cheats corner

[lionelhutz]

Gotta love the way the English commentators go all silent when one of 'their' lads do, and act as if nothing even happened. Bit like they used to back in the seventies and eighties to all the monkey chants and racists songs... "Lively atmosphere here at Ellan Road today!".

Gerrard's been badly exposed as a serial diver this season. I know he's not the sharpest knife in the set, but he'd do well to keep his mouth shut in future, methinks.

to be fair to sky they give their new superstar ronaldo more than enough breathing space too. the shreeves thing was very much a one off. as i said, one of the few virtues left in the english players is being eroded. i'm disappointed in gerrard but once its for the tans it won't affect me as much

[lionelhutz]

Even the scousers have Sir Stevie Divesalot sussed for the morally bankrupt hypocrite he is.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wFNE3opjOZQ&mode=related&search=

might as well throw up a clip of a few oul fellas down the Old Reliable drinkin beamish and discussing foreign games

[STEVIEG]

facts me hole stevie. thats one quote. can you show me another?

http://portugal.worldcupblo g.org/group-d/gerrard-ronaldo-carvalho-a-disgrace.html

Quotes from his own autobiography

another article here

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/03/03/gerrard_dives_into_a _murky_gre.html

and this should seal the argument

http://soccerlens.com/diver-gerrard-is-a-hypocrite/2244513.html





He is a diver

And another quote

Steven Gerrard admits to leaping off the sofa when he sees a fellow professional conning a referee and today becomes the first A-list England player to take a stand against dishonesty. Gerrard is maturing into a statesman of the English game…it is safe to say that footballers with a conscience have found their spokesman…”I don’t think there’s anything worse than a player diving when no one’s been anywhere near him. It does ruin the game. If I saw a team-mate doing it, I would definitely have a word” - From The Daily Mail, April 1st.

[Sound]

Gerrard dives "the odd time"???????


This is a 50 page thread with bucket loads of examples of him diving

Just like Ronaldo, a player who gets fouled much more, a player who travels a lot faster and a player in my opinion, who often rides these tackles and stays on his feet

Okay, he dives a fair bit, but unlike Gerrard, he doesn't go wanking on about it hyprocritically as being a "disease", and unlike Gerrard, he get's criticsed for it all the time

That's the issue here and the facts are undeniable

In fairness now Stevie, give over.

[lionelhutz]

http://portugal.worldcupblo g.org/group-d/gerrard-ronaldo-carvalho-a-disgrace.html

Quotes from his own autobiography

thats about several portugese players 'conduct'. there was more to the rooney incident than taking a tumble

another article here

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/03/03/gerrard_dives_into_a _murky_gre.html

that a third party's opinion on gerrard diving at sheff utd. again this is one of the few incidents i see cropping up in your 'bucket' time and time again.


and this should seal the argument

http://soccerlens.com/diver-gerrard-is-a-hypocrite/2244513.html

your quoting a footie blog? ffs. again might as well throw a clip of those oul fellas in the pub drinkin beamish.





He is a diver

And another quote

Steven Gerrard admits to leaping off the sofa when he sees a fellow professional conning a referee and today becomes the first A-list England player to take a stand against dishonesty. Gerrard is maturing into a statesman of the English game…it is safe to say that footballers with a conscience have found their spokesman…”I don’t think there’s anything worse than a player diving when no one’s been anywhere near him. It does ruin the game. If I saw a team-mate doing it, I would definitely have a word” - From The Daily Mail, April 1st.

thats the same quote as the 'example' above it. c'mon now stevie kid, you should know about how the meidja works

[POL]

steve in this thread reminds me of the boy with his finger stuck in the dyke

[RonnyB]

In fairness now Stevie, give over.

He shouldnt have to . Most on here (me included) have given out about Ronaldo's antics non stop in this thread. Gerrard is a cheat as well, has given plenty of examples of his diving & gets abuse from abu's over it. He exposing a cheat and is getting and certain people cant hack it because its whiter than white Gerrard involved rather than Johnny Foreigner or someone who isn't respected because he's a scumbag.

[Sound]

He shouldnt have to . Most on here (me included) have given out about Ronaldo's antics non stop in this thread. Gerrard is a cheat as well, has given plenty of examples of his diving & gets abuse from abu's over it. He exposing a cheat and is getting and certain people cant hack it because its whiter than white Gerrard involved rather than Johnny Foreigner or someone who isn't respected because he's a scumbag.

I know you probably weren't on here at the time but you can go through this thread. Each time Gerrard has dived he's been called on it- by Pool fans. He has had some pretty blatant ones as well with Bolton last season springing immediately to mind. What he doesn't do is dive almost every chance he gets with monotonous regularity. I dont expect him to chancge but ehat I do expect is Utd fans to have the intestinal fortitude to call him for it every time and not just toe the party line.

[RonnyB]

I know you probably weren't on here at the time but you can go through this thread. Each time Gerrard has dived he's been called on it- by Pool fans. He has had some pretty blatant ones as well with Bolton last season springing immediately to mind. What he doesn't do is dive almost every chance he gets with monotonous regularity. I dont expect him to chancge but ehat I do expect is Utd fans to have the intestinal fortitude to call him for it every time and not just toe the party line.

Fair enough but I've called Ronaldo on his antics in the past especially the one at Spurs which changed a tight game into a rout.

What bugs me was Gerrard having the gaul to give about about it when he's one of the Prem's worst offenders.

I've said my piece on the matter & now I'll move on.

[STEVIEG]

What he doesn't do is dive almost every chance he gets with monotonous regularity.

