at the time and gave the decision but i thought it was a harsh one
I've seen it from loads of angles then and since and still stand by what i saw

[Killyoursons]

We are talking about Keane's hypocrisy, not his merits as a player.
Get with the program lad

Talking about one hardly excludes talking about the other.
I've already offered my two cents on this. It was a dive; what he said yesterday made perfect sense; oh, and he's a great player.
Anything else?

[POL]

some's blotting their copy book here, and its not even funny

[POL]

Talking about one hardly excludes talking about the other.
I've already offered my two cents on this. It was a dive; what he said yesterday made perfect sense; oh, and he's a great player.
Anything else?a good player, not a great player

[STEVIEG]

Actually did he not get sent off for his reaction (2nd yellow) rather than the supposed dive?

[POL]

Actually did he not get sent off for his reaction (2nd yellow) rather than the supposed dive?

well well well, what have we here? a lad who spends all his time on the sports forum bitching like a little bitch about being bored with Roy Keane debates and here he is stuck in the middle of it again, in full flow, the stench of hypocrisy is nauseating, the duplicity and double standards of the Keanites never ceases to amaze me

[BlueSkies]

Do you know the answer to your question?

[Lamps]

Talking about one hardly excludes talking about the other.
I've already offered my two cents on this. It was a dive; what he said yesterday made perfect sense; oh, and he's a great player.
Anything else?

Spare us

[Lamps]

well well well, what have we here? a lad who spends all his time on the sports forum bitching like a little bitch about being bored with Roy Keane debates and here he is stuck in the middle of it again, in full flow, the stench of hypocrisy is nauseating, the duplicity and double standards of the Keanites never ceases to amaze me

Amazing how he wouldn't answer a simple question on the guy last week. He seems obssessed if you ask me. Unhealthy

[POL]

Spare us
he's on the rails, as a contributor he hasn't got much to offer, he's trying the old subliminal reinforcement method, constantly getting the "great player" line in, who does he think he is dealing with? Prionsias is it?

[POL]

Amazing how he wouldn't answer a simple question on the guy last week. He seems obssessed if you ask me. Unhealthythis takes the biscuit though, "it wasn't a dive"

[STEVIEG]

well well well, what have we here? a lad who spends all his time on the sports forum bitching like a little bitch about being bored with Roy Keane debates and here he is stuck in the middle of it again, in full flow, the stench of hypocrisy is nauseating, the duplicity and double standards of the Keanites never ceases to amaze me


Answer the question boys?

It's a different debate

Before this morn he was rarely called a diver

[AmadeusDC]

I didn't think it was dive

I can't believe you're saying that Stevie in fairness. You've been rattling the boys for a few weeks now, and badly rattling them at that but this time you may have thrown their struggling asses a bone. Needless to say they'll be all over this one like flies on s*it.

-AmadeusDC-

[BlueSkies]

He's a hypocrite and a diver.

[STEVIEG]

and a diver.

Indicates he's done it more than once (if at all)

I'll await other examples with interest............ ..

You tube is your friend and remember, he has played a lot of matches

[Killyoursons]

He's a hypocrite and a diver.

Maybe. He'd be a hypocrite if he encourages his players to dive or turns a blind eye to it.
But the incident in the video happened several years ago.

[POL]

He's also a cheat.

[STEVIEG]

I can't believe you're saying that Stevie in fairness. You've been rattling the boys for a few weeks now, and badly rattling them at that but this time you may have thrown their struggling asses a bone. Needless to say they'll be all over this one like flies on s*it.

-AmadeusDC-


I gave my reasons

I think even Ellerary (Sp), never his biggest fan, sent him off for more his reaction than anything else
I also stated quite catergorically that he was stupid many times in red

[Lamps]

I can't believe you're saying that Stevie in fairness. You've been rattling the boys for a few weeks now, and badly rattling them at that but this time you may have thrown their struggling asses a bone. Needless to say they'll be all over this one like flies on s*it.

-AmadeusDC-

Are you for real?

I think your hatred of the SFI is blinding you. I saw how you put in a charity hehehe at the "bigger bait" line this week, I knocked that one on the head pretty fast too.

Stevie has been hiding behind the curtains ever since we took over this joint.

[BlueSkies]

Indicates he's done it more than once (if at all)

I'll await other examples with interest............ ..

You tube is your friend and remember, he has played a lot of matches


You need to admit it was a dive before this debate can continue really.

[AmadeusDC]

I gave my reasons

I think even Ellerary (Sp), never his biggest fan, sent him off for more his reaction than anything else
I also stated quite catergorically that he was stupid many times in red

Nah, imo it was a dive and it seems like from where Ellery arrives from he would have had a great angle. Hendry's reaction would have reinforced the belief and the fact that he had booked Le Saux for diving earlier even with Blackburn at home would have guarenteed the decision. A stupid but deserved red card for Roy. Amazing that the guys went all the way back to about 96 to find this though!! They're struggling.

-AmadeusDC-

[MonTheHoops]

It's a dive. Doesn't make him a bad player but does make him eat his words. Over his career could he be labelled a diver? No, certainly not but is he a diver based on that evidence? Absolutely.

[STEVIEG]

You need to admit it was a dive before this debate can continue really.


No i told you what i thought of the decision (in detail)

[AmadeusDC]

Are you for real?

