Spurs in the uefa cup

[legend76]

Spurs begin their UEFA Cup group stage programme with a trip to Istanbul to take on Besiktas on October 19.

They have also been drawn alongside Bayer Leverkusen, Club Brugge and Dinamo Bucharest in Group B of the competition.

After Besiktas they face Club Brugge at the Lane on November 2 before travelling to Bayer Leverkusen on November 23. Spurs complete the group with a home tie against Dinamo Bucuresti on December 14.

Thursday 19 October - Besiktas (Turkey) (A)
Thursday 2 November - Club Brugge (Belgium) (H)
Thursday 23 November - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Germany) (A)
Thursday 14 December - Dinamo Bucuresti (Romania) (H)

There were eight groups of five clubs drawn and the top three will progress to the round of 32 after the teams have played each other once. The successful teams will be joined in the knock out stages by the eight third place teams from the Champions League.

[legend76]

Any predictions for tomorrow night?? it's gonna be a tough test for a side that's yet to really fire this season.

Here's what ex-spurs player and former Blue peter garden vandal Les Ferdinand had to say about the turkish side who he spent a loan spell with.

* he fails to mention how on his debut they sacrificed a lamb and painted it's blood on his boots

"Besiktas was great for me," he reflected this week. "It was my first loan to another professional club and first real taste of senior football. Gordon Milne took me over there and as the only English player, they really looked after me.

"It was a step into the unknown for me - my only knowledge of Turkey was from the film Midnight Express!
"I hadn't really played in front of any crowds either - apart from the FA Vase Final at Wembley - as I'd come up through non-league and I'd been playing reserve football at QPR.

"All of a sudden I'm at Besiktas and there were 30,000 in the stadium for my first training session! There was so much interest in English football then. I just remember thinking to myself 'do these people know I've only been playing in the reserves?' but it was something to behold.

"I wouldn't go as far as saying it was make or break for me out there but it was because I did so well out there that I was able to come back to England and push on. It was an experience I wouldn't change for anything and one that was very important in the context of my career as a whole."

"I can tell everyone at Spurs that they will be stepping into an incredible atmosphere," he said. "There wasn't as much European football when I was there but when any English teams came over to Istanbul it was massive for the team involved and all the supporters from the other teams would go along as well. It was like a World Cup game.

"It's an unbelievable atmosphere and one every professional footballer should relish. It will certainly be a great experience for the younger lads at Spurs and this is what getting into Europe is all about - you want these tests."

[Philby]

I think Spurs will struggle in this tie (likely to be a very volatile atmosphere) and perhaps in this group as a whole. The experience will be invaluable for them though.

[STEVIEG]

They've been doing okay in Europe and have the ability to win the group-tough game buy very winnable

[Philby]

Just re-read the first post and saw that the top 3 from each group go through. Would think they'd definitely finish in the top 3 but won't top this group imho. Getting Ledley King fully fit & in form is key to their progression in this competition.

[legend76]

Just re-read the first post and saw that the top 3 from each group go through. Would think they'd definitely finish in the top 3 but won't top this group imho. Getting Ledley King fully fit & in form is key to their progression in this competition.

Spurs look incredibly shaky at the back when Ledley is out, Davenport and Garderner just can't fill his shoes.

[afeencalleddan]

Spurs look incredibly shaky at the back when Ledley is out, Davenport and Garderner just can't fill his shoes.I'm catching a flight to Istanbul in the morning. Marty's looking for centre backs seeing as Daws and Davenport are out. Just hope the fact that I'm 5'6" doesn't work against me too much.

Seriously though, I'm not sure how well Spurs will do. I'm not totally convinced they'll finish top 3. The two seemingly more difficult games are away. I would have preferred it the other way around.

[legend76]

I'm not totally convinced they'll finish top 3. The two seemingly more difficult games are away. I would have preferred it the other way around.


away in turkey and away in Germany is a tough break, but if Spurs really are gonna hack it in europe, they have to prove their potential by picking up points in ties like these

[legend76]

Steed Malbranque is well qualified to assess the challenge likely to be faced by Spurs in Istanbul tonight.
Their opening UEFA Cup group stage opponents are managed by his countryman and former boss at Fulham, Jean Tigana.
Besiktas have enjoyed a decent start to their domestic Super League season, sitting third in the standings with five wins from 9 games (one draw) and Steed believes the footballing philosophy of the French international great should ensure an encounter which is pleasing on the eye.
"Jean Tigana likes his teams to play good football and nearly always on the ground - he doesn't like his teams playing the ball in the air," said the player who arrived in England from Lyon in 2001.
"He wants a lot of movement from his players, pass and move is his style of coaching. The goalkeeper rarely kicks long as Jean likes his keepers to roll the ball to the defenders and for the team to build up from the back.
"He was a top player and is a great manager as well - a very intelligent man who loves good football. Of course I would like to be playing in this game and it is a disappointment not to be, but hopefully I will get to play in the next European game."

[afeencalleddan]

'tis just a pity Malbranque isn't available to play at the moment.

[legend76]

Martin Jol: "Hopefully Ledley will be fine, he had a problem with his knee, but he is a tough lad and this is an important one for us. We are playing on Sunday too so we have to make choices and it is the same with Hossam .

He will be a late decision, but he has tried hard because they all want to come with us to Istanbul. Teemu is still out, while Jermain had a little problem with his foot on Tuesday but is here with us. Mido has a thigh problem and did not make the trip.

Everybody else looks fine in midfield and I will have to make a decision on Michael Dawson, whether to spare him until Sunday. Calum broke his nose but he is a strong boy.

I have got a few choices to make and hopefully I will make the right ones."

[afeencalleddan]

0-1 Hossam Ghaly. Keep it up lads!

[afeencalleddan]

0-2 Berbatov. Lovely.

[AmadeusDC]

My guys won away as well. 2:1 Bentley right at the end!!!

-AmadeusDC-

[RedCityKid]

What a super finish by berbatov. First glimpse of why spurs paud £10m for him. Huddlestone immense in midfield.

[afeencalleddan]

What a super finish by berbatov. First glimpse of why spurs paud £10m for him. Huddlestone immense in midfield.Hopefully Huddlestone will turn out to be better than Carrick.

[RedCityKid]

Huddlestone is a different type of player really. Hes more a physical presence who covers a lot of ground and does the simple things right. Wouldnt have MC's vision or creativity imho. But hes an excellent player from what Ive seen and apparently can slot in centre back also if needed. Dont know if Huddlestone and Zokora could play together but would like to see them get a chance together as it would really allow Lennon and Malbranque get forward on either side of them.

[afeencalleddan]

Huddlestone is a different type of player really. Hes more a physical presence who covers a lot of ground and does the simple things right. Wouldnt have MC's vision or creativity imho. But hes an excellent player from what Ive seen and apparently can slot in centre back also if needed. Dont know if Huddlestone and Zokora could play together but would like to see them get a chance together as it would really allow Lennon and Malbranque get forward on either side of them.They're supposed to be two of his best attributes. He could definitely play with Zokora. I'd like to see Zokora given more freedom. He could cause teams a lot of problems if let off the leish. Aaron Lennon gets a run. Looks like it could be the perfect evening barring Murphy's injury.

[RedCityKid]

Gotta be impressed by the Besiktas fans though. Great atmosphere even when 2-0 down

[RedCityKid]

Dont get me wrong I think hes excellent player Im just saying that when Carrick was here everything went through him thats not going to be the case with TH i think but Ive been wrong before....

[afeencalleddan]

Gotta be impressed by the Besiktas fans though. Great atmosphere even when 2-0 downYeah, I was scoffing at them when they went quiet for a couple of minutes after Ghaly's goal but they've been amazing.

[RedCityKid]

Hopefully we can push from this and take 6 points from West Ham(h) and Watford(a) kick start or season

[afeencalleddan]

Dont get me wrong I think hes excellent player Im just saying that when Carrick was here everything went through him thats not going to be the case with TH i think but Ive been wrong before....I dunno. I understood that he was being groomed to be a deep lying playmaker who could do a bit of everything which is why I think he could end up being better than Carrick.

[afeencalleddan]

Hopefully we can push from this and take 6 points from West Ham(h) and Watford(a) kick start or seasonI just hope they don't suffer that horrible European hangover on sunday that affects so many teams.

[RedCityKid]

I think if I had a choice between the two I wouldnt swap with Man Utd. Great result tonight should be plain sailing through group methinks.

[AmadeusDC]

Hopefully we can push from this and take 6 points from West Ham(h) and Watford(a) kick start or season

Jesus, surely they have to be taking the full 6 points from games like this if they want to maintain last years progress this season!

-AmadeusDC-

[legend76]

TURKISH DELIGHT

Martin Jol was a happy man after Spurs opened up the group stage of the UEFA Cup with a convincing victory over Besiktas in Istanbul on Thursday night.

The dominant force from start to finish, a goal in each half from Hossam Ghaly and Dimitar Berbatov secured a deserved win

"We are very satisfied with the three points," declared Martin. "It was a great experience for us with such a fanatical crowd. We said beforehand that we had to enjoy it, that was the main thing, to get a result and fight for every yard.

"We started off well, controlled the first half - that is always important - but we couldn't score more than one goal and that is always difficult against someone like Besiktas.

"Dimitar Berbatov then showed his extra quality, we scored the second goal at the right moment and then had three or four chances after that.

"Don't forget that we had to re-organise in midfield because we lost Didier Zokora late with a fever, but Tom Huddlestone came in and had a very good game together with Jermaine Jenas.

"I thought Hossam Ghaly was excellent in the first half, the defence was excellent and we were too strong to concede goals. I was happy with the team performance.

"If you go into Europe you would always say that a draw is a satisfactory result, Turkey is a strong league, the crowd was second to none - taking all that into account, we kept our heads cool and motivated to have a very good result."

[legend76]

What a super finish by berbatov. First glimpse of why spurs paud £10m for him. Huddlestone immense in midfield.


Thought Huddlestone really came of age last night. Martin Jol has always been speaking very highly of him ever since he arrived from Derby. That was Berbatov's real 'debut' for Spurs. he was on a different level last night. super pass for Gahly's goal, and he took his own with sublime aplomb!!

couldn't get over the turkish fans, Two nil down only minutes remaining and the whole stand is doing a pogo!!! Psychos!!! what would they have been like if they actually won?