He dives an awful lot

That is my point

Loads of players do


But he is the one, and that's why included the quotes, who claims he is totally disgusted by it

There have been back pages dedicated to Ronaldo when he does it, when Gerrard does it is generally brushed aside

Ronaldo doesn't dive "every chance he get's, with monotonous regularity"

That is simply untrue

[ho chi feen]

I know you probably weren't on here at the time but you can go through this thread. Each time Gerrard has dived he's been called on it- by Pool fans. He has had some pretty blatant ones as well with Bolton last season springing immediately to mind. What he doesn't do is dive almost every chance he gets with monotonous regularity. I dont expect him to chancge but ehat I do expect is Utd fans to have the intestinal fortitude to call him for it every time and not just toe the party line.

Maybe it's because he's the one who's clambered upon the moral high horse about it? At least with C Ronaldo, it's a simple case of what you see is what you get.

So many players dive these days, and I've said it before, I don't really have a huge problem with any of that. I'd sooner have theatrics than the mind-numbing borefests and tolerated barbarity that characterised too much of the game in the 1970's nad 80's. The pendelum had to swing the other way sooner or later. do
I do, however, have a huge problem with the attitude in the English media that 'our boys' don't do 'that sort of thing', turning a blind eye to Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney and Owen, and castigating the foreigner. Managers screaming blue murder when it goes against them, yet keeping shtum, or denying it when one of their players does. I can count on two fingers the amount of managers who cried foul and had the consitency to call it for what it was when it was one of their own.

And then, you have Gerrard, a man who we are all in agreement here is no stranger to taking a tumble, coming out with a stunning, irony-free platter of hypocrisy.

FFS.

[Sound]

Maybe it's because he's the one who's clambered upon the moral high horse about it? At least with C Ronaldo, it's a simple case of what you see is what you get.


It isn't really though, is it? Only a fortnight ago Fergie was out saying that he wasn't a diver and he was the most fouled player in the league.

[ho chi feen]

It isn't really though, is it? Only a fortnight ago Fergie was out saying that he wasn't a diver and he was the most fouled player in the league.

I can't remember him ever denying diving, and I can't remember ever seeing him launch a campaign against 'the divers'. Can you?

[STEVIEG]

It isn't really though, is it? Only a fortnight ago Fergie was out saying that he wasn't a diver and he was the most fouled player in the league.

He is a diver-Fergie was complaining about how he is being singled out

And he is the most fouled player in the league

Noone is saying he is not a diver, this is a bit like the Shay Given thread all over again

[STEVIEG]

I can't remember him ever denying diving, and I can't remember ever seeing him launch a campaign against 'the divers'. Can you?


In fairness, Fergie has given out about diving a few times and with Ronaldo in the team, it has sounded hypocritical at times

Edit-If you mean Ronaldo, not Fergie, that is different and I take your point

[ho chi feen]

In fairness, Fergie has given out about diving a few times and with Ronaldo in the team, it has sounded hypocritical at times

Edit-If you mean Ronaldo, not Fergie, that is different and I take your point

I'm talking Ronaldo.

[STEVIEG]

I'm talking Ronaldo.

Like Ronaldo speak?

Kinda broken English with the odd "maybe i'm too good thrown in"

I like it

[ho chi feen]

Like Ronaldo speak?

Kinda broken English with the odd "maybe i'm too good thrown in"

I like it

Rooooooooooonnnnaldo oooooooous! É demasiado bom! É demasiado bom! Gole! Gole Rooooooooooonnnnaldo oooooooooooooooo!

[homer jay]

i have to agree with stevie to a point here lads. c ronaldo and gerrard do dive, ronaldo a lot more than gerrard imo. but it is highly hypocritical of gerrard to say what he said and then continue to go down easier than a whore. he should cut out the diving and cut out the gobbing off.

[HappyMonday83]

http://www.voetbalstats.nl/nedxi/foto/533.jpg

[Actin The Sham]

The SFI without Lamps is like the Jimi Hendrix Experience without Jimi Hendrix

They are the ultimate one man team:)

No disrespect meant to Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell

Stop showing off.....


(and reminding us how lucky we are that you're on a Cork station, play a bit of it or BB King tomorrow night)

;)

[HappyMonday83]

Paying the cost to be the boss.

Take that women back in yer box.

[lionelhutz]

i have to agree with stevie to a point here lads. c ronaldo and gerrard do dive, ronaldo a lot more than gerrard imo. but it is highly hypocritical of gerrard to say what he said and then continue to go down easier than a whore. he should cut out the diving and cut out the gobbing off.

i don't think anyone is disagreeing that those comments are hypocritical but trying to convey an image of gerrard spearheading a movement criticising diving while at the same time being as guilty as someone like ronaldo of diving is greatly exaggerating things. a few isolated clips have shown gerrard diving. as far as i can see there are two short quotes from gerrard speaking out against diving. my point, and i have watch ronaldo as often as gerrard, is that the former is guilty of diving, playacting/simulation in every game whereas gerrard generally gets stuck in and gets on with things, having of course been guilty of a few dives on a few occasions. added to ronaldos consistent diving, the whinging, the throwing his arms up in the air when he doesn't get a free and the general arrogant carry on just makes him a far more odious character in my opinion. my dislike of the git does not cloud my judgment whatsoever. henry has been guilty of being a similar type and i can understand why but if there was ever a player knockin around in the last few years that could say "maybe im just too good" (for the premiership anyway) then its him. certainly not ronaldo whose ability to believe his own press seem to be the only thing that can outstrip his antics on the field.

