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liam2me
03-09-2006, 11:44 PM
West Ham on the up - Joorabchian
Kia Joorabchian, who has been linked with a multi-million pound takeover of West Ham, believes the club can become the biggest in England by 2013.
Joorabchian helped bring Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano to Upton Park.
He is a friend of Georgian businessman Badri Patarkatsishvili, who has confirmed his interest in the club.
Joorabchian told the News of the World: "In the near future West Ham can be bigger than Chelsea and maybe in seven years challenge Manchester United."
He added: "Their manager Alan Pardew can take West Ham into new territory, to challenge for the Champions League and even the title.
"United are obviously an exception. Like Real Madrid they are huge all over the world but there is massive potential at West Ham.
"Why? Because the club has such passionate supporters and a fantastic history. As far as I'm concerned they have got a much bigger worldwide fan base than Chelsea.
"That goes back to part of the history of the club - having three World Cup winners in Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst and Martin Peters."
Argentina World Cup stars Tevez and Mascherano joined the Hammers in a shock deadline-day move from Brazilian side Corinthians on Thursday.
West Ham confirmed to the stock exchange on Friday that they are having "exploratory discussions" over a possible takeover.
The identity of the group behind the bid has not been revealed - but under new proposals set to be adopted by Fifa, they will not be able to remain anonymous.
World football's governing body is determined for there to be transparency regarding the ownership of clubs and will soon no longer allow investors to purchase teams under the name of a business, while they themselves remain anonymous.
Uefa treasurer and Dutch FA president Mathieu Sprenger was recently asked by Fifa to investigate investment funds and mystery backers buying into football clubs.
Sprenger told the Mail on Sunday: "I have heard about the news reports concerning West Ham. Our proposals are that all clubs must show who owns them.
"It will not be enough simply for them to show that a company owns them. They will have to show who is behind that company as well.
"The Fifa congress unanimously supported these proposals in July so there is support from all the confederations for this.
"The Fifa president Sepp Blatter wants them to be written at the Congress next July.
"It doesn't matter if a takeover happens before the rules are instituted - from next year all clubs would have to show their ownership and who is behind them.
"If he (Joorabchian) took over at West Ham, he would have to show that. For the integrity of competitions, it has to be made clear who is in control."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5309992.stm
if he wants to win the CL then we won't be a feeder club, its a great time to be a hammer
(at least i can say i was here when we were in the championship, unlike certain chelski fans)
Forsberg
04-09-2006, 12:50 AM
They'll never be bigger than Utd. With ridiculous money they may become a better team ,but they'll never be as big
MonTheHoops
04-09-2006, 11:21 AM
Sorry Liam but they'd only become a better team, not a bigger club. Chelsea Mark II and nothing more. Don't have the history you see.
Sound
05-09-2006, 12:27 PM
The emperor has no clothes.
jungle
07-09-2006, 01:18 PM
Sorry Liam but they'd only become a better team, not a bigger club. Chelsea Mark II and nothing more. Don't have the history you see.
Depends on your time scale. Somebody could have said the same about Liverpool in the 1960s.
Go back 50 years and you wouldn't say Utd were the biggest club in Manchester.
With 30+ years of success a team can move to that status.
MonTheHoops
07-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Depends on your time scale. Somebody could have said the same about Liverpool in the 1960s.
Go back 50 years and you wouldn't say Utd were the biggest club in Manchester.
With 30+ years of success a team can move to that status.
Well in that case i predict that port vale will be bigger than jesus. Sometime.
homer jay
07-09-2006, 01:26 PM
Well in that case i predict that port vale will be bigger than jesus. Sometime.
cop on, we all know thats never gonna happen. there's no such thing as jesus
MonTheHoops
07-09-2006, 01:42 PM
cop on, we all know thats never gonna happen. there's no such thing as jesus
It's happened already then.
homer jay
07-09-2006, 01:48 PM
It's happened already then.
all hail the prophet Mon
Rebelred
15-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Palermo are a massive club though!
MonTheHoops
15-09-2006, 11:28 AM
Palermo are a massive club though!
They are now that they've beaten the Galacticos of West Ham.
STEVIEG
15-09-2006, 11:31 AM
Who the fuck is Kia Joorabchian
These two signings were great but West Ham were very good already and have been slightly unbalanced by them, and as much as i admire Tevez and particularly Macsherano, no other club would go near dealing with someone like MSI in the end because they basically are dodgy fuckers
Even Portsmouth turned down this deal
That said, it's good that these two guys have joined the premiership and it might mean that the Hammers take a few points off Chelsea and other teams
MonTheHoops
18-09-2006, 08:25 AM
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/report/0,16379,1780_1513176 ,00.html
liam2me
18-09-2006, 02:48 PM
jesus MON you are an obsessed little creature aren't ya, 3 posts in quick succession belittling west ham, did you get bullied by a west ham fan as a child or something?
Lamps
18-09-2006, 02:49 PM
jesus MON you are an obsessed little creature aren't ya, 3 posts in quick succession belittling west ham, did you get bullied by a west ham fan as a child or something?
he has been owning your ass for the past 2 months, if i were you i would pack in the proc.
liam2me
18-09-2006, 02:54 PM
he has been owning your ass for the past 2 months, if i were you i would pack in the proc.
and in comes the other brain cell. see your still supporting where the money is, well you won't be welcome as a west ham fan when the take over goes through fairweather boy, bet you were a man u fan before chelsea got money
MonTheHoops
18-09-2006, 02:58 PM
jesus MON you are an obsessed little creature aren't ya, 3 posts in quick succession belittling west ham, did you get bullied by a west ham fan as a child or something?
I don't need to belittle West Ham Liam. They're doing a good enough job themselves.
liam2me
18-09-2006, 03:02 PM
sure every team has its ups and downs, and if west ham are belittling themselves then what does that say about arsenal (who look like they're about to get some russian money), liverpool and tottenham?
West Ham are only a feeder club
liam2me
18-09-2006, 03:08 PM
West Ham are only a feeder club
and in walks curly
MonTheHoops
18-09-2006, 03:09 PM
and in walks curly
Sorry but that's Comedy Gold :p
STEVIEG
18-09-2006, 03:11 PM
and in walks curly
:):):)
MonTheHoops
01-10-2006, 07:35 PM
There'll be lots of sleepless nights in East London tonight. Reading beat West 'Am on there own patch. Facking cahnts.
Talk today is of Scolari taking over. He'll want his own staff in. Are you worried about your job Liam? One question though, does Scolari like hacking & diving? :crazyeyes:
Rebelred
02-10-2006, 10:04 AM
no wins since the arrival of the argies! Relegation looms!
MonTheHoops
02-10-2006, 10:36 AM
no wins since the arrival of the argies! Relegation looms!
If Yerman FromKasabian is right (did I spell that right?), then where do Reading appear in the big scheme of things?
Rebelred
02-10-2006, 10:46 AM
If Yerman FromKasabian is right (did I spell that right?), then where do Reading appear in the big scheme of things?
well Reading are a world power now really, if they can beat the hammers now I expect they'll take champions league honours in the next few years
FL4ZGN
02-10-2006, 10:55 AM
Reo-Coker slammed the captains armband into the turf when he noticed he was being substituted with ten minutes to go. He then refused to wear a tracksuit and sat on the bench in a huff.
Not the behaviour one would expect from a club captain.
My guess is he wanted to go to Arsenal and is now not happy with the club for turning down the £13 million offered by the Gunners on transfer deadline day.
homer jay
04-10-2006, 11:21 AM
After two days of inquests following the 1-0 Premiership home defeat by Reading on Sunday, it is understood Pardew had to be persuaded to stay at Upton Park - but he only agreed on the proviso that the proposed takeover by investment company MSI did not go ahead, reports the Daily Mirror.
The decision will almost certainly lead to the exit of Argentinian duo Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano in the January transfer window, despite being two of the most sought-after players in world football when they joined the Hammers in August.
Pardew's anger at interference from MSI, the company who signed the Argentinians, boiled over after his side lost for the fifth match in a row to slip to 16th in the league, out of the relegation zone only on goal difference.
Pardew has so far failed to fit Tevez and Mascherano into his system and is also frustrated by the former's fondness for London's nightlife as well as his lack of English.
An insider told the Daily Mirror: "The board wasn't left with very much option. It either let Alan walk out, or did the right thing for the club.".
MonTheHoops
04-10-2006, 11:27 AM
Wonder what Yerman Fromkasabian thinks of all this now?
homer jay
04-10-2006, 11:42 AM
the cracks are appearing big time. pardew must take a lot of the blame for agreeing to take the argies.
Forsberg
04-10-2006, 11:55 AM
Jesus, Liam seems to be staying well away from this thread. I wonder why
Rebelred
04-10-2006, 12:15 PM
he'll be back next year, telling us all how he supports a championship team again
STEVIEG
06-10-2006, 01:24 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5411702.stm
On another note, as bad as some of his attacks were (Arsene Wenger for one)
I admire Liam for sticking up for his team and at least he is a proper Hammers fan in fairness (without the hooliganism:))-the team seems to have become totally at odds with themselves since theses transfers went though and the suspicion that these guys are gonna up and leave has always been there
MonTheHoops
06-10-2006, 04:51 PM
Lame's only having his credentials tested. The longer he stays away the more of an entrance he'll make on his next return. As much as we go head to head the little rascal must surely know it's tough love. It hurts me more than it hurts him.
STEVIEG
06-10-2006, 04:55 PM
Lame's only having his credentials tested. The longer he stays away the more of an entrance he'll make on his next return. As much as we go head to head the little rascal must surely know it's tough love. It hurts me more than it hurts him.
Fair enough
And on a brighter note for him, Mascerhano has verbally committed his future to the club today so all is not lost
liam2me
06-10-2006, 05:06 PM
i'v just been busy moving home, nearly done now. we're in trouble at the moment but thankfully none of the fans are turning on pardew or the team. the takeover is troubling everyone but as soon as its all sorted we'll be back and firing on all cylinders. aparently there is now a second consortium bidding for the club, stevie where did ya see that about Mascerhano?
BlueSkies
06-10-2006, 05:08 PM
The Argentina manager wants both Tevez and Mascherano to leave West Ham in order to secure their futures in the national team.
Forsberg
06-10-2006, 05:09 PM
i'v just been busy moving home, nearly done now. we're in trouble at the moment but thankfully none of the fans are turning on pardew or the team. the takeover is troubling everyone but as soon as its all sorted we'll be back and firing on all cylinders. aparently there is now a second consortium bidding for the club, stevie where did ya see that about Mascerhano?