[Philby]

I think Spurs will struggle in this tie (likely to be a very volatile atmosphere) and perhaps in this group as a whole. The experience will be invaluable for them though.

Shows how much I know. I watched this in patches but it fair to say that Spurs looked fairly comfortable once they get their noses in front and can feel very pleased with themselves to go to such an intimidating venue & come away with all 3 points and an impressive performance.

Top class finish from Berbatov, very cool under pressure.

[legend76]

Shows how much I know.

well at least you were right about the atmosphere. they were unbelievably vocal. Have to say that i was very surprised by how convincing the victory was, but before we get too carried away, maybe we should acknowledge that Besiktas weren't quite as good as we thought

[legend76]

Though game tonight, but in fairness i think Spurs should do it. Zokora could be back in the frame after being out with Malaria of all things!!!

[STEVIEG]

Zokora could be back in the frame after being out with Malaria of all things!!!


I hope she was good looking this Malaria wan

[MonTheHoops]

I hope she was good looking this Malaria wan

Sick joke

[jungle]

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[legend76]

Good win for spurs last night. Great to see them score three after being a goal down, better still it was nice to see Robbie Keane take his chance well. Top of the group with full points they should quailfy to the next stage. it would be funny if they ended up playing Man United!!!!!!

[afeencalleddan]

Enough of this Celtic/United champions league mockery - the real game of the week is on at the BayArena tonight.:p

Jenas is out (boo hoo, what a pity!). Hopefully Lennon and Chimbonda will be available but they have to pass fitness tests. A win would see Spurs through while a draw would make it all but an absolute certainty. Should be decent enough to watch if you have Setanta.

[MonTheHoops]

Enough of this Celtic/United champions league mockery - the real game of the week is on at the BayArena tonight.:p

Jenas is out (boo hoo, what a pity!). Hopefully Lennon and Chimbonda will be available but they have to pass fitness tests. A win would see Spurs through while a draw would make it all but an absolute certainty. Should be decent enough to watch if you have Setanta.

Rangers at Auxerre too. A game they should win. Met some of them in Dublin airport yesterday on the way to France. Jenas. WTF has gone wrong there?

[RedCityKid]

Rangers at Auxerre too. A game they should win. Met some of them in Dublin airport yesterday on the way to France. Jenas. WTF has gone wrong there?

Nothins gone wrong really just he was always overhyped and pretty much average really. He gets through a lot of work yes but his passing is average and hes not exactly a clinical finisher for an attacking midfielder. Give me Tainio ahead of Jenas anyday of the week

[afeencalleddan]

Decent enough first half. Bayer are clueless at the back - leaving Keane and Lennon with too much space to get turned. Surely they won't be that generous in the second half. Spurs should be more than a goal ahead.

[afeencalleddan]

Nice 1-0 victory. Bayer were more of a threat in the second half but it should have been more than 1-0. Qualification wrapped up with a game to spare. No goals conceded in 2 away games. Very efficient. This Spurs team look far more crafty than Middlesborough last season but we'll see what happens.

[RedCityKid]

Yep things are looking good so far. It'll be interesting to see what teams come into the last 16 from the champs league. But if we finish first in our group we are going to avoid them anyway. Strange the way we look so assured away from home in the UEFA compared to whats happening in the premiership. I dont think there is any explanation for it I just think thats the way shit happens sometimes. Im still confident we will finish top six in league and hopefully we will pick up a cup somewhere along the way.

[legend76]

Great win away to Bayer the other night. Glad to see Berbatov bang a goal against his old club. most surprising of all they managed to translate that form to the premiership with a brillant win yesterday!!! Spurs have looked very solid in Europe, winning a group which some folk thought we'd struggle to get out of

[afeencalleddan]

Another excellent first half display tonight. Showing the right attitude from the start and getting the job done. Fair play to Jol for bigging up the UEFA cup too. Interesting comments.

[RedCityKid]

4 out of 4 in a group we would dupposedly struggle in! I really think we are seeing the benefits of a regular strike partnership and a more regular team in gereral. Hopefully they will leave things alone as much as they can for Man City at the weekend. Defoe should ALWAYS start

[STEVIEG]

Feyenoord v Tottenham

[EL TORO]

Feyenoord v Tottenham

Was at the feyenoord v Blackburn game last month. Great stadium, savage atmosphere, the fans are total nutters though, A throwback to the mid eighties. Spurs will beat them at a canter though. They've got no bite up front.

[STEVIEG]

Was at the feyenoord v Blackburn game last month. Great stadium, savage atmosphere, the fans are total nutters though, A throwback to the mid eighties. Spurs will beat them at a canter though. They've got no bite up front.


Yup looks like a good tie
Yeah the Dutch stadiums and atmosphere are a real throwback alright

[EL TORO]

Yup looks like a good tie
Yeah the Dutch stadiums and atmosphere are a real throwback alright


Colleague of mine has to travel to Tel Aviv with Rangers for their game, He aint happy at all. Some tasty ties left in the Uefa cup though, not the damp squib it normally is.

[STEVIEG]

Colleague of mine has to travel to Tel Aviv with Rangers for their game, He aint happy at all. Some tasty ties left in the Uefa cup though, not the damp squib it normally is.


Yup some big teams there alright in fairness i'd like if Spurs did it

[legend76]

Feyenoord v Tottenham

Spurs are the first team Through to the Last 16. after getting a bye

[STEVIEG]

Spurs are the first team Through to the Last 16. after getting a bye

good stuff

[legend76]

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/news/kind=1/newsid=500488.html

[legend76]

http://www.feyenoord.com/pages/newsdetail/S1/10010000013534-999-10010000000003.aspx

[afeencalleddan]

good stuffI dunno about that. I'd rather they played it. The season was alive when the European run was in full swing. Now it's gone all flat again. A European game could clear away the cobwebs. If they want to kick Feyenoord out then they should just promote whoever finished 4th in that group.

[MonTheHoops]

I dunno about that. I'd rather they played it. The season was alive when the European run was in full swing. Now it's gone all flat again. A European game could clear away the cobwebs. If they want to kick Feyenoord out then they should just promote whoever finished 4th in that group.

And whoever comes up against you will have a "these fuckers got a free ride through" attitude about them - especially if they come through a tough tie.

[legend76]

It looks as if Feyenoord's appeal has failed. The following announcement was on the Spurs web site

"The Club understands that Feyenoord have filed an Appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) regarding the decision by the UEFA Appeals Body to exclude them from the UEFA Cup 2006/07.
CAS has indicated that a decision will be reached by Friday 9th February at the latest. We shall of course inform you of the outcome as soon as we have it.

Again we would advise fans not to make any travel arrangements to Holland for the game until the matter is finally resolved"

One wonders why the CAS would wait that long to make it offical, it can't be helpful for either party. interesting point form AFeenCalledDan about clearing out cobwebs, but hopfully after tomorrow night they'll be a cup final against Chelski. Liverpool had a leauge cup in the bag the last time they won the UEFA cup

[legend76]

Thursday, 22 February 2007
Five former UEFA Cup winners will be battling to join two-time holders Tottenham Hotspur FC in the last 16 when the Round of 32 concludes.
Potential clash
Handed a bye following the expulsion of 1973/74 and 2001/02 UEFA Cup winners Feyenoord, Martin Jol's side will meet the winners of Parma FC's tie with SC Braga. Should Claudio Ranieri's men overturn the 1-0 deficit from the first leg in Portugal, it would set up a meeting between the only two remaining two-time UEFA Cup winners in the competition.
Two-time winners
Parma may be having hard times in Serie A, but they can draw plenty of inspiration from their recent history, having won the UEFA Cup in 1994/95 and 1998/99 and reached the semi-finals two seasons ago. Tottenham, meanwhile, won the inaugural UEFA Cup competition in 1971/72 and brought the trophy back to north London again in 1983/84.
Ajax in peril
The most likeliest of the former winners remaining to miss out on the last 16 are AFC Ajax, although the Dutch club are a force to be reckoned with at the Amsterdam ArenA. The 1991/92 UEFA Cup winners are 3-0 down from the first leg of their tie against Werder Bremen, with the German side showing the form that saw them narrowly miss out on a place in the UEFA Champions League Round of 16.
Holders hopeful
Holders Sevilla FC will hope they can maintain their 2-0 first-leg advantage as FC Steaua Bucuresti return to the scene of their 1985/86 European Champion Clubs' Cup triumph - Seville's Rámon Sánchez-Pizjuán Stadium. Meanwhile, 2004/05 winners PFC CSKA Moskva face a tricky trip to Maccabi Haifa FC after drawing 0-0 in the home leg of their tie, played 1,500km from chilly Moscow in Vladikavkaz.
English ties
The only other former winners, 1987/88 champions Bayer 04 Leverkusen, will take a 3-2 lead into the away leg of their tie against Blackburn Rovers FC. Elsewhere in England, Newcastle United FC will be presented with the UEFA Intertoto Cup trophy as the longest surviving team from the traditional summer competition, as they welcome SV Zulte Waregem, holding a 3-1 lead.
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http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/news/kind=1/newsid=503292.html

[STEVIEG]

Some decent teams left!

[legend76]

Newcastle United FC will be presented with the UEFA Intertoto Cup trophy as the longest surviving team from the traditional summer competition.

That's their first trophy since the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup back in 1969

[legend76]

Leverkusen 3-2 Blackburn
H. Tel-Aviv 2-5 Rangers
Livorno 1-4 Espanyol
Fenerbahçe 5-5 AZ (ag)
Bremen 4-3 Ajax
CSKA Moskva 0-1 M. Haifa
AEK 0-4 PSG
Benfica 3-1 Dinamo Bucuresti
Shakhtar 2-1 Nancy
Bordeaux 0-1 Osasuna (aet)
Steaua 0-3 Sevilla
Spartak Moskva 2-3 Celta
Zulte Waregem 1-4 Newcastle
Braga 2-0 Parma
Lens 3-1 Panathinaikos
Feyenoord (c) Tottenham (bye)

[STEVIEG]

Tottenham (bye)

We are used to saying "bye" to Totteham at this stage of the competitions but this year it's on!!!

Where the hell is Dan?

[legend76]

Here's what Martin Jol had to say about Thursday's game


Our next assignment is Braga away in the last 16 of the UEFA Cup on Thursday. I went to see them personally last week and I can tell you that they use a lot of players in order to rest people for forthcoming big games.