[STEVIEG]

Think you are being a bit harsh on Ronaldo

The comment was tongue-in-cheek and he is not THAT arrogant, not that i have a problem with the arrogance he has got

Anyway, let's move on

[ho chi feen]

Paying the cost to be the boss.

Take that women back in yer box.

Go away, wind-up man.

[STEVIEG]

http://i7.tinypic.com/4g7ylmx.jpg

[kevinbitzz]

http://i7.tinypic.com/4g7ylmx.jpg

:D

[STEVIEG]

Robben looks like he is getting ready to take the title

[Forsberg]

Lampards looks eerily realistic

[STEVIEG]

This photo could have saved us over 50 pages of grief:)

[Forsberg]

Another ridiculous dive from Guti . Ref spotted it and booked him . Two minutes later he was sent off for dissent . Good stuff referee

[lionelhutz]

This photo could have saved us over 50 pages of grief:)

got to a tv about a minute before scholes equalised against blackburn. a few minutes later ronaldo takes a dive on the edge of the box, dangerous free kick and nearly score.

now he played very well in the second half, against an awful blackburn defence. had the full back in is pocket. why does he need to dive then if hes too good?

as i said, EVERY game he dives.

[Forsberg]

got to a tv about a minute before scholes equalised against blackburn. a few minutes later ronaldo takes a dive on the edge of the box, dangerous free kick and nearly score.

now he played very well in the second half, against an awful blackburn defence. had the full back in is pocket. why does he need to dive then if hes too good?

as i said, EVERY game he dives.

Shockingly though, he did stay on his feet on one occasion after one heavy challenge where could have easily gone down. It porbably would have been a pen as well . Great save from Friedel from the resulting effort

[RonnyB]

Have to mention Benny McCarthy's rolling around the ground looking to have the ball put out of play when United were attacking then getting up running at the United defence when Blackburn regained possession.

[lionelhutz]

Shockingly though, he did stay on his feet on one occasion after one heavy challenge where could have easily gone down. It porbably would have been a pen as well . Great save from Friedel from the resulting effort

ya, beglin wasn't the only one who was "surprised" ronaldo stayed on his feet. it says it all when commentators expect certain players to go down rather than stay on their feet. heavy challenge me fuck.

[Roman Abramovich]

see gerrard after diabys tackle? gerrard stands on diabys foot and then throws himself back in a platoon motion.

[Roman Abramovich]

Another ridiculous dive from Guti . Ref spotted it and booked him . Two minutes later he was sent off for dissent . Good stuff referee

id really have to see that again. i think guti clipped his own leg and lost balance. i was half watching the game half reading me arsenal mag....half waiting for the seville game.

yes thats 3 halfs.

[homer jay]

see gerrard after diabys tackle? gerrard stands on diabys foot and then throws himself back in a platoon motion.

i saw that alright, looked very sus.

anyway, take your beating will ya :)

[STEVIEG]

ya, beglin wasn't the only one who was "surprised" ronaldo stayed on his feet. it says it all when commentators expect certain players to go down rather than stay on their feet. heavy challenge me fuck.

Ronaldo stays on his feet a lot more lately because he knows he has the beating of most Premierhsip defenders

I saw him dive with my own two eyes against Lille at the game i was over at a few weeks ago and he got deservedly booked for it

He still dives, as do most of the people we have mentioned, but he doesn't dive non-stop, that incident in the box on Saturday was typical of many challenges he has rode lately

[ho chi feen]

see gerrard after diabys tackle? gerrard stands on diabys foot and then throws himself back in a platoon motion.

Platoon, you say?

Sounds about right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prcxxr4bJ3E

:)

[lionelhutz]

Ronaldo stays on his feet a lot more lately because he knows he has the beating of most Premierhsip defenders

I saw him dive with my own two eyes against Lille at the game i was over at a few weeks ago and he got deservedly booked for it

He still dives, as do most of the people we have mentioned, but he doesn't dive non-stop, that incident in the box on Saturday was typical of many challenges he has rode lately

as i said, every game. trust me.

btw "rode", "heavy challenge" ffs the game/people watchin the game have gone to shit

[FL4ZGN]

Russian ref awarding that Penalty to Kaka in the second half.

Fair enough he got the decision in the first half correct when it looked like a stone waller but the decision in the second half was a disgrace.

You wouldnt even see that given at Old Trafford.

[Paddy Wagon]

That referee was a clown christ some of his decisions were comical/dangerous (game could have easily boiled over), christ even the Ozzie commentator could see that... and this commentator knows as much about the sport as my i-pod does..

[Roman Abramovich]

i refrain from calling ronaldo a cheat if you note. i dont bicker about him because unlike previous this year the guy has been world class. Last night they kicked him, bumped him and pushed him for the goal, and 3 other dribbles he went on. he ducked bumped and kept running when he could have easily went to ground. fair dues.

Having said that he did spoil it a bit then by diving out on the left wing when a guy went to tug on his arm. all he was short was the splash. the guy got booked for it.

If hes got that much talent why sully it by doing this petty crap?
the utd goal was all about his play. he done it two or three more times. See the challenge where two of them pole axed him from behind but he stummbled up and attacked and rode a few more challenges. fuckin awesome stuff from him this season. i hope he pushes on next season and doesnt go backwards. (which could very easily happen)

[RonnyB]

Perrotta got a yellow card for diving in the box last night. He was a fairly lucky boy that Heinze didnt connect with a air kick between his legs but there was no contact & a deserved booking.

Lionel you make a fairly accurate point with regards to Ronaldo diving in every game.

[lionelhutz]

.

