Official West Ham Thread

[liam2me]

there's a few lads coming through at the minute, collison (who i think has gone on loan) kyle reid, tompkins and sears.

we also have a young irish lad who should be breaking through soon

[Roman Abramovich]

there's a few lads coming through at the minute, collison (who i think has gone on loan)

no he isnt. and you a westham fan?

[kevinbitzz]

Is this now the official West 'Am thread?

[Roman Abramovich]

Is this now the official West 'Am thread?
of course.....they are going to be bigger than chelsea and man utd.

[TonyCochrane]

I find the appointment of that Italian lad from Brescia as director of football very strange. The media seem to be presenting it as Curbs's choice and he is spinning it that way but I can't see an old school English manager willingly giving up power like this. The new fellow will have significant input on transfers, youth setups etc. Was he forced into it by the more cosmopolitan owners I wonder?

[liam2me]

no he isnt. and you a westham fan?
worst attempt at pwnage EVER.

you want to catch me out you must try harder, you current attempts to get back at me for making you my bitch are pathetic.

(note the word think in my sentence BTW)

oh and ya clammed up fairly quickly earlier on when i re-posted that pic from the emirates

new sheriff, more like my personal bitch gimp slave

oh dear :lol!:

[liam2me]

I find the appointment of that Italian lad from Brescia as director of football very strange. The media seem to be presenting it as Curbs's choice and he is spinning it that way but I can't see an old school English manager willingly giving up power like this. The new fellow will have significant input on transfers, youth setups etc. Was he forced into it by the more cosmopolitan owners I wonder?
personally i think it's an attempt to force curbs out, something i welcome

[STEVIEG]

Can he do back flips?

[Roman Abramovich]

sad to see the new youngster trying to con the ref with the worst non slap in the face ever.

if i was his manager id drop him for a few games.
id be ashamed to be a hammer.

such a shame.

[liam2me]

sad to see the new youngster trying to con the ref with the worst non slap in the face ever.

if i was his manager id drop him for a few games.
id be ashamed to be a hammer.

such a shame.
hehehe, coming from a pseudo-arsenal fan thats very very rich lol

[legend76]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5309992.stm

if he wants to win the CL then we won't be a feeder club, its a great time to be a hammer

(at least i can say i was here when we were in the championship, unlike certain chelski fans)

BUMP !!!!!!

[ho chi feen]

BUMP !!!!!!

RMWXyEHoN88

[legend76]

Ho Chi Feen was looking for this thread but couldn't find it.

Maybe that because Liam changed the name of the thread ???? LOL

anyways here's a reminder of Kia Joorabchian's madness

West Ham on the up - Joorabchian

Kia Joorabchian, who has been linked with a multi-million pound takeover of West Ham, believes the club can become the biggest in England by 2013.
Joorabchian helped bring Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano to Upton Park.

He is a friend of Georgian businessman Badri Patarkatsishvili, who has confirmed his interest in the club.

Joorabchian told the News of the World: "In the near future West Ham can be bigger than Chelsea and maybe in seven years challenge Manchester United."

He added: "Their manager Alan Pardew can take West Ham into new territory, to challenge for the Champions League and even the title.

"United are obviously an exception. Like Real Madrid they are huge all over the world but there is massive potential at West Ham.

"Why? Because the club has such passionate supporters and a fantastic history. As far as I'm concerned they have got a much bigger worldwide fan base than Chelsea.

"That goes back to part of the history of the club - having three World Cup winners in Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst and Martin Peters."

Argentina World Cup stars Tevez and Mascherano joined the Hammers in a shock deadline-day move from Brazilian side Corinthians on Thursday.

West Ham confirmed to the stock exchange on Friday that they are having "exploratory discussions" over a possible takeover.

The identity of the group behind the bid has not been revealed - but under new proposals set to be adopted by Fifa, they will not be able to remain anonymous.

World football's governing body is determined for there to be transparency regarding the ownership of clubs and will soon no longer allow investors to purchase teams under the name of a business, while they themselves remain anonymous.

Uefa treasurer and Dutch FA president Mathieu Sprenger was recently asked by Fifa to investigate investment funds and mystery backers buying into football clubs.

Sprenger told the Mail on Sunday: "I have heard about the news reports concerning West Ham. Our proposals are that all clubs must show who owns them.

"It will not be enough simply for them to show that a company owns them. They will have to show who is behind that company as well.

"The Fifa congress unanimously supported these proposals in July so there is support from all the confederations for this.

"The Fifa president Sepp Blatter wants them to be written at the Congress next July.

"It doesn't matter if a takeover happens before the rules are instituted - from next year all clubs would have to show their ownership and who is behind them.

"If he (Joorabchian) took over at West Ham, he would have to show that. For the integrity of competitions, it has to be made clear who is in control."

[legend76]

great to see Julian Dicks is still a Hammers fan

http://www.kumb.com/lib/kumb07/your_shout.jpg

http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=123324

[legend76]

It looks like Anton Ferdinand is set to leave West Ham to join a BIG London club

[liam2me]

It looks like Anton Ferdinand is set to leave West Ham to join a BIG London club
wouldn't be surprised if curbishley does sell him, the mans an idiot

[legend76]

wouldn't be surprised if curbishley does sell him, the mans an idiot

Tottenham have stepped up their interest in West Ham defender Anton Ferdinand and are on the verge of sealing a £6million deal.


The 22-year-old, who has been on Spurs sporting director Damien Comolli's wanted list for the past two years, has told friends he is planning to make the switch.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1025410/Spurs-close-6m-deal-West-Ham-defender-Anton-Ferdinand-patch-defence.html

[VzN]

I thought they said 'big' club.

[legend76]

It looks like Anton Ferdinand is set to leave West Ham to join a BIG London club

I thought they said 'big' club.

Yep I said BIG club. remember what this thread used to be called??

[ho chi feen]

Yep I said BIG club. remember what this thread used to be called??

No, what was it called?

[ebenezer]

I don't really like West Ham.

Anyway, we are a much bigger club.

[ho chi feen]

July 30, 2008

Alan Curbishley: winning the sack race

http://timesonline.typepad. com/fanzine_fanzone/images/2008/07/30/alancurbishley_400.j pg (http://timesonline.typepad. com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/30/alancurbishley_400.j pg)
This season, West Ham United are set to stomp all over two of their quirkiest traditions. If the bookies are to be believed, they're going to sack their fourth manager in seven years, and replace him with a foreigner.
In the first 88 years of the club's existence, West Ham only had five managers. Since then, they've entered a relative hire-and-fire frenzy, with six more in less than 20 years, but they still hold the record of fewest managers amongst major clubs. They've also never employed a foreign national in the top job, with Lou Macari - a Scotsman of Italian ancestry - the most exotic name on the list. And yet Alan Curbishley is listed as anything up to 4-1 favourite to be the first Premier League manager out the door, and the number one choice to replace him is the Croat, Slaven Bilic. Nobody seems surprised by this.
And yet...

When Alan Curbishley came to the club it was in the middle of a crisis. Relegation was a real threat, and the signings of Tevez and Mascherano seemed to have done more harm than good. Curbishley dragged West Ham away from the brink with a thrilling last-day win at Old Trafford, keeping his composure amid the gathering clouds of the Joorabchian affair, and they finished 15th.
At the end of the following season, West Ham finished five places higher. No other team improved their placing more, so surely Alan should be feeling pretty secure.
And yet...
Curbishley's got a popularity problem. The thing is, he's just a bit boring. He plays one up, he's unadventurous, he sounds like an apologetic door-to-door salesman. At Charlton, his team gave the impression that they'd work hard to avoid relegation but, once 40 points had been achieved, they'd give up and start thinking about the summer. The characteristic "season of two halves" that Charlton used to have under his management - first half good, second half dreadful - seemed to be reborn at Upton Park last year. A hideous sequence of defeats - most of them 4-0 - left the club drifting in mid-table.
And yet...
Last year, West Ham had a hideous injury list. Kieron Dyer, Craig Bellamy, Dean Ashton, Julien Faubert, Scott Parker, Calum Davenport, Fredrik Ljungberg... pretty much every senior player spent some of the season watching the game from the stand in a suit and fat-knot tie. This season, with a full squad to choose from, Curbishley can show the world just what he had in mind when he bought all those players. On paper, he looks to have a decent side so there's a lot to look forward to.
And yet...
The omens are not good. In the close season, the club has tried to offload some of the overpaid stars who were signed in desperation two seasons ago. So far, only Nolberto Solano has gone. One of the men responsible for the panic buying - Eggert Magnusson - has already left. The other - Curbishley - is still here. Tellingly, he has been given no real money to spend this summer. It's a tacit vote of no confidence and it implies that, if money is available, it will be given to the next man to spend.
So when will he go, and why is Bilic everyone's first choice to replace him?
Find out next time...