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?HLID=42047 2&CPID=8&title=Javier+still+b lowing+bubbles&lid=&channel=Football_Hom e&f=rss&clid=21
liam2me
06-10-2006, 05:19 PM
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?HLID=42047 2&CPID=8&title=Javier+still+b lowing+bubbles&lid=&channel=Football_Hom e&f=rss&clid=21
cheers
afeencalleddan
22-10-2006, 06:27 PM
Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiido!
Rebelred
23-10-2006, 09:02 AM
if he wants to win the CL then we won't be a feeder club, its a great time to be a hammer
(at least i can say i was here when we were in the championship, unlike certain chelski fans)
Don't worry Liam, ye'll soon be back in your beloved championship
MonTheHoops
23-10-2006, 09:26 AM
Doesn't Pardew know that the 'Ammers are vying with Madrid to be the greatest side in the world? As with Madrid, you don't need the Real to know who I'm talking about. In years to come, just mention "Ham" and everyone will know exactly what team you mean.
legend76
23-10-2006, 06:34 PM
Spurs showed 'em just how "big" they are yesterday.
liam2me
23-10-2006, 06:45 PM
Spurs showed 'em just how "big" they are yesterday.
thay did alright, too big for yer man defoe to eat anyway
AmadeusDC
23-10-2006, 07:00 PM
thay did alright, too big for yer man defoe to eat anyway
Yep, I'll give you that. The Argie looked like a right tosser for reacting the way he did but Defore BITING SOMEONE regardless of how much damage he did is absolutely unforgivable. Thugish behavior of the highest order and he should have the book thrown at him IMHO. -AmadeusDC-
AmadeusDC
23-10-2006, 07:14 PM
btw
btw.... i'll make a statement here that you can feel free to quote next year if things are going your way..............
West Ham will be more concerned with avoiding relegation next season than trying to even dream of C/L qualification and they will be considerably closer in terms of points to the relegation zone than the Champions next year!!
You should be hoping West Ham can imitate Charlton and not get above themselves in thinking they are a London big boy like Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham.
-AmadeusDC-
I think they may be imitating Charlton a bit too closely right now though :)
-AmadeusDC-
legend76
23-10-2006, 09:47 PM
Yep, I'll give you that. The Argie looked like a right tosser for reacting the way he did but Defore BITING SOMEONE regardless of how much damage he did is absolutely unforgivable. Thugish behavior of the highest order and he should have the book thrown at him IMHO. -AmadeusDC-
It was only a nibble!!!
MonTheHoops
23-10-2006, 10:35 PM
Sterling work Amadeus.
AmadeusDC
23-10-2006, 10:44 PM
It was only a nibble!!!
Perhaps, but for me biting is a low as it gets. Spitting is another deplorable act in my books but biting is just the worst of the worst. If a player spat at another player, even if he missed, I'd expect him to be severely reprimanded! A bite (nibble or whatever you wanna call it) no matter how little damage it does is a scummy act that deserves to be punished. It doesn't say a lot for Defoe that the mere idea of biting, or nibbling or whatever he was trying to do to the Argie came into his head at all. If someone did it to me I'd expect him to be sent off. Then again I wouldn't role around like a fuckin edjit either as Mascherano did............ he did himself no favours reacting how he did but i don't think it excuses Defoe, shame the FA did. -AmadeusDC-
Paddy Wagon
24-10-2006, 12:08 PM
It was only a nibble!!!
Get it right it was a ''comical nibble''
AmadeusDC
24-10-2006, 11:01 PM
Bigger than Chesterfield?
Wow...... from going to win the UEFA Cup to this.
How the mighty feeder club has fallen.
-AmadeusDC-
STEVIEG
24-10-2006, 11:04 PM
Bigger than Chesterfield?
Wow...... from going to win the UEFA Cup to this.
How the mighty feeder club has fallen.
-AmadeusDC-
I just saw that and didn't have the heart to post it to be honest
Poor old Liam is having the biggest nightmare of all time on here
And i think its gonna get worse
Loftydog
24-10-2006, 11:40 PM
I just saw that and didn't have the heart to post it to be honest
Poor old Liam is having the biggest nightmare of all time on here
And i think its gonna get worse
Meltdown anyone?
liam2me
25-10-2006, 01:15 AM
Meltdown anyone?
you can say that again, WTF is going on like? they really need a kick up the hole to get them started again. we've got arsenal in 2 weeks, and if we keep playing like this its goint to be lambs to the slaughter
Rebelred
25-10-2006, 09:17 AM
you can say that again, WTF is going on like? they really need a kick up the hole to get them started again. we've got arsenal in 2 weeks, and if we keep playing like this its goint to be lambs to the slaughter
Now that's a game we're all looking forward to, those cheating dirty scummy Arsenal players, who play horrible horrible football, v the mighty honest and hardworking Hammers, so nearly the Uefa cup winners and certs for Champions league glory in the near future!
Chesterfield! oh how the mighty have fallen
MonTheHoops
25-10-2006, 09:21 AM
Now that's a game we're all looking forward to, those cheating dirty scummy Arsenal players, who play horrible horrible football, v the mighty honest and hardworking Hammers, so nearly the Uefa cup winners and certs for Champions league glory in the near future!
Chesterfield! oh how the mighty have fallen
It's your classic tale of good vs evil, except this time good doesn't have a wizard, a dwarf, an elf and some other magic shit to help them to Mordor (Highbury). Like shooting hobbits in a barrel.
4-0 Arsenal
Rebelred
25-10-2006, 09:27 AM
It's your classic tale of good vs evil, except this time good doesn't have a wizard, a dwarf, an elf and some other magic shit to help them to Mordor (Highbury). Like shooting hobbits in a barrel.
4-0 Arsenal
am I right in saying that they have yet to win a game since the Argies came on board???
MonTheHoops
25-10-2006, 09:37 AM
am I right in saying that they have yet to win a game since the Argies came on board???
There have been small victories. I read somewhere recently that West Ham are in the top 20 clubs in Europe when it comes to money received on matchdays through catering i.e. jellied eel pie, bangers n mash
jungle
25-10-2006, 09:37 AM
am I right in saying that they have yet to win a game since the Argies came on board???
They haven't scored a goal with them on the pitch...
Although, in fairness, they weren't playing last night/
homer jay
25-10-2006, 10:45 AM
tut tut tut, 8 games lost on the trot. there's something rank at upton park and it ain't the pies.
It's your classic tale of good vs evil, except this time good doesn't have a wizard, a dwarf, an elf and some other magic shit to help them to Mordor (Highbury). Like shooting hobbits in a barrel.
4-0 Arsenal
Dont you mean The Emirates Stadium?
Rebelred
25-10-2006, 11:47 AM
Dont you mean The Emirates Stadium?
that's the other tower!together they form an axis of evil so to speak
Rebelred
25-10-2006, 04:46 PM
Alan Pardew, 31 August: "What a fantastic day for West Ham United Football Club. Not only am I excited by the arrivals of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano. I have no doubt that this deal will give us a real chance to compete with the very best teams in the Premiership and in Europe."
MonTheHoops
25-10-2006, 05:34 PM
Alan Pardew, 31 August: "What a fantastic day for West Ham United Football Club. Not only am I excited by the arrivals of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano. I have no doubt that this deal will give us a real chance to compete with the very best teams in the Premiership and in Europe."
Chesterfield is, technically, in Europe though.
liam2me
25-10-2006, 09:18 PM
Chesterfield is, technically, in Europe though.
it must be easy supporting a team that has no real comptition
stevetharlear
25-10-2006, 09:33 PM
it must be easy supporting a team that has no real comptition
U from Knocka?
MonTheHoops
25-10-2006, 11:53 PM
it must be easy supporting a team that has no real comptition
I had to listen to it after Artmedia Lame, but it wasn't compounded by the fact that I didn't say we'd win the competition. Unlike somone else.
liam2me
26-10-2006, 12:26 AM
I had to listen to it after Artmedia Lame, but it wasn't compounded by the fact that I didn't say we'd win the competition. Unlike somone else.
who's this someone else? Kia Joorabchian?
stevetharlear
26-10-2006, 12:53 AM
I had to listen to it after Artmedia Lame, but it wasn't compounded by the fact that I didn't say we'd win the competition. Unlike somone else.
Ahhhh, Artmedia, those were the days eh?:???:
MonTheHoops
26-10-2006, 09:41 AM
Ahhhh, Artmedia, those were the days eh?:???:
It was par for the course years ago. We've only been doing ok in Europe since MON arrived and went out to Bordeaux in his first season courtesy of a brace from Lilian Laslandes (who then went on to Sunderland if I remember correctly. Marikinmanc?)
STEVIEG
05-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Great win over the Arse for the Hammers (who prob should have had a pen)
Arse looked toothless against a team who actually out-muscled them and Pardew brought on Harewood and Teddy the legend and won the match
Wenger lost it and refused to shake hands with Pardew, and Wenger and Pardew also comically raised hands against each other after the goal, would have been a good ruckus
Young Cesc also lost the plot a bit
Arsenal's title dreams look in tatters, a draw or defeat against Liverpool next week and i'd say they are in trouble
Loftydog
05-11-2006, 04:54 PM
Does this mean that chesterfield are bigger than arsenal?
STEVIEG
05-11-2006, 04:57 PM
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4688/sheringmyo3.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shering myo3.jpg)
STEVIEG
05-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Great win over the Arse for the Hammers (who prob should have had a pen)
can't edit this but it was Arse who shud have had the pen
Rebelred
20-11-2006, 04:07 PM
Great win for the underdogs of Chelsea at the weekend.
Meanwhile, the Hammers top of the table form continues unabated... thats 11 points from a possible 39!
homer jay
04-12-2006, 11:39 AM
another step on the way to stardom yesterday. hooraaa
ho chi feen
04-12-2006, 01:19 PM
They could end up being as big as Charlton at this rate.
liam2me
04-12-2006, 04:09 PM
laugh all ye want, i would prefer to support a team for a reason other than the big 4 and celtic, just because of peer pressure
Sound
04-12-2006, 04:14 PM
laugh all ye want, i would prefer to support a team for a reason other than the big 4 and celtic, just because of peer pressure
Thank you- we will.
homer jay
04-12-2006, 04:25 PM
laugh all ye want, i would prefer to support a team for a reason other than the big 4 and celtic, just because of peer pressure
didn't you say that you only started supporting them after you started working for them?