Lionel you make a fairly accurate point with regards to Ronaldo diving in every game.

hes the type of player i would love watching were it not for his antics.
still has a long way to go to be a world class player but i think all of the bullshit surrounding him will take its toll.

on wingers, thought joaquin did well last night. hope he can get back to his best.

[RonnyB]

Think the ref in the Spurs Seville game is worth a mention. Shocking decision to give the penalty.

[ho chi feen]

Think the ref in the Spurs Seville game is worth a mention. Shocking decision to give the penalty.

Yeah. Booking for the Korean lad for Spurs was a joke too. I didn't realise tackling had been outlawed.

[STEVIEG]

Yup He was poor


I never really like to blame refs and United lost deservedly the other night but i thought he wasn't the best, the same ref was in charge for United's recent exits to Porto (Not deserved) and Milan (deserved) so i hope that's not an omen

[RonnyB]

Yup He was poor


I never really like to blame refs and United lost deservedly the other night but i thought he wasn't the best, the same ref was in charge for United's recent exits to Porto (Not deserved) and Milan (deserved) so i hope that's not an omen

Well it was his blind linesman that cost United against Porto with Scholes' 2nd just before half time at OT.

I know this has probably been done over & over but I reckon that error was the most costly in United history. Porto went on to win the thing against poor enough opponants along the way (Depor were a spent force & better Lyon were disposed of less than 12 months later by a worse United side). Jose became the Special One as a result and Chelsea benefitted greatly possibly costing United a few trophies.

[STEVIEG]

Well it was his blind linesman that cost United against Porto with Scholes' 2nd just before half time at OT.

I know this has probably been done over & over but I reckon that error was the most costly in United history. Porto went on to win the thing against poor enough opponants along the way (Depor were a spent force & better Lyon were disposed of less than 12 months later by a worse United side). Jose became the Special One as a result and Chelsea benefitted greatly possibly costing United a few trophies.

Agreed, it was a shocking decision


Other similarities with that tie are a stupid but deserved sending off of one of Uniteds main players in the away leg (Roy Keane), a 2-1 loss away and a dodgily parried goalkeeping error (Portos crucial goal at O.T. was so similar to the one the other night)

[RonnyB]

Agreed, it was a shocking decision


Other similarities with that tie are a stupid but deserved sending off of one of Uniteds main players in the away leg (Roy Keane), a 2-1 loss away and a dodgily parried goalkeeping error (Portos crucial goal at O.T. was so similar to the one the other night)

On the parried efforts dont forget Quinton Fortune scored in Porto in similar circumstances after Scholes' free kick.

[ho chi feen]

Well it was his blind linesman that cost United against Porto with Scholes' 2nd just before half time at OT.

Yup, the same trio ref'd the quarter final first leg that year between Milan & Depor. I can remember Inzaghi being called offside on about 8 occasions after he came on, 6 of which were shown to be quite clearly onside in the replays.

[STEVIEG]

On the parried efforts dont forget Quinton Fortune scored in Porto in similar circumstances after Scholes' free kick.

And Roy Carroll against Milan:(

[Langer Dan]

And Roy Carroll against Milan:(

who could forget Barthez' night to forget agaisnt Madrid, three years running goalkeeping errors put united out of the competition, thank christ for Edwin. Not much he coulda done about either goal tbh, but he was fairly solid othewise on the night , held a lot of difficult ball.

We could be looking a a far more daunting scoreline if it wernt for him.

[STEVIEG]

thank christ for Edwin. Not much he coulda done about either goal tbh, but he was fairly solid othewise on the night , held a lot of difficult ball.

We could be looking a a far more daunting scoreline if it wernt for him.

Yup, he rarely makes mistakes and 9 times out of the ten the player following that ball in would missed it great finish really

VDS looked a bit shaky at kick outs at the start of the match but he is the main man and ive full confidence in him

[Langer Dan]

Yup, he rarely makes mistakes and 9 times out of the ten the player following that ball in would missed it great finish really

VDS looked a bit shaky at kick outs at the start of the match but he is the main man and ive full confidence in him

hes been class this season inf airness, for my money hes one of the main reasons we're sitting pretty at the top of the table.

The away goal is vital, at least now we know exactly what we have to do to progress. If we are incapable of beating Roma 1-0 at home then we've no business in the competition.

[lionelhutz]

Ronaldo stays on his feet a lot more lately because he knows he has the beating of most Premierhsip defenders

I saw him dive with my own two eyes against Lille at the game i was over at a few weeks ago and he got deservedly booked for it

He still dives, as do most of the people we have mentioned, but he doesn't dive non-stop, that incident in the box on Saturday was typical of many challenges he has rode lately

4 dives in the first 45 minutesv pompey. lauren got booked unfairly, arguably because of ronis antics

[STEVIEG]

4 dives in the first 45 minutesv pompey. lauren got booked unfairly, arguably because of ronis antics

Ref was very poor Ronaldo was kicked all over the pitch and he did fuck all really

[lionelhutz]

Ref was very poor Ronaldo was kicked all over the pitch and he did fuck all really

ahh stop stevie will ya. overall the ref had a very good game for once. its a contact sport man. acrobatic falls/dives when feeling the slightest contact is not being "kicked all over the pitch". there wasn't a bad challenge in the match.

[STEVIEG]

ahh stop stevie will ya. overall the ref had a very good game for once. its a contact sport man. acrobatic falls/dives when feeling the slightest contact is not being "kicked all over the pitch". there wasn't a bad challenge in the match.