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[liam2me]

July 30, 2008

Alan Curbishley: winning the sack race

http://timesonline.typepad. com/fanzine_fanzone/images/2008/07/30/alancurbishley_400.j pg (http://timesonline.typepad. com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/30/alancurbishley_400.j pg)
This season, West Ham United are set to stomp all over two of their quirkiest traditions. If the bookies are to be believed, they're going to sack their fourth manager in seven years, and replace him with a foreigner.
In the first 88 years of the club's existence, West Ham only had five managers. Since then, they've entered a relative hire-and-fire frenzy, with six more in less than 20 years, but they still hold the record of fewest managers amongst major clubs. They've also never employed a foreign national in the top job, with Lou Macari - a Scotsman of Italian ancestry - the most exotic name on the list. And yet Alan Curbishley is listed as anything up to 4-1 favourite to be the first Premier League manager out the door, and the number one choice to replace him is the Croat, Slaven Bilic. Nobody seems surprised by this.
And yet...

When Alan Curbishley came to the club it was in the middle of a crisis. Relegation was a real threat, and the signings of Tevez and Mascherano seemed to have done more harm than good. Curbishley dragged West Ham away from the brink with a thrilling last-day win at Old Trafford, keeping his composure amid the gathering clouds of the Joorabchian affair, and they finished 15th.
At the end of the following season, West Ham finished five places higher. No other team improved their placing more, so surely Alan should be feeling pretty secure.

nothing to do with curbishley, more like tevez, noble, zamora and green fighting for a club that treated them like they've never been treated


And yet...
Curbishley's got a popularity problem. The thing is, he's just a bit boring. He plays one up, he's unadventurous, he sounds like an apologetic door-to-door salesman. At Charlton, his team gave the impression that they'd work hard to avoid relegation but, once 40 points had been achieved, they'd give up and start thinking about the summer. The characteristic "season of two halves" that Charlton used to have under his management - first half good, second half dreadful - seemed to be reborn at Upton Park last year. A hideous sequence of defeats - most of them 4-0 - left the club drifting in mid-table.

nail on the head right there, and hopefully in the coffin

And yet...
Last year, West Ham had a hideous injury list. Kieron Dyer, Craig Bellamy, Dean Ashton, Julien Faubert, Scott Parker, Calum Davenport, Fredrik Ljungberg... pretty much every senior player spent some of the season watching the game from the stand in a suit and fat-knot tie. This season, with a full squad to choose from, Curbishley can show the world just what he had in mind when he bought all those players. On paper, he looks to have a decent side so there's a lot to look forward to.

why did he buy so many old, injury prone players?? yes they're good, but they have to be on the pitch to show that

And yet...
The omens are not good. In the close season, the club has tried to offload some of the overpaid stars who were signed in desperation two seasons ago. So far, only Nolberto Solano has gone. One of the men responsible for the panic buying - Eggert Magnusson - has already left. The other - Curbishley - is still here. Tellingly, he has been given no real money to spend this summer. It's a tacit vote of no confidence and it implies that, if money is available, it will be given to the next man to spend.
So when will he go, and why is Bilic everyone's first choice to replace him?
Find out next time...


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not sure about bilic, i think he's getting the rumours flying simply because he's an ex-player. he's been good with croatia though so could be good

good article though it would take a poor run of results for him to be sacked, i think they'll just see out his contract otherwise before they make a decision.

the cutbacks and staff trimmings behind the scenes have been unreal lately

[liam2me]

jesus i hate curbishley

blame everyone else and take fuck all responsibility yourself

http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=123478

http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=123477

[smugcat]

bookmark

[ho chi feen]

bookmark

The original title of this thread was 'West Ham to be bigger than Man U and Chelsea: Kia Joorabchian'...

:)

[liam2me]

it's only half time and that cunt curbishley has taken off a striker and put on a defensive midfielder to get a draw. i hate that man

[Forsberg]

it's only half time and that cunt curbishley has taken off a striker and put on a defensive midfielder to get a draw. i hate that man

Well they are down to ten men

[liam2me]

Well they are down to ten men
and it's backfired spectacularly, 2-0 to man city. hope this is the beginning of the end for him

[MonTheHoops]

3-0. Jesus, a stroll for City and they didn't even have a recognised fromt pair today.

[liam2me]

and it's backfired spectacularly, 2-0 to man city. hope this is the beginning of the end for him
3-0. bye bye curbishley

[liam2me]

jesus curbishley makes me scream

West Ham manager Alan Curbishley says the club have accepted a bid from Sunderland for Anton Ferdinand.

The 23-year-old defender is mulling over Sunderland's offer, with the transfer fee reportedly as much as £8m.

Curbishley told BBC Radio 5 Live: "The board have accepted the bid - he's not renegotiated his contract - and the decision was taken out of my hands.

"I don't know where Anton is in terms of signing for Sunderland but once the club accept the bid it moves on."

Ferdinand, the younger brother of Manchester United star Rio, signed a three-year contract extension in July 2005 and his current deal is due to expire in 2010.

Already without a number of injured defenders - Danny Gabbidon, James Collins, James Tomkins, George McCartney and Jonathan Spector - Curbishley is hoping to sign a defender before the transfer window closes at the end of the month.

"We are thin on the ground," said Curbishley. "If we lose another defender we will have to react to that."

pure bollocks, if curbs said he needed anton to stay the board wouldn't have accepted the bid. and i'd put money on it he would have re-negotiated his contract if it was a different manager in charge

[legend76]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5309992.stm

if he wants to win the CL then we won't be a feeder club, its a great time to be a hammer
(at least i can say i was here when we were in the championship, unlike certain chelski fans)

This is fucking excellent for West Ham alright !!!

[liam2me]

This is fucking excellent for West Ham alright !!!
yawn. you need new material to get me to bite

[liam2me]

watching MOTD, if curbishley stays, we will be fighting to avoid relegation this season

[Johnny Logan]

how shit are westham regardless of curbishley though.
ashton noble and green are probably the only ones worth a mention.

[liam2me]

how shit are westham regardless of curbishley though.
ashton noble and green are probably the only ones worth a mention.
we have some decent players, if they were all bloody fit. bellamy and dyer, even though they are much hated by most, aren't bad players + we have a few good youngsters coming through. Pardew did well with nobody players, curbishley has some decent players and he can't even scratch his arse without blaming the board and the players for the fact that it's itching

[Johnny Logan]

we have some decent players, if they were all bloody fit. bellamy and dyer, even though they are much hated by most, aren't bad players + we have a few good youngsters coming through. Pardew did well with nobody players, curbishley has some decent players and he can't even scratch his arse without blaming the board and the players for the fact that it's itching

maybe players pretend to be injured rather than play for the club.
i know id prefer to have a torn calf than play on front of most of the cunts who follow the hammers.

[smugcat]

The sooner we bring in Bilic the better! ;)

[ho chi feen]

The sooner we bring in Bilic the better! ;)

The sooner you start supporting our own big-ball code the better.

[legend76]

Curbs is gone !!!!!

This REALLY is fucking excellent for Liam

[Jim Comic]

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/mhqlgbkfmhkf/

[EL TORO]

Curbs is gone !!!!!

This REALLY is fucking excellent for Liam

In comes Bilic I would wager.

[kevinbitzz]

Paul Ince maybe?

[ANVIL]

Nah - Billic deffo ... or so my East London sources tell me.

[kevinbitzz]

Nah - Billic deffo ... or so my East London sources tell me.

i was extracting the urine.......:D

[Albert J Arbuckle II]

This is fucking excellent for Liam .....

[AmadeusDC]

Next stop Champions League glory.

-AmadeusDC-

[Rebelred]

King Kev perhaps :)

[kevinbitzz]

Nah - Billic deffo ... or so my East London sources tell me.

update,

My WHU contacts reckon Gianluca Nani will take over the team

[ANVIL]

update,

My WHU contacts reckon Gianluca Nani will take over the team

Yeah - and my cock's a kipper.

[MonTheHoops]

Arry could be back...

[kevinbitzz]

Yeah - and my cock's a kipper.

i'm only saying what i was told.....They think he will take over at some stage, maybe not straight away as it would look suspect if he took over now.


edit

just checked Paddy Power, Barack Obama is quoted at 5000/1

[Loftydog]

In comes Bilic I would wager.

In fairness, don't you think that the job managing Croatia is more satisfying?

[legend76]

In fairness, don't you think that the job managing Croatia is more satisfying?

He has ruled himself out today

[Professor Piehead]

Next stop Champions League glory.

-AmadeusDC-

Heh heh heh.

[liam2me]

this is fucking excellent for liam. delighted with it. looking forward to things being slightly better, at least until january when he can buy in better then some of the shite curbs did (although i do think bellamy will produce the goods)

[Albert J Arbuckle II]

This is fucking excellent for Liam .....

this is fucking excellent for liam. delighted with it. looking forward to things being slightly better, at least until january when he can buy in better then some of the shite curbs did (although i do think bellamy will produce the goods)

I knew it would be .... its like christmas came early for ya ....