I think your hatred of the SFI is blinding you. I saw how you put in a charity hehehe at the "bigger bait" line this week, I knocked that one on the head pretty fast too.

Stevie has been hiding behind the curtains ever since we took over this joint.

I've no hatred for you guys. The whole thing got boring but hatred is well over the top. I just think it's funny that you guys basked in yer early successes and now are struggling after a respected member of the forum decided to take you on. He's definitely been dominating for a while now. Saying something that's been said a million times before against him only to be backed by two or three others who tow the same line anyway is a piss poor attempt at halting the StevieG steamroller IMHO. -AmadeusDC-

[BlueSkies]

I've no hatred for you guys. The whole thing got boring but hatred is well over the top. I just think it's funny that you guys basked in yer early successes and now are struggling after a respected member of the forum decided to take you on. He's definitely been dominating for a while now. Saying something that's been said a million times before against him only to be backed by two or three others who tow the same line anyway is a piss poor attempt at halting the StevieG steamroller IMHO. -AmadeusDC-


Could we have some examples of this so-called domination?

[STEVIEG]

Amazing that the guys went all the way back to about 96 to find this though!! They're struggling.

-AmadeusDC-


Well it was Sound in fairness, someone who i doubt reckons Keane was a diver
This story broke last night and wasn't psoted
Loads of players and managers call for an end to diving every day

The challenge is on though people
I'll be back in about a half hour and i expect some good evidence of how he was a diver posted in this thread

[POL]

Could we have some examples of this so-called domination?

I wouldn't pay too much attention to this lad, he obviously requires psychiatric assistance

[AmadeusDC]

Well it was Sound in fairness, someone who i doubt reckons Keane was a diver
This story broke last night and wasn't psoted
Loads of players and managers call for an end to diving every day

The challenge is on though people
I'll be back in about a half hour and i expect some good evidence of how he was a diver posted in this thread

That's true I'll admit the mistake on that one. The flys don't have to be responsible for the shit to be all over it though. ;) j/k SFI.
-AmadeusDC-

[Lamps]

I've no hatred for you guys. The whole thing got boring but hatred is well over the top. I just think it's funny that you guys basked in yer early successes and now are struggling after a respected member of the forum decided to take you on. He's definitely been dominating for a while now. Saying something that's been said a million times before against him only to be backed by two or three others who tow the same line anyway is a piss poor attempt at halting the StevieG steamroller IMHO. -AmadeusDC-

Did you miss the turncoat thread?

[POL]

This AmadeusDC character obviously has received a bad beating from the SFI at some stage, and has been waiting to join up with someone. Unilateral declarations of victory are for the likes of Nimic. Its been a long time since I've seen so many sports forum regulars make a show of themselves in a prime time INTERNET slot. The great thing you just have to let them type away, you don't even have to dissect their replies

[Lamps]

This AmadeusDC character obviously has received a bad beating from the SFI at some stage, and has been waiting to join up with someone. Unilateral declarations of victory are for the likes of Nimic. Its been a long time since I've seen so many sports forum regulars make a show of themselves in a prime time INTERNET slot. The great thing you just have to let them type away, you don't even have to dissect their replies

prime time INTERNET slot
i like it. Sound'll be delighted.

I'm also trying out hiding behind the curtains at the moment.

As regards that Amadues lad, i think he tried one of those take back the forums a few weeks back, maybe that's the source of his disgruntled attitude.

When will these fools learn.

[POL]

prime time INTERNET slot
i like it. Sound'll be delighted.

I'm also trying out hiding behind the curtains at the moment.

As regards that Amadues lad, i think he tried one of those take back the forums a few weeks back, maybe that's the source of his disgruntled attitude.

When will these fools learn.

I must say, I like the old "blotting their copybook" one

[AmadeusDC]

This AmadeusDC character obviously has received a bad beating from the SFI at some stage, and has been waiting to join up with someone. Unilateral declarations of victory are for the likes of Nimic. Its been a long time since I've seen so many sports forum regulars make a show of themselves in a prime time INTERNET slot. The great thing you just have to let them type away, you don't even have to dissect their replies

heheheh

Good old Pol................. you got me lad. :D

In fairness I really do believe he's been getting at ye bad for a while now. It's not so much that he's nailed ye with post after post it's just that his defiance has had you guys scurrying and resorting to the same aged tactics to fight back. Now, a solid SFI regroup and counter attack might work. Ye have the sporting knowledge to launch one. No doubt about that. But I'm afraid ye might just stick to the same old Keano/Rugby stuff and be seen as a relic of a by gone era. Stevie’s emergence has parted the dark clouds and shown what the future could be. Only time will tell if the SFI will be consigned to history or if they can re-brand themselves and emerge ready to contribute to this forum and not just keep it laden with the same old shite. I’m off back to ignoring this stuff. I’ve real work to do. -AmadeusDC-