AmadeusDC
04-12-2006, 05:00 PM
didn't you say that you only started supporting them after you started working for them?
heh heh :D
-AmadeusDC-
Paddy Wagon
04-12-2006, 05:08 PM
the West Ham 06/07 almanac is on its way to replacing the Bible as the most popular reading material in the world.. The Clarion Hotel group have announced they plan to replace all Bibles in the hotel Rooms with the Almanac on its release *
* The above may be Bullshit
liam2me
04-12-2006, 05:53 PM
didn't you say that you only started supporting them after you started working for them?
yup, and proud of it, much better than being a bandwagon jumper like the rest of ye
the puerto rican feen
04-12-2006, 06:02 PM
yup, and proud of it, much better than being a bandwagon jumper like the rest of ye
who did you support before that ?
liam2me
04-12-2006, 06:09 PM
who did you support before that ?
no one
the puerto rican feen
04-12-2006, 06:12 PM
no one
so you had no idea about football, never watched it ?
Not one single team to tempt you to head down the pub to watch ?
Not one club to say "I like the way these fellas play" ?
homer jay
04-12-2006, 06:15 PM
yup, and proud of it, much better than being a bandwagon jumper like the rest of ye
your support sounds a little hollow to me. you criticise people for supporting big 4 clubs because of peer pressure and bandwagoning, yet you only support west ham because you just happened to get a job with them! who are you going to support when you leave?
Sound
04-12-2006, 06:18 PM
yup, and proud of it, much better than being a bandwagon jumper like the rest of ye
Jesus wept!
ho chi feen
04-12-2006, 06:24 PM
didn't you say that you only started supporting them after you started working for them?
And that he never even had any interest in football before he started working for them?
liam2me
04-12-2006, 07:10 PM
so you had no idea about football, never watched it ?
Not one single team to tempt you to head down the pub to watch ?
Not one club to say "I like the way these fellas play" ?
no, i would never go down the pub to watch soccer, much as most of ye wouldn't watch rugby,i always watched rugby and GAA and they are still my favourite sports. and yes i only started supporting west ham when i started working there, but that was not immediate either it grew on me, its very hard not to get involved when you are around the place as much as i am and the emotion that was the play-offs and that. not that hard to comprehend for anyone with half a braincell or any of the SFI who can't understand how someone likes most sports and isn't just attached to one with a deep hatred of the others
MonTheHoops
04-12-2006, 07:15 PM
its very hard not to get involved when you are around the place as much as i am and the emotion that was the play-offs and that.
If that isn't the definition of bandwagoning then I don't know what is.
liam2me
04-12-2006, 07:17 PM
If that isn't the definition of bandwagoning then I don't know what is.
you are an idiot, bandwagon jumping is when a team is successful not when they're struggling to make 6th in the championship, you really are thick as pig shit
MonTheHoops
04-12-2006, 07:49 PM
you are an idiot, bandwagon jumping is when a team is successful not when they're struggling to make 6th in the championship, you really are thick as pig shit
Don't sit on the fence lamey. Tell me what you really think.
the puerto rican feen
04-12-2006, 09:42 PM
Playoffs = Successful ?
liam2me
05-12-2006, 05:24 PM
Playoffs = Successful ?
my point exactly, MON is a fuck wit
MonTheHoops
05-12-2006, 06:02 PM
my point exactly, MON is a fuck wit
Can someone else pick up from where I left off?
Let's just clarify though:
1 - You didn't support anyone before going over there (not even taking interest in the game)
2 - You got interested because of the emotion surrounding the playoffs.
3 - You didn't jump on the playoffs bandwagon.
P.S. Who's Kia interested in now? Wasn't it Charlton lately? What happens if he takes over them? Where will West Ham be in world football? Also, who does the new owner think you lot can be bigger than? I saw him at the weekend, he's the bulb off Gollum.
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2006/11/21/eggert2.jpg
the puerto rican feen
05-12-2006, 06:20 PM
my point exactly, MON is a fuck wit
"bandwagon jumping is when a team is successful"
by your own admission you say you got interested during the playoffs, therefore you jumped on the bandwagon of success.
QED
AmadeusDC
05-12-2006, 06:29 PM
"bandwagon jumping is when a team is successful"
by your own admission you say you got interested during the playoffs, therefore you jumped on the bandwagon of success.
QED
Cork City finished 3rd this season playing in front of remarkably small crowds on some occasions considering they were defending champions. They still get a chance to play in Europe next season though. When everyone is all excited next summer and the European game at the Cross sells out what would you call a load of the people at the game except bandwagon jumpers? Bandwagon jumping doesn't neccesarily have to be at the highest level or be for a team winning trophies. Perosnally, I would consider getting all caught up in supporting a team competing in the playoffs bandwagon jumping. The excitement of the games, the days out to Cardiff, the prospect of promotion back to the Premier League. Tagging on then is bandwagon jumping for me anyhow. It wouldn't be so bad except he's always harping on about not supporting one of the big 4. Ok he supports West Ham but he disappeard when things were rough recently after singing from the rooftops all of last year. -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
05-12-2006, 08:16 PM
Cork City finished 3rd this season playing in front of remarkably small crowds on some occasions considering they were defending champions. They still get a chance to play in Europe next season though. When everyone is all excited next summer and the European game at the Cross sells out what would you call a load of the people at the game except bandwagon jumpers? Bandwagon jumping doesn't neccesarily have to be at the highest level or be for a team winning trophies. Perosnally, I would consider getting all caught up in supporting a team competing in the playoffs bandwagon jumping. The excitement of the games, the days out to Cardiff, the prospect of promotion back to the Premier League. Tagging on then is bandwagon jumping for me anyhow. It wouldn't be so bad except he's always harping on about not supporting one of the big 4. Ok he supports West Ham but he disappeard when things were rough recently after singing from the rooftops all of last year. -AmadeusDC-
disappeared? i was moving home, and have said as much, idiot. and cork getting into the 1st round qualifiers of the CL is a big thing by irish standards, especially as irish soccer fans (and idiots like langer dan) set their standards so low
as for MON
1) yaeh thats true, and yet again i ask, because you've never answered, whats your point? and to add, what dictates when is or isn't the right time to like starting a sport? (bet these questions will go unanswered, or with a pithy comeback and/or insult)
2) (also for the puerto rican muppet)not just the play-offs but the run up too them as well, considering the last day was when we were confirmed into 6th place and i was supporting them before that
3)hard to jump on the play-offs bandwagon as i was supporting them before the play-offs began. muppet
as for kia, well we've got someone better, and i ain't complaining about that one little bit
MonTheHoops
05-12-2006, 08:31 PM
1) yaeh thats true, and yet again i ask, because you've never answered, whats your point? and to add, what dictates when is or isn't the right time to like starting a sport? (bet these questions will go unanswered, or with a pithy comeback and/or insult)
2) (also for the puerto rican muppet)not just the play-offs but the run up too them as well, considering the last day was when we were confirmed into 6th place and i was supporting them before that
3)hard to jump on the play-offs bandwagon as i was supporting them before the play-offs began. muppet
as for kia, well we've got someone better, and i ain't complaining about that one little bit
Ok lame I'll indulge:
1) "what dictates when is or isn't the right time to like starting a sport?"
You're spot on about your questions going unanswered. Especially when they continue to make fuck all sense. Ask me a question and you'll get an answer
2) You said it was hard not to get involved in "the emotion of the play offs". Considering I'm not the only person who took this at face value then perhaps your ability, or lack thereof, to explain yourself more clearly is the issue. If only your lecturers were autistic you'd be genius a considered if you drift my catch lame.
"we've got someone better, and i ain't complaining about that one little bit"
Too roight guvnah.
http://www.jimandellen.org/ellen/DVDykeontheroof.jpg
the puerto rican feen
05-12-2006, 09:08 PM
2) (also for the puerto rican muppet)not just the play-offs but the run up too them as well, considering the last day was when we were confirmed into 6th place and i was supporting them before that
3)hard to jump on the play-offs bandwagon as i was supporting them before the play-offs began. muppet
"its very hard not to get involved when you are around the place as much as i am and the emotion that was the play-offs and that."
I don't see anything about "before" in this sentence.
"muppet", oh the irony.
liam2me
05-12-2006, 09:12 PM
"its very hard not to get involved when you are around the place as much as i am and the emotion that was the play-offs and that."
I don't see anything about "before" in this sentence.
"muppet", oh the irony.
oh yes, and i've never said anything before that? oh wait the memory has been drunk to death, explains it all
AmadeusDC
06-12-2006, 10:08 PM
2:0 down to Wigan now. Another loss likely. It really has proven to be a let down season for West Ham. I can't say much myself as a Blackburn fan but at least we've gone and done something in Europe. Both teams probably have enough to stay up (fingers crossed), personally I think we'll be fine but stranger things have happened. I wonder how Tevez is playing tonight. He was the best player on the field last Sunday against Everton and I thought he might be turning the corner. -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
06-12-2006, 11:47 PM
2:0 down to Wigan now. Another loss likely. It really has proven to be a let down season for West Ham. I can't say much myself as a Blackburn fan but at least we've gone and done something in Europe. Both teams probably have enough to stay up (fingers crossed), personally I think we'll be fine but stranger things have happened. I wonder how Tevez is playing tonight. He was the best player on the field last Sunday against Everton and I thought he might be turning the corner. -AmadeusDC-
again best player on the park, he's really getting used to the prem, and he's the only one showing any heart in the team, pardew really needs to kick them up the hole
nemesis
11-12-2006, 04:49 PM
Heh heh heh.
STEVIEG
11-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Who the fuck is Kia Joorabchian
These two signings were great but West Ham were very good already and have been slightly unbalanced by them, and as much as i admire Tevez and particularly Macsherano, no other club would go near dealing with someone like MSI in the end because they basically are dodgy fuckers
Even Portsmouth turned down this deal
That said, it's good that these two guys have joined the premiership and it might mean that the Hammers take a few points off Chelsea and other teams
FAO Edmund Polwater and co
Back in September
Lamps
11-12-2006, 04:56 PM
FAO Edmund Polwater and co
Back in September
is there a point here?
seriously
STEVIEG
11-12-2006, 04:57 PM
is there a point here?
seriously
The point that i had to repeat to youand your no-mark buddy earlier
This transfer wouldn't have been touched with a barge pole by other clubs because of the link with MSL or whatever the fuck they are called....
Do keep up
Lamps
11-12-2006, 04:59 PM
The point that i had to repeat to youand your no-mark buddy earlier
This transfer wouldn't have been touched with a barge pole by other clubs because of the link with MSL or whatever the fuck they are called....
Do keep up
You have no understanding of the modern game Steven
STEVIEG
11-12-2006, 05:02 PM
You have no understanding of the modern game Steven
Ass on a plate everytime God this is easy
Lamps
11-12-2006, 05:03 PM
Ass on a plate everytime God this is easy
?