[Rebelred]

so now that XL have gone bust surely this is a chance for the mighty 'Ammers to sign a massive multi million pound new sponsorship deal with one of the worlds largest brand names?

[Albert J Arbuckle II]

Bring back the Doc Martins sponsership deal .....

[Albert J Arbuckle II]

Also Steve Clarke hands in his resignation to Chelski to take up a position as right hand man to Zola .... Chelski have yet to accept it though

[ho chi feen]

so now that XL have gone bust surely this is a chance for the mighty 'Ammers to sign a massive multi million pound new sponsorship deal with one of the worlds largest brand names?

This is fucking excellent for Bjork:

It is believed that West Ham owner Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson may also have been personally affected by the company's failure, as he is the majority shareholder of Landsbanki, an Icelandic bank reported to have invested in XL.

[liam2me]

Also Steve Clarke hands in his resignation to Chelski to take up a position as right hand man to Zola .... Chelski have yet to accept it though
didn't think i would see the day that someone chelsea wanted would be turning them down for us. it's a good set up, v. happy with zola's appointment, is stark contrast to doom and gloom curbishley

[kevinbitzz]

so now that XL have gone bust surely this is a chance for the mighty 'Ammers to sign a massive multi million pound new sponsorship deal with one of the worlds largest brand names?

If XL paid their money upfront will they remain on the front of the shirts for the 3 years?

[PatMan]

If XL paid their money upfront will they remain on the front of the shirts for the 3 years?

I don't think XL did tho... West Ham have already stopped selling replica shirts because of the XL logo.

[kevinbitzz]

I don't think XL did tho... West Ham have already stopped selling replica shirts because of the XL logo.

nice one, I was just talking to one of my workmates, who said the deal is cancelled since yesterday..

[PatMan]

nice one, I was just talking to one of my workmates, who said the deal is cancelled since yesterday..

I have a feeling that there is a board member from XL who sits on the WHU board also. Can't see him being too popular at the Boleyn Ground if the money wasn't paid up!

[kevinbitzz]

ya, think there is some connection alright,

Just read that both teams in the WBA V WHU will have no sponsers on their jerseys

[PatMan]

Oops - WBA one up after 3 mins

[MonTheHoops]

ya, think there is some connection alright,


In't XL part owned by Eggwhatever?

[liam2me]

the current chairman has some financial implications with XL, but it's mainly his son, who is a major backer of XL who is in trouble, but has no relationship with WHU. XL paid £2.5m so far, for the first season, and to be fair, I would prefer the poor shite's stuck abroad got home rather then we get the next intallment, and as the season is only 4 games old, we'll get a new sponsor with as good as a year's value out of it. not too worried at all.

[PatMan]

Have read elsewhere that the WHU shirts just wore a patch over the logo for yesterdays game...

Surely not?

[kevinbitzz]

from the highlights it looked like it was just a patch over the XL

[KD Langer]

Have read elsewhere that the WHU shirts just wore a patch over the logo for yesterdays game...

Surely not?

its true.

[PatMan]

Wonder if the club shop will be selling the 'official' patch soon??

[ho chi feen]

Sheffield United confirm victory over West Ham in Tevez case

· Blades could be set for £30m windfall
· United fail to rule out further action from Premier League
· Former manager Warnock praises tribunal's ruling





John Ashdown (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/johnashdown)
guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/),
Tuesday September 23 2008 10:48 BST
Article history

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/09/23/paulellisAFP460.jpg Carlos Tevez celebrates his goal at Old Trafford that kept West Ham in the Premier League. Photograph: Paul Ellis/AFP/Getty Images

West Ham could be set for a £30m payout after an independent FA tribunal ruled in Sheffield United's favour over the Carlos Tevez affair, and the Blades have not given up hope that as a result of today's ruling the Premier League may also be forced to take action.
"The Blades began their legal fight for reinstatement some 16 months ago, which also included an arbitration hearing against the Premier League," said United in a statement on their website. "This award could now pose a question as to what the Premier League will do." United refused to comment further on the matter when questioned by guardian.co.uk today and it is unclear what further action the Premier League could take, with reinstatement an impossibility, though a hefty windfall from West Ham now seems likely.
United's claim dates back to the 2006-07 season when Tevez played a major role in helping West Ham avoid relegation, at the expense of Neil Warnock's side. In April 2007 the Hammers were fined £5.5m by the Premier League for breaching the rules in relation to Tevez and Javier Mascherano, but were not docked any points. Tevez was cleared to play on for the Hammers, Mascherano having departed for Liverpool in January, and the Argentine striker scored the only goal of the game in West Ham's 1-0 win over Manchester United on the last day of the season, a result that ensured the club stayed in the top flight.
United lost an initial appeal against their relegation in the summer of 2007, but continued their fight in an FA tribunal. That tribunal has today ruled in their favour.
"I can confirm that both clubs have been notified of the ruling," said the United chairman, Kevin McCabe. "The arbitration panel has awarded in our favour. The matter is still legally in process so I do not wish to comment any further until we have completed that process."
Warnock, the Blades' manager during the club's season in the top flight, said today that he feels justice has been done. "I think everyone in the country knows this is the right verdict," he told Sky Sports News. "This justifies what Kevin McCabe has said all along: that we were hard done by, that it wasn't done legally and we were fighting for our rights. It was scandalous. It changed one or two lives and it shouldn't have happened. This verdict puts your faith back into the justice system."
The Daily Mail today suggests that United are demanding £30,396,897.32 from the London club, with £21,788,795 of that figure considered to be compensation for the loss of Premier League status. The rest of the sum is based on reduced transfer fees, season ticket sales, merchandising and "lost business opportunities".
"We have no doubt that West Ham would have secured at least three fewer points over the 2006-07 season if Carlos Tevez had not been playing for the club," reads the tribunal's judgment according to the Mail. "Indeed, we think it more likely than not on the evidence we heard that even over the final two games of the season West Ham would have achieved at least three points less overall without Mr Tevez. He played outstandingly well in the two wins West Ham secured in those last two games."
West Ham are believed to be considering an appeal, but because both clubs and the FA agreed to the tribunal it is unclear whether or not they have the right to do so.
"We need to digest the full findings of the arbitration panel and will consult our lawyers on the next steps we might take before making any further comment," a West Ham spokesman told the BBC.

[ho chi feen]

West Ham face possible £30m payout after Tevez ruling



Edward Gibbes
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian),
Tuesday September 23 2008
Article history

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/09/23/Tevez460.jpg Carlos Tevez in action as a West Ham player. Photograph: Michael Regan/Action Images



West Ham face the possibility of a £30m damages payout after an independent tribunal found in Sheffield United's favour over the Carlos Tevez affair. Tevez played for the London club in the 2006-07 season while illegally registered and his displays were instrumental in West Ham avoiding relegation at the expense of the Blades, who finished three points behind them but with a superior goal difference.


The compensation figure has yet to be set but United are reported to be demanding £30,396,897. Of that amount, £21,788,795 is for lost television and marketing money, along with lost bonus payments for league positions. Also included is a claim of a loss of £4m on the sale of Phil Jagielka to Everton. The Yorkshire club say the defender was worth £8m at the time but he had a buyout clause in his contract of £4m if they were relegated. The rest of the claim is for ticket sales and other commercial activities.


The tribunal, chaired by Lord Griffiths, is expected to release its findings today. According to the Daily Mail, the judgment reads: "We have no doubt that West Ham would have secured at least three fewer points over the 2006-07 season if Carlos Tevez had not been playing for the club. Indeed, we think it more likely than not on the evidence we heard that even over the final two games of the season West Ham would have achieved at least three points less overall without Mr Tevez. He played outstandingly well in the two wins West Ham secured in those last two games."


West Ham's keenness to sell players this summer is now thought to have been prompted by a need to raise funds in anticipation of the judgment. Freddie Ljungberg was paid to leave to get him off the wage bill, Bobby Zamora and John Paintsil were sold to Fulham, and Richard Wright and Nolberto Solano also left. The sale of Anton Ferdinand and George McCartney to Sunderland, apparently against Alan Curbishley's wishes, precipitated the manager's resignation. Seven other players - including Dean Ashton, Craig Bellamy and Scott Parker - are also thought to have been available at the right price.


West Ham were fined £5.5m by an independent panel in April 2007 for the irregularities over Tevez's and Javier Mascherano's registrations - which centred on third-party ownership of the players, which is against Premier League rules - but no points were deducted and Tevez was cleared to play in the remaining league fixtures. He scored the winning goal against Manchester United - for whom he now plays - which confirmed West Ham's safety on the last day of the season.


Sheffield United fought against the judgment and went before an arbitration panel which ruled in July last year. The panel's chairman, Sir Philip Otton, said he could not overturn the decision not to dock West Ham points but that he would have done so had he been on the original panel. "We have much sympathy for [Sheffield United's] grievances arising from the decision and the manner it was arrived at," he said. "We would in all probability have reached a different conclusion and deducted points from West Ham."