[POL]

heheheh

Good old Pol................. you got me lad. :D

In fairness I really do believe he's been getting at ye bad for a while now. It's not so much that he's nailed ye with post after post it's just that his defiance has had you guys scurrying and resorting to the same aged tactics to fight back. Now, a solid SFI regroup and counter attack might work. Ye have the sporting knowledge to launch one. No doubt about that. But I'm afraid ye might just stick to the same old Keano/Rugby stuff and be seen as a relic of a by gone era. Stevie’s emergence has parted the dark clouds and shown what the future could be. Only time will tell if the SFI will be consigned to history or if they can re-brand themselves and emerge ready to contribute to this forum and not just keep it laden with the same old shite. I’m off back to ignoring this stuff. I’ve real work to do. -AmadeusDC-

http://www.cms.pentalk.org/images/public/stock/vetcall/head%20in%20sand.jpg

[Lamps]

heheheh

Good old Pol................. you got me lad. :D

In fairness I really do believe he's been getting at ye bad for a while now. It's not so much that he's nailed ye with post after post it's just that his defiance has had you guys scurrying and resorting to the same aged tactics to fight back. Now, a solid SFI regroup and counter attack might work. Ye have the sporting knowledge to launch one. No doubt about that. But I'm afraid ye might just stick to the same old Keano/Rugby stuff and be seen as a relic of a by gone era. Stevie’s emergence has parted the dark clouds and shown what the future could be. Only time will tell if the SFI will be consigned to history or if they can re-brand themselves and emerge ready to contribute to this forum and not just keep it laden with the same old shite. I’m off back to ignoring this stuff. I’ve real work to do. -AmadeusDC-

Reality check needed, stat

[POL]

Reality check needed, statmust be on the good stuff

[BlueSkies]

heheheh

Good old Pol................. you got me lad. :D

In fairness I really do believe he's been getting at ye bad for a while now. It's not so much that he's nailed ye with post after post it's just that his defiance has had you guys scurrying and resorting to the same aged tactics to fight back. Now, a solid SFI regroup and counter attack might work. Ye have the sporting knowledge to launch one. No doubt about that. But I'm afraid ye might just stick to the same old Keano/Rugby stuff and be seen as a relic of a by gone era. Stevie’s emergence has parted the dark clouds and shown what the future could be. Only time will tell if the SFI will be consigned to history or if they can re-brand themselves and emerge ready to contribute to this forum and not just keep it laden with the same old shite. I’m off back to ignoring this stuff. I’ve real work to do. -AmadeusDC-

Bertie-esque in its vagueness

[STEVIEG]

The challenge is on though people
I'll be back in about a half hour and i expect some good evidence of how he was a diver posted in this thread


Thank you

[KolaKubes]

Now Lamps and Poll are both, well, polling.

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=12463 88&postcount=153

Sound makes a great observation (I'd forgetten that one!) and ye two boys are trying to get mileage out of it.

Mockery.

Stretching credibility here now lads, keep to the point, is Keane a hypocrite in his comments?

Absolutely.

Once you've established that, you can then go on to speculate as to whether this hypocrisy might extend to other areas and whether his halo is slipping.

Goddamit, do I have to do it for you?!

Useless. :D

[STEVIEG]

Did you miss the turncoat thread?

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showthread.php?t=870 44

to name but one

[STEVIEG]

They collided awkardly none were at fault

It wasn't a pen and it wasn't a dive




What is wrong with this statement Pol?

[Lamps]

Now Lamps and Poll are both, well, polling.

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=12463 88&postcount=153

Sound makes a great observation (I'd forgetten that one!) and ye two boys are trying to get mileage out of it.

Mockery.

Stretching credibility here now lads, keep to the point, is Keane a hypocrite in his comments?

Absolutely.

Once you've established that, you can then go on to speculate as to whether this hypocrisy might extend to other areas and whether his halo is slipping.

Goddamit, do I have to do it for you?!

Useless. :D


Lads this great observation of Sound's was in the Sun right next to his diver article. Its been doing the rounds all morning.

Kola, feel free to go on. We shouldn't have to provide every little bit of entertainment in this place.

[STEVIEG]

[QUOTE=Lamps]the Sun
QUOTE]

heh heh

[KolaKubes]

Lads this great observation of Sound's was in the Sun right next to his diver article. Its been doing the rounds all morning.

Kola, feel free to go on. We shouldn't have to provide every little bit of entertainment in this place.

A classic SFI moment.

Kudos.

Nahbiy, my list of heroes is already cut so short by my cynicism that I'll not be picking holes in our Roy.

[Lamps]

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showthread.php?t=870 44

to name but one

is this meant to be some sort of win for you?

[STEVIEG]

is this meant to be some sort of win for you?

If you and Pol and whoever else claims an "internet victory" we will believe you, don't worry

[Sound]

Lads this great observation of Sound's was in the Sun right next to his diver article. Its been doing the rounds all morning.

Kola, feel free to go on. We shouldn't have to provide every little bit of entertainment in this place.

The S*N?!?

Fuck that.

[KolaKubes]

The S*N?!?

Fuck that.

You're doubly done.

Plagiarising The Sun AND, well,reading the Sun.

[Lamps]

The S*N?!?

Fuck that.

whoah there.

Keane, demi-god, man of his word and icon to Stevie2me, did the interview with them. Probably serialised his book with them too.

Lets get some perspective here

[STEVIEG]

icon to Stevie2me


Cantona yes, Roy is simply Cork's best

[Sound]

You're doubly done.

Plagiarising The Sun AND, well,reading the Sun.

I read the article on t'interweb and thought he had to have dived at some point and, undoubtedly, some anorak would have it.