Edmund Blackwater
11-12-2006, 05:13 PM
FAO Edmund Polwater and co
Back in September
Are you quoting yourseldf to back up your point?
Jesus, you have a fair elevated opinion of your credibility round here.
Lamps
11-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Are you quoting yourseldf to back up your point?
Jesus, you have a fair elevated opinion of your credibility round here.
He's a weak poster. Big on ego, low in content
STEVIEG
11-12-2006, 05:23 PM
Are you quoting yourseldf to back up your point?
Jesus, you have a fair elevated opinion of your credibility round here.
Yup and your credibilty has gone through the roof since you switched usernames........... .....
Edmund Blackwater
11-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Yup and your credibilty has gone through the roof since you switched usernames........... .....
You really are blinkered aren't you?
I hope your radio programme doesn't have a phone in section.
You'd be owned every two minutes.
STEVIEG
11-12-2006, 05:26 PM
You really are blinkered aren't you?
I hope your radio programme doesn't have a phone in section.
You'd be owned every two minutes.
Stick to the point
Rattled and owned
Rebelred
25-02-2007, 08:21 AM
there's nothing like a timely 4-0 bump to help you on your way to European and world domination :D
homer jay
25-02-2007, 11:18 AM
there's nothing like a timely 4-0 bump to help you on your way to European and world domination :D
they're f*cked. they were asking for it when they signed quashie tho, a jinx if there ever was one.
liam2me
25-02-2007, 12:32 PM
they're f*cked. they were asking for it when they signed quashie tho, a jinx if there ever was one.
i already said we are fucked, in the magnusson blasts pardew thread. TBH i'm surprised the big whinging baby MON wasn't the one who dragged this up. anyway t'was the guy who didn't get in who said the original comment
homer jay
25-02-2007, 12:39 PM
i already said we are fucked, in the magnusson blasts pardew thread. TBH i'm surprised the big whinging baby MON wasn't the one who dragged this up. anyway t'was the guy who didn't get in who said the original comment
yeah, but you endorsed it by posting it up here and adding your comment. you gave yourself plenty of rope to hang yourself with on this one liam. expect it to be bumped to high heaven should they be relegated.
MonTheHoops
25-02-2007, 12:41 PM
Bump. Slipping down the forum there.
Rebelred
25-02-2007, 12:45 PM
Bump. Slipping down the forum there.
don't want it down near the bottom or anything now, it might get relegated to page two!
liam2me
25-02-2007, 12:53 PM
yeah, but you endorsed it by posting it up here and adding your comment. you gave yourself plenty of rope to hang yourself with on this one liam. expect it to be bumped to high heaven should they be relegated.
i am expecting it and have no problem, we will be relegated, i'll say that now too. i don't know how different it would have been with the iranian guy in charge either
MonTheHoops
25-02-2007, 12:55 PM
i am expecting it and have no problem, we will be relegated, i'll say that now too. i don't know how different it would have been with the iranian guy in charge either
Don't be so hard on yourself, of course you know how different things could have been
http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819 44
liam2me
25-02-2007, 01:03 PM
TBH i think being relegated for a year would be the best thing to happen, strip off the deadwood and make a fresh start, at least magnusson has the financial clout to get us back up next season
legend76
26-02-2007, 10:11 AM
Delighted for Pardew. wonderful result for Charlton.
Bet Lucas Neill and Alan Curbishly were proud men for hopping on the Hammer train to nowhere
ho chi feen
26-02-2007, 12:54 PM
Delighted for Pardew. wonderful result for Charlton.
Bet Lucas Neill and Alan Curbishly were proud men for hopping on the Hammer train to nowhere
Never rated Curbs. Maybe I'm being harsh, as some people just aren't any good in front of a microphone, but anytime I've heard him interviewed, he just sounds clueless.
dotty
26-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Delighted for Pardew. wonderful result for Charlton.
Bet Lucas Neill and Alan Curbishly were proud men for hopping on the Hammer train to nowhere
agreed,although i dont think charlton add a great deal to the PL i hope they stay up for pardews sake,did a great job at west ham amid all the criticism and abuse he received from time to time from the hammers faithful,got them up and was within 30 seconds of winning an FA Cup final only to be shown the door five months later.
Sound
01-03-2007, 06:24 PM
Lovely couple of days for Snoop Junior what with being told he'll be sold and now this:
Premiership footballer Anton Ferdinand was ordered today to stand trial following an alleged brawl.
The West Ham defender and younger brother of Manchester United star Rio was arrested outside Faces nightclub in Ilford, east London, on October 2 last year.
The 22-year-old, sporting a cornrow hairstyle with collar-length braids, was smartly dressed in a dark grey suit, white shirt and black tie for an 18-minute plea and case management hearing at London’s Snaresbrook Crown Court.
He spoke only to confirm his name and deny charges of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and violent disorder.
The indictment, read out by the clerk, identified his alleged victim as Emile Walker.
Appearing with the player, of Grove Park Road, Mottingham, south east London, was Edward Dawkins (aged 28) of Henry Adlington Close, Beckton, east London
liam2me
01-03-2007, 06:41 PM
Lovely couple of days for Snoop Junior what with being told he'll be sold and now this:
Premiership footballer Anton Ferdinand was ordered today to stand trial following an alleged brawl.
The West Ham defender and younger brother of Manchester United star Rio was arrested outside Faces nightclub in Ilford, east London, on October 2 last year.
The 22-year-old, sporting a cornrow hairstyle with collar-length braids, was smartly dressed in a dark grey suit, white shirt and black tie for an 18-minute plea and case management hearing at London’s Snaresbrook Crown Court.
He spoke only to confirm his name and deny charges of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and violent disorder.
The indictment, read out by the clerk, identified his alleged victim as Emile Walker.
Appearing with the player, of Grove Park Road, Mottingham, south east London, was Edward Dawkins (aged 28) of Henry Adlington Close, Beckton, east London
i have no faith in curbishley and i don't think curbishley will still be around to sell ferdinand come the transfer window.
as for the assault thing, its been getting a lot of attention in the standard, it was initially reported that ferdinand was attacked dunno what to believe but i do know faces is a club where a lot of nobody's who think they're somebody's go, wouldn't be surprised if one of them got the hump when an actual somebody showed up
AmadeusDC
01-03-2007, 10:39 PM
i do know faces is a club where a lot of nobody's who think they're somebody's go, wouldn't be surprised if one of them got the hump when an actual somebody showed up
So you think Anton got mad when a good player showed up or something like that ;) -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
01-03-2007, 10:58 PM
So you think Anton got mad when a good player showed up or something like that ;) -AmadeusDC-
:rolleyes:
Forsberg
02-03-2007, 05:36 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6410753.stm
The Premier League has charged West Ham with breaching their rules in relation to the signings of Argentine duo Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano in August.
Tevez and Mascherano joined the club in August, but their registration with third party Media Sports Investment may have broken Premier League regulations.
The Premiership strugglers could be deducted points if they are found guilty of breaching rule U18.
West Ham are 19th in the Premiership, nine points adrift of safety.
606: DEBATE
Let's get it over and done with so we can look forward to next season
DG
A points deduction would almost certainly condemn West Ham to the Championship.
Tevez and Mascherano joined West Ham on 31 August from Brazilian side Corinthians, but the deal was brokered by MSI, who owned the rights to the two players.
The Hammers reportedly failed to hand over vital documentation to the Premier League and have been charged under rule U18 concerning the influence of third-party ownership.
Mascherano has since left the Upton Park club to move to Liverpool.
The Premier League said in a statement: "It is the board's complaint that there were agreements in relation to both these transfers that enabled third parties to acquire the ability materially to influence the club's policies and/or the performance of its teams in League matches and/or the competitions set out in Rule E10.
"The board's view is this constitutes a breach of rule U18.
"Furthermore at the time of the transfer agreements for both Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano, and until 24 January 2007, West Ham failed to disclose the third party agreements to the Premier League and/or deliberately withheld these agreements from the Premier League.
"The board's view is this constitutes a breach of rule B13, which states 'In all matters and transactions relating to the League each club shall behave towards each other club and the League with the utmost good faith'.
"West Ham United has 14 days within which to respond to these charges."
Sound
02-03-2007, 05:43 PM
Liverpool bought yer man's interest in Mascherano- I wonder how this effects them?
STEVIEG
02-03-2007, 05:47 PM
Liverpool bought yer man's interest in Mascherano- I wonder how this effects them?
Liverpool are clean in all of this
KolaKubes
02-03-2007, 05:55 PM
Liverpool are clean in all of this
He's probably registered as a loan signing with them?
liam2me
02-03-2007, 09:15 PM
He's probably registered as a loan signing with them?
that he is
ho chi feen
04-03-2007, 05:09 AM
West Ham squad 'out of control'
Reckless gambling ruining morale
Player won £38,000 from team-mates
Curbishley 'not talking' to big winner
Jamie Jackson
Sunday March 4, 2007
The Observer
A culture of reckless high-stakes gambling is causing division within West Ham and rupturing morale to such an extent that the first-team squad, already riven by cliques, is 'spiralling out of control' - and the players, manager and directors already know that they can do nothing to stop the club being relegated. That is the damning view from inside the dressing room at the Premiership's most troubled club.
Players are haemorrhaging vast amounts of money to each other at the card table, as much as £50,000 in one sitting. They have won and lost these staggering sums on the team coach to matches. 'How can they be in a good frame of mind for a match after that?' says one first-team player, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Article continues
The player said: 'I've never seen anything like it in my career. It's one big mess here, the atmosphere is terrible, people don't talk to each other. Players are losing 30, 40 and 50 thousand pounds sometimes. By the time we arrive one player owes another and it's terrible for the team and morale. They are always playing cards.'
One senior player, an established international, is said to have won £38,000 from two of his team-mates in one afternoon recently. The losers had to pay up and manager Alan Curbishley is no longer speaking to the player who won the money. Two members of the squad have undertaken counselling and treatment for gambling addiction, and a third player is also believed to be seeking professional help.
The disillusioned player also identified a catalogue of other problems. These include spats between rival cliques within the dressing room over territory and wages; divisive tension between Curbishley and his players; doubts over the decision-making of new chairman Eggert Magnusson; and the widespread admission, privately, that the club will be relegated. He also said that one recent signing was amazed when he was asked to a meeting to discuss club affairs with senior management in a lap-dancing club, though the club strongly deny that any such meeting took place.
Added to West Ham's list of woes, as they prepare to take on Tottenham today, is the Premier League charge for alleged irregularities in the signing of the Argentine players Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez last August, which could result in the loss of points if the club are found guilty; and the pending trial of defender Anton Ferdinand on charges of assault and violent disorder following an alleged brawl outside a London nightclub last October.