The clubs subsequently agreed to go to the independent tribunal over compensation, which led to today's expected ruling. Because West Ham agreed to the tribunal, under the auspices of the FA, it is unclear whether they have any right to appeal.

[Rebelred]

this is fucking excellent for Sheffield United!

[legend76]

this is fucking excellent for West Ham!

fixed

[CH1]

this is fucking excellent for Sheffield United!

Why?


Surely this opens up a very large can of worms.
example:
Come the end of season all that divides the bottom four teams is goal difference, we had an example very recently where a goal was given when it clearly wasn't, do all relegated teams now go to a court of arbitration against other teams, the linesman, the ref

[xvis]

It's not looking good.

[liam2me]

Why?


Surely this opens up a very large can of worms.
example:
Come the end of season all that divides the bottom four teams is goal difference, we had an example very recently where a goal was given when it clearly wasn't, do all relegated teams now go to a court of arbitration against other teams, the linesman, the ref
2 names for sheff utd;

Steve Kabba and Lilian Nalis

[Philby]

2 names for sheff utd;

Steve Kabba and Lilian Nalis

Interesting point but for the Hammers to use this as a means of employing an attack as the best form of defence the burden of proof would be on them. They clearly broke the laws over the Tevez deal but it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to prove that the Blades were up to no good with regard to those players. Sure United are widely suspected of doing a similar deal with Timmy Tourettes 2 seasons ago but if it's in the interests of both clubs to keep their gobs shut then there's not much the FA can do..

[PatMan]

I see that now individual Sheff Utd players are to sue West Ham now cos they lost out financially...

Also, although West Ham want to appeal the £30million decision to the Court of Arbitration (I think thats what they called), this can only happen with Sheff Urd agreeing to it!

[CH1]

I see that now individual Sheff Utd players are to sue West Ham now cos they lost out financially...

Also, although West Ham want to appeal the £30million decision to the Court of Arbitration (I think thats what they called), this can only happen with Sheff Urd agreeing to it!

Yea there's a bit on it here
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/09/26/Premier-League-CAS-on-Tevez-appeal/

A bit of a stupid rule really, I mean why would Shef Utd appeal:crazyeye:

[CH1]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/09/26/why-the-sheffield-united-players-considering-legal-action-against-west-ham-are-a-disgrace-to-football-115875-20753834/

Why the Sheffield United players considering legal action against West Ham are a disgrace to football
By Dan Silver, Mirror.co.uk 26/09/2008

The Sheffield United players that are preparing to sue West Ham as a result of the Carlos Tevez row need to have a long, hard look at themselves this morning.

Reports suggest that up to 10 players – including captain Chris Morgan – from the side relegated by Carlos Tevez’ West Ham (as that team must now be known) have sought legal advice from Manchester-based IPS Law.

Incredibly, they are looking for the Hammers to pay bonuses they would have accrued for keeping Sheffield United up, as well as pay cuts enforced by post-relegation belt tightening.

Because, of course, the presence of Carlos Tevez at West Ham was the only reason that these poor, put upon players suffered the indignity of relegation that season

All this has been made possible by the ruling made by an independent tribunal earlier this week that somehow stated as fact that Carlos Tevez was worth at least three points to West Ham’s 2006/07 great escape – by coincidence, the points difference that would have seen the Londoners relegated and Sheffield United saved.

Many predicted that the judgement would open the floodgates for all manner of football issues to be settled in a law court rather than on the pitch.

Few expected the madness to start so quickly, however.

And you can guarantee that this will just be the start.

Who’s next in line to get their grubby snouts into West Ham’s trough?

Surely Bramall Lane’s pie vendors are waiting in the wings with a loss of earnings suits.

And maybe some of Sheffield United's season ticket holders would like to be compensated for being denied the opportunity to watch Cristiano Ronaldo tear their team apart last season.

I’d better stop there, actually – the lawyers are working triple shifts in Sheffield as it is.

Instead, here’s a thought for those Sheffield United players considering legal action: if you were so concerned about protecting your Premier League bonuses and salaries, why didn’t you pull your finger out during your relegation run-in?

Why didn’t you put in the effort to get the result you needed in the final game of the season against Wigan?

A game played at your own ground and in which the opposition played for the last quarter with 10 men.

And Emile Heskey in defence.

Or any of the other games over the course of the season in which you proved that, as a team, you were not good enough to retain your Premier League status.

Still, at least we can now clear one thing up: Sheffield United’s crusade through the courts has nothing to do with justice, morality or fair play - and everything to do with money.


Loved that bit

[ho chi feen]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/09/26/why-the-sheffield-united-players-considering-legal-action-against-west-ham-are-a-disgrace-to-football-115875-20753834/

Why the Sheffield United players considering legal action against West Ham are a disgrace to football
By Dan Silver, Mirror.co.uk 26/09/2008

The Sheffield United players that are preparing to sue West Ham as a result of the Carlos Tevez row need to have a long, hard look at themselves this morning.

Reports suggest that up to 10 players – including captain Chris Morgan – from the side relegated by Carlos Tevez’ West Ham (as that team must now be known) have sought legal advice from Manchester-based IPS Law.

Incredibly, they are looking for the Hammers to pay bonuses they would have accrued for keeping Sheffield United up, as well as pay cuts enforced by post-relegation belt tightening.

Because, of course, the presence of Carlos Tevez at West Ham was the only reason that these poor, put upon players suffered the indignity of relegation that season

All this has been made possible by the ruling made by an independent tribunal earlier this week that somehow stated as fact that Carlos Tevez was worth at least three points to West Ham’s 2006/07 great escape – by coincidence, the points difference that would have seen the Londoners relegated and Sheffield United saved.

Many predicted that the judgement would open the floodgates for all manner of football issues to be settled in a law court rather than on the pitch.

Few expected the madness to start so quickly, however.

And you can guarantee that this will just be the start.

Who’s next in line to get their grubby snouts into West Ham’s trough?

Surely Bramall Lane’s pie vendors are waiting in the wings with a loss of earnings suits.

And maybe some of Sheffield United's season ticket holders would like to be compensated for being denied the opportunity to watch Cristiano Ronaldo tear their team apart last season.

I’d better stop there, actually – the lawyers are working triple shifts in Sheffield as it is.

Instead, here’s a thought for those Sheffield United players considering legal action: if you were so concerned about protecting your Premier League bonuses and salaries, why didn’t you pull your finger out during your relegation run-in?

Why didn’t you put in the effort to get the result you needed in the final game of the season against Wigan?

A game played at your own ground and in which the opposition played for the last quarter with 10 men.

And Emile Heskey in defence.

Or any of the other games over the course of the season in which you proved that, as a team, you were not good enough to retain your Premier League status.

Still, at least we can now clear one thing up: Sheffield United’s crusade through the courts has nothing to do with justice, morality or fair play - and everything to do with money.


Loved that bit

Shocking article.

[CH1]

Investment company Samson Holdings chaired by Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson(West Hams owner) and his son has been declared bankrupt.
I'm sure this is also the company that holds the rights to West Ham

[liam2me]

well feck me sideways zola is starting to get the results in, and bellamy is looking good. a draw with liverpool and chelsea away, hammered pompey and won today, even sneaked into the top 10, can't last though, that would be too simple for west ham

[MonTheHoops]

well feck me sideways zola is starting to get the results in, and bellamy is looking good. a draw with liverpool and chelsea away, hammered pompey and won today, even sneaked into the top 10, can't last though, that would be too simple for west ham

Faubert & Bellamy should be off in the next few weeks though I'd say.

[liam2me]

faubert at least, he hasn't performed up to his marseille standards at all, very disappointing. think they will keep bellamy, otherwise zola will kick up a fuss, and rightly so. many people doubted he'd be able to produce the goods at WHU but he's done well when fit and there's been no golf club incidents with bowyer or dyer, not like the stoke lads today on the pitch

[MonTheHoops]

faubert at least, he hasn't performed up to his marseille standards at all, very disappointing. think they will keep bellamy, otherwise zola will kick up a fuss, and rightly so. many people doubted he'd be able to produce the goods at WHU but he's done well when fit and there's been no golf club incidents with bowyer or dyer, not like the stoke lads today on the pitch


I don't think Faubert would be a loss, unfortunatley the injury hampered him. He was excellent in France.

Bellamy's gone I think. Redknapp's already said he'll improve the offer for him and West Ham don't seem to be in a position to turn down any decent offers.

[ho chi feen]

faubert at least, he hasn't performed up to his Bordeaux standards at all, very disappointing.

.

[MonTheHoops]

Heh he he, scanned that too fast.

[liam2me]

.
meh, my bad, but the point stands, not regained his form from before his injury

[ho chi feen]

meh, my bad, but the point stands, not regained his form from before his injury

He was in the process of signing Faubert when I caddied for his gang last year (Curbs... the most boring man on earth).