[STEVIEG]

I read the article on t'interweb and thought he had to have dived at some point and, undoubtedly, some anorak would have it.


I genuinely believe him, Sound is above this sub-tabloid rubbish

[Lamps]

I genuinely believe him, Sound is above this sub-tabloid rubbish

then what do you make of Keane giving the exclusive to the Sun(if this is the case)?

well?

[STEVIEG]

then what do you make of Keane giving the exclusive to the Sun(if this is the case)?

well?

Probably a bad decision (don't know the details)
I wasn't impressed that Rooney talked to them either
I hate the Sun as much as any Liverpool supporter
They are scum of the highest order

[bricktop]

a good player, not a great player
get real

[Coin]

I feel it necessary to point out that Amadeus has absolutely and utterly owned POL and Lamps in this thread. Highly entertaining.

[Lamps]

I feel it necessary to point out that Amadeus has absolutely and utterly owned POL and Lamps in this thread. Highly entertaining.

This is getting stupid now

[POL]

I feel it necessary to point out that Amadeus has absolutely and utterly owned POL and Lamps in this thread. Highly entertaining.

yeah to quote a great man , "it wasn't a pen and it wasn't a dive" :grin:

[STEVIEG]

yeah to quote a great man , "it wasn't a pen and it wasn't a dive" :grin:


It can happen
Players collide all the time
It doesn't have to be a foul (a pen) or a dive (a sending off)

[Coin]

This is getting stupid now
You two can keep on posting inane shite, but it doesn't make you any less owned.

[Sound]

I feel it necessary to point out that Amadeus has absolutely and utterly owned POL and Lamps in this thread. Highly entertaining.

I didn't even think it needed pointing out.

[Lamps]

I didn't even think it needed pointing out.

So Amadues owned the SFI because he repeatedly pointed out something which never happened. Lame and Fitzy should come back at this stage

Let me put it this way, if an SFI member claimed to be going to a game on Saturday that was actually on on Sunday there'd be a free for all in here.

We operate at a higher level and by the looks of it have rattled this board so much that the new tactic is to simply make shit up. I take it as a compliment

[Sound]

So Amadues owned the SFI because he repeatedly pointed out something which never happened. Lame and Fitzy should come back at this stage

Let me put it this way, if an SFI member claimed to be going to a game on Saturday that was actually on on Sunday there'd be a free for all in here.

We operate at a higher level and by the looks of it have rattled this board so much that the new tactic is to simply make shit up. I take it as a compliment

After your own whooshing yesterday and the Donaghy debacle you have lost all authority to make pronouncements. Try to just have a simple day of solid wumming and get yourselves back on track- then we'll review.

[Coin]

So Amadues owned the SFI because he repeatedly pointed out something which never happened. Lame and Fitzy should come back at this stage

Let me put it this way, if an SFI member claimed to be going to a game on Saturday that was actually on on Sunday there'd be a free for all in here.

We operate at a higher level and by the looks of it have rattled this board so much that the new tactic is to simply make shit up. I take it as a compliment
Raising the white flag there Lamps.

[Actin The Sham]

http://www.sandiegoserenade .com/images/waldorf_statler.jpg


The "SFI"


Heh heh heh......
:)

[Lamps]

After your own whooshing yesterday and the Donaghy debacle you have lost all authority to make pronouncements. Try to just have a simple day of solid wumming and get yourselves back on track- then we'll review.

Missing a whoosh and not knowing what day the game your are going to is on?

Hmmm. I'll take the whoosh if given the choice

My record is phenomenal and well you know it

[Lamps]

Raising the white flag there Lamps.

I think after the beating I gave you on here yesterday then you are in no position to talk about white flags.

[Sound]

Missing a whoosh and not knowing what day the game your are going to is on?

Hmmm. I'll take the whoosh if given the choice

My record is phenomenal and well you know it

Now this is exactly what you dont want to be doing. Just some no-nonsense, uncomplicated wumming is what is needed at this juncture. Trying something this complex with your betters will set you back even further.

[Lamps]

Now this is exactly what you dont want to be doing. Just some no-nonsense, uncomplicated wumming is what is needed at this juncture. Trying something this complex with your betters will set you back even further.

Fooling no-one.

You been exposed on the boxing punch power thing, Cannavaro, what day the game you are going to is on and got a pasting by the SFI in one of Roy Keane pieces. In short,you've had a lame time of it. If you were still in the SFI, we have kicked you out after a week like that.

[POL]

Raising the white flag there Lamps.saying it again won't make it true, someone's been caught with their trousers down

[Sound]

Fooling no-one.

You been exposed on the boxing punch power thing, Cannavaro, what day the game you are going to is on and got a pasting by the SFI in one of Roy Keane pieces. In short,you've had a lame time of it. If you were still in the SFI, we have kicked you out after a week like that.

Me hole.

Especially on the punch power thing.

[Sound]

saying it again won't make it true, someone's been caught with their trousers down

That's more like it.

[Lamps]

Me hole.

Especially on the punch power thing.

The lad who claims otherwise is an international fighter, I'll take his word for it if you don't mind.

Even Kola went against you on the Cannavaro farce.

And the classic jock behaviour of not knowing when the game was on was frankly a big surprise.

[Sound]

The lad who claims otherwise is an international fighter, I'll take his word for it if you don't mind.