Overall we have got a very good impression of them and if you let them express themselves on the ball they are very strong with their Brazilian influence. Braga are well organised at the back so it will be a difficult match away from home.

Hopefully we can get a good result on our travels and, in front of our crowd at the Lane, finish them off.

Braga's ground, Estádio Municipal de Braga, is very different and I have been there a couple of times. As many of you will remember from Euro 2004 there are no stands behind the goals and it is set in a valley. You go down in a lift to get to the stands and it is very strange, there are two big stands and I expect there will be quite a few people there.

I saw them when there were 6,000 in the stadium and that was a good atmosphere, so you can imagine what it will be like against us with our travelling support.

The game is been shown live on Setanta Sports , kick off is at 21.35!!!

[legend76]

Great win for Spurs last night, Good to see Keane bag another brace. Spurs might have gotten lucky with an offside call, but I think Jol was right when he said it would have been an injustice if they hadn't won, especially after being two nil up after 72 mins.

With three away goals in the bag, only a unimaginable collapse at White hart next Thursday can stop Spurs from reaching the last 8

[legend76]

The return leg against Braga is on ITV tonight, kick off at 8.15

[afeencalleddan]

The return leg against Braga is on ITV tonight, kick off at 8.15Also on TV3.

Who's going to play alongside Dawson? I'd say it'll have to be Huddlestone or Stalteri.

[legend76]

Also on TV3.

Who's going to play alongside Dawson? I'd say it'll have to be Huddlestone or Stalteri.

Huddlestone played at centre-half while at Derby, Zokora is an option as well.
Maybe they might blood Dorian Dervite, seeing as Rocha is Cup-tied

[Loftydog]

Fairly mad game in the end but another 3-2 wins for spurs

[farranreeboy]

Berbatov took his second goal very well, nice finish

[legend76]

Another Great performance from Berbatov. Spurs keep their 100% record in Europe

[legend76]

Spurs have joined three teams in the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup with the last eight line-up finalised tonight - the draw follows on Friday (March 16).

Bayer Leverkusen beat Lens 3-0 on the night and 4-2 on aggregate, Werder Bremen completed a 3-0 aggregate win over Celta Vigo while Spanish side Osasuna knocked-out Rangers 2-1 on aggregate, beating them 1-0 in the second leg.

The final four Round of 16 ties will be completed tonight - here is how they stand...
Benfica (1) v PSG (2)
Espanyol (0) v Macabi Haifa (0)
AZ Alkmaar (2) v Newcastle (4) This is on TV3 tonight
Shakhtar Donetsk (2) v Seville (2)

The draw for the quarter-finals and semi-finals together will be held in Glasgow on Friday (noon).

[homer jay]

Another Great performance from Berbatov. Spurs keep their 100% record in Europe

nicely taken goals. how long before the mancs start saying how well he'd play with rooney?

[legend76]

nicely taken goals. how long before the mancs start saying how well he'd play with rooney?

That's the obvious downside, he's been playing so well lately that there's bound to be transfer talk in the summer, would be gutted if he went to Manyoo

[STEVIEG]

nicely taken goals. how long before the mancs start saying how well he'd play with rooney?

There ain't much "mancs" posting here

Didn't he already reject United anyway?

There's loads of talk of Chelsea important for Spurs to keep him

[afeencalleddan]

The draw for the rest of the competition will be made at 12pm. I actually wouldn't mind getting Sevilla. Their priority has got to be La Liga. Shakhtar blew it big time against them. I'd rather avoid Osasuna, Espanyol, Benfica, Werder Bremen and Bayer Leverkusen. AZ would be a decent draw.

I'm fairly sure Berbatov will miss the first leg of the quarter cos he got booked in both legs against Braga. That'll be a huge blow.

[Sound]

Anyone see the Barcodes last night? Shay Given must be at the end of this tether.

[Rebelred]

Anyone see the Barcodes last night? Shay Given must be at the end of this tether.

god they got a pasting. 2-0 is an injustice to Az, who must be some sort of dutch Arsenal equivalent. They played great flowing football and were able to find holes in every area of newcastles defence. Duff was woeful again. Van Gaal seems to be putting a good side together there

Poor Shay, ya gotta feel for him.

[RedCityKid]

The draw for the rest of the competition will be made at 12pm. I actually wouldn't mind getting Sevilla. Their priority has got to be La Liga. Shakhtar blew it big time against them. I'd rather avoid Osasuna, Espanyol, Benfica, Werder Bremen and Bayer Leverkusen. AZ would be a decent draw.

I'm fairly sure Berbatov will miss the first leg of the quarter cos he got booked in both legs against Braga. That'll be a huge blow.

Isn't it three yellows this year b4 you get suspended. So I thought anyway.

[CHANCE]

Watching it here on uefa.com but the sound is gone FFS.

[afeencalleddan]

Isn't it three yellows this year b4 you get suspended. So I thought anyway.Hopefully, but he's on thin ice now. All the games are vital now so he can't afford another. The one he got the other night was really stupid for stopping a quick free kick on the edge of Braga's own penalty box.

Quarters
1) AZ Alkmaar v Werder Bremen
2) Bayer Leverkusen v Osasuna
3) Sevilla v Tottenham Hotspur
4) Espanyol v Benfica

Semis
4 v 1
2 v 3

Nice one. That'll do.

[RedCityKid]

Strangely enough I think we might be better off having the home tie first. The opposition may not come out and attack us as much as they wud if weve got a result in the away leg.

[CHANCE]

Sevilla Vs Spurs with the first leg in spain.

[CHANCE]

Espanyol Vs Benfica

[RedCityKid]

Well if were gonna win anything this year were gonna be doing it the hard way

[CHANCE]

Az Vs Bremen was the first tie out.

[CHANCE]

Leverkusen Vs Osasuna was the second tie

[afeencalleddan]

Quarters
1) AZ Alkmaar v Werder Bremen
2) Bayer Leverkusen v Osasuna
3) Sevilla v Tottenham Hotspur
4) Espanyol v Benfica

Semis
4 v 1
2 v 3

[legend76]

It will be a very very iteresting tie, Spurs old boy Fredi Kanuote is in flying form for the defending champions.


Should Spurs progress to the semi-finals they would take on the winners of the tie between Bayer Leverkusen and Osasuna, and would be at home in the second leg.

[farranreeboy]

Sevilla will tear them to shreds

[afeencalleddan]

Dear Football Supporter,
We are delighted to confirm that your application for tickets for the UEFA Cup Final 2007 to be held at Hampden Park, Glasgow, Scotland on Wednesday 16 May 2007 at 19.45hrs (local time) has been successful.Beauty. Now let's hope Spurs make it.

[afeencalleddan]

Enough of all this champions league rubbish with its 4-6-0 formations. The game in Seville tonight should be a goodun. When the draw was made I thought the holders were a good draw to get. La Liga is surely their priority and Shakhtar should have beaten them in the last round. There should be a few goals and hopefully Spurs can maintain their great away record in the competition. TV3 are covering it 'nall.

[RedCityKid]

Enough of all this champions league rubbish with its 4-6-0 formations. The game in Seville tonight should be a goodun. When the draw was made I thought the holders were a good draw to get. La Liga is surely their priority and Shakhtar should have beaten them in the last round. There should be a few goals and hopefully Spurs can maintain their great away record in the competition. TV3 are covering it 'nall.

Im gonna go for a 2-2 draw tonight.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Anyone know what time ko is at?

[afeencalleddan]

Anyone know what time ko is at?7:45

[Edmund Blackwater]

7:45
Cheers.
I think Seville should take this handily enough if they field a full strength team.
2-0.

[RedCityKid]

Cheers.
I think Seville should take this handily enough if they field a full strength team.
2-0.

Spurs wont lose by more than one. Of that Im pretty certain. And they will get an away goal.

[afeencalleddan]

Osasuna are 1 up in Leverkusen. 32 minutes gone.

[STEVIEG]

Hopefully no injuries for Spurs and a victory!

[afeencalleddan]

Hopefully no injuries for Spurs and a victory!Huddlestone is out. Bit of a blow if it comes to a stage where Spurs need to get a hold of the ball in midfield.

[STEVIEG]

Huddlestone is out. Bit of a blow if it comes to a stage where Spurs need to get a hold of the ball in midfield.

Yeah heard that when is the Chelsea game sat or sun is he fit for that?

[RedCityKid]

Yeah heard that when is the Chelsea game sat or sun is he fit for that?

He's out for rest of season. Chelsea game is on sat. I wudn't have too much hope for us getting anything there stevie as i've a feeling hes gonna make a good few changes for the team to play chelsea.

[STEVIEG]

He's out for rest of season. Chelsea game is on sat. I wudn't have too much hope for us getting anything there stevie as i've a feeling hes gonna make a good few changes for the team to play chelsea.

yeah i can't see it either:(

ah well good luck tonight

[RedCityKid]

yeah i can't see it either:(

ah well good luck tonight

Cheers. To be honest I dont believe Utd will need anyones help from here on in they will not drop 7 points in the remaining 7 fixtures I'm sure u will agree.

[STEVIEG]

Cheers. To be honest I dont believe Utd will need anyones help from here on in they will not drop 7 points in the remaining 7 fixtures I'm sure u will agree.

I dunno Portsmouth can be tricky as will Everton and maybe even City away not too mention Chavski

We'll see though

[afeencalleddan]

Osasuna are in the semis. 3-0 up away to Bayer. They'll play Sevilla/Spurs in the semi.

[kevinbitzz]

Thursday night footie, this game looks like it could be a cracker, an early goal for either side would do nicely.

[kevinbitzz]

0-1, keane, early goal no less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kevinbitzz]

1-1 kanoute, 17 mins

[afeencalleddan]

1-1 kanoute, 17 minsDisgraceful refereeing á la Milan v Bayern.

[kevinbitzz]

Disgraceful refereeing á la Milan v Bayern.

indeed, but not a bad game,

[homer jay]

turned it on just before the penalty was given. disgraceful decision. was keane's goal any good?

[kevinbitzz]

turned it on just before the penalty was given. disgraceful decision. was keane's goal any good?

good play by Berbatov, slid the ball accoss to keane who shot staight at the keeper, put away at the 2nd attempt

[Philby]

It's been a great game so far. Full of pace & invention. Unfortunately things are kicking off against between the local police and the travelling English fans.