[liam2me]

He was in the process of signing Faubert when I caddied for his gang last year (Curbs... the most boring man on earth).
my opinion on the waste of space is well documented, i would prefer to forget he existed now, ta very much ;)

[kevinbitzz]

i preferred the old thread title

[AmadeusDC]

i preferred the old thread title

:)

[liam2me]

i preferred the old thread title
well i would have like to keep it, but joorabchian didn't buy the club, so that was that

[Dr_Rock]

I can't see Bellamy going, unless it's silly money being offered.

Staying in the Premiership is worth 50 million alone and Bellamy will be needed if that's going to happen.

There'll be a major clearout of squad players which will be geared more towards trimming the wage bill more than anything else. If Zola wants to keep a player then he'll be staying. Curbs quit because players were being sold from under him and if that happens again then West Ham are in trouble of being a no-go zone for any self respecting manager.

As it is Davenport is playing. I mean c'mon! He's a waste of space. I want McCartney back. Or even Jon Harley or Konchesky ffs. Anyone's better than Davenport.

Great win over Stoke at the weekend and hopefully more great things to come.

[ho chi feen]

Wet Sham to be more despicable than ManYoooo and Chelski?





Are West Ham's directors simply blowing bubbles over the Tevez affair?

West Ham are sticking to their guns as financial concerns loom and another investigation is launched into Carlos Tevez affair

Comments (1) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jan/13/west-ham-united-carlos-tevez-sheffield-united?commentpage=1 )


The Guardian, (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian) Wednesday 14 January 2009
Article history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jan/13/west-ham-united-carlos-tevez-sheffield-united#history-byline)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/columnists/2008/12/20/1229779323627/Bjorgolfur-Gudmundsson-of-001.jpg Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson, owner of West Ham Photograph: Ian Kington/AFP/Getty Images



Was there ever a Premier League (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/premierleague) club with so far-fetched a litany of woes as West Ham United (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/westhamunited)? The old East End family club must concentrate on improving performances on the pitch — if only to take their minds off the Icelandic banking meltdown, which has hammered the owner's fortune and led to West Ham being for sale in an uninviting market, the compensation claim in the Tevez saga, which Sheffield United are understood still to put at £50m, and another Premier League and Football Association inquiry focusing on West Ham's conduct when they fielded the over-performing Argentinian in the final three games of 2006-07.


To these agonies can be added the looming threat, if West Ham are found to have breached the rules when they retained Tevez, that points could be deducted. Although the end of the inquiry is months away, an FA spokesman confirmed that a points deduction was one of the available sanctions . West Ham, on top of everything else, can barely contemplate relegation.


The club would argue that, even if they are found culpable — a possibility they reject — points deduction would amount to double punishment because Lord Griffiths has already ruled against them over their retention of Tevez. In his arbitration ruling Griffiths said West Ham breached the undertaking they gave to the Premier League in April 2007 that they would cancel their contract with Tevez's "owners". Instead Griffiths agreed that the club's chief executive, Scott Duxbury, had a series of "oral cuddles" in which he reassured the owners, two offshore companies represented by Kia Joorabchian, that they would, despite what Duxbury had promised the Premier League, still retain the rights to the player.


West Ham are already being sanctioned for that, forced to compensate Sheffield United for the cost of relegation. The Bramall Lane club are understood to have finalised a financial inventory detailing their losses, to which West Ham have until the end of the month to respond. They argue the just figure is nothing like £50m, because the increased income from Premier League status is mostly swallowed up by higher player wages. Griffiths will decide in March, barring delays.


Of the new inquiry West Ham say they have "nothing to hide" and that they "acted in good faith" — attitudes which would have served them well from the off. Had they come clean to the Premier League about the "third party ownership" when they signed Tevez and Javier Mascherano in August 2006, none of this scandal would have unfolded. Yet the club's conduct seems to have been skewed, throughout, by trying to be a little too cute.


West Ham's then chief executive, Paul Aldridge, told Richard Scudamore, the Premier League's chief executive, there were no documents relevant to the players' registrations which he had not shown the league. The third party contracts came to light when Mascherano moved to Liverpool (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/liverpool) in January 2007, because they showed the Premier League everything. Scudamore fumed that West Ham had misled him; and disciplinary proceedings began.


The maddening aspect of this for West Ham is that, if Aldridge and Duxbury, then the club's legal director, had shown Scudamore the arrangements, they were likely to have been asked for only minor alterations. The Premier League allowed Mascherano's third party "ownership" to continue when he went to Liverpool, insisting only that the loan be for a fixed period and that the "owners" did not retain any rights during the loan. When Tevez eventually moved to Manchester United (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/manchesterunited), a fixed period was again insisted on; Tevez remains a loan player at Old Trafford and under the "ownership" of Joorabchian's investors.


Yet West Ham chose not to disclose the contracts at all. Even after being charged they argued their innocence, until shortly before the hearing, when they pleaded guilty. Aldridge was outraged that he was denounced as a liar in the judgment without an opportunity to state his case. He maintained he acted on advice that third party contracts were not relevant to Tevez's registration. West Ham, guilty, were handed their record £5.5m fine in April 2007, yet continued to attract more trouble. They were given three options: relinquish Tevez; keep him and negotiate a different arrangement with Joorabchian; or rip up the ownership contract and keep him. They chose to say they had ripped it up, although few understood how they could keep Tevez for free.


It was then, according to Graham Shear, Joorabchian's lawyer, that Duxbury gave the "oral cuddles," telling Joorabchian that the contract was not really torn up, and that the "owners" retained their rights. Tevez stayed, played magnificently, West Ham stayed up and the Blades went down roaring at the injustice.


West Ham deny the "oral cuddles" testimony, arguing they did rip up the contract. They point to the fact Joorabchian sued in summer 2007 for Tevez to be released, and ultimately paid West Ham £2m — a process intimately supervised by the Premier League. Griffiths, though, accepted Shear's view of events. The forthcoming FA and Premier League inquiry will examine exactly the same evidence.


Faced with all this, West Ham are maintaining their brave front. The owner, Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson, has been battered by Iceland's economic collapse but Asgeir Fridgeirsson, West Ham's vice-chairman, insists the club is safe. The holding company, Hansa, has been granted a moratorium on paying its creditors and must report back to an Icelandic court on 6 March to show progress in selling the club. Fridgeirsson, though, now says the club need not necessarily be sold. "If the market does not appreciate the value of the club, we will not sell," he said. Fridgeirsson emphasised that Gudmundsson was not taking money out of the club to service the needs of Hansa or any other debts, and that the manager, Gianfranco Zola, and Duxbury do not need to have a fire sale. West Ham have refused to sell Scott Parker or Craig Bellamy for below a handsome price.


"The club has to balance its books, which is normal practice in any business," said Fridgeirsson. "However, the idea is not to sell players and go into a downward spiral ." He acknowledged the final pay-out to Sheffield United was "a question mark over the club's valuation" but said West Ham would not be forced into insolvency. Fridgeirsson said there were still parties interested in buying the club.


West Ham fans can only hope that this defiant talk, of stability in a sea of troubles, is the truth, not just wishful thinking by beleaguered directors blowing pretty bubbles in the air.

[CH1]

Since the anouncement into yet another investigation is launched into Carlos Tevez affair Sheff Utd have gone unusually very quiet over the matter, maybe thet are worried about the outcome:

Taken from another website, An unsubstantiated source, but makes sense.


"Impartial Observer // Jan 14, 2009 at 10:53 am

The offence that West Ham committed was to let MSI include a clause in the Tevez contract which allowed MSI to transfer the player at ant time they wanted. This is third party influence and illegal.

West Ham were fined £5.5m - there had never been a precedence of such a charge so a point deduction would have been totally inappropriate.

The fuss didn’t make sense as the clause was meaningless. Why? because you cannot sell or sign a player outside of the transfer window. MSI couldn’t have moved Tevez if they had wanted to.

West Ham were instructed to remove this third party influence - which they did. However, Mr Duxbury told MSI that the agreement would remain in place ie a verbal agreement. This is the point that Sheffield United were told that they had the right to copensation. This is also the point of the latest FA/PL inquiry. This is more commonly known as the Duxbury lies and the basis of the ‘cheat’ slurs.

West Ham’s new lawyers, borrowed from Manchester United, are the reason for the new inquiry after pointing out that the decision in favour of Sheffield United is flawed and therefore incorrect.

They pointed out that it makes no difference if Duxbury lied and privately verbally agreed to honour the third party agreement. What it boils down to is one mans word against another, there is no actual written proof at all.

Remember the Premier League have already said, (in the case of Tim Howards non-appearance for Everton against Manchester United), that no charges could be made where agreements are made verbally, with nothing in writing.

The new inquiry will agree with this and the previous ruling that Sheffield United should receive compensation will be reversed.

West Ham United and Sheffield United have been advised, hence the deafening silence form both camps.