It is the depth of the club's gambling problem, which has already caused winger Matthew Etherington and goalkeeper Roy Carroll to seek help, that most concerns Curbishley, according to our source. A West Ham spokesman said: 'The club is aware of the fact that gambling is an area of concern and the manager has made clear that it must stop. Steps have been taken to eradicate this in the team environment.'
It is believed that Curbishley's first attempt to stop the card schools some weeks ago failed, but gambling is now banned in situations where he is responsible for the team, such as on journeys to matches. But he has been unable to stop the poker sessions when training is over, and one recent session is said to have continued until 4am.
The former England striker Teddy Sheringham spoke about gambling earlier in the season when promoting the online poker site 888.com. 'I can see why it [gambling] does become a problem, especially for young players who have so much money and so much time on their hands. I've always enjoyed a drink, but at the right times, and I play poker at the right times. Some people take it to extremes. You've got to keep it under control.'
The gambling culture is one more headache for former Charlton manager Curbishley, who took over at Christmas, since when West Ham have won only once. Curbishley's predecessor, Alan Pardew, had taken the club to within a minute of winning the FA Cup last May, but then oversaw a dramatic slump this season. West Ham are now bottom of the table and 11 points adrift of safety.
According to a well-placed source at Upton Park, the players are 'certainly not a unit and haven't been for a long time. It began at the end of last season during Pardew's time. There is a huge division. Nigel Reo-Coker, Bobby Zamora, Marlon Harewood and Shaun Newton all hang out together. And Reo-Coker is constantly saying he is too good for the club, that he should be at Man United or Arsenal.' Team spirit is also damaged, according to the representative of one long-serving player, by the level of resentment about the wages paid to Matthew Upson and Lucas Neil, who were signed by Curbishley in the transfer window and are being paid big money. Neil is thought to have turned down Liverpool to keep a £60,000-a-week salary.
'It's not rocket science,' said the agent, who represents some of the biggest stars in the Premiership. 'If the established players who have achieved for the club see new ones come in enjoying a lot more money for doing not very much, it's obviously going to cause problems.' Upson and Neil have been injured and have made three appearances between them.
Curbishley is said to have 'given up' on some of his players. 'He often stays in his office with his assistants. Sometimes we see him, other times we don't,' said the insider. As for Magnusson, the players 'think he is clueless and a bit lost. He gives off the wrong messages and only talks to certain players in the dressing room - those he brought here. And he has accepted Curbishley's admission that they are already down.'
Curbishley said ahead of today's game that he does not fear the sack. 'Performances have to improve. We have to win as many as we can from our last 10 games.'
liam2me
04-03-2007, 08:18 AM
sure did ya see what tevez said in one of the rags recently? curbishley doesn't even talk to them in training, just writes what he wants done on the whiteboard.
as i said at the time and i'll say again, it was the biggest mistakes ever by west ham sacking pardew and hiring thon lifeless eejit
Sound
04-03-2007, 03:06 PM
Good god, what a fucking arsehole!
Anton Ferdinand has apologised to his West Ham team-mates after jetting off to America for a week of partying at a time when the relegation-threatened club could do without it.
The England under-21 international told the club he was visiting his sick grandmother on the Isle of Whight, but instead of crossing the Solent, he journeyed across the Atlantic instead to celebrate his 22nd birthday with friends.
Ferdinand's written apology said: "If I could turn back the clock, of course I would, but there is only one way I can make amends and that's to do everything I can to help West Ham stave off relegation.
"I owe as much to the manager, my team-mates and the fans. I would never do anything to deliberately shame West Ham and particularly the fans. But I ask everyone to remember I am still young and learning all the time."
West Ham prop up the Premiership table - ten points from safety with only ten games to go and 30 points available.
liam2me
04-03-2007, 05:33 PM
Good god, what a fucking arsehole!
Anton Ferdinand has apologised to his West Ham team-mates after jetting off to America for a week of partying at a time when the relegation-threatened club could do without it.
The England under-21 international told the club he was visiting his sick grandmother on the Isle of Whight, but instead of crossing the Solent, he journeyed across the Atlantic instead to celebrate his 22nd birthday with friends.
Ferdinand's written apology said: "If I could turn back the clock, of course I would, but there is only one way I can make amends and that's to do everything I can to help West Ham stave off relegation.
"I owe as much to the manager, my team-mates and the fans. I would never do anything to deliberately shame West Ham and particularly the fans. But I ask everyone to remember I am still young and learning all the time."
West Ham prop up the Premiership table - ten points from safety with only ten games to go and 30 points available.
they all seem to be on self destruct mode, at least pardew had them under control. very happy with todays team though, noble is class and at least bowyer and tevez have heart. and the defence is as solid as it can be
ho chi feen
04-03-2007, 05:37 PM
1-0 to West Ham, Noble.
legend76
05-03-2007, 11:22 AM
they all seem to be on self destruct mode, at least pardew had them under control. very happy with todays team though, noble is class and at least bowyer and tevez have heart. and the defence is as solid as it can be
yer going down!!!!
In fairness to West Ham, they looked a daycint outfit in the first half, You'd have thought it was Spurs who were bottom on the table.
"It was like hell, heaven, hell and heaven," Martin Jol
liam2me
05-03-2007, 02:22 PM
yer going down!!!!
In fairness to West Ham, they looked a daycint outfit in the first half, You'd have thought it was Spurs who were bottom on the table.
"It was like hell, heaven, hell and heaven," Martin Jol
solid as it can be for us i meant, the way we played in the first half, thats how we can play, thats how we played last year, but the only seem to show it in the big games (man u, arse, spuds, and chelski away) this season
legend76
05-03-2007, 02:40 PM
solid as it can be for us i meant, the way we played in the first half, thats how we can play, thats how we played last year, but the only seem to show it in the big games (man u, arse, spuds, and chelski away) this season
Even at Two nil, I wasn't worried about the result, not with Calum Davenport on the field. Interestingly, Spurs were been offered at 17/1 on the in match betting at that stage
liam2me
05-03-2007, 02:49 PM
Even at Two nil, I wasn't worried about the result, not with Calum Davenport on the field. Interestingly, Spurs were been offered at 17/1 on the in match betting at that stage
yeah davenport is the most useless waste of space we have, was responsible for so many fuck ups against charlton, if the defence had stayed as it started then you never know.
Rebelred
05-03-2007, 02:54 PM
Lucas Neill, whats he on? about 50,000 a week?
liam2me
05-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Lucas Neill, whats he on? about 50,000 a week?
dunno, but if he keeps us up he's worth it, so he's deffo an overpaid bastard :-D
legend76
05-03-2007, 06:45 PM
Lucas Neill, whats he on?
I think he's on magic mushrooms, he thought West Ham were as 'big' a club as Liverpool ( or at least in a fashion a lá Kia Joorabchian, at least tried hopelessly to convince us, that he believed so) Name-dropping Bobby Moore FFS to prove his point
"It wasn't about cash, that didn't come into it. It was about being wanted."- Lucas Neill, explaining why he opted to join West Ham (£60,000 a week), rather than Liverpool (£30,000 a week) from Blackburn.
yeah davenport is the most useless waste of space we have, was responsible for so many fuck ups against charlton, if the defence had stayed as it started then you never know.
I'm still a bit worried anytime Anthony Gardener has to do an impersonation of a professional footballer, and hopelessly tries to fill Ledley King's boots, but thank Christ Davenport got shipped off
liam2me
05-03-2007, 07:08 PM
I think he's on magic mushrooms, he thought West Ham were as 'big' a club as Liverpool ( or at least in a fashion a lá Kia Joorabchian, at least tried hopelessly to convince us, that he believed so) Name-dropping Bobby Moore FFS to prove his point
"It wasn't about cash, that didn't come into it. It was about being wanted."- Lucas Neill, explaining why he opted to join West Ham (£60,000 a week), rather than Liverpool (£30,000 a week) from Blackburn.
I'm still a bit worried anytime Anthony Gardener has to do an impersonation of a professional footballer, and hopelessly tries to fill Ledley King's boots, but thank Christ Davenport got shipped off
i assume you are a tottenham fan, you must feel damn lucky after yesterday when everythings said and done
RonnyB
06-03-2007, 08:44 AM
I think Lucas Neill has shipped too much abuse over his move to West Ham. Would he have got a game at Liverpool every week? And you can hardly blame him to going to a place where the money is twice what he's being offered else where.
ho chi feen
06-03-2007, 04:39 PM
I think Lucas Neill has shipped too much abuse over his move to West Ham. Would he have got a game at Liverpool every week? And you can hardly blame him to going to a place where the money is twice what he's being offered else where.
Aye. It's ludicrous to place him in the same bracket as Cashley, as some are.
Philby
06-03-2007, 04:48 PM
I think Lucas Neill has shipped too much abuse over his move to West Ham. Would he have got a game at Liverpool every week? And you can hardly blame him to going to a place where the money is twice what he's being offered else where.
Relatively speaking, West Ham were a safe choice for him. Guaranteed place in the side, fat pay-packet and no massive expectation level.
If he thought he was up to it he should've signed for Liverpool because Riise's place in the side is far from secure.
Not in the same league as Cashley to be fair but his move showed an equal mix of greed and lack of ambition.
RonnyB
06-03-2007, 04:56 PM
Relatively speaking, West Ham were a safe choice for him. Guaranteed place in the side, fat pay-packet and no massive expectation level.
If he thought he was up to it he should've signed for Liverpool because Riise's place in the side is far from secure.
Not in the same league as Cashley to be fair but his move showed an equal mix of greed and lack of ambition.
Well giving him credit, he's got the place in the side at twice the money than that of sitting on the bench from time to time & the big escape clause if needed which is looking likely.
Upson on the other hand was a much bigger tool to leave Birmingham.
jimmy magee
06-03-2007, 05:23 PM
I think Lucas Neill has shipped too much abuse over his move to West Ham. Would he have got a game at Liverpool every week? And you can hardly blame him to going to a place where the money is twice what he's being offered else where.
LUCAS NEILL IS A LIABILITY.
legend76
06-03-2007, 06:54 PM
I think Lucas Neill has shipped too much abuse over his move to West Ham. Would he have got a game at Liverpool every week? And you can hardly blame him to going to a place where the money is twice what he's being offered else where.
He brought the flack on himself, no one would have said a word, if he had just told the truth, and admitted the West Ham offer was way too good to refuse!!