Even Kola went against you on the Cannavaro farce.

And the classic jock behaviour of not knowing when the game was on was frankly a big surprise.

An international fighter eh? Did he tell you that?

As for the Juve thing, I stand by it 100% and what KK thinks about it is immaterial.

'Twas a slip but I'm man enough to admit my mistakes.

[STEVIEG]

Deflecting attention away from yet another loss


Priceless

[Lamps]

Deflecting attention away from yet another loss


Priceless

You blotted the copybook big time yesterday the one time you ventured out from behind the curtains. I'm surprised you're still here

[POL]

Deflecting attention away from yet another loss


Priceless

This is embarrassing
http://www.fanforhire.com/images/comical_ali.jpg


Your buffoon's (coin) seal of approval serves as the death knell to even the most flimsy of arguments. I, for one, hope that you regret it to the extent you feel compelled to delete your own post.

[STEVIEG]

You blotted the copybook big time yesterday the one time you ventured out from behind the curtains. I'm surprised you're still here


Yawn yawn yawn


SFI classics from recently

Feel free to add


1-Internet football game is for gays (talking about fake internet victories is not though????)

2-Lamps----Leave your stupid Frisbee thread to the Langers forum (but i'll start one on Glenda Gilsen nonetheless)

3-Re Jungles which sport do you play---Pol---these aren't real sports at all (but a sport where a 9 stone man rides a horse is more superior???)


I could go on and on and on
It's over
You've lost
Now take what's left of your dignity and go:)

[Coin]

I think after the beating I gave you on here yesterday then you are in no position to talk about white flags.
The sum total of what you said to me yesterday:
This is getting stupid now
Man that really was a beating. I consider myself well and truly beaten.

[STEVIEG]

SFI member minute ago

http://i15.tinypic.com/4icpcwn.jpg

[POL]

Yawn yawn yawn


SFI classics from recently

Feel free to add


1-Internet football game is for gays (talking about fake internet victories is not though????)

2-Lamps----Leave your stupid Frisbee thread to the Langers forum (but i'll start one on Glenda Gilsen nonetheless)

3-Re Jungles which sport do you play---Pol---these aren't real sports at all (but a sport where a 9 stone man rides a horse is more superior???)


I could go on and on and on
It's over
You've lost
Now take what's left of your dignity and go:)

where's your fucking pride? someone is falling apart at the seams, they last few months of INTERNET beatings have obviously taken their toll, the quality and quantity of your posts have taken a nosedive

[STEVIEG]

where's your fucking pride? someone is falling apart at the seams, they last few months of INTERNET beatings have obviously taken their toll, the quality and quantity of your posts have taken a nosedive


the ultimate contradiction is right here
http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showthread.php?t=874 80

[Lamps]

The sum total of what you said to me yesterday:

Man that really was a beating. I consider myself well and truly beaten.

If I was Sound, I'd do a whoosh right about now

[Coin]

If I was Sound, I'd do a whoosh right about now
A sure sign of a man on the run. Don't forget, you're nowhere near his level. The Keane diving thing was a glorious opportunity for you to make hay, and you needed Sound to come in and deliver it. If that isn't him owning you, giving you a beating at your own game, I don't know what is.

[Lamps]

A sure sign of a man on the run. Don't forget, you're nowhere near his level. The Keane diving thing was a glorious opportunity for you to make hay, and you needed Sound to come in and deliver it. If that isn't him owning you, giving you a beating at your own game, I don't know what is.

It was in the Sun that morning.

I've beaten you out the gate at this stage

[POL]

oh god! did I see that right? did Stevie try the old "my sport is better than your sport" line?

[Coin]

saying it again won't make it true, someone's been caught with their trousers down
I'll make some allowances for you for a day or two, you're probably fairly rattled by the loss of one of your sporting heroes.

[POL]

I'll make some allowances for you for a day or two, you're probably fairly rattled by the loss of one of your sporting heroes.Actually, I think Stevie has been very successfully trolling the board with this Keane stance. And numpties like you are lapping it up with a veritable orgy of smug self-righteousness.

[Coin]

It was in the Sun that morning.

I've beaten you out the gate at this stage
It was Sound that delivered it here. A proper follower of sporting truth such as you claim yourself to be would have struck.

Take your beating and move on.

[Coin]

Actually, I think Stevie has been very successfully trolling the board with this Keane stance. And numpties like you are lapping it up with a veritable orgy of smug self-righteousness.
Elaborate for me on what you believe this "Keane stance" to be, and I'll tell you whether I'm lapping it up or not.

I'll give you a hint. My personal opinion is that that was a dive in that video clip.

[STEVIEG]

Actually, I think Stevie has been very successfully trolling the board with this Keane stance. And numpties like you are lapping it up with a veritable orgy of smug self-righteousness.


Coin and myself totally disagree on the Keane incident

I was the one who said i didn't think he dived

A lot of us disagree on different issues, such is life
But a lot of people can see it's pretty obvious you guys are wrong as much as you are right
Take your beating and move on

[Lamps]

It was Sound that delivered it here. A proper follower of sporting truth such as you claim yourself to be would have struck.

Take your beating and move on.

Is this langer for real.

Can you please explain the logic behind this?

Well?

[STEVIEG]

Is this langer for real.