The lack of compensation is also the reason for the sale of Kevin Beattie."

[liam2me]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/columnists/2008/12/20/1229779323627/Bjorgolfur-Gudmundsson-of-001.jpg

ha, that lad on the left is my boss

[liam2me]

Since the anouncement into yet another investigation is launched into Carlos Tevez affair Sheff Utd have gone unusually very quiet over the matter, maybe thet are worried about the outcome:

Taken from another website, An unsubstantiated source, but makes sense.


"Impartial Observer // Jan 14, 2009 at 10:53 am

The offence that West Ham committed was to let MSI include a clause in the Tevez contract which allowed MSI to transfer the player at ant time they wanted. This is third party influence and illegal.

West Ham were fined £5.5m - there had never been a precedence of such a charge so a point deduction would have been totally inappropriate.

The fuss didn’t make sense as the clause was meaningless. Why? because you cannot sell or sign a player outside of the transfer window. MSI couldn’t have moved Tevez if they had wanted to.

West Ham were instructed to remove this third party influence - which they did. However, Mr Duxbury told MSI that the agreement would remain in place ie a verbal agreement. This is the point that Sheffield United were told that they had the right to copensation. This is also the point of the latest FA/PL inquiry. This is more commonly known as the Duxbury lies and the basis of the ‘cheat’ slurs.

West Ham’s new lawyers, borrowed from Manchester United, are the reason for the new inquiry after pointing out that the decision in favour of Sheffield United is flawed and therefore incorrect.

They pointed out that it makes no difference if Duxbury lied and privately verbally agreed to honour the third party agreement. What it boils down to is one mans word against another, there is no actual written proof at all.

Remember the Premier League have already said, (in the case of Tim Howards non-appearance for Everton against Manchester United), that no charges could be made where agreements are made verbally, with nothing in writing.

The new inquiry will agree with this and the previous ruling that Sheffield United should receive compensation will be reversed.

West Ham United and Sheffield United have been advised, hence the deafening silence form both camps.

The lack of compensation is also the reason for the sale of Kevin Beattie."

i've been staying schtum on this as i'm sick of it all, to be honest, but this indeed is an interesting perspective, no wonder mccabe hasn't been shooting his mouth off

[CH1]

Today's news of the world..http://www.newsoftheworld.c o.uk/sport/134193/WEST-HAMS-TEVEZ-EVIDENCE-We-reveal-documents-Hammers-will-use-in-their-defence.html

THE News of the World today publishes the documents West Ham insist will prevent them being hit with a points deduction and another massive fine in the long-running Carlos Tevez scandal.

The Hammers face a fresh investigation into allegations they broke strict rules on ‘third party’ agreements after the Premier League and the FA launched a new joint inquiry into the Argentine’s registration earlier this month.

Click here to see the documents in full

So today, we publish the full, incredible story of how former Hammers boss Alan Curbishley personally handed Tevez a terse legal letter West Ham claim terminated his controversial third party agreement with the club.

And how a tense 24 hours of sensitive phone calls, letters, faxes and emails resulted in the Premier League clearing Tevez to play in the Hammers’ final three games of the season which secured their top flight survival.
Misled

The Londoners are stunned at the new inquiry after they were fined a record £5.5million in April 2007 for playing Tevez when he was not owned by the club.

However, the new probe has been prompted by the findings of FA arbitration panel chairman Lord Griffiths following Sheffield United’s £30million compensation claim after they were relegated while West Ham stayed up.

Click here for full live commentary from West Ham v Fulham*

Griffiths ruled Hammers chief executive Scott Duxbury had misled the League over the termination of the club’s third party agreement with Iranian businessman Kia Joorabchian, who owns Tevez’s economic rights.



Joorabchian’s lawyer Graham Shear gave evidence that Duxbury verbally assured him their third party agreement was still in place — despite Duxbury informing the Premier League West Ham had terminated it.

But West Ham are adamant these documents will prove the agreement had ended BEFORE Tevez was cleared to play in the final game of the season when he scored the winner against Manchester United which kept the Hammers up and sent Sheffield United down.

Duxbury last night declared: “We welcome the new investigation because it is our chance to make it perfectly clear to both the FA and Premier League that we did everything in our power to terminate the agreement we had with Carlos Tevez and satisfy all the demands of the Premier League in order for him to continue as a West Ham player.

“Tevez’s advisors claim the third party agreement still existed despite the termination, but we dispute that that is the legal position.

“I saw it as my job to make sure Tevez played and helped the club in the fight against relegation, even though it was clear he was very unhappy with the agreement being terminated. I made it clear to Tevez’s advisors that if Carlos stayed and helped us to the end of the season then, yes, I would not stand in his way if he wanted to leave for another club.



“We contend that is not a third party agreement, that is simply part of running a football club and doing everything in the best interests of West Ham. Unfortunately, Lord Griffiths appears to believe that some official agreement still remained in place.

“That’s why we welcome the new inquiry so we can explain our position absolutely.”

Duxbury, former West Ham chairman Eggert Magnusson, Joorabchian, Shear and Blades chairman Kevin McCabe will all be asked to submit evidence to the new inquiry.

The key date in the Hammers’ defence is April 27, 2007. That is when West Ham claimed they provided documentary evidence to the Premier League confirming the termination of the agreement — including a signed letter from Curbishley confirming he had personally handed a termination document to Tevez.

It was addressed to Carlos Alberto Tevez (the ‘player’), Argentinian citizen, single, professional football player — and included his identity card number and his national tax ID number.

It was dated April 27 and signed by Magnusson, who had written the termination letter that morning.
Fashion

The Icelandic businessman was responding to a no-nonsense ultimatum from the Premier League who had fined West Ham £5.5m for non-disclosure of documentation and ordered them to scrap the third party agreement.

The League had examined the deal — which gave West Ham use of a player who was actually owned and controlled not by them but by Joorabchian’s two companies based in the British Virgin Islands.

Premier League general secretary Mike Foster informed West Ham they had until 12 noon on April 28 — the day of their vital League clash at Wigan — to “modify the third party agreement in a fashion satisfactory to the (Premier League) board or terminate the third-party agreement outright” or Tevez would not be allowed to play again.

It was a bombshell that began one of the most dramatic days in the club’s history.

[Dr_Rock]

Ah yes... Another Hammers home day win is on the cards tonight.

Hammers old boy Jimmy Bullard will be returning to his old stomping ground but I think due to illness he'll be warming the bench.

West Ham are on form, and can anyone see past a 2/3 goal win here?

I calle 3-0, 3-1, 4-1 as likely last week over on the metalireland forum...

I call 2-0 tonight. Cole x 2

[Dr_Rock]

2-0 it was... Had Cole fgs, but who cares...WH won and I is rich.

[Otto_the_bus_driver]

Is the lad Di Michele any good or is he just hitting a good run of form.

He put it about last night and against Fulham.

[Dr_Rock]

He netted twice earlier in the season too. The guy works very very well with Cole from what I've seen. Could actually propel them well up the table.

[liam2me]

well feck me sideways we're coming into a bit of form, well surprised, Zola's doing the business (that doesn't surprise me though)

[ho chi feen]

£9m is a ridiculous amount of money to be paying for a player from Serie B.

[liam2me]

£9m is a ridiculous amount of money to be paying for a player from Serie B.
player of the comp at last years UEFA u-21, apparently, scored the winner for germany in the final. paying for potential i guess

[ho chi feen]

player of the comp at last years UEFA u-21, apparently, scored the winner for germany in the final. paying for potential i guess

Okay, the German correspondent on Football Weekly had a good belly laugh at this one. Said he'd be stunned if the deal was for anything above half the price we've been hearing mooted.

[Lewis Hamiltons Hat]

£9m is a ridiculous amount of money to be paying for a player from Serie B.

i dont know ho-chi. i seen him play twice and he looks a very handy player.
maybe they shouldnt have paid a big fee up front. done it in stage payments. but i wouldnt have minded arsenal splashing 5m on him with a view to it rising to 9m depending on appearances.
theres shades of monaco thierry henry about him.

i reckon theyll play him left wing until he gets settled.

[ho chi feen]

i dont know ho-chi. i seen him play twice and he looks a very handy player.
maybe they shouldnt have paid a big fee up front. done it in stage payments. but i wouldnt have minded arsenal splashing 5m on him with a view to it rising to 9m depending on appearances.
theres shades of monaco thierry henry about him.

i reckon theyll play him left wing until he gets settled.

Nobody else would have paid that much. But hey, it's looking like the fee's been overstated, so it's not so bad.

[Lewis Hamiltons Hat]

Nobody else would have paid that much. But hey, it's looking like the fee's been overstated, so it's not so bad.

i dunno lad. juve and roma were really sniffing around. I reckon nani & zola used all contacts to rush the deal through. I do reckon westham could have bagged a bargain. I mean 9m is fuck all in the current markets still like.