The fact that he came out and LIED is what drew the abuse on himself
honestly read this quote again -
"It wasn't about cash, that didn't come into it. It was about being wanted."- Lucas Neill, explaining why he opted to join West Ham (£60,000 a week), rather than Liverpool (£30,000 a week) from Blackburn.
And then he made a bigger prat of himself harping on about Bobby Moore FFS.
still though, he aint no Cashley Hole :)
3pointplay
06-03-2007, 07:15 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5309992.stm
if he wants to win the CL then we won't be a feeder club, its a great time to be a hammer
(at least i can say i was here when we were in the championship, unlike certain chelski fans)
Ha ha ha ha,your going the way of leeds!!!!!!!!!!!!!
liam2me
06-03-2007, 07:29 PM
Ha ha ha ha,your going the way of leeds!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and there you have it, 16 pages later, the penny drops, well done
3pointplay
06-03-2007, 07:32 PM
and there you have it, 16 pages later, the penny drops, well done
No i just looked at it now.
homer jay
06-03-2007, 07:57 PM
and there you have it, 16 pages later, the penny drops, well done
it's always good to have a recap. good work 3pointplay :)
Loftydog
06-03-2007, 08:40 PM
solid as it can be for us i meant, the way we played in the first half, thats how we can play, thats how we played last year, but the only seem to show it in the big games (man u, arse, spuds, and chelski away) this season
And what does that say about the mentality of the players when they can only raise their game and performances for the high profile ties. They deserve all they get for that
liam2me
06-03-2007, 10:10 PM
And what does that say about the mentality of the players when they can only raise their game and performances for the high profile ties. They deserve all they get for that
very true, only players who seem to give a shit when its not a big game are tevez, green and noble with a mention for bowyer
Loftydog
06-03-2007, 10:17 PM
very true, only players who seem to give a shit when its not a big game are tevez, green and noble with a mention for bowyer
Tevez is probably gone in the summer you reckon?
liam2me
06-03-2007, 10:21 PM
Tevez is probably gone in the summer you reckon?
if we go down he's gone, if we stay up, well he does seem to have an appetite to stay so it boils down to whats in his contract
STEVIEG
11-03-2007, 04:04 PM
West Ham say that problem gambling within the squad is 'an area of concern' that they hope to 'eradicate'... meanwhile, still going strong is the club's exclusive endorsement deal with Pinnacle Casino. "Pinnacle Casino reflects the strong values our football club represents," West Ham director Scott Duxbury said back in September. (Observer)
liam2me
12-03-2007, 12:26 AM
West Ham say that problem gambling within the squad is 'an area of concern' that they hope to 'eradicate'... meanwhile, still going strong is the club's exclusive endorsement deal with Pinnacle Casino. "Pinnacle Casino reflects the strong values our football club represents," West Ham director Scott Duxbury said back in September. (Observer)
there's a much worse story than that in another paper today
legend76
12-03-2007, 10:50 AM
there's a much worse story than that in another paper today
apparantly it's true, Leicester City have confirmed it, Shaun Newton is going there on Loan.
liam2me
12-03-2007, 11:29 AM
apparantly it's true, Leicester City have confirmed it, Shaun Newton is going there on Loan.
:-D
Superior
27-04-2007, 11:05 PM
We'll they've certainly got a much bigger fine than either of the two clubs have ever achieved.
liam2me
27-04-2007, 11:10 PM
We'll they've certainly got a much bigger fine than either of the two clubs have ever achieved.
was wondering who would drag this up, yup but we are also not one of the big 4 so it wasn't brushed under the carpet as usual
AmadeusDC
27-04-2007, 11:17 PM
was wondering who would drag this up, yup but we are also not one of the big 4 so it wasn't brushed under the carpet as usual
I dunno Liam, in one way West Ham fucked up big time with this transfer deal. Everyone knew it was shady as fuck and while that sort of thing would fly in South America things are a little different in England. The fine imho is related to the value of the 2 players involved. What is 5 million versus the transfer value (or even half) of Tevez and Mascherano? The owner doesn't seem to be grumbling too much about it. I'd almost say the board factored a guarenteed fine (all be it an smaller one) into things when they realized they had a shot at getting the 2 world class Argies on the cheap(ish). -AmadeusDC-
ho chi feen
27-04-2007, 11:20 PM
I dunno Liam, West Ham fucked up big time with this transfer deal. Everyone knew it was shady as fuck and while that sort of thing would fly in South America things are a little different in England. The fine imho is related to the value of the 2 players involved. What is 5 million versus the transfer value (or even half) of Tevez and Mascherano? The owner doesn't seem to be grumbling too much about it. I'd almost say the board factored a guarenteed fine (all be it an smaller one) into things when they realized they had a shot at getting the 2 world class Argies on the cheap(ish). -AmadeusDC-
It's incredible really. Could you imagine the uproar if a Serie A side was found guilty of doing the same and received such a lenient punishment? The precedent for dealing with these sort of occurences is the expunge all points won with the players in question on the pitch. Look at what happened AFC Wimbledon earlier in the season, for an honest mistake as opposed to a conspiracy like this. In this case, Tevez is free to play the remainder of the season- madness!
Superior
27-04-2007, 11:21 PM
I reckon West Ham got off lightly! They should have been docked points for certain. The only thing that saved them is that docking points would have left them relegated.
Superior
27-04-2007, 11:43 PM
For instance:
During the 1994 close season, Tottenham was found guilty of making illegal payments to players and given one of the most severe punishments in English football history: 12 points deducted for the 1994-95 season, a one year ban from the FA Cup, and a £600,000 fine. Alan Sugar protested against these penalties on the grounds that the people involved were no longer at the club, and the FA Cup ban and points deduction were both quashed.
Forsberg
27-04-2007, 11:50 PM
I reckon West Ham got off lightly! They should have been docked points for certain. The only thing that saved them is that docking points would have left them relegated.
They didn't dock them cos they're shitting themselves that West ham will do enough to stay up . Then with appeals and and possible legal implications , it could get very messy for the FA come the start of next season.
They took the easy way out. Heavy fine to make it look like they threw the book at them when , in fact they got off very lightly from what I can see.
homer jay
20-06-2007, 02:33 PM
pmub
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by AmadeusDC 17-05-2006 2.53am
btw.... i'll make a statement here that you can feel free to quote next year if things are going your way..............
West Ham will be more concerned with avoiding relegation next season than trying to even dream of C/L qualification and they will be considerably closer in terms of points to the relegation zone than the Champions next year!!
-AmadeusDC-
heh heh heh :D -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
21-06-2007, 05:36 PM
heh heh heh :D -AmadeusDC-
you said next year, i said 2013, bit of a difference (were ya not taught time when you were a kid?)
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 05:45 PM
you said next year, i said 2013, bit of a difference (were ya not taught time when you were a kid?)
Again, Nope!! This was what you said predicting the 2006-2007 league. The whole 2013 thing is a recent addition and just trying to buy you time. Surely they'll have one good season by then FFS. Although at that point you'll probably be supporting Pfizer United, AstroZenica City, GlaxoSmithKline Athletic or whoever you're working for. ;) -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
21-06-2007, 05:50 PM
Again, Nope!! This was what you said predicting the 2006-2007 league. The whole 2013 thing is a recent addition and just trying to buy you time. Surely they'll have one good season by then FFS. Although at that point you'll probably be supporting Pfizer United, AstroZenica City, GlaxoSmithKline Athletic or whoever you're working for. ;) -AmadeusDC-
really only a recent thing? what date was the original post? this (http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=11477 96&postcount=1) might help.
3 days after the end of the transfer window/signing of tevez, recent my arse
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 05:56 PM
really only a recent thing? what date was the original post? this (http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=11477 96&postcount=1) might help.
3 days after the end of the transfer window/signing of tevez, recent my arse
Nah, that was Kia's view not yours. Anyway, read back through the first 4 or 5 pages of this thread. I mean recently, finally, you've shown some little bit of ability to admit when you're wrong and trust me if you read back through the start of this you'll see that you weren't talking about 2013!! Perhaps I'm giving you too much credit though, hopefully I'm not. -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
21-06-2007, 06:11 PM
Nah, that was Kia's view not yours. Anyway, read back through the first 4 or 5 pages of this thread. I mean recently, finally, you've shown some little bit of ability to admit when you're wrong and trust me if you read back through the start of this you'll see that you weren't talking about 2013!! Perhaps I'm giving you too much credit though, hopefully I'm not. -AmadeusDC-
ha, one person says i endorsed what he said by posting it, and now you say nah it's completely different, FFS ye anti-west ham bandwagoners need to get your stories straight
where was i not talking about the future at the start of this thread?
Sound
21-06-2007, 06:13 PM
The last time I saw anyone put it up to Amadeus like this was Naff. That resulted in Naff being served one of the greatest ownings in sports forum history.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 06:22 PM
The last time I saw anyone put it up to Amadeus like this was Naff. That resulted in Naff being served one of the greatest ownings in sports forum history.
i don't scare easily, if this is the tactic
Sound
21-06-2007, 06:23 PM
i don't scare easily, if this is the tactic
Tactic?
I couldn't give a fiddlers. Just reporting the facts.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 06:26 PM
Tactic?
I couldn't give a fiddlers. Just reporting the facts.
you couldn't give a fiddlers yet you still decided to post, looks like you could give a fiddlers, doesn't it?
Sound
21-06-2007, 06:28 PM
you couldn't give a fiddlers yet you still decided to post, looks like you could give a fiddlers, doesn't it?
You over-estimate the entertainment quotient of my job.
And I didn't say he was going to serve you, I'm just pointing out that he did do to someone else in a similar situation.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 06:32 PM
You over-estimate the entertainment quotient of my job.
And I didn't say he was going to serve you, I'm just pointing out that he did do to someone else in a similar situation.
and i am just pointing out that by posting you do indeed care, no matter how little, therefore your post saying i couldn't give a fiddlers was inaccurate (hey i'm bored too)
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 08:05 PM
We'll look like some eejits in 2013 if West Ham are bigger than Man Utd & Chelsea.
How many league titles and European Cups do they need in the next 6 years to catch up?
Superior
21-06-2007, 08:26 PM
We'll look like some eejits in 2013 if West Ham are bigger than Man Utd & Chelsea.
How many league titles and European Cups do they need in the next 6 years to catch up?
All of them. Plus the power-ups at the ends of levels 3, 9 and 11.
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 08:28 PM
They'd better get a good start. They need AT LEAST 2 league titles next season.
STEVIEG
21-06-2007, 08:30 PM
They'd better get a good start. They need AT LEAST 2 league titles next season.