[kevinbitzz]

It's been a great game so far. Full of pace & invention. Unfortunately things are kicking off against between the local police and the travelling English fans.

must be from manchester, :D

[kevinbitzz]

2-1, nice header but poor defending

[afeencalleddan]

I suppose 2-1 isn't too bad on paper but I'd have much preferred a draw or a higher scoring 1 goal defeat. I fear a bit for Spurs' dodgy defence in the second leg. Clean sheets are hard to come by these days. The semi spot is achievable but it'll be very close. The second half wasn't great and I'm actually surprised that Sevilla didn't try too hard for anther goal. Hopefully they'll be punished for it next week.

Espanyol must be sick. They were 3 up at home to Benfica after an hour but let it slip to 3-2. Benfica should be in the driving seat there. AZ drew 0-0 at home to Bremen. Should make for an interesting second leg which could still go either way. Osasuna are already through after winning so easily in Leverkusen.

[legend76]

The Penalty decision was outrageous, but Spurs still have a big shout, thought they were the better side over the ninety minutes, Hopefully they can do the job at home on thursday night. The scenes from behind the goal were frightening, and from all-accounts there was no fan-on- fan fighting, Police rushed in as Spurs fans were quite rightly vocal over the horrendous decision by the referee to award the penalty, Saw a report on Sky Sports news, where Spurs issued a statement saying that a disabled fan was hit so hard that he was knocked out of his wheelchair. The statement didn't mention any involvement by Glenn Hoddle

[homer jay]

The statement didn't mention any involvement by Glenn Hoddle

oooohhhhwwwww, controversial.

[Philby]

Saw a report on Sky Sports news, where Spurs issued a statement saying that a disabled fan was hit so hard that he was knocked out of his wheelchair. The statement didn't mention any involvement by Glenn Hoddle

Joke of the week...I like, I like,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/f/f0/20060508004440!Star_ Ouro.gif

[RedCityKid]

Joke of the week...I like, I like,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/f/f0/20060508004440!Star_ Ouro.gif

The jewish slurs are never ending for us spurs fans!

[Edmund Blackwater]

Saw a report on Sky Sports news, where Spurs issued a statement saying that a disabled fan was hit so hard that he was knocked out of his wheelchair. The statement didn't mention any involvement by Glenn Hoddle
Jew-Jitsu?

[legend76]

Jew-Jitsu?

According to BBC Northern Ireland .... Glenn tore in

http://www.kassiesa.com/uefaclubs/images/Glentoran.png

[afeencalleddan]

I suppose this thread would be considered the official Spurs thread at this stage so:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=46001 4&CPID=8&clid=6&lid=3&title=Taarabt+claims +Tottenham+deal

Taarabt claims Tottenham deal

By Laurent Picard - Created on 10 Apr 2007




Adel Taarabt claims he has signed a contract at Tottenham that will keep him at White Hart Lane for the next five years.

The French youngster joined the North London club on loan from Lens during the January transfer window, with a view to a permanent move.
Taarabt is enjoying his new surroundings and says he has already committed to Martin Jol's side for the long-term.

However, the permanent deal can only become official when the midfielder turns 18 at the end of May.

Taarabt, who played the final 25 minutes of Spurs' defeat to Chelsea on Saturday, is delighted with his decision to move to the Premiership.
"I am not on loan, I have signed for five years but the contract will be official when I am 18 years of age," he told RMC.

"It is a nice story for me. I belong to Spurs. I feel very good, this club trusts youngsters and there are French players Pascal Chimbonda and Steed Malbranque, and Didier Zokora and Teemu Tainio speak French.
"I was watched by Tottenham scouts when I played with the France Under 17 team.

"I asked Lens to play, but they told me I was too young. Spurs representatives told me I would regularly play with them, so I immediately agreed to move. They love French people there.

"In England you have to attack for the fans. Even if you lead 3-1 at home, you add more strikers, whereas in France you replace strikers with defenders."

Meanwhile, Taarabt has stated his desire to represent France in international football, despite also being eligible to play for Morocco.
"I am French, my family is from Morocco but I would prefer to play for France," he added.

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If it's true then this is good news. The guy has had a couple of cameos as a substitute and looked really impressive.

[STEVIEG]

Seville keeper is out of the tie

[legend76]

Any news on Ledley King??? He travelled to Spain and supposedly almost made the bench for the first leg

[Edmund Blackwater]

Any news on Ledley King??? He travelled to Spain and supposedly almost made the bench for the first leg
They've put a stairmaster in at White Hart Lane, so he should be able to get that far this time.

[legend76]

They've put a stairmaster in at White Hart Lane, so he should be able to get that far this time.

LOL, although I hate to ruin a good joke by being overly pedantic, but a stairmaster is actually a piece of gym equipment

http://www.home-gym-equipment-guide.com/steppers/stairmaster/images/stairmaster-4600pt.jpg

Think you meant Stairlift, like the one this Peter Crouch fan is using

http://kevcollins.net/images/page8/dalek_stairlift.jpg

[legend76]

Seville keeper is out of the tie

Goalkeeper Andrés Palop and striker Ernesto Chevantón will miss the second leg of Sevilla FC's UEFA Cup quarter-final against Tottenham Hotspur FC.
Medical staff have confirmed Palop is suffering from a calf injury while Chevantón, the team's top scorer in the UEFA Cup this season with four goals, has strained a muscle in his right leg, having started last week's first leg, which the UEFA Cup holders won 2-1 in Spain, on the bench. David Cobeño is expected to take Palop's place for the game at White Hart Lane.

Here's Chimbonda's view on Sevilla

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/news/kind=1/newsid=524723.html

[legend76]

http://soundtracks-1.urochordata.de/images/jp%20The-Lord-of-the-Rings-The-Return-of-the-King-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack-includes-DVD-Video%20BbbbbUHFCv.b d._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Forsberg]

http://soundtracks-1.urochordata.de/images/jp%20The-Lord-of-the-Rings-The-Return-of-the-King-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack-includes-DVD-Video%20BbbbbUHFCv.b d._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Wasn't there rumours a couple of months back that his career was over? Or was that just a wind up?

[Roman Abramovich]

hopefully spuds can do the business. twould be sweet to see an english euro cup and uefa cup and super cup winner.

good times to be a fan of the prem

[legend76]

Wasn't there rumours a couple of months back that his career was over? Or was that just a wind up?

There was a rumour he was murdered at Home farm over Christmas, but it turns out that was TOM King

[legend76]

"We got off to a great start and played some good football," Robbie reflected. "Sometimes things are just out of your control and the penalty knocked us out of our stride a little bit.

"With the second goal we lost concentration but, all in all, while of course you want to go away and win all the time, the important thing was getting the away goal and we managed to do that.

"We have got every confidence in ourselves over winning the return tonight," he went on to predict, before reflecting on the ease with which the team were able to move the ball around, in the early stages in particular.

"They will let you play but we are a good side and we like to play good football. We know that if a team gives us space and time we can punish them.

"We did that for periods but here at White Hart Lane we will be looking to do that for the majority of the game."

"We have to be confident. They are a good side, Sevilla, no question about it and their domestic form suggests that. But we have got no fear of anyone.

"Playing at White Hart Lane, I'm sure the atmosphere will be great. When the supporters get behind the team it really does help the players and our fans will do this for us tonight. "


Here's hoping ...

[Philby]

I don't think Spurs have it in them to knock Sevilla out (if Sevilla are fully up for it tonight) although I can see them going down fighting.

[dotty]

I don't think Spurs have it in them to knock Sevilla out (if Sevilla are fully up for it tonight) although I can see them going down fighting.

yeah reckon it could be a cracker,both sides try to play open attractive football and one thing for certain is sevilla will get an away goal.

[FL4ZGN]

It's all over and Sevilla have advanced to the semi-finals of the UEFA Cup having completed a 4-3 aggregate triumph over Tottenham following a thrilling night at White Hart Lane.

[afeencalleddan]

It's all over and Sevilla have advanced to the semi-finals of the UEFA Cup having completed a 4-3 aggregate triumph over Tottenham following a thrilling night at White Hart Lane.Hardly. Spurs saved some face in the end but they were asleep for the first 8 minutes and then felt sorry for themselves until 20 minutes into the second half.

In hindsight, the most vital period of the whole tie was the 17 minutes between Robbie Keane's goal and that penalty. It's easy to put it down to the ridiculous mistake that the ref made but Spurs just totally retreated in that period when they should have been consolidating the strong position they found themselves in. There was every chance that Sevilla could have been 2-1 up by half time anyway even without the help of the ref.

Huddlestone was a big loss over the 180 minutes and the full back situation tonight contributed to the drowsiness at the start. Dawson's inexperience was exposed. He played poorly throughout and he set the tone for the evening by duffing a straightforward header at the start of the game that sparked the early pressure from Sevilla.

On the plus side, it's great to see King back. Hopefully he can stay fit and Spurs can maintain the good league form. I assume that if Chelsea and United qualify for the FA cup final then the 7th placed Premiership team will qualify for the UEFA cup.

[afeencalleddan]

Alas, Spurs aren't involved but the semis are about to kick off. I'll be going to the final so I'm cheering on Werder Bremen now. They're away to Espanyol tonight while Osasuna are at home to Sevilla in the other game.

[legend76]

Great win against Charlton last night, so hopefully this thread will be revitalised in the autumn. Spurs in sixth now, a point behind Everton but with a game in hand, Victory over AmadeusDC's lot a the lane on Thursday should pretty much seal qualification, as I can't see Man City turning us over on the final day at the lane

[legend76]

exactly a year to go to next year's UEFA Cup final, on in Old Trafford

The campaign kicks off on September 20, 2007 1st round UEFA Cup, 1st leg.

[Forsberg]

exactly a year to go to next year's UEFA Cup final, on in Old Trafford

The campaign kicks off on September 20, 2007 1st round UEFA Cup, 1st leg.

City of Manchester stadium actually

[legend76]

City of Manchester stadium actually

wrong of me to make that assumption, it said

May 14, 2008 Final UEFA Cup (Manchester)

on

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/calendar2007.html

[Forsberg]

wrong of me to make that assumption, it said



on

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/calendar2007.html

Tut tut tut.