They don't have to be bad-he was repeatedly obstructed and lost momentum because of it-anyway, thats the way it goes the ref today was at least more balanced than that on Wednesday and United deserved to lose in my opinion so I've no major complaints

[lionelhutz]

lost momentum because of it

= gave up without trying and had a whinge at the ref

[Forsberg]

Actually I have to give a bit of credit to Gabby Heinze . He was given at least two pretty sore looking kicks today and he didn't even flinch . He played on to the whislte . No whinging or feigning injury .

He's part of a dying breed though

[legend76]

Surprised no one gave a shout out to this fella, Adriano of Sevilla, while he didn't 'cheat' for the penalty (that was the ref's error) some of his dives later in the game were beyond believe, especially one towards the end

http://www.sevillafc.es/fotos/adriano.jpg

[lionelhutz]

Actually I have to give a bit of credit to Gabby Heinze . He was given at least two pretty sore looking kicks today and he didn't even flinch . He played on to the whislte . No whinging or feigning injury .

He's part of a dying breed though

ya, he gave o neill(?) a nice elbow in the gob as well. dying breed alright

[STEVIEG]

ya, he gave o neill(?)

Good call

Pathetic dive against the mighty Watford yesterday by O'Neill

[ho chi feen]

Our good friend Zokora on '49, just before the penalty shout (might have influenced the referee's call on that), and later on too.

[lionelhutz]

Our good friend Zokora on '49, just before the penalty shout (might have influenced the referee's call on that), and later on too.

hes one of the more odious ones alright. hes a caant

[homer jay]

a couple of nice dives by messrs rosicky and eboue in the lead up to both arsenal goals saturday.

[STEVIEG]

Paula Ferrera (sp)

Jose Mari (Sp) for Villareal

[lionelhutz]

Jose Mari (Sp) for Villareal

that fucker is always at it. didn't see the incident but can only imagine

[ho chi feen]

Gerrard, Ronaldo, Drogba, Adriano, Cole, Gilardino, Robben... eat your hearts out!

O0w4vlJvc6o

[STEVIEG]

Classic!!!!!!

[Loftydog]

Legend!

[Edmund Blackwater]

Phil neville.

[homer jay]

bump

http://i17.tinypic.com/4xolx7p.jpg

[Forsberg]

bump

http://i17.tinypic.com/4xolx7p.jpg

That was pathtic alright .

[homer jay]

bump

http://i14.tinypic.com/4v4b6kn.jpg

[STEVIEG]

Can't believe so many people bought the Drogba has "cut it all out" rubbish

Looked for free's all night tonight and feigned injury, dived all over the place and looked marginalised

To his credit he kept going and was unfortunate to be upfront on his own, but he looked limited tonight when well marshalled

[homer jay]

http://i16.tinypic.com/6gjb247.jpg

[ebenezer]

Mike Dean, referee at Old Trafford yesterday :

a) Sending off was totally unjustified

b) Played an excessive amount of unwarranted injury time in first half resulting in the vital first goal.

Probably more cheating by Mr.Dean in the second half but I honestly fell asleep as I do watching most of the boring Premier League games.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Anderson & Evra.

[RonnyB]

The PROC for removing some quality SF discussion.

[KolaKubes]

The Everton and Arsenal game tonight had some of the most cuntish actions I've seen in a long time.

Diving from Neville and Lescott, Fabregas going down like he was shot, Bendtner's horror tackle on Johnson.

A plague on all their houses.

[Forsberg]

The Everton and Arsenal game tonight had some of the most cuntish actions I've seen in a long time.

Diving from Neville and Lescott, Fabregas going down like he was shot, Bendtner's horror tackle on Johnson.

A plague on all their houses.

Don't forget Arteta's disgraceful dive on the byline when he'd created space for himself

[KolaKubes]

Don't forget Arteta's disgraceful dive on the byline when he'd created space for himself

Indeed.

And Yakubu's dive first half when if he'd stayed on his feet he was still one on one with Touré.

It's all horrible.

I think the refs should just start handing out yellow cards every time they think a player is trying to con them.

Sure, they'll get a few players in the wrong but it'll be worth it.

[st finnbar]

adebayor diving like a cunt today, well deserved yellow, and how utd are made out be the dirty team in these fixtures i dont know

[VzN]

because they are?

[KolaKubes]

Ahem.

Adebayor fists the ball to the net in a title decider?

I know it's against Utd but, still, not very nice carry on.

[ho chi feen]

Ahem.

Adebayor fists the ball to the net in a title decider?

I know it's against Utd but, still, not very nice carry on.

Ahra, I'd leave him off. We'd all do that if we could get away with it. His tackle was another matter.

Now Stevie Me, on the other hand, was a very naughty boy yesterday.

[Centurion]

Ahem.

Adebayor fists the ball to the net in a title decider?

I know it's against Utd but, still, not very nice carry on.

is there a vid of this somewhere so i can look at it again properly?

[RonnyB]

Fernado Torres has done a few naughty things recently as well. His diving at the Emirates was a joke.

[ho chi feen]

High time this little beaut got an airing again:

uVb2gbMtN3I

[rockyoc]

there we another couple of classic dives by "Stevie G" yesterday. the man's an embarrassment to himself.

[Maw Maw]

there we another couple of classic dives by "Stevie G" yesterday. the man's an embarrassment to himself.

Probably gets it from Watching Ronaldo.

[ho chi feen]

Probably gets it from Watching Ronaldo.

Nope, I've never heard Ronaldo coming about complaining about 'diving', 'foreigners' and 'cheats', before going out the very next day diving, and cheating.

Stevie MBE is in a select group of one on this issue.

Keep fighting the good fight, Stevie!

[keanos dog]

Nope, I've never heard Ronaldo coming about complaining about 'diving', 'foreigners' and 'cheats', before going out the very next day diving, and cheating.