Can you please explain the logic behind this?

Well?


It's simple

The two of you have ben obsessed by our best football player for years and years and the one time it looks like he has said something that most people disagree with, it was others, not you, who brought it up

intelligensia??????

[Coin]

Is this langer for real.

Can you please explain the logic behind this?

Well?
I honestly can't believe, after repeatedly having your ass handed to you in this thread, that you're still here. Go for lunch or something, collect your thoughts and you might be ok for the afternoon.

[STEVIEG]

oh god! did I see that right? did Stevie try the old "my sport is better than your sport" line?


Read it and weep

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=12469 74&postcount=11

[POL]

The Sports forum is rattled all right, some lads have been caught with their trousers down around their ankles, The SFI have shaken the sports forum to its very foundations, Stevie and Coin are in a state of bewilderment, shell shocked as it were..

[POL]

Great thread
Just what we needwell over 21 pages later and stevie "i'm sick of roy keane debates" must be feeling very foolish indeed. doh!

[KolaKubes]

The Sports forum is rattled all right, some lads have been caught with their trousers down around their ankles, The SFI have shaken the sports forum to its very foundations, Stevie and Coin are in a state of bewilderment, shell shocked as it were..

You're the extremist wing of the extremist wing of the PROC.

http://static.flickr.com/29/100276794_548c83c4eb _m.jpg

I'm eagerly anticipating the long-awaited SFI schism.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_shawshank_redemp tion/_group_photos/brian_libby4.jpg

The Sports Forum looked on as Lamps sounded out a replacement bitch for POL.... ;D

[STEVIEG]

well over 21 pages later and stevie "i'm sick of roy keane debates" must be feeling very foolish indeed. doh!


totally different debate

Sick of Saipan, but enjoying ye being shown up

Throw out the "rattled" line as much as you want
It's all here in black and white and the people aren't stupid

[POL]

totally different debate

Sick of Saipan, but enjoying ye being shown up

Throw out the "rattled" line as much as you want
It's all here in black and white and the people aren't stupid

hehe the only person making a fool of themselves is you stevie

[STEVIEG]

hehe the only person making a fool of themselves is you stevie


You keep telling yourself that and will most likely form the element of "Truth" in your mind........

[POL]

Keane has been shown up to a liar, a cheat and a hypocrite in this thread, any other suggestion by the Keanite is a simple attempt to muddy the waters and will not be tolerated.

[homer jay]

Keane has been shown up to a liar, a cheat and a hypocrite in this thread, any other suggestion by the Keanite is a simple attempt to muddy the waters and will not be tolerated.

and it starts all over again.


any takers???


anyone????

[Langer Dan]

and it starts all over again.


any takers???


anyone????

Liverpool

Prem: 2nd
F.A. cup: semi finals
league cup: winner
champions league: semi finals

prem is the priority. still lacking up front and out right, but nobody will catch chelsea imo
heh heh heh.

Moron.

[STEVIEG]

Jesus please no

[homer jay]

heh heh heh.

Moron.

cheers for that fitzy. you still manage to pull it out of the bag. :roll:

[Lamps]

I honestly can't believe, after repeatedly having your ass handed to you in this thread, that you're still here. Go for lunch or something, collect your thoughts and you might be ok for the afternoon.

answer the question, new rules

[Langer Dan]

cheers for that fitzy. you still manage to pull it out of the bag. :roll:

Yawn, throwing yer bag in with LAMPOL, You're a sad case:lol!:

[STEVIEG]

What in the world does Liverpool and United have to do with this thread?

[POL]

and it starts all over again.


any takers???


anyone????

These are the Central core issues. Nothing More, nothing less, stevie unsuccessfully tried to turn it into a battle of semantics, and got nowhere fast except a highly embarrassing string of victory declarations and in the process losing a lot of credibility that he had worked so hard to build up, now we have this unedifying carry on out of him, most un sports forum like behaviour from someone who should know much better, a sad couple of days towards the end of his sports forum career

[STEVIEG]

These are the Central core issues. Nothing More, nothing less, stevie unsuccessfully tried to turn it into a battle of semantics, and got nowhere fast except a highly embarrassing string of victory declarations and in the process losing a lot of credibility that he had worked so hard to build up, now we have this unedifying carry on out of him, most un sports forum like behaviour from someone who should know much better, a sad couple of days towards the end of his sports forum career


LMFAO

[Langer Dan]

What in the world does Liverpool and United have to do with this thread?

Im just showing the pitiful state of that dumbass' knowledge of football.

this is the standard of the guys that suck upto LAMPOL.

[homer jay]

Yawn, throwing yer bag in with LAMPOL, You're a sad case:lol!:

au contraire, just goes to show you know nothing.

[Langer Dan]

au contraire, just goes to show you know nothing.

That makes no sense, on any level.

you sir are a moron.
Now go play with a squeezy toy.

[homer jay]

These are the Central core issues. Nothing More, nothing less, stevie unsuccessfully tried to turn it into a battle of semantics, and got nowhere fast except a highly embarrassing string of victory declarations and in the process losing a lot of credibility that he had worked so hard to build up, now we have this unedifying carry on out of him, most un sports forum like behaviour from someone who should know much better, a sad couple of days towards the end of his sports forum career

heh heh heh :D

[STEVIEG]

heh heh heh :D


?????