It'll be a nice half hour drive for the toffees :)

[legend76]

Tut tut tut.




silly me, should have known, it was announced last October

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/5407664.stm

First time a major trophy will be seen at Man City since February 1976.




It'll be a nice half hour drive for the toffees :)

Didn't Everton's last UEFA cup 'adventure' end in a 5-2 defeat against Dinamo Bucharest??? A side who Spurs beat 3-1 in this year's competition?

[Forsberg]

silly me, should have known, it was announced last October

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/5407664.stm

First time a major trophy will be seen at Man City since February 1976.




Didn't Everton's last UEFA cup 'adventure' end in a 5-2 defeat against Dinamo Bucharest??? A side who Spurs beat 3-1 in this year's competition?

Their heart wasn't in it .Perluigi Collina had just cost them their place in the group stages of the Champions Leaguea at Villareal. I think subconsciusly , they just wanted rid of Europe that year.

At least that what I tell myself anyway

[legend76]

Their heart wasn't in it .Perluigi Collina had just cost them their place in the group stages of the Champions Leaguea at Villareal. I think subconsciusly , they just wanted rid of Europe that year.

At least that what I tell myself anyway

;)

[afeencalleddan]

I'm off to Hampden on wednesday and I'll be applying for tickets again next year should Spurs be still in the competition when the applications are due in as they were this year *sigh*.

[legend76]

I'm off to Hampden on wednesday and I'll be applying for tickets again next year should Spurs be still in the competition when the applications are due in as they were this year *sigh*.

I think I'd find it easier to swallow if Sevilla win and win well, then at least we can take some pride in not being that far off.

As for Spurs still being in the competition when the applications are due, that will be decided. if the worst case senario comes true and United Get Berbs and Gareth Bale, we can forget it!! Here's hoping they sign Huntelaar instead.

P.s. and Louis Saha can F*ck off , if they think about some kind of swap deal

[legend76]

Spurs drew Anorthosis Famagusta from Cyprus in the first round.Spurs are at home in the 1st Leg of the tie on Thursday September 20, kick-off 8pm. The 2nd Leg of the tie will take place in Larnaca, Cyprus, on Thursday October 4. This match will kick-off at 7pm Anorthosis Famagusta have now confirmed that the match will be played in the Antonis Papadopolous stadium which has a capacity of 9,600.


full draw

Midtjylland - Lokomotiv Moskva
Groningen - Fiorentina
Rabotnicki - Bolton
AEK - Salzburg
Nürnberg - Rapid Bucuresti
Everton - Metalist
Tottenham - Anorthosis
Lens - København
Getafe - Twente
Groclin - Crvena Zvezda
Hamburg - Litex
Sarajevo - Basel
Austria Wien - Vålerenga
H. Tel-Aviv - AIK
Aris - Zaragoza
Dinamo Bucuresti - Elfsborg
Loko Sofia - Rennes
Brann - Club Brugge
Bayern - Belenenses
Aberdeen - Dnipro
Heerenveen - Helsingborg
Toulouse - CSKA Sofia
Sampdoria - AaB
Spartak Moskva - Häcken
Hammarby - Braga
Larissa - Blackburn
Mladá Boleslav - Palermo
Dinamo Zagreb - Ajax
Artmedia - Panathinaikos
Sparta - OB
Empoli - Zürich
Sochaux - Panionios
Anderlecht - Rapid Wien
Paços de Ferreira - AZ
Zenit - Standard
Leverkusen - Leiria
Villarreal - BATE
Sion - Galatasaray
Atlético - Erciyesspor
Bordeaux - Tampere

[legend76]

Spurs opponents tonight, ANORTHOSIS FAMAGUSTA are Managed by former Newcastle Utd player Temur Ketsbaia, and Former Southampton striker Marian Pahars plays up front.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur .com/images/articles/5857-6.jpg

[homer jay]

good win for them last night and some nice goals from keane and defoe. pitch looked unreal.

[legend76]

good win for them last night and some nice goals from keane and defoe. pitch looked unreal.

It was a better surface than Sporting Lisbon's !!!

6-1 was pretty infactic alright

Defoe's two goals were probably the highlight.

Everton didn't do so well against Iron Madien, erm I mean Metallica

[legend76]

Blackburn were beaten by a girl LOL

[legend76]

Cant see spurs losing out tonight. Sure even Stan managed a win out in Cyprus .......... oh no wait a minute

[ebenezer]

Blackburn were beaten by a girl LOL

I didn't even know that, just checked it there, were beaten 2-0.

Even so, they will probably still go through.

[legend76]

Anorthosis 1-0 Tottenham

53' - GOAL ANORTHOSIS! Fabinho with a left-footed strike off the outside of his boot to give the home side the lead!

[STEVIEG]

Anorthosis 1-0 Tottenham

53' - GOAL ANORTHOSIS! Fabinho with a left-footed strike off the outside of his boot to give the home side the lead!

5 more and it's on

The fixture set up here is a joke Monday and now Thursday and then the weekend

[homer jay]

Anorthosis 1-0 Tottenham

53' - GOAL ANORTHOSIS! Fabinho with a left-footed strike off the outside of his boot to give the home side the lead!

jol out!

[afeencalleddan]

1-1 Keane. Jol in again.

[legend76]

74' - LABAN SHOOTS JUST WIDE! He almost capitalises on a poor clearance from Dawson. Keane replaces Lee Young-Pyo for Spurs. Maybe the Irishman can inspire something...

78' - GOAL SPURS! Bale with a driving run down the left and he cuits a cross back which Defoe steps over for Keane to drive into the roof of the net. Inspired substitution as the two replacements combine to make it 1-1.

[afeencalleddan]

Finished 1-1.

[Superior]

It was a better surface than Sporting Lisbon's !!!

6-1 was pretty infactic alright

Defoe's two goals were probably the highlight.

Everton didn't do so well against Iron Madien, erm I mean Metallica

For the love of Mike!

[legend76]

17:35 - FULL TIME. 1-1 it finishes.

Spurs go through 7-2 on agg.

[legend76]

For the love of Mike!

Emphatic spell checking there

[legend76]

Martin Jol reflected: "You always want to win games and it wasn't easy to be 6-1 up from the first leg and come here, one day's preparations and it was a strange feeling, like a pre-season game in that it was so warm.
"We played several different players and I felt we could take that gamble.
"We lacked a bit of rhythm in the second half and the only thing disappointing thing was I couldn't take off the likes of Huddlestone and Zokora because we wanted to get something out of the game.
"Gareth Bale is very good going forward and Robbie Keane is a great finisher and we needed them both.
"I wanted to win and that's why I put Adel Taarabt on, he can change things. We had the chances and if you don't take them, you have to settle for a draw. At the end of the day we've won 7-2 on aggregate and we're into the group stages."
Martin could afford a smile as he talked about Famagusta's goal - Frousos blatantly handled in the box before Pereira's fine finish.
"We wanted to keep a clean sheet but if you saw their goal, I'd still consider this game a clean sheet!" he laughed. "They had two goalkeepers on the pitch!"

[Superior]

Think he's going to get the boot. I've revised my opinion of him. Downwards. I hope they keep him though.

[legend76]

2007/08 UEFA Cup
Group stage draw - 11.00 GMT, 9 October


Aalborg BK (DEN) Aberdeen FC (SCO)
ACF Fiorentina (ITA) AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
AEK Athens FC (GRE) AZ Alkmaar (NED)
FC Bayern München (GER) Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
Bolton Wanderers FC (ENG) Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Everton FC (ENG) FC Aris Thessaloniki (GRE)
FC Basel 1893 (SUI) FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
FC København (DEN) FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)
FC Spartak Moskva (RUS) FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)
FC Zürich (SUI) FK Austria Wien (AUT)
FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB) FK Mladá Boleslav (CZE)
Getafe CF (ESP) Hamburger SV (GER)
Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) Galatasaray SK (TUR)
Helsingborgs IF (SWE) IF Elfsborg (SWE)
Larissa FC (GRE) NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Panathinaikos FC (GRE) Panionios NFC (GRE)
RSC Anderlecht (BEL) SC Braga (POR)
SK Brann (NOR) Stade Rennais FC (FRA)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) Toulouse FC (FRA)
Villarreal CF (ESP) FC Nürnberg (GER)

[legend76]

Group A
1. AZ Alkmaar (NED)
2. FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)
3. Everton FC (ENG)
4. 1. FC Nürnberg (GER)
5. Larissa FC (GRE)

Group B
1. Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
2. FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)
3. Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
4. FC København (DEN)
5. Aberdeen FC (SCO)

Group C
1. Villarreal CF (ESP)
2. AEK Athens FC (GRE)
3. ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
4. FK Mladá Boleslav (CZE)
5. IF Elfsborg (SWE)

Group D
1. FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
2. Hamburger SV (GER)
3. Stade Rennais FC (FRA)
4. NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
5. SK Brann (NOR)

Group E
1. Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
2. AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
3. FC Spartak Moskva (RUS)
4. Toulouse FC (FRA)
5. FC Zürich (SUI)

Group F
1. FC Bayern München (GER)
2. Bolton Wanderers FC (ENG)
3. SC Braga (POR)
4. FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB)
5. Aris Thessaloniki FC (GRE)

Group G
1. RSC Anderlecht (BEL)
2. Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
3. Getafe CF (ESP)
4. Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
5. Aalborg BK (DEN)

Group H
1. FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
2. FK Austria Wien (AUT)
3. Galatasaray SK (TUR)
4. Panionios GSS (GRE)
5. Helsingborgs IF (SWE)

[afeencalleddan]

Spurs must have done a Man Utd and bribed UEFA. Bolton and Everton got raw deals.

[legend76]

Spurs must have done a Man Utd and bribed UEFA. Bolton and Everton got raw deals.

Bolton have a very though draw in fairness.

Spurs might have problems away to Michael Laundrup's Getafe. they qualified via the spainish cup, beating Barca 4-0 in the semi final 2nd leg, before losing 1-0 to Sevilla in the final

[afeencalleddan]

Bolton have a very though draw in fairness.

Spurs might have problems away to Michael Laundrup's Getafe. they qualified via the spainish cup, beating Barca 4-0 in the semi final 2nd leg, before losing 1-0 to Sevilla in the finalThey might not be away to Getafe though. I don't think the fixtures have been finalised yet. The ideal situation IMO would be home games against Getafe and Hapoel and away games against Anderlecht and Aab.