Lucas Neill is a Leader of Men so it could happen
liam2me
21-06-2007, 08:36 PM
We'll look like some eejits in 2013 if West Ham are bigger than Man Utd & Chelsea.
How many league titles and European Cups do they need in the next 6 years to catch up?
this your get out clause?
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 08:41 PM
How else are they going to be bigger than them? :confused:
Surely to judge the size of a club a number of things come into play:
1 - Silverware.
2 - Fanbase.
3 - Finance.
If West Ham are to be bigger that Man United, do they not have to eclipse them on each of these?
Or are they just going to add letters onto their name?
Westchester Hammersmith United?
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:03 PM
How else are they going to be bigger than them? :confused:
Surely to judge the size of a club a number of things come into play:
1 - Silverware.
2 - Fanbase.
3 - Finance.
If West Ham are to be bigger that Man United, do they not have to eclipse them on each of these?
Or are they just going to add letters onto their name?
Westchester Hammersmith United?
ok so by your accounts, chelsea are nowhere near a big a club as liverpool, nor is Man utd, because overall liverpool have more titles, even though they've only won 2 major trophy's in the last 5 years? would ya fuck off
STEVIEG
21-06-2007, 09:04 PM
ok so by your accounts, chelsea are nowhere near a big a club as liverpool, nor is Man utd, because overall liverpool have more titles, even though they've only won 2 major trophy's in the last 5 years? would ya fuck off
You are using only one of his criteria there, silverware
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 09:09 PM
ok so by your accounts, chelsea are nowhere near a big a club as liverpool, nor is Man utd, because overall liverpool have more titles, even though they've only won 2 major trophy's in the last 5 years? would ya fuck off
Another which should be added to the list is Tradition.
Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, even West Ham have.
Chelsea do not.
STEVIEG
21-06-2007, 09:11 PM
Another which should be added to the list is Tradition.
Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, even West Ham have.
Chelsea do not.
Arguably
They have competed in Europe for a long time and won a league even before Liverpool, the most successful English side
They were decent about 50 years ago in fairness
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:15 PM
You are using only one of his criteria there, silverware
fine, add financial we have the 3rd biggest transfer kitty this summer
fans, chelsea and arsenal haven't got the same fan base we have, and i very much doubt man u or liverpool would still have 98% attendance if they were in a relegation dogfight or in the championship like we had. we're having to move to a 60,000 seater stadium and our season ticket sales have already exceeded last years (23,000, 70% of the stadium)
so on 3 of the 4 (4 of 5 if you include TBT) criteria, we tick the boxes, and ye still think we're a small club? pfff
Forsberg
21-06-2007, 09:16 PM
Another which should be added to the list is Tradition.
Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, even West Ham have.
Chelsea do not.
How can you quamtify tradition ?
Tell me how Man U have more "tradition" than Chelsea .
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 09:30 PM
How can you quamtify tradition ?
Tell me how Man U have more "tradition" than Chelsea .
I hope thats rhetoric
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 09:30 PM
fine, add financial we have the 3rd biggest transfer kitty this summer
fans, chelsea and arsenal haven't got the same fan base we have, and i very much doubt man u or liverpool would still have 98% attendance if they were in a relegation dogfight or in the championship like we had. we're having to move to a 60,000 seater stadium and our season ticket sales have already exceeded last years (23,000, 70% of the stadium)
so on 3 of the 4 (4 of 5 if you include TBT) criteria, we tick the boxes, and ye still think we're a small club? pfff
You've got the 3rd biggest transfer kitty this summer? So what? That doesn't make you better, it only makes you the team with the 3rd richest transfer kitty.
Man U & Liverpool aren't in a relegation dogfight, like ye, BECAUSE THEY ARE BIG CLUBS.
You tick no boxes.............
Have you more silverware than Man Utd? No.
Have you more of a fan base than Man Utd? No.
Are you richer than Man Utd? No.
To become bigger than Man Utd, you will need those three things. Not the ramblings of a lunatic on a message board....you will need those three things.
You've done some serious straw clutching there
Sound
21-06-2007, 09:33 PM
and i am just pointing out that by posting you do indeed care, no matter how little, therefore your post saying i couldn't give a fiddlers was inaccurate (hey i'm bored too)
Jesus wept, logic really is a stranger to you.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:36 PM
Jesus wept, logic really is a stranger to you.
that was actually extremely logical, if it was beyond you then you need help
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:37 PM
You've got the 3rd biggest transfer kitty this summer? So what? That doesn't make you better, it only makes you the team with the 3rd richest transfer kitty.
Man U & Liverpool aren't in a relegation dogfight, like ye, BECAUSE THEY ARE BIG CLUBS.
You tick no boxes.............
Have you more silverware than Man Utd? No.
Have you more of a fan base than Man Utd? No.
Are you richer than Man Utd? No.
To become bigger than Man Utd, you will need those three things. Not the ramblings of a lunatic on a message board....you will need those three things.
You've done some serious straw clutching there
ha, yeah if you think that none of that is relevant then you are a complete idiot, and no amount of bold text will change that
Sound
21-06-2007, 09:37 PM
that was actually extremely logical, if it was beyond you then you need help
Afraid not.
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 09:40 PM
ha, yeah if you think that none of that is relevant then you are a complete idiot, and no amount of bold text will change that
If you can't answer yes to the 3 questions Liam, then you're not a bigger club than Man United.
Maybe by the time you have that Pharmacy degree you can come back to me and we'll have a wager on it.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:42 PM
Afraid not.
ok then lets summarise, you posted a comment, then said you actually weren't interested, yet you were interested enough to post a comment in the first place. if that doesn't make sense to you, then seek help, FFS even the tranny would agree with me on that
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 09:43 PM
Actually a quick one here Liam.
Between Liverpool & Man United, which club is the bigger of the two. And give me 3 reasons why you answered what you answer.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:47 PM
If you can't answer yes to the 3 questions Liam, then you're not a bigger club than Man United.
Maybe by the time you have that Pharmacy degree you can come back to me and we'll have a wager on it.
here lad we are richer then man utd, how much debt do they have again? ~£600m? thats one box ticked
genuine fan base (how many of utd's fans would still be there if they were in trouble?) we have more
silverwear is our only catch
you aren't really up to this are ya
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 09:49 PM
genuine fan base (how many of utd's fans would still be there if they were in trouble?) we have more
Sweet jesus!!!!
Dear God!!!
Holy Crap!!! etc.
Stop now please.............. .....
-AmadeusDC-
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:53 PM
Actually a quick one here Liam.
Between Liverpool & Man United, which club is the bigger of the two. And give me 3 reasons why you answered what you answer.
man utd, more trophies recently, able to attract a better quality of player and better in the league, the bread and butter of any football team
STEVIEG
21-06-2007, 09:54 PM
genuine fan base (how many of utd's fans would still be there if they were in trouble?) we have more
Read up on the 1975 season
A relegated Manchester United were still the best suported team in England
They have been consistently well supported though a lot of crap periods in their history
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:55 PM
Sweet jesus!!!!
Dear God!!!
Holy Crap!!! etc.
Stop now please.............. .....
-AmadeusDC-
if you can honestly say that man u would have the same number of fans if they were in trouble, then you should be committed.
the genuine utd fans left when they were taken over by the yanks, and there weren't too many of them
liam2me
21-06-2007, 09:57 PM
Read up on the 1975 season
A relegated Manchester United were still the best suported team in England
They have been consistently well supported though a lot of crap periods in their history
can you prove that? i mean anyone could come up with a statement like that and how would we know it's true or not?
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 09:57 PM
genuine fan base (how many of utd's fans would still be there if they were in trouble?) we have more
Which club has the largest support at their home ground throughout a whole season in the old division two. The record still stands today even when the Championship is taken into account.
Forsberg
21-06-2007, 09:58 PM
genuine fan base (how many of utd's fans would still be there if they were in trouble?) we have more
Is there some sort of certificate or stamp of authentication that you recieve for being a "genuine" fan???
cos I'd like one
Forsberg
21-06-2007, 09:59 PM
..
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 10:00 PM
can you prove that? i mean anyone could come up with a statement like that and how would we know it's true or not?
It's a fact, that's why I said STOP NOW!!!! I guess I'm going to have to find it but you're way out of your depth here. Saying West Ham have more fans than Manchester United. Dear god man!!!
-AmadeusDC-
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 10:04 PM
can you prove that? i mean anyone could come up with a statement like that and how would we know it's true or not?
Can you prove United couldn't pull the same crowd if they were relegated? No. Didn't think so.
man utd, more trophies recently, able to attract a better quality of player and better in the league, the bread and butter of any football team
Is it sinking in yet? No?
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 10:05 PM
http://messageboards.aol.co m/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId =554808&articleId=2993&func=6&channel=uksport&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false
Oh god yes, West Ham are a little bit down that list no? :D
-AmadeusDC-
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 10:07 PM
When United won the league in 1956, they had the highest average home attendance in the league, a record that had been held by Newcastle United for the previous few years.
Following the Munich air disaster in 1958, more people began to support United and many started to go to matches. This caused United's support to swell and is one reason why United have had the highest league attendances in English football for almost every season since then, even as a Second Division side in 1974-75
MonTheHoops
21-06-2007, 10:07 PM
You're forgetting that there's 13,000,000 people in London amadeus. 12,000,000 will start supporting West Ham when they're bigger than United, which will be in another 3 weeks by the looks of things.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:09 PM
http://messageboards.aol.co m/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId =554808&articleId=2993&func=6&channel=uksport&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false
Oh god yes, West Ham are a little bit down that list no? :D
-AmadeusDC-
you got that from an AOL message board! fucking reliability if i ever saw it.
the standard had up the stats there around march, west ham had 98% attendance over the last 2 years
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:11 PM
laugh all ye want boyo's, like i said, i'll be here to say i told ye so when the time comes, ye will no doubt be hiding, good to see ye can handle an argument on ye're own BTW
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 10:11 PM
you got that from an AOL message board! fucking reliability if i ever saw it.
the standard had up the stats there around march, west ham had 98% attendance over the last 2 years
FACT
Following the Munich air disaster in 1958, more people began to support United and many started to go to matches. This caused United's support to swell and is one reason why United have had the highest league attendances in English football for almost every season since then, even as a Second Division side in 1974-75
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 10:13 PM
the standard had up the stats there around march, west ham had 98% attendance over the last 2 years
What difference does that make, it's a smaller stadium!! If Man United played in a ground the size of Upton Park they'd sell it out twice over almost every week. -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:14 PM
FACT
Following the Munich air disaster in 1958, more people began to support United and many started to go to matches. This caused United's support to swell and is one reason why United have had the highest league attendances in English football for almost every season since then, even as a Second Division side in 1974-75
making it red doesn't make it true, nor does making it bold and underlining it, not that i doubt ya, but do ya have a link to prove it? FFS that's the minimum expected around here like
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:15 PM
What difference does that make, it's a smaller stadium!! If Man United played in a ground the size of Upton Park they'd sell it out twice over almost every week. -AmadeusDC-
we could too, hence the moving to a bigger stadium
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 10:17 PM
making it red doesn't make it true, nor does making it bold and underlining it, not that i doubt ya, but do ya have a link to prove it? FFS that's the minimum expected around here like
The majority of football fans know that Manchester United when in the second division in 74/75 season has the highest average home attendance in English football.