Stevie MBE is in a select group of one on this issue.

Keep fighting the good fight, Stevie!

aye. a hypocrite of the highest order.

[ho chi feen]

aye. a hypocrite of the highest order.

I just think he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the set. Probably has the attention span of a goldfish.

[KolaKubes]

Yerra, Stevie G's diving is barely worthy of comment these days.

I just thought poor put upon and super unlucky Arsenal might have counted their blessings that they got away with palming the ball into the net.

Particularly in a country where they still remember one of the world's greatest players as a cheat for a similar handball.

[lionelhutz]

there we another couple of classic dives by "Stevie G" yesterday. the man's an embarrassment to himself.

there was one dive. one of those trailing leg ones that wrongnaldo has perfected. bad form alright.

[keanos dog]

there was one dive. one of those trailing leg ones that wrongnaldo has perfected. bad form alright.

may i direct your attention to ho chi's post above?

[lionelhutz]

may i direct your attention to ho chi's post above?

bumslap?

[Philby]

Eboue enters the ref's notebook once again for taking a tumble in the box

[xvis]

Mr Steven Gerrard ...take a bow son!

Exhibit number 246.



A dive so blatant it was the only decision Mike Riley got right at the weekend.


It was emabarrasing, ..even Ronaldo hasn't had a dive since about 2006..

Himself and messi used to both do bad things, ..but not anymore..



***

And if anyone's interested in anything other than ABU stuff, ...Newcastle at the weekend.

Mr Duff and Mr Taylor ..take a couple of bows sons.

[Coin]

It was emabarrasing, ..even Ronaldo hasn't had a dive since about 2006..

I won't deny for a second that Gerrard dives, but come on, that's just a lie.

[Maw Maw]

i'd class Newcastle's penalty against Sunderland last weekend as one of the worse i've ever come across. crazy decision

[Lapsy Pa]

Mr Steven Gerrard ...take a bow son!

Exhibit number 246.



A dive so blatant it was the only decision Mike Riley got right at the weekend.


It was emabarrasing, ..even Ronaldo hasn't had a dive since about 2006..

Himself and messi used to both do bad things, ..but not anymore..



***

And if anyone's interested in anything other than ABU stuff, ...Newcastle at the weekend.

Mr Duff and Mr Taylor ..take a couple of bows sons.

Messi doesn't dive.

[EL TORO]

Gerrard caught out at the weekend, nothing in the press about the goldenboy and his cheating ways.

Ronaldo although not guilty of it lately has some serious issues with staying upright.

Our own Anichebe is a diving twat and will hopefully not be around Goodison for much longer.

Mascherano is a lovely specimen when it comes to the dark arts of flouncing about too, his card gesturing is a disgrace.

[STEVIEG]

Do people in Liverpool who read the Echo only follow Liverpool or is it meant to be balanced!:)

http://www.liverpoolecho.co .uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/02/02/liverpool-2-chelsea-0-fernando-torres-late-show-brings-new-belief-100252-22834713/3/

"Chelsea had already played 27 minutes with ten men by the time Torres opened the scoring, with Frank Lampard having been dismissed for a challenge on Alonso.

On first viewing it looked like referee Mike Riley had got it wrong and replays did nothing to dispel the notion, but maybe the Leeds official is just slow on the uptake because he should have sent Lampard off four years ago for breaking Alonso's ankle.

Justice isn't always instant and any sense of grievance that Chelsea are nursing today should be put into context by the fact that on that occasion Liverpool had to do without the services of Alonso for three weeks while this time Lampard will only be out for three games."















At least Riley booked him for the dive

He showed no balls when ignoring his over-the-top tackle a few mins before the Lampard one and gave Gerrard the benefit of the doubt too when he lashed the ball at Bosingwa

[the puerto rican feen]

Lance Armstrong

[youghalboi]

He showed no balls when ignoring his over-the-top tackle a few mins before the Lampard one and gave Gerrard the benefit of the doubt too when he lashed the ball at Bosingwa

I think what saved Gerrard was the reaction ( or lack of) of Obi Mikel I think it was. Had he reacted in the way Gerrard did later on in the game then Gerrard might well have been sent off too

[xvis]

Messi doesn't dive.

Never said he did. He used to do bad things.

..spit at opponents, score goals with his hands.



But not anymore. That was 18 months ago.

That's in the past, ..people make mistakes when they're young.




ditto Ronaldo.


I won't deny for a second that Gerrard dives, but come on, that's just a lie.

I'd like to see a list of any dives from Ronaldo comparable to the one Gerrard did on Sunday from the last 18-24 months.

There won't be a lot, if any. ..Granted he still goes done easy in a challenge, ..but the outragous stuff ala Gerrard has been pretty much wiped out with a good while.


And before anyone says, he didn't even appeal at home to Bolton, ..that was yet another referee error.

And Middlesboro away was a penalty, ..and may not even fit the time frame.

[lionelhutz]

Never said he did. He used to do bad things.

..spit at opponents, score goals with his hands.



But not anymore. That was 18 months ago.

That's in the past, ..people make mistakes when they're young.




ditto Ronaldo.




I'd like to see a list of any dives from Ronaldo comparable to the one Gerrard did on Sunday from the last 18-24 months.

There won't be a lot, if any. ..Granted he still goes done easy in a challenge, ..but the outragous stuff ala Gerrard has been pretty much wiped out with a good while.


And before anyone says, he didn't even appeal at home to Bolton, ..that was yet another referee error.