[homer jay]

Im just showing the pitiful state of that dumbass' knowledge of football.

this is the standard of the guys that suck upto LAMPOL.

it didn't take you long to lower yourself to calling people names. outstanding argumentation there lad.

the headlines today:
internet forum poster homer jay's league predictions seem not to be coming to fruition. shock horror.

[Langer Dan]

it didn't take you long to lower yourself to calling people names. outstanding argumentation there lad.

the headlines today:
internet forum poster homer jay's league predictions seem not to be coming to fruition. shock horror.

in other news.

Imbecile with no knowledge of football fails to recognise the realities of his clubs situation.

Go away and kiss LAMPOL'S ass, You are a joke:lol!:

[homer jay]

?????

same as yourself stevie, laughing at it

[POL]

WOW, this thread has it all now, Fitzy has entered the fray with mindless abuse, unmissable prime time INTERNET action, the morons forum can only dream of action like this

[homer jay]

in other news.

Imbecile with no knowledge of football fails to recognise the realities of his clubs situation.

Go away and kiss LAMPOL'S ass, You are a joke:lol!:

a joke? in your eyes? now that's fucking funny.

the irony, the irony...

[homer jay]

WOW, this thread has it all now, Fitzy has entered the fray with mindless abuse, unmissable prime time INTERNET action, the morons forum can only dream of action like this

shush, you'll scare him off.

[Coin]

answer the question, new rules
Lamps, this isn't liam2me you're dealing with here, I've a few more years on the clock than he does.

[Lamps]

Lamps, this isn't liam2me you're dealing with here, I've a few more years on the clock than he does.

Is being better than Lame something to brag about now.

Standards are on the floor

[POL]

so can Keane claim all the glory for where Sunderland find themselves?

[KD Langer]

anyone who thinks that ireland would have qualified for 2002 without roy keane would want to lay off the magic mushrooms. FACT.

[STEVIEG]

the 2002 World Cup was great for piss ups and sing-songs i'd say

The team deserved the heroes welcome in Phoenix Park after beating Saudi Arabia (or whoever it was)

[Edmund Blackwater]

the 2002 World Cup was great for piss ups and sing-songs i'd say)
Do you think Keane and Dunphy wrote the last chapter in the pub then?

[KD Langer]

D amien D uff Diziness.:lol!::lol! ::lol!:

[STEVIEG]

Do you think Keane and Dunphy wrote the last chapter in the pub then?

Keanes drinking days were long gone by them i'd wager

[Limerick Sham]

What a success the 2002 world cup was we drew with the overhyped Cameroon, Drew with probably the worst German team ever that still managed to get to the final albeit with help from a piss easy draw, we beat the mighty Saudi Arabia and went out on penaltys to Spain who up until euro 2008 wer notorious bottlers.
Still twas a great pissup for some i suppose.

[Edmund Blackwater]

What a success the 2002 world cup was we drew with the overhyped Cameroon, Drew with probably the worst German team ever that still managed to get to the final albeit with help from a piss easy draw, we beat the mighty Saudi Arabia and went out on penaltys to Spain who up until euro 2008 wer notorious bottlers.
Still twas a great pissup for some i suppose.
That was the worst german team ever that made the final, yeah? help me out here, my memory is a bit sketchy. And we dominated them in the second half of a terrible game of football. I suppose with keane's songle handed ability to beat every man on the pitch, we could have won that one.

[ho chi feen]

That was the worst german team ever that made the final, yeah? help me out here, my memory is a bit sketchy. And we dominated them in the second half of a terrible game of football. I suppose with keane's songle handed ability to beat every man on the pitch, we could have won that one.

That German team were fairly rubbish, most Germans would agree. They had an easy run of it 2002 with the draw... USA, South Korea, etc. I'd take their one point haul at Euro 2000 (where they were whipped 3-0 by Portugals reserves) and Euro 2004 (beaten with ease by a Czech republic second string) as a better indication of their level.

[Limerick Sham]

That was the worst german team ever that made the final, yeah? help me out here, my memory is a bit sketchy. And we dominated them in the second half of a terrible game of football. I suppose with keane's songle handed ability to beat every man on the pitch, we could have won that one.

That was a terrible German team that wer there for the taking! it only took a goal in injury time to rescue a point, of course we missed roys leadership that day and in that whole tournament your living in denial if you think otherwise.

[Edmund Blackwater]

That German team were fairly rubbish, most Germans would agree. They had an easy run of it 2002 with the draw... USA, South Korea, etc. I'd take their one point haul at Euro 2000 (where they were whipped 3-0 by Portugals reserves) and Euro 2004 (beaten with ease by a Czech republic second string) as a better indication of their level.
So you'll take matches from other tournaments as a better indication of their level than the tournament we are talking about?
Get up the yard.

[Edmund Blackwater]

That was a terrible German team that wer there for the taking! it only took a goal in injury time to rescue a point, of course we missed roys leadership that day and in that whole tournament your living in denial if you think otherwise.
We were missing a Colin Healy type.
Why wasn;t he there?

[Limerick Sham]

Carsten Jancker says it all about that german team in 2002!

[STEVIEG]

So you'll take matches from other tournaments as a better indication of their level than the tournament we are talking about?
Get up the yard.