[legend76]

They might not be away to Getafe though. I don't think the fixtures have been finalised yet. The ideal situation IMO would be home games against Getafe and Hapoel and away games against Anderlecht and Aab.

the draw has been announced, and Spurs kick off the group with a home tie against Getafe

25 Oct Getafe (H)

8 Nov Tel Aviv (A)

29 Nov Aalborg (H)

6 Dec Anderlecht (A)

[afeencalleddan]

the draw has been announced, and Spurs kick off the group with a home tie against Getafe

25 Oct Getafe (H)

8 Nov Tel Aviv (A)

29 Nov Aalborg (H)

6 Dec Anderlecht (A)That'll do fine. Getafe are the only serious team in that lot. Once Spurs got them at home that's all that mattered. I know Spurs fans can't talk but Anderlecht are having a stinker of a season so far.

[legend76]

That'll do fine. Getafe are the only serious team in that lot. Once Spurs got them at home that's all that mattered. I know Spurs fans can't talk but Anderlecht are having a stinker of a season so far.

Indeed they are, got an e-mail from a Belgian mate of mine who's an Anderlecht fan, he said "The Spurs will get a warm welcome in Brussels!
They're the only Belgian team left in Europe…
And they suck bigtime this year"

[Edmund Blackwater]

8 Nov Tel Aviv (A)

There won't be a pig worshipped in Tel Aviv that night

[afeencalleddan]

Spurs will get a warm welcome in BrusselsThere's a history there alright after the Spurs fan was shot dead in a Brussels café in the 80's.

[legend76]

There's a history there alright after the Spurs fan was shot dead in a Brussels café in the 80's.

I suppose you remember Tony Parks' penalty saves against Anderlecht in the '84 final ??

[afeencalleddan]

I suppose you remember Tony Park's penalty saves against Anderlecht in the '84 final ??That was before my time as a Spurs fan but I got the video out soon after I became a supporter in 87. So yes, I'm familiar with that shootout.

[legend76]

That was before my time as a Spurs fan but I got the video out soon after I became a supporter in 87. So yes, I'm familiar with that shootout.

you can't be THAT much older than me so :)

[afeencalleddan]

you can't be THAT much older than me so :)Well if your username is anything to go by you're 2 years older than me.

[legend76]

Well if your username is anything to go by you're 2 years older than me.

my username doth proclaim my vintage

[legend76]

Tottenham Hotspur FC coach Martin Jol and his RSC Anderlecht counterpart Frank Vercauteren declared themselves satisfied after the 1984 UEFA Cup finalists were pitted together in Group G of the competition at Tuesday's draw.
Happy anniversary
Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC, Aalborg BK and Getafe CF, who are competing in Europe for the first time, complete the Group G lineup but it is the meeting of Tottenham and Anderlecht that stands out in the section. The fixture will bring back happy memories for the north London side who are celebrating their 125th anniversary this season.
Parks heroics
The dreaded lottery of penalties decided the outcome in 1984 with Tottenham prevailing to win the competition for the second time. Tony Parks' save from Arnor Gudjohnsen secured victory after the tie had finished 2-2 on aggregate. The Brussels team had looked set to retain the trophy when Alex Czerniatynski scored an hour into the second leg at White Hart Lane. But a late Graham Roberts equaliser in a 1-1 draw, added to the goalkeeping heroics of Parks, ensured otherwise.
'Satisfied'
The two clubs will meet again in the Belgian capital on 6 December, with Jol confident of taking his side through to the knockout stage. "I'm pretty satisfied," Jol said. "You can only assess the group on paper and my feeling is that it could have been a lot tougher for us. Anderlecht away will be a hard one, but it is the final game for us and hopefully we will have done the business by then. They have got fanatical supporters, just like we've got, so that should be a special night with the history between the clubs in this competition."

High hopes
Tottenham were knocked out by Sevilla FC in last term's quarter-finals and, despite a poor start in the Premier League, they will expect to match that at least this time round. Anderlecht coach Vercauteren also believes his charges have a good chance of prolonging their European campaign into the new year. "It's a good draw for Anderlecht," he said. "We avoided a number of top teams, on paper at least. But in this draw there is the danger of drawing conclusions too soon. People might say, 'Oh, that's going to be easy', but I don't believe that.
'Dangerous draw'
"So it is also a dangerous draw, because expectations will probably be high. Some of our opponents we know, some of them we have to discover, but they will all have their own qualities." Group G kicks off on 25 October when Anderlecht host Hapoel Tel-Aviv and Tottenham entertain Getafe, before AaB begin their bid for glory on 8 November at home to the Belgian giants.

[RedCityKid]

How the hell can this be true?????

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2804952 ,00.html

[legend76]

How the hell can this be true?????

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2804952 ,00.html

Chairman Daniel Levy revealed the club would continue to prioritise investment in team personnel plus stadium and training facilities

Shame he doesn't leave this to the manager.
Saw a quote from Jurgen Klinsmann recently when he said he couldn't work under the current conditions at Spurs. he said he'd have to have a say in transfer dealings. It's been well reported that Jol wanted a defensive midfielder and a left winger, and instead had Darren Bent and Kaboul 'forced' upon him

[legend76]

Spurs two nil up at the moment away to Hapoel Tel Aviv. love this quote from the Yahoo live feed

The Spurs front three are playing like Arsenal at the moment, but not in a good way! They are trying to pass their way through the Hapoel defence and always end up playing one pass too many when there is a perfectly good shooting opportunity.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.c om/football/uefa-cup/2007-2008/hapoel-tel-aviv-tottenham-216580.html

[legend76]

Jermaine Jenas is back in the fold for Thursday night's UEFA Cup clash against Anderlecht.The midfielder missed Sunday's reverse at the hands of Birmingham with an ankle injury but has travelled out to Belgium and took a full part in training at the Constant Vanden Stock Stadium on Wednesday night.
Anthony Gardner (ankle), Gareth Bale (foot) and Benoit Assou-Ekotto (knee) remain sidelined while Ledley King and Ricardo Rocha, who both played 45 minutes for the reserves at Fulham on Tuesday night, are not yet ready for first team action.

Great to hear that Ledley King may be close to a return

[gooner]

younes kaboul the hottest prospect,, i,l take what jol was smoking thanks

[legend76]

younes kaboul the hottest prospect,, i,l take what jol was smoking thanks

That's the biggest reason why Ledley King can't return quick enough. hopefully he'll be back in time for the North London derby against ye lot

[gooner]

Yeah Kaboul Is Having A Great Season,, Thats Why He's At Home Tonite And Not In Belgium;)
do like king as a player,, pity about his glass ankles thou,, play for a month then out for 3

[legend76]

Yeah Kaboul Is Having A Great Season,, Thats Why He's At Home Tonite And Not In Belgium;)
do like king as a player,, pity about his glass ankles thou,, play for a month then out for 3 years!!!

Fixed :)

[legend76]

Thought Zokora had a great game last night. Spurs actually looked solid at times :) Funny seeing Berbatov actually give a shit for once

[RedCityKid]

Thought Zokora had a great game last night. Spurs actually looked solid at times :) Funny seeing Berbatov actually give a shit for once

Weird really our two most disapointing players last year are our best performers this year. Malbranque and Zokora!! Wud a got some odds on that happening!! but thats the way spurs work i guess

[legend76]

Spurs will learn their next UEFA Cup opponents on Friday 21 December, with the knockout rounds due to begin on 13/14 February.

wonder who'll get to play Special Olympic Marseille ???

[legend76]

Paddy Power still have Spurs as 3rd favourites, they put Rangers at 40-1



Bayern Munich 10 - 3

Atletico Madrid 8 - 1

Tottenham Hotspur 9 - 1

Villarreal 11 - 1

Fiorentina 14 - 1

Everton 14 - 1

Werder Bremen 14 - 1

Hamburger SV 14 - 1

Benfica 20 - 1

PSV Eindhoven 20 - 1

Bayer Leverkusen 22 - 1

Spartak Moscow 22 - 1

Sporting Lisbon 25 - 1

Getafe 25 - 1

Marseille 28 - 1

Panathinaikos 28 - 1

Girondins Bordeaux 28 - 1

Bolton Wanderers 33 - 1

AZ Alkmaar 33 - 1

Zenit St. Petersburg 33 - 1

Rangers 40 - 1

Galatasaray 40 - 1

AEK Athens 40 - 1

Slavia Prague 50 - 1

FC Zürich 50 - 1

Nurnberg 66 - 1

FC Basel 66 - 1

Rosenborg 80 - 1

Anderlecht 100 - 1

Sporting Braga 100 - 1

Helsingborgs 100 - 1

FC Copenhagen 150 - 1

Panionios 150 - 1

Hapoel Tel Aviv 200 - 1

Rennes 200 - 1

Aris Thessaloniki 200 - 1

SK Brann Bergen 200 - 1

Mlada Boleslav 400 - 1

Dinamo Zagreb 500 - 1

Aberdeen 750 - 1

[Forsberg]

Villareal are a decent bet at 11-1

[afeencalleddan]

Paddy Power still have Spurs as 3rd favourites, they put Rangers at 40-1That seems crazy to me. Spurs look too short, Rangers way too big. Problem with the UEFA cup though is where it falls on the list of a club's priorities. Rosenborg look worthy of a very speculative and very small punt, IMO if even to lay out later on. I'd say Benfica will take it seriously given the deficit between themselves and Porto in the domestic league.

[mithrandir]

So are Fiorentina at 14-1

[legend76]

Villareal are a decent bet at 11-1

to be honest i'd fear them more than the Torres-less Atletico.