[ho chi feen]

i dunno lad. juve and roma were really sniffing around. I reckon nani & zola used all contacts to rush the deal through. I do reckon westham could have bagged a bargain. I mean 9m is fuck all in the current markets still like.

£9 would be big, big money in the Serie A market as it stands. For Serie B, it's astronomical. Would be the equivalent of someone bidding £25m on a Championship player. There are first team players in that league on wages of €800 p/m, like.

Also, as good as he might potentially be, his potential will be fuck all good if West Ham go down, or go bust...

[Lewis Hamiltons Hat]

Also, as good as he might potentially be, his potential will be fuck all good if West Ham go down, or go bust...

go bust fine, go down doubt it.
unless it involved some kinda bizare we cant pay you sheff utd so take our league place. (that could actually happen)

[CH1]

Anyone else see this earlier in the week

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1127410/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Sheffield-Uniteds-cosy-deal-cut-Spring-wrong.html

[liam2me]

Okay, the German correspondent on Football Weekly had a good belly laugh at this one. Said he'd be stunned if the deal was for anything above half the price we've been hearing mooted.

fair enough, wouldn't be surprised if west ham 'leaked' a higher price to put off speculation about the owners finances

[dancefreak2003]

Breaking News Julien Faubert to Real Madrid

http://translate.google.co. uk/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.as.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DAS%26hl %3Den%26safe%3Doff%2 6client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozill a:en-GB:official%26hs%3DM aK

[liam2me]

Breaking News Julien Faubert to Real Madrid

http://translate.google.co. uk/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.as.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DAS%26hl %3Den%26safe%3Doff%2 6client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozill a:en-GB:official%26hs%3DM aK
now that is a surprise, not that he's leaving west ham, that madrid actually want him!!!

[Dr_Rock]

Ah give the guy a break. He was a class player when he arrived but hasn't gotten his form back after a year out injured.

Anyway, 15/2 to beat Le Arse today... Took a nibble at those prices anyway.

[CH1]

http://www.whufc.com/page/News/0,,12562~1536772,00. html

Scott Parker has been named the FA cup player of the round.

[CH1]

now that is a surprise, not that he's leaving west ham, that madrid actually want him!!!


Predrag Mijatovic Seething At Real Madrid's Faubert Purchase

http://www.goal.com/en/news/722/la-liga/2009/02/02/1090716/predrag-mijatovic-seething-at-real-madrids-faubert-purchase

[CH1]

Are Dubai International The New West Ham Owners?

http://westham.wordpress.co m/

[STEVIEG]

Abramovich should have went in for a proper team and club like West Ham rather than the two season wonders over in Stamford Bridge

[CH1]

Striker Dixon earns West Ham deal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7883543.stm

[liam2me]

Striker Dixon earns West Ham deal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7883543.stm
if he has signed for west ham he must be good, Nani has an eye for young talent, half the italian WC team were spotted by him

[ebenezer]

I see West Ham have signed, the new, and not improved, Ali Dia.

This Savio bloke is going to be a disaster.

I've heard rumours of 10 million spent. :oops:

[CH1]

I see West Ham have signed, the new, and not improved, Ali Dia.

This Savio bloke is going to be a disaster.

I've heard rumours of 10 million spent. :oops:

There is a lot of rumours on Savio's price alright, I thought I read somewhere it was initially 4 mil with more to follow leading to a total of 9 mil, but I have to agree I think it's going to be a disaster, hope I'm wrong though.


On a brighter note Scott Paker has signed to keep him till 2012/13 season.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_492073 5,00.html

[CH1]

Our FA Cup replay against Middlesborough is on ITV tonight

[ebenezer]

I see West Ham have signed, the new, and not improved, Ali Dia.

This Savio bloke is going to be a disaster.

I've heard rumours of 10 million spent. :oops:

Don't know what this thread is about, and I'm certainly not reading all of it.

However, I would like to talk about Giggs' goal at West Ham.

Yeah, decent finish.

But FFS, who were those players who bought the dummy :?:, TWICE.

Hilarious defending. Those two Hammers sold themselves like schoolboys.

Personally, I'd fine the overpaid wankers a week's wages.

When I had stopped laughing at those suckers, I noticed inside 15 minutes, how absolutely SHIT, this Savio Nsereko will be.

He looked like he'd never seen a football. He kept following the ball, whether it was in a left/right back position, any flank. He was running around like a mental patient.

What a shocking, shocking excuse of a footballer he is. I knew that in the first 15 minutes I've seen him play.

Trust me. Pete Taylor.

Any news on Savio today :?:

[liam2me]

Savio - on for Behrami - went on a powerful run down the left, cut inside and shot from 20 yards.

Given made a fine save with his left hand but parried it out to Collison, who showed fabulous composure on the volley to lift the ball over the keeper and into the net.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7905878.stm

[ebenezer]

Thanks Liam.

I'm assuming the change was enforced seeing as Savio Dia came on in the 43rd minute.

Will Savio be claiming the much coveted assist :?:

Money will spent. :D

We have a player like Savio, Garath McCleary - 20 grand from Bromley.

[CH1]

West Ham owner seeks debt repayment extension
http://www.eufootball.biz/finance/6821-west_ham_owner_debt_ repayment_extension. html

Hansa, West Ham United Football Club's holding company run by owner Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson, has been attempting to negotiate with creditors so that club's assets are not frozen. Bloomberg reports that the club would be forced sell the club if the matter is not settled.

Judges in Reykjavik, Iceland with hold a hearing on Friday, 6 March, to reconsider a three-month extension related to their ruling in December. West Ham United managed to move from 13th place to seventh place in the Premier League within the last few months.

Asgeir Fridgeirsson, West Ham's Vice Chairman, explained that the club's recent progress reinforces the notion that the financial stability of the club is crucial at this point.

Gudmundsson is considering the sale of the club, and revealed the club's financial data to several interested parties in December. No firm offers have been made thus far, however Gudmundsson insists that the club is still up for sale.

Fridgeirsson says that the decision will not affect the club, and that "there are alternatives and options."

[ebenezer]

How did Dia perform during the week :?:

I assume he started after his ASSIST last Sunday.

[hiawatha]

How did Dia perform during the week :?:

I assume he started after his ASSIST last Sunday.

Did Savio personally offend you or something?

[CH1]

West Ham will pay Sheffield United nothing over Carlos Tevez affair

Sheffield United face a stormy tribunal next week with West Ham after learning the Hammers propose paying them no compensation over the Carlos Tevez affair.

A tribunal will reconvene on Monday to consider the size of damages to the Blades, who were relegated from the Premier League in 2007.

They want £46million, but West Ham's legal team aim to prove the cost of salaries in the top flight mean the Blades would not have been better off if they had stayed up.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/03/12/west-ham-will-pay-sheffield-united-nothing-over-carlos-tevez-affair-115875-21191627/

[ebenezer]

I see West Ham have signed, the new, and not improved, Ali Dia.

This Savio bloke is going to be a disaster.

I've heard rumours of 10 million spent. :oops:

Don't know what this thread is about, and I'm certainly not reading all of it.

However, I would like to talk about Giggs' goal at West Ham.

Yeah, decent finish.

But FFS, who were those players who bought the dummy :?:, TWICE.

Hilarious defending. Those two Hammers sold themselves like schoolboys.

Personally, I'd fine the overpaid wankers a week's wages.

When I had stopped laughing at those suckers, I noticed inside 15 minutes, how absolutely SHIT, this Savio Nsereko will be.

He looked like he'd never seen a football. He kept following the ball, whether it was in a left/right back position, any flank. He was running around like a mental patient.

What a shocking, shocking excuse of a footballer he is. I knew that in the first 15 minutes I've seen him play.

Trust me. Pete Taylor.

Thanks Liam.

I'm assuming the change was enforced seeing as Savio Dia came on in the 43rd minute.

Will Savio be claiming the much coveted assist :?:

Money will spent.

We have a player like Savio, Garath McCleary - 20 grand from Bromley.

How did Dia perform during the week :?:

I assume he started after his ASSIST last Sunday.

Ali 'Savio' Dia hauled off the pitch in a 0-0 draw against bottom of the table West Brom.

[CH1]

We were truely shocking in the game against West Brom, we desperately need a natural striker

[storysham]

West Ham have confirmed to Sky Sports News that manager Gianfranco Zola has agreed terms on a new contract.
Chief executive Scott Duxbury revealed four-year deals have been agreed with Zola and his assistant Steve Clarke.
Duxbury stated the contracts should be signed within the next 48 hours.
The news will be a huge boost and relief to the Hammers and their fans, with some reports claiming the talks had stalled in recent days.
Zola and Clarke have turned West Ham's season around after taking over from Alan Curbishley in September.
The Hammers are currently seventh in the Premier League - a position which would secure them a place in Europe.