And Middlesboro away was a penalty, ..and may not even fit the time frame.

oh god. housewife, heh heh heh

[Philby]

Do people in Liverpool who read the Echo only follow Liverpool or is it meant to be balanced!:)

http://www.liverpoolecho.co .uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/02/02/liverpool-2-chelsea-0-fernando-torres-late-show-brings-new-belief-100252-22834713/3/

"Chelsea had already played 27 minutes with ten men by the time Torres opened the scoring, with Frank Lampard having been dismissed for a challenge on Alonso.

On first viewing it looked like referee Mike Riley had got it wrong and replays did nothing to dispel the notion, but maybe the Leeds official is just slow on the uptake because he should have sent Lampard off four years ago for breaking Alonso's ankle.

Justice isn't always instant and any sense of grievance that Chelsea are nursing today should be put into context by the fact that on that occasion Liverpool had to do without the services of Alonso for three weeks while this time Lampard will only be out for three games."


...or is it even supposed to be accurate? I'm pretty sure Alonso was out for 3 month not 3 weeks after that tackle.

This article was taken from the "Liverpool FC" section of the site so I wouldn't be holding out too much hope for it being overly non-partisan. In years gone by the club have used the paper as an unofficial mouthpiece to get stories (not always true ones I'd imagine) into the press when they couldn't be seen to be talking about them publicly.

[Philby]

Here's a more balanced match report from the same site, the other one seems to be leaning more towards a red-biased opinion piece.

Liverpool 2 Chelsea 0

Feb 1 2009 By David Prentice (http://www.liverpoolecho.co .uk/authors/david-prentice/) at Anfield

FERNANDO TORRES revived Liverpool’s Premier League title hopes with an 88th minute header and a 93rd minute clincher at Anfield this afternoon.
The Spanish striker, controversially substituted 20 minutes from the end at Wigan in midweek, connected with a classic near post header from an excellent Aurelio cross just two minutes from time.
The in time added on he slotted his second after Yossi Benayoun had been dispossessed by Ashley Cole.
But much of the post-match focus will fall on referee Mike Riley who harshly sent off Frank Lampard after an hour.
The Chelsea midfielder clearly played the ball in a tackle on Xabi Alonso.
His momentum then sent the Spaniard sprawling, but while Lampard’s studs were raised it seemed that the well placed Riley had dropped a costly clanger.
Not that Liverpool minded. Torres’ first League strikes since October gave Livepool a double over their London rivals and hope that their title push could be revived.
A predictably tight and suffocating first 45 minutes yielded just two corner kicks and a handful of shots at goal.
The likeliest to produce a goal came from Liverpool. Xabi Alonso’s dipping 25-yarder was sneaking under the crossbar until Petr Cech stretched his giant frame to paw the ball over.
Javier Mascherano’s equally long-range effort was spilled by Cech, but there were groans from the home crowd as no Reds striker was anywhere near the six yard box to take advantage.
Then four minutes before the break Albert Riera’s angled drive from 20 yards was pushed out again by Cech, this time onto the knees of the unwitting Ashley Cole. The home fans were denied one of the most popular goals Anfield had witnessed in a long time when the rebound dribbled inches the wrong side of the post.
Liverpool forced the pace again at the start of the second half, but an Alvaro Arbeloa shot saved at the near post by Cech was the closest they came until Mike Riley changed the entire complexion of the match.
Lampard was undeniably showing his studs when he slid in on Xabi Alonso, but just as undeniable was the fact that those studs made contact with the ball before his momentum sent the Spaniard sprawling.
The referee was perfectly placed, but he clearly got the decision wrong.
Chelsea’s ire was even more understandable, given that Steven Gerrard had escaped with the concession of just a free-kick minutes earlier for a more reckless lunge on Kalou.
With a man advantage and the crowd baying, Liverpool began to pour forward in numbers, but again nothing clearcut was created.
In the 67th minute Alonso’s 20-yard drive ballooned off Alex, looped over Cech and slapped against the Chelsea crossbar, the goalkeeper pushing the rebound behind for a corner.
Minutes later Liverpool claimed a penalty when Gerrard spectacularly tumbled on the edge of the penalty area, but Riley ruled against the Reds skipper and booked him for simulation.
The corner count dramatically escalated in Liverpool’s favour, as Chelsea introduced Drogba and Deco in a bid to stem the flow, but while Chelsea’s defending was occasionally frantic, there were still no clear chances to speak of.
Substitute Yossi Benayoun produced a thrilling full length save from Cech 11 minutes from time, then three minutes later exploded a venomous volley which dipped onto the roof of the net.
With 10 minutes remaining Rafa Benitez made the kind of ambitious substitution the home fans have been calling for for weeks, replacing defensive midfielder Mascherano with the erratic but adventurous Ryan Babel and the Dutchman drilled a shot wide of the target within minutes of his introduction.
Just as the 10-men looked to have ground out a draw, Torres struck. Aurelio’s cross from the left touchline was inviting, but Torres’ header was clinical.
Referee Riley added five further minutes of added time, and that was just enough for Torres to wrap up the points.
Yossi Benayoun looked like he might score himself as he raced into Chelsea’s exposed penalty area, but Cole recovered to slide the ball away from him.
The ball ran to Torres, however, and he had a simple finish to seal the match.

LIVERPOOL (4-2-3-1): Reina; Arbeloa, Carragher, Skrtel, Aurelio; Mascherano (Babel 80), Alonso; Kuyt, Gerrard, Riera (Benayoun 73); Torres (Ngog 94). Unused substitutes: Cavalieri, Dossena, Agger, Lucas.
CHELSEA (4-4-2): Cech; Bosingwa, Terry, Alex, Cole; Mikel, Lampard, Ballack, Malouda (Deco 69); Kalou (Stoch 84), Anelka (Drogba 69). Unused substitutes: Hilario, Ivanovic, Ferreira, Mancienne.