Guillermo and Rossi strike more fear than Forlan and Reyes.

on the flip-side they have an obvious weakness in the form of Pascal Cygan

[legend76]

2007/08 UEFA Cup Round of 32
First leg: 13/14 February
Second leg: 21 February
1. Aberdeen FC (SCO) v FC Bayern München (GER)
2. AEK Athens FC (GRE) v Getafe CF (ESP)
3. Bolton Wanderers FC (ENG) v Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
4. FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS) v Villarreal CF (ESP)
5. Galatasaray AS (TUR) v Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
6. RSC Anderlecht (BEL) v FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
7. SK Brann (NOR) v Everton FC (ENG)
8. FC Zürich (SUI) v Hamburger SV (GER)
9. Rangers FC (SCO) v Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
10. PSV Eindhoven (NED) v Helsingborgs IF (SWE)
11. SK Slavia Praha (CZE) v Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
12. Rosenborg BK (NOR) v ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
13. Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) v FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
14. Werder Bremen (GER) v SC Braga (POR)
15. SL Benfica (POR) v 1. FC Nürnberg (GER)
16. Olympique de Marseille (FRA) v FC Spartak Moskva (RUS)








2007/08 UEFA Cup Round of 16
First legmatches: 6 March
Second leg: 12/13 March
Winners of Match 6 v Winners of Match 1
Winners of Match 9 v Winners of Match 14
Winners of Match 3 v Winners of Match 13
Winners of Match 5 v Winners of Match 8
Winners of Match 2 v Winners of Match 15
Winners of Match 12 v Winners of Match 7
Winners of Match 11 v Winners of Match 10
Winners of Match 16 v Winners of Match 4

[legend76]

looking forward to Thursday, not because it's valentine's but because Spurs have a nine o'clock kick off in prague

in related news :

Robinson made Ramos angry
Eurosport - Mon, 11 Feb 14:09:00 2008
Tottenham Hotspur youngster Lukas Pekhart has revealed conflict between coach Juande Ramos and goalkeeper Paul Robinson, and detailed the changes that have turned the club's fortunes around.
The young Czech striker credited extra training and an improved diet for increasing the players' fitness levels, but also claimed that Ramos rarely speaks English.
He also said that Robinson refused to warm up with the team on being dropped for Pakhart's countryman Radek Cerny, provoking a rift between him and Ramos.

Tottenham have improved a lot under Juande Ramos. Why?
When he came, he told us in the dressing room that we were fat and that was the reason we were losing games in the last few minutes. He also wanted us to improve our fitness; that is why he changed the training. We started doing two training sessions a day and sometimes even extra jogging at the end. And, after every session we were weighed. Our eating habits have changed. It was not that strict under Mr [Martin] Jol. It was not that you could eat anything, but there were meals that were not exactly suited for sportsmen. Nowadays you can order vegetables, pasta, fish and chicken - and that is all. We drink water with lemon. Ramos is very strict and particular about discipline.
Has anyone complained about the changes?
No-one has dared to and, moreover, the coach only speaks Spanish. It is Gus Poyet who communicates in English. Nevertheless, Mr Ramos has tried to explain something in English a few times.
Did you have problems with your weight?
No, I was within the limit. I did not have much trouble with the changes as my agent Mr Paska warned me it would same as at Liverpool when Rafael Benitez came there. Spaniards are very strict about this.
Juande Ramos won two UEFA Cup trophies with Sevilla, does it give extra confidence to the Spurs players?That is why they appointed him, he is experienced at winning trophies. And Tottenham want to be winning them. In the Carling Cup we are one step away from winning the first one and in the UEFA Cup we are on the right track.
What do you think of the fact that Radek Cerny has become first-choice goalkeeper for Juande Ramos over the last weeks?We speak with each other every day. Radek is happy, he is enjoying every game and I feel happy for him. He did not get many chances before, but I know that the guys have been saying in training that he was making some unbelievable saves at times. I wish him well.
Paul Robinson, when sitting on the bench and watching the game, gives the impression of being a very angry man. It is like he does not care about the result. Is it just a fantasy or is it true?
Most recently it has been true. When the coach put him on the bench for the first time, against Arsenal, he did not even go to the warm-up which made the coach even more angry.

[legend76]

Spurs are now joint second favourites, I see where Aberdeen have shortened from 750/1 to 300/1 whereas Rangers have drifted from 40/1 to 50/1

Everton gone from 14-1 to 11-1

Bayern Munich 3 - 1
Tottenham Hotspur 8 - 1
Atletico Madrid 8 - 1
Everton 11 - 1
Villarreal 12 - 1
Werder Bremen 14 - 1
Fiorentina 14 - 1
Hamburger SV 14 - 1
Benfica 20 - 1
Bayer Leverkusen 22 - 1
Sporting Lisbon 25 - 1
PSV Eindhoven 25 - 1
Marseille 28 - 1
Getafe 28 - 1
Spartak Moscow 33 - 1
Girondins Bordeaux 33 - 1
Panathinaikos 33 - 1
Zenit St. Petersburg 40 - 1
AEK Athens 40 - 1
Galatasaray 40 - 1
Bolton Wanderers 50 - 1
Rangers 50 - 1
Nurnberg 80 - 1
Slavia Prague 80 - 1
Anderlecht 80 - 1
FC Zürich 80 - 1
FC Basel 80 - 1
Helsingborgs 100 - 1
Sporting Braga 100 - 1
Rosenborg 100 - 1
SK Brann Bergen 200 - 1
Aberdeen 300 - 1

[afeencalleddan]

looking forward to Thursday, not because it's valentine's but because Spurs have a nine o'clock kick off in pragueAre you in/going to Prague??? It's an 8pm ko Irish time.

[legend76]

Are you in/going to Prague??? It's an 8pm ko Irish time.

I had been planning to, but i'm not now

[legend76]

Cerny did a "Paul Robinson" last night. good result though

[CCOSC]

Any idea how the rest of them got on?

[legend76]

Any idea how the rest of them got on?

Wednesday February 13
Zenit St Petersburg 1 - 0 Villarreal
Galatasaray 0 - 0 Leverkusen
AEK Athens 1 - 1 Getafe C.F
SK Brann 0 - 2 Everton
Bremen 3 - 0 Braga
PSV Eindhoven 2 - 0 Helsingborgs IF
Anderlecht 2 - 1 Bordeaux
Marseille 3 - 0 Spartak Moscow
Rangers 0 - 0 Panathinaikos
Sporting 2 - 0 Basel
Thursday February 14
Aberdeen 2 - 2 Bayern
Zürich 1 - 3 Hamburg
Rosenborg BK 0 - 1 Fiorentina
Bolton Wanderers 1 - 0 Atletico de Madrid
Slavia Praha 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Benfica 1 - 0 Nuremberg

[legend76]

Bayern Munich 10 - 3
Tottenham Hotspur 13 - 2
Everton 8 - 1
Atletico Madrid 11 - 1
Werder Bremen 11 - 1
Fiorentina 14 - 1
Villarreal 14 - 1
Hamburger SV 14 - 1
Bayer Leverkusen 18 -1
Getafe 18 - 1
Benfica 18 - 1
Marseille 18 - 1
Sporting Lisbon 22 - 1
PSV Eindhoven 22 - 1
Bolton Wanderers 33 - 1
Girondins Bordeaux 33 - 1
Panathinaikos 33 - 1
Zenit St. Petersburg 40 - 1
Rangers 50 - 1
Anderlecht 66 - 1
Galatasaray 66 - 1
AEK Athens 66 - 1
Nurnberg 125 - 1
FC Basel 150 - 1
Spartak Moscow 200 - 1
Slavia Prague 200 - 1
Rosenborg 250 - 1
Aberdeen 250 - 1
Helsingborgs 350 - 1
FC Zürich 500 - 1
Sporting Braga 500 - 1
SK Brann Bergen 500 - 1

[afeencalleddan]

Tottenham: Robinson, Chimbonda, Woodgate, King, Gilberto, Lennon, Jenas, Zokora, Malbranque, Berbatov, Keane

Subs: Cerny, Lee, Tainio, Taarabt, Dawson, Huddlestone, O'Hara

PSV: Gomes, Kromkamp, Marcellis, Salcido, Alcides, Culina, Simons, Mendez, Farfan, Koevermans, Afellay

Subs: Roorda, Zonneveld, Lazovic, Rajkovic, Aissati, Dzsudzsak, Bakkal

Referee: Stephane Lannoy (France)

[afeencalleddan]

Reality biting for Spurs again. There'll be no 3 in a row for Juande, I fear. The centre of midfield just isn't crafty enough. The gamble on Gilberto has been a disaster too. Both full backs booked, not good.

[afeencalleddan]

The gap between the top teams in the Premiership and the rest summed up in 3 nights of soccer. It was all very well for Spurs in the Carling cup games against Arsenal and Chelsea where they hounded the opposition into submission but PSV just sat off them tonight and they had no answer. Not over yet but a huge task.

[legend76]

The gap between the top teams in the Premiership and the rest summed up in 3 nights of soccer. It was all very well for Spurs in the Carling cup games against Arsenal and Chelsea where they hounded the opposition into submission but PSV just sat off them tonight and they had no answer. Not over yet but a huge task.

it's a huge task alright. positive talk from Ramos today. Gilberto made a shocking mistake for the goal. one nil isn't the end of the world.

fair point about the gulf between the top 3 and the rest. Arsenal go to Milan and WIN, Spurs lose at home to PSV

[legend76]

hopefully the goal rout today will give the side some confidence ahead of a difficult away task against PSV. I'll be in Canada so I hope I get to see it

[afeencalleddan]

hopefully the goal rout today will give the side some confidence ahead of a difficult away task against PSV. I'll be in Canada so I hope I get to see itI'm not holding my breath legend. PSV are used to winning games plus they are still a champions league quality side though not as good as a couple of years ago. They got an unexpected rest today when they should have been playing Ajax because of a police strike in Holland.

I really hope Huddlestone plays from the start on wednesday. In hindsight I think it may have been a mistake not to play him the other night.

[legend76]

I'm not holding my breath legend. PSV are used to winning games plus they are still a champions league quality side though not as good as a couple of years ago. They got an unexpected rest today when they should have been playing Ajax because of a police strike in Holland.

I really hope Huddlestone plays from the start on wednesday. In hindsight I think it may have been a mistake not to play him the other night.


he did very well today. Hope he starts too, but Ramos will probably go with Jenas and Zokora

[afeencalleddan]

he did very well today. Hope he starts too, but Ramos will probably go with Jenas and ZokoraThat depends on how bad Jenas's injury from thursday night is. The game is in doubt cos of the strike.

[legend76]

That depends on how bad Jenas's injury from thursday night is. The game is in doubt cos of the strike.

I'd say he should be ok. wouldn't feel too bad though if Huddlestone pays instead

at the moment the game is still on

http://www.tottenhamhotspur .com/news/articles/psveindhovenonwednes day.html

[legend76]

lost out on penalties.


This thread will re-open next season




K.I.R.