It doesnt require a link.
Forsberg
21-06-2007, 10:19 PM
The majority of football fans know that Manchester United when in the second division in 74/75 season has the highest average home attendance in English football.
Liam only started following soccer 3 years ago TBT. He wouldn't know.
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:22 PM
The majority of football fans know that Manchester United when in the second division in 74/75 season has the highest average home attendance in English football.
It doesnt require a link.
again that maybe true, but if you're going to make a comment you need a link, rookie mistake
Forsberg
21-06-2007, 10:23 PM
again that maybe true, but if you're going to make a comment you need a link, rookie mistake
Liam ..as you're at it , why don't you provide a link to back up your claims that West Ham have more genuine supporters than Man U?
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:26 PM
Liam ..as you're at it , why don't you provide a link to back up your claims that West Ham have more genuine supporters than Man U?
unfortunately that cannot be proven
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 10:27 PM
we could too, hence the moving to a bigger stadium
"West Ham could consistently sell out Upton Park twice over????" Just stop now, you're embarrassing yourself fella. For gods sake, it's great having rose coloured glasses for your club and all that but you're just talking shite now.
-AmadeusDC-
Forsberg
21-06-2007, 10:31 PM
"West Ham could consistently sell out Upton Park twice over????" Just stop now, you're embarrassing yourself fella. For gods sake, it's great having rose coloured glasses for your club and all that but you're just talking shite now.
-AmadeusDC-
That's why theri attendance was 98% :rolleyes:
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 10:33 PM
again that maybe true, but if you're going to make a comment you need a link, rookie mistake
It's common knowledge to any knowledgable football fan
http://www.man-united.info/man_united_support.h tml
"This swelled Manchester United's already impressive support and is one reason why Man United have had the highest league attendances in English football for almost every season since then, even as a second division side in 1974-75."
http://www.red11.org/mufc/history.htm
Average home gate of 48,388 - a new record for the Second Division
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/low/sports_talk/1951340.stm
When Manchester United were in the Second division in 1974-75, were they still the best supported team in the country?
They certainly were, with an average home League attendance of 48,388. The top average in the First Division that season was Liverpool's 45,966.
How many more examples do you want young Sir?
-AmadeusDC-
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 10:37 PM
here lad we are richer then man utd, how much debt do they have again? ~£600m? thats one box ticked
genuine fan base (how many of utd's fans would still be there if they were in trouble?) we have more
silverwear is our only catch
you aren't really up to this are ya
Manchester United had not won the league between the years of 1967 and 1993. Please find below stats for average attendances at Old Trafford during those 26 years.
Please note that in 14 of the 23 seasons United finished outside the top four. On one occasion they were relegated and the 1974/75 season was spent in the old second division.
Year-------------Highest--Opp-----Average--Attendance Position in England--
1969-70 Old Tr---59,879--Leeds---49,859------------------ 1st
1970-71 Old Tr---599365 Leeds---45,020------------------- 2nd
1971-72 Old Tr---56,362 City---46,376--------------------- 2nd
1972-73 Old Tr---61,676 City---48,729--------------------- 1st
1973-74 Old Tr---60,025 Leeds---42,721-------------------- 1st
1974-75 Old Tr---60,585 Sunderlnd---48,388---------------- 1st
1975-76 Old Tr---61,879 Everton---54,750-------------------1st
1976-77 Old Tr---60,723 Tottenham---53,709---------------- 1st
1977-78 Old Tr---58,398 City 41,625--------------------------1st
1978-79 Old Tr---56,139 Birminghm---46,430----------------- 1st
1979-80 Old Tr---58,348 Leeds----51,607-------------------- 1st
1980-81 Old Tr---57,049 Liverpool---45,071------------------ 1st
1981-82 Old Tr---57,830 Man City---44,570------------------ 1st
1982-83 Old Tr---57,397 Liverpool---41,552------------------ 1st
1983-84 Old Tr---56,121 Liverpool---42,533------------------ 1st
1984-85 Old Tr---56,638 Liverpool---42,881------------------ 1st
1985-86 Old Tr---54,575 Tottenham---46,321---------------- 1st
1986-87 Old Tr---54,103 Liverpool---40,625------------------ 1st
1987-88 Old Tr---48,087 Tottenham---39,216---------------- 2nd
1988-89 Old Tr---46,377 QPR---36,847---------------------- 2nd
1989-90 Old Tr---47,245 Arsenal---39,077------------------- 1st
1990-91 Old Tr---47,485 Aston V---43,242------------------- 1st
1991-92 Old Tr---47,576 Nott For---44,985------------------- 1st
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:38 PM
"West Ham could consistently sell out Upton Park twice over????" Just stop now, you're embarrassing yourself fella. For gods sake, it's great having rose coloured glasses for your club and all that but you're just talking shite now.
-AmadeusDC-
yeah we could, otherwise why would we be moving into a stadium twice as big, engage a braincell on that one
Professor Piehead
21-06-2007, 10:42 PM
"West Ham could consistently sell out Upton Park twice over????" Just stop now, you're embarrassing yourself fella. For gods sake, it's great having rose coloured glasses for your club and all that but you're just talking shite now.
-AmadeusDC-
:shock:
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 10:47 PM
Upton Park capacity = 35,647
Double = 71,296 (still less than Old Trafford btw).
And when is this move to a new stadium taking place? I want you to show me the plans they have for this 70,000+ seater stadium. And no, not a 45,000 seater or even a 50,000 seater. You said double and trust me the way football is these days they'd build it if the demand was there. -AmadeusDC-
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:57 PM
Upton Park capacity = 35,647
Double = 71,296 (still less than Old Trafford btw).
And when is this move to a new stadium taking place? I want you to show me the plans they have for this 70,000+ seater stadium. And no, not a 45,000 seater or even a 50,000 seater. You said double and trust me the way football is these days they'd build it if the demand was there. -AmadeusDC-
demand is there ya silly bollix, the new owners have only been in charge 6 months, they were first trying to move into the new Olympic stadium (did ya miss that?) but ken wants an athletics only legacy, so we've been looking at sites near us and have selected the old parcel force site by west ham station as a viable site
jesus and you dare say i'm behind in football
liam2me
21-06-2007, 10:59 PM
actually lets take a step back for a minute, first you said that these views aren't mine
Nah, that was Kia's view not yours.
now you're saying they are? make up your mind, your flip-flopping like a fish out of water
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 11:01 PM
Liam (http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=15999 76&postcount=238)
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 11:02 PM
demand is there ya silly bollix, the new owners have only been in charge 6 months, they were first trying to move into the new Olympic stadium (did ya miss that?) but ken wants an athletics only legacy, so we've been looking at sites near us and have selected the old parcel force site by west ham station as a viable site
jesus and you dare say i'm behind in football
Show me where it says that West Ham are building a 70,000+ stadium!
I'm not doubting that they'll move at some point or that the capacity will be higher than Upton Park (hardly the biggest stadium anyway) but there is no frickin way they'll build a 70,000+ seater stadium. They just don't have the demand you see. If they did build it, it'd just end up with empty spaces all over the shop destroying the atmosphere for every game except when the big boys like Manchester United come to town. -AmadeusDC-
-AmadeusDC-
liam2me
21-06-2007, 11:03 PM
Liam (http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=15999 76&postcount=238)
thats my name, don't wear it out, again link to back it up, rookie error
BTW, why are sunderland highlighted?
liam2me
21-06-2007, 11:07 PM
Show me where it says that West Ham are building a 70,000+ stadium!
I'm not doubting that they'll move at some point or that the capacity will be higher than Upton Park (hardly the biggest stadium anyway) but there is no frickin way they'll build a 70,000+ seater stadium. They just don't have the demand you see. If they did build it, it'd just end up with empty spaces all over the shop destroying the atmosphere for every game except when the big boys like Manchester United come to town. -AmadeusDC-
-AmadeusDC-
we wanted to move into the new olympic stadium (80,000 seater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Stadium_%28L ondon%29)), but ken wants it reduced by 25,000 seats, at least 10,000 too small,and he has since said he only wants athletics there, hence the move, FFS we have already started the feasibility studies and located a site
Throughout 2006, talk was rife of West Ham moving to the Olympic Stadium of the 2012 Olympics, with speculation increasing after new club owner Eggert Magnusson confirmed he was interested in a move there. However, talks broke down between the club and the Olympic Comitee after it was announced that the Stadium would be reduced to 25,000 all seater after the Olympic Games, which is 10,000 less than what West Ham wanted, and that the stadium would be keeping its running track, leaving supporters further away from the pitch and killing the atmosphere within the stadium on matchday. Recent rumours have suggested that West Ham could move to the Parcelforce depot near to West Ham Underground/mainline station.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boleyn_Ground
disbelieving it because you don't like being wrong, doesn't make it untrue, keep up boyo
FL4ZGN
21-06-2007, 11:09 PM
thats my name, don't wear it out, again link to back it up, rookie error
BTW, why are sunderland highlighted?
I'd ask for an appology but with your total lack of knowledge for anything other that west ham related football news i dont really need one.
Badly exposed.
It was the 1974/75 season in the second division.
Figures based on Football League/FA Premier League attendance figures (http://red11.org/mufc/stats/attendances.htm)
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 11:09 PM
thats my name, don't wear it out, again link to back it up, rookie error
BTW, why are sunderland highlighted?
I gave you 3 links including one from the BBC on the previous page but you just plain ignored the post. Typical!
As for Sunderland being in bold it's cause that was the year they (Manchester United) were in the Second Division ya dim edjit. They played Sunderland in the highest attended game at OT that season.
-AmadeusDC-
AmadeusDC
21-06-2007, 11:12 PM
However, talks broke down between the club and the Olympic Comitee after it was announced that the Stadium would be reduced to 25,000 all seater after the Olympic Games, which is 10,000 less than what West Ham wanted.
hahhahahahahaha. You muppet!!! Killed by your own quote. :D
-AmadeusDC-
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