Referee: Mike Riley.
Bookings: Mascherano (19mins), Cole (21), Alonso (45), Mikel (52), Terry (59), Gerrard (70).
Sending-off: Lampard (59 mins).

http://www.liverpoolecho.co .uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/02/01/liverpool-2-chelsea-0-100252-22831809/

[duffer31]

there are far to many "cheats" as ye call them in all codes and teams for anyone to hold the high moral ground here but ye have them all anyway. as for who is worse i don't think that matters either. "whether a thief big or a thief small, a thief nonetheless". i personally think it's gamesmanship and no worse than timewasting or imitation card waving or pretending to be injured to get someone booked/sent off especially after a tap n the face. its modern day football for you. you dont have to like it but you do have to suffer it. what bugs me is it would be easy to stamp it all out with a straight red and 5 match ban for simulation offences. you will see ronaldo and gerrard stay upright then.

[psy93]

David Ngog


FACT

[STEVIEG]

http://i38.tinypic.com/mb688m.gif

[Hitler]

Self confessed cheats - Donal Og admitted to swapping sliotars.
The Rock also stuck a sliotar down his jocks when he was swapping it.

[Philby]

Swapping sliotars?

Is that prison slang?

[marco 2005]

Liverpool players are so shite they can't even dive properly

[STEVIEG]

First of all-i'm not a Manc

Second of all, i'm calling it like I see it

Henry deserves to get criticised as much as Ronaldo, because he too has cheated-Simple as.........


Arsenal are a team we are told has got class in abundance all the time

I beg to differ

Their reactions from everything to scoring goals, from opposition missing peno's to the simple diving that other teams do too suggest they are not the angels they are made out to be

Once a cheat, always a cheat

[STEVIEG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI3uOFu8-WM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48KxomccYNU

Sick of hearing about Ronaldo when 'upstanding' players like Henry dont even get a mention when they dive. Henry is just as bad as anyone mentioned. Its just part of the game now, even if it is shit

So many people defended the cheater in this thread

The only reason France got to the last World Cup final was because of his dive against Portugal (okay, they are cheating cunts too)

The only reason France got the World Cup was because of his cheating once again

[BlueSkies]

Ah fuck it, I blame the officials more so than Henry. If Robbie Keane had done the same thing and we scored from it I doubt I'd be so quick to label him a cheat.

[STEVIEG]

Ah fuck it, I blame the officials more so than Henry. If Robbie Keane had done the same thing and we scored from it I doubt I'd be so quick to label him a cheat.

Yeah should have defo been spotted

[afeencalleddan]

Ah fuck it, I blame the officials more so than Henry. If Robbie Keane had done the same thing and we scored from it I doubt I'd be so quick to label him a cheat.Spot on. There's a big difference between handling the ball like Henry did tonight and diving.

It's instinctive for a footballer to keep the ball under control when it's flying around in front of him. Diving, however, is not instinctive.

[BlueSkies]

I was screaming at McShane to get it away. What was he thinking?

[STEVIEG]

I thought the ref was good

Good result for Platini and Blatter but the ref was pretty strong

[TonyCork80]

FFS He'd never have gotten another champions league game off platini again if france had been beaten! Seriously though, he got a lot of the big decisions spot on but at least 3 serious errors for the goal. 2 handballs and 1 offside.

[POL]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs025.snc3/11264_178822768491_7 74608491_2999483_501 1120_n.jpg

[STEVIEG]

heh heh heh

[Dennis Pennis]

How can Henry sleep at night:?:

on top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies

[Langer Dan]

Just like McBain.

[Dennis Pennis]

How can Henry sleep at night:?:

on top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies

Just like McBain.

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[STEVIEG]

Anelkas dive was very poor tbh

Should have been booked

[KD Langer]

Anelkas dive was very poor tbh

Should have been booked

can't understand wy he did it. the goal was gaping. he was more or less past given.

[Aphex]

I haven't seen the likes of Henry's carry-on since the Chicago Bulls...

[Kerryman36]

Spot on. There's a big difference between handling the ball like Henry did tonight and diving.

It's instinctive for a footballer to keep the ball under control when it's flying around in front of him. Diving, however, is not instinctive.

Instinctive!! It's instinctive to stick up a hand and take it down again. Henry could've taken a hop and solo he had it in his hands as long. Fucking cheating prick

[midletonman]

I thought the ref was good

Good result for Platini and Blatter but the ref was pretty strong

the penalty decision was spot on alright, thought he was good but one bad decision can swing a game and he did it.

[STEVIEG]

the penalty decision was spot on alright, thought he was good but one bad decision can swing a game and he did it.

yup

That's the problem with not using technology

[Aphex]

They would have smoked us in a penalty shoot-out anyway lads IMO...

[DogTheLangerHunter]

What's the upside to human error?

It's scandalous.

They would have smoked us in a penalty shoot-out anyway lads IMO...

Aye, but fuck at least we would have deserved to lose then.

[3pointplay]

I haven't seen the likes of Henry's carry-on since the Chicago Bulls...

If it had been a basketball game he would have been called on the double dribble.

[Philby]

Scouse double

http://vodpod.com/watch/2686033-wayne-rooney-dives-vs-aston-villa

http://www.whoateallthepies .tv/blackburn_rovers/11966/did-steven-gerrard-dive-against-blackburn-with-video-evidence.html