[legend76]

Looks as if Spurs are about to sign Giovani dos Santos from Barcelona. Giovani was quoted in Sport as saying "Next season I will be playing forTottenham." Tottenham Hotspur and Barcelona are reported to have agreed an initial fee of £4.7m.

[legend76]

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[legend76]

Giovani Dos Santos has claimed that he will be playing for Tottenham next season and cited the fact that Juande Ramos being the coach as the main reason.

The 19-year-old told reporters after a friendly between Argentina and Mexico that he had agreed to move to White Hart Lane and had turned down Manchester City.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_365389 4,00.html

[RedCityKid]

I really don't understand why Barca are selling him. Especially after giving him quite a lot of football last year, in which he done very wll for a 16/17 year old. Incredible signing.. Spurs have got two exceptional young players so far this summer. Now for a couple of wily battlehardened midfielder and centreback and we will be going places. Who knows whats gonna happen with Berba but they certainly do not seem to be lining up for him. I'm not sure if that is down to the price or his attitude. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the opposite direction to giovanni though?

[legend76]

I really don't understand why Barca are selling him. Especially after giving him quite a lot of football last year, in which he done very wll for a 16/17 year old. Incredible signing.. Spurs have got two exceptional young players so far this summer. Now for a couple of wily battlehardened midfielder and centreback and we will be going places. Who knows whats gonna happen with Berba but they certainly do not seem to be lining up for him. I'm not sure if that is down to the price or his attitude. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the opposite direction to giovanni though?

Shame that Dunne seems to be staying at Man City now

[legend76]

From THFC.com http://www.tottenhamhotspur .com/uploads/assets/240x359/players/giovani_dos_santos/giovani_dos_santos_2 40.jpg

We are delighted to announce that we have reached agreement with Barcelona for the transfer of Giovani dos Santos to the Club, subject to a medical and agreeing personal terms.

The 19-year-old Mexico international made 28 senior appearances for the Catalan club last season, scoring three goals, after displaying his credentials in the B team, where he made 27 appearances and netted five times.

It was his performances playing for his country at the FIFA World Under-17 Championships in 2005 that caught the attention of the Nou Camp side. Mexico emerged as winners in Peru and Giovani was named second best player in the tournament, while he was ranked in the top three players of the FIFA World Under-20 Championship staged in Canada in 2007.

He has since been capped on five occasions by the full Mexico national team.


In other news AC Milan have expressed interest in Berbatov

[legend76]

http://www.spurs.co.uk/uploads/assets/240x359/players/giovani_dos_santos/giovani_dos_santos24 0.jpg

Giovani dos Santos has expressed his delight at joining the Club in his first interview since arriving at The Lane.

The 19-year-old Mexican international this week passed a medical and agreed terms to complete his move from Barcelona.

The versatile forward, who has five caps for his country and starred at the 2005 Under-17 World Championships and last year's Under-20 World Cup, is now full of excitement at the start of a new chapter in his career.

Giovani said: "It is a dream for me to come to a big club like Spurs. I've come here to further explore my qualities and give my all for my new team. As a young player I have come to a club where I feel there are many opportunities for me.

"I have been made to feel very welcome since arriving at Spurs and everyone has been very friendly. This is clearly a big club with a lot of ambition, and I can see it growing in the future.

"It is great to see Spurs fans wearing the shirt on the streets of London. I came here because of the passion of the fans as well as the size of the club, and I'm very much looking forward to playing in England."

Head Coach Juande Ramos, is looking forward to working with a player he is a long-term admirer of.

He said: "If Giovani progresses as we hope he will be a terrific player. This is a young player with a lot of potential, whom I have watched for some time and I am delighted he has joined the squad.

"For us it is an exciting signing because he has excellent quality, he operates well in different positions and, above all, is technically excellent."

Sporting Director Damien Comolli added: "Giovani possesses a great combination of physical power and explosivity, along with fine technical skills. He is someone who can create and score goals.

"He is young but not without experience and will be a great asset for the Club. The fact we have a Spanish speaking coaching staff, as well as Gilberto, will help him adapt, settle quickly and I believe he has the skills to be successful in England."

[legend76]

Draw on today

Spurs are Seeded in pot 7: so they will play one of the following

BV Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Wisla Kraków (POL)
FC Moskva (RUS)
FK Borac (SRB)
MŠK Žilina (SVK)

Everton just drew Standard Liege

[legend76]

St. pats play Hertha Berlin

Man city play omonia from cyprus

[legend76]

Aston Villa got PFC Litex Lovech from Bulgaria

[legend76]

Draw on today

Spurs are Seeded in pot 7: so they will play one of the following

BV Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Wisla Kraków (POL)
FC Moskva (RUS)
FK Borac (SRB)
MŠK Žilina (SVK)



Spurs got Wisla Kraków (POL)

[legend76]

'tis just a pity Malbranque isn't available to play at the moment.

Funny enough that's what Roy "the party is over" Keane is saying at the moment

Roy Keane is counting the cost of Sunderland's Carling Cup win last night with Steed Malbranque struggling to be fit for Sunday's game against Manchester City.

There were a few sore legs at the training ground this morning after the Black Cats' extra-time win over Nottingham Forest at the City Ground.

Malbranque twisted his ankle and hurt his calf in the game and was replaced in the 19th minute. The Frenchman is almost certain to miss the City game.

[legend76]

Spurs got Wisla Kraków (POL)

the most interesting fact I could find about Wisla Kraków was that former Chelski player Dan Petrescu was sacked as their manager after barely nine months in charge back in 2006.

http://images.wikia.com/x-files/images/thumb/1/1f/Fox_Mulder_in_1989.j pg/150px-Fox_Mulder_in_1989.j pg


oh and this !!! they won the first ever Chicago Trophy, beating the then UEFA cup champs Sevilla 1-0 back in July '07


http://www.thechicagotrophy .com/

[CathedralRoad]

Fairly tough supporters - place to avoid except rumours of quality fillies!!

[afeencalleddan]

Fairly tough supporters - place to avoidEspecially for those of the Jewish faith!

[legend76]

Especially for those of the Jewish faith!

not swayed by rumours of quality fillies!!

:cool:

[legend76]

Modric out, Corluka and Palyuchenko are cup tied. so Spurs sell their two strikers and replace them with one dodgy cup-tied Russian ???, great bit of business that !!!!


Game is live on setanta ireland

[legend76]

as the article below points out, defeat on Thursday could signal the end for Ramos

Spurs boss Juande Ramos brushed off fans' criticism after his side continued their winless start to the Barclays Premier League season.

More StoriesReport: Pompey down sorry Spurs
Redknapp: We don't need to sell
Tottenham remain rock bottom of the league after a 2-0 defeat at Portsmouth on Sunday, during which their fans chanted 'You don't know what you're doing' at Ramos when he replaced lone striker Roman Pavlyuchenko with Darren Bent after 73 minutes.

With just two points accrued from six games, it is clear the fans are losing patience with the Spaniard.

But Ramos said he was not hurt by the comments and insisted he does not think his job is under threat.

He said: "I speak with the chairman regularly and everybody is aware of our delicate position but we have to work hard together to change it.

"There is another game on Thursday in a different competition and the players know they must recover quickly.

"Does it hurt when the fans say those things? No, it hurts only when we cannot win games."

Defeat in the UEFA Cup against Wisla Krakow, when Spurs defend a narrow 2-1 first-leg lead in Poland, could put Ramos under unbearable pressure.

[legend76]

I watched the game yesterday. it was awful to be honest. the changes Ramos made towards to end, were scary. I have lost all faith in him

[markinmanc]

1 down to Hull. Oh dear.

[Jim Comic]

this thread should be re-named "spurs in division 2" or whatever it's gammy name is these days

[Actin The Sham]

http://i33.tinypic.com/e25h4.jpg

[legend76]

tragic stuff against Hull in fairness. Of course sod's law would have it that for the second week in a row I'd drop geovanni from my fantasy football team starting XI only for him to score.

anyhoo back to the soon to be Europa league, vicious draw for Spurs, made even thougher because Spartak won't be burdened by Palyvchenko


GROUP D: TOTTENHAM, Spartak Moscow, Udinese, Dynamo Zagreb, NEC Nijmegen

[bigboyfoolish]

all very good teams they have to play.

It will be the end of the Ramos era methinks very soon..

They are in an unenviable position every year though having to
constantly sell their best players..

[legend76]

Fixtures confirmed

Spurs will kick-off the group stages of the UEFA Cup with a trip to Italian side Udinese at the Stadio Friuli on October 23.

Based in north-east Italy, Udinese are currently joint-top of Serie A with Lazio having lost just one of their opening six fixtures. They beat Torino 2-0 at home on Sunday.

Their next match will be at home to Dinamo Zagreb on November 6 as Luka Modric faces his former club. Dinamo are top of the Croatian League with seven wins in their opening 10 fixtures, beating Osijek 1-0 on Sunday.

Spurs third match is a trip to Dutch side NEC Nijmegen at McDOS Goffertstadion on November 27. Nijmegen is in the east of the country near the German border. They are seventh in the Eredivisie after beating Feyenoord 2-0 away on Sunday.

Spurs have a bye on matchday four and complete their fixtures against Spartak Moscow at the Lane on either December 17/18, date to be confirmed. Spartak kicked-off the season in the Champions League before being knocked out by Dinamo Kiev. Spartak are currently seventh in the Russian Premier League.

So here are the fixtures...

UEFA Cup, Group D
October 23 - Udinese v Spurs
November 6 - Spurs v Dinamo Zagreb
November 27 - NEC Nijmegen v Spurs
December 17/18 - Spurs v Spartak Moscow

[markinmanc]

Why Tottenham are like the Titanic

http://timesonline.typepad. com/thegame/2008/10/why-tottenham-a.html

[legend76]

Bentley didn't even make the bench for the Udinese game. It's live on Setanta Ireland

[legend76]

disaster for Tottenham, what a howler from Gomes

[legend76]

it's going from bad to worse

[legend76]

Game over now !!!! Bent could have levelled it, but instead Udinese break and kill off Spurs with a second goal

[marco 2005]

it's going from bad to worse

2 nil down lad....bent missed from 2 meters

[REMIMUFC]

I remember when spurs were good archibald ardelis hoddle etc-fuckin hell their shite now

[dancefreak2003]

it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

[Albert J Arbuckle II]

Jol is laughing his dutch ass off .....