That German team were there for the taking we should have won the World Cup
You knew it, I knew it, Kleberson knew it, Ballack knew it, Totti knew it and Roy knew it

I have no axe to grind:)

[Edmund Blackwater]

That German team were there for the taking we should have won the World Cup
You knew it, I knew it, Kleberson knew it, Ballack knew it, Totti knew it and Roy knew it

I have no axe to grind:)
Didn't you say you stopped watching international football when keane walked out?

[ho chi feen]

So you'll take matches from other tournaments as a better indication of their level than the tournament we are talking about?
Get up the yard.

Listen Ed, I have no axe to grind. I'm only pulling you up on your claim that wasn't a desperately poor German side. It was. Widely accepted to be the worst German team since the second world war- by Germans, and by many seasoned football-watchers. The view from Germany was that their football was in crisis. Let's not let a fluked run to the final of a crazy World Cup gloss over that (they didn't).

These are the facts.

Personally, my memory only stretches back the 1980s. I have never seen a worse Germany side. Looking back on the players they had in the 1960s and 70s, I don't think then 2002 was anywhere close to that level. I'd be les sure about the 1950s, though most people know their 1954 win was a major shock.

Worst German team since at least the 1950s, by the looks of things then.

[STEVIEG]

Didn't you say you stopped watching international football when keane walked out?

I watch it all the time i stopped caring as much for the national team for a few years and still don't get as excited by it as i do supporting United or Cork City but the FAI have admitted a few mistakes now and i'm behind Trap and co

International football is not as good as club football though, though Euro 2008 was a step in the right direction

[KD Langer]

We were missing a Colin Healy type.
Why wasn;t he there?

he would have made all the difference ..........

[Edmund Blackwater]

I didn't say they were amazing, but they certainly weren't poor.
A relatively poor German side is still better than a great ireland side 95% of the time.
We didn't have a great side, yet managed to overpower them in the 2nd half while going in search of an equaliser/ that was without the 'mayfield maradona' who guaranteed us 3 goals a game.
Germany got to the final.

(The German team in 94-98 were the worst in my time watching football)

[STEVIEG]

We were missing a Colin Healy type.
Why wasn;t he there?

Didn't even make Mick's squad as far as i know

[Edmund Blackwater]

Didn't even make Mick's squad as far as i know
He was at the airport...

[STEVIEG]

He was at the airport...

When the squad was named he was probably planning a summer holiday

[ho chi feen]

I didn't say they were amazing, but they certainly weren't poor.
A relatively poor German side is still better than a great ireland side 95% of the time.
We didn't have a great side, yet managed to overpower them in the 2nd half while going in search of an equaliser/ that was without the 'mayfield maradona' who guaranteed us 3 goals a game.
Germany got to the final.

(The German team in 94-98 were the worst in my time watching football)

Kinsmann, Bierhoff >>>> Klose, Jancker
Effenberg >>>> Jens Jeremies
Sammer, Kohler >>>> Nowotny, Metzelder
Andy Moeller >>>>>>>>> Schneider

Just off the top of my head.

Kahn and Ballack were very good though.

[KD Langer]

Kinsmann, Bierhoff >>>> Klose, Jancker
Effenberg >>>> Jens Jeremies
Sammer, Kohler >>>> Nowotny, Metzelder
Andy Moeller >>>>>>>>> Schneider

Just off the top of my head.

Kahn and Ballack were very good though.

poor edmund. pwned again.......

[ho chi feen]

Forgot the legend that was Lothar Matthaus on that list...

[Edmund Blackwater]

Kinsmann, Bierhoff >>>> Klose, Jancker
Effenberg >>>> Jens Jeremies
Sammer, Kohler >>>> Nowotny, Metzelder
Andy Moeller >>>>>>>>> Schneider

Just off the top of my head.

Kahn and Ballack were very good though.
Team, not individuals.

[STEVIEG]

I'm a bit with Edmund on this

They played like a team in the weak ass competition that was 2002

In 98 they were a bit of a sham



Back to the point though

even in 2002 they were there for the taking and very lucky to scrape a result against a similarly average Irish side

[ho chi feen]

Team, not individuals.

A much better team too, same guys who were a top side in 1992, they were still an excellent team in 1994 (with some very good additions like Sammer), they were deserving winners in Euro 96, over the hill in 1998 though.

The 1998 team was still better than the 2000 - 2004 mark, where the quality of up and coming talent in Germany was poor.

[Edmund Blackwater]

A much better team too, same guys who were a top side in 1992, they were still an excellent team in 1994 (with some very good additions like Sammer), they were deserving winners in Euro 96, over the hill in 1998 though.

The 1998 team was still better than the 2000 - 2004 mark, where the quality of up and coming talent in Germany was poor.
I invoke the 'they were no good in that tournament because they were shit in the two that surrounded' card.

(They weren't that good in 96 imo, certainly not the best team there)

[STEVIEG]

I invoke the 'they were no good in that tournament because they were shit in the two that surrounded' card.

(They weren't that good in 96 imo, certainly not the best team there)


Who was better

Engerlund?

that German team was good

[Edmund Blackwater]

Who was better

Engerlund?

that German team was good
I know that was a jibe, but yes, I would say that England were a betterteam at that tournament, as were the Croatians and the Checkers imo.