[liam2me]

West Ham have confirmed to Sky Sports News that manager Gianfranco Zola has agreed terms on a new contract.
Chief executive Scott Duxbury revealed four-year deals have been agreed with Zola and his assistant Steve Clarke.
Duxbury stated the contracts should be signed within the next 48 hours.
The news will be a huge boost and relief to the Hammers and their fans, with some reports claiming the talks had stalled in recent days.
Zola and Clarke have turned West Ham's season around after taking over from Alan Curbishley in September.
The Hammers are currently seventh in the Premier League - a position which would secure them a place in Europe.
great news

[liam2me]

"I can take it, Lamps can take it. It's a little bit more than that but I'm not going to give them a chance to say I'm whingeing,"

yet there he is, whinging like a child. wakey wakey terry you silly boy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8019767.stm

[liam2me]

sold, well, kinda

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/8088876.stm

[liam2me]

looks like we're about to land mancini (http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=124273)

but the clubs accounts are a disaster (http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=124274)

[ho chi feen]

"Inter star Mancini".

Talk about over-exaggeration. More like Inter Flop.

Class player though, will be interesting to see if he can cope with the physical demands of the PL.

[liam2me]

"Inter star Mancini".

Talk about over-exaggeration. More like Inter Flop.

Class player though, will be interesting to see if he can cope with the physical demands of the PL.
they always have to big it up on the fans sites. it's not a done deal yet but he's a step up in quality

[ho chi feen]

they always have to big it up on the fans sites. it's not a done deal yet but he's a step up in quality

That's a pair of quality Mourinho cast-offs you're picking up, and unlike the other guy, JM rated this guy enough to spend a fair whack of cash on to begin with.

[liam2me]

That's a pair of quality Mourinho cast-offs you're picking up, and unlike the other guy, JM rated this guy enough to spend a fair whack of cash on to begin with.
yup, would never have had a chance with curbs in charge. hopefully we can push for a top 6 position this year

[CH1]

West Ham United are pleased to announce the signing of Switzerland Under-19 defender Fabio Daprela from Grasshopper Club Zurich for an undisclosed fee.

http://www.whufc.com/page/News/0,,12562~1738885,00. html

[Philby]

But hardly ecstatic I'd have thought..

[hiawatha]

Savio apparently being sold to Fiorentina (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5528337 ,00.html)already.

Ebeneezer will be delighted.

[afeencalleddan]

All's well at Upton Park then.

[marco 2005]

indeed....seems like they'll be joining Hull and Wolves down into the championship next season

[Jinky]

Global domination in T minus 10.....9......

[hiawatha]

The Sullivan/Gold/Brady takeover is gone through (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/West-Ham-Takeover-Deal-By-David-Sullivan-And-David-Gold-May-Be-Announced-Says-Mark-Kleinman/Article/201001315529584?lpos =Business_Second_UK_ News_Article_Teaser_ Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15529584 _West_Ham_Takeover_D eal_By_David_Sulliva n_And_David_Gold_May _Be_Announced_Says_M ark_Kleinman) apparently.
And Sullivan says they'll be in Champions League within seven years. (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5870296 ,00.html)
That bold prediction seems eerily familiar...

[Edmund Blackwater]

I predict a new 70,000 seater stadium, world class signings, and a champions league win in the next 2 months. And page 3 slappers for all.

[hiawatha]

I predict a new 70,000 seater stadium, world class signings, and a champions league win in the next 2 months. And page 3 slappers for all.

They want to use the Olympic stadium apparently.

[Edmund Blackwater]

They want to use the Olympic stadium apparently.

Don't know if it will be sufficient to match their ambitions.

[hiawatha]

Don't know if it will be sufficient to match their ambitions.

I'm sure with a bit of a stadium sponsorship they'll be able to fund expansion beyond the planned 25,000 post-Olympics capacity. The Ann Summers Arena perhaps? The Hardcore Housewives Stadium?

[liam2me]

They want to use the Olympic stadium apparently.

the take-over is great news, finally going to get some investment in the squad.

I've mixed opinions about moving to the Olympic Stadium though cause my uni has a stake in the Olympic Legacy and were supposed to be getting use of it for teaching the sports science degrees and the facilities for the Wednesday sports. Need to find out what the uni's position is now

[PatMan]

Am I right in thinking that the Olympic stadium HAS to be an athletic arena after the games - therefore a running track will always surround the pitch?

[liam2me]

Am I right in thinking that the Olympic stadium HAS to be an athletic arena after the games - therefore a running track will always surround the pitch?
it's all politics, Ken Livingstone wanted an athlectics legacy but he's gone now. Dunno what Boris wants

[Lapsy Pa]

it's all politics, Ken Livingstone wanted an athlectics legacy but he's gone now. Dunno what Boris wants

Neither does Boris.

What a legend

[kevinbitzz]

the take-over is great news, finally going to get some investment in the squad.

I've mixed opinions about moving to the Olympic Stadium though cause my uni has a stake in the Olympic Legacy and were supposed to be getting use of it for teaching the sports science degrees and the facilities for the Wednesday sports. Need to find out what the uni's position is now

Let us know what they say,

cheers.

[STEVIEG]

I agree that they should be using the stadium for football once it's being finished with it


West Ham may benefit from a Man City/real madrid style council/government contribution


clever move by Gold and co but it could blow up in their faces

[de mange]

Let us know what they say,

cheers.

:lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

[Philby]

Kieron Dyer is on £70k a week at the Hammers. Good God.

[jimmy magee]

Who's gonna go down? surely not the Hammers??

start of season i said Burnley, Bolton, Hull

gonna change it to Burnley, Bolton and Pompey

[Otto_the_bus_driver]

Kieron Dyer's time at West Ham could cost the club a staggering £30m over the course of his four-year contract. The midfielder has started only five league matches in his two-and-a-half years at Upton Park and has yet to score.

Up the 'ammers !!

[Philby]

That's a horrible amount of money to be paying for such little return.

Makes me feel ill, can't imagine how it makes 'ammers fans feel.

[Paddy Wagon]

That's a horrible amount of money to be paying for such little return.

Makes me feel ill, can't imagine how it makes 'ammers fans feel.

If that is indeed true, you take soccerball waaaaaay to seriously!

[Langer Dan]

Christ they really did manage to outdo the last shower in charge.
What a total wanker.


West Ham United's co-owner, David Sullivan, has warned that Scott Parker is the only player the club would not consider selling during a summer shake-up at Upton Park.

Sullivan, along with his boardroom colleague David Gold, is beginning preparations for a busy off-season in the transfer market after the club effectively ensured their Premier League survival with Saturday's 3-2 win over Wigan Athletic. They have already made a written bid in the region of £4m for midfielder Graham Dorrans, which was turned down by West Brom today.

"Other than Scott Parker, there is not a player we wouldn't sell if it was the right bid," said Sullivan. "Scott will not be sold and we will be buying more than we are selling. There will be no fire-selling and we will enhance the squad, not diminish it.

"We will have to shake up the pack because there is no point kidding ourselves otherwise we will be in the same position next year – the table doesn't lie."

But, while he expressed a wish to keep the captain, Matthew Upson, Sullivan made no such guarantees over the former Birmingham City defender – or, for that matter, his international colleagues Robert Green and Carlton Cole.

"We will make [Upson] a proposal for a new three-year contract," he said. "We would give him an offer of a comparable level to what he is on now, which he may or may not want to take.

"But Upson has a year to go so if we get a good offer we will take it."

[kevinbitzz]

FYI NR637


bump....

This is the original official West Ham thread, in fact it is one of the best threads in the Sports Forum

[nr637]

How about another song for all Hammers fans today!

I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air
They fly so high, nearly reach the sky
And like my dreams they fade and die

Fortune's always hiding,
I've looked everywhere
I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air
United! (clap hands) united! (clap hands)

[nr637]

Well what is happening at Upton Park!
3-1 over the pool.
Pressure on after Wolves won 4-0.
It just keeps on getting better.
Well until the next game.
But hey let just enjoy each good result as they happen.
Stoke next at home again, so lets go for 2 in a row!



Come on u Haaams!

[skybluebarry]

A must win game which they did.

[liam2me]

I probably should have posted this sooner, but, who's going to join me in the relegation party?

[Loftydog]

So they will be bigger than United and Chelsea when exactly?

[nr637]

Top of the table clash tonite in the Championship!

Very important game.

Does anyone know where I could watch this online.......if you know what I mean...........



Come on u haaaaams

[nr637]

2nd (Reading) against third (West Ham) in the Championship today at Upton Park at 3.00pm.

What are your forecasts?

Hammers to win 2-1!

http://www.kumb.com/

[superscott]

big game for the hammers,win today and we will push on.Nolan to take that prick kebbe out with a nice juicey tackle.....

[delzer]

Fancy a draw in this.

[Pontipine]

I fancy Reading today.

This is the typical type of game Reading can win because the Hammers will push for goals and Reading could catch them.Other teams might be a bit more cagey when playing Reading at home but West Ham won't.

21/10 sounds a decent price for an away win.

[delzer]

I fancy Reading today.

This is the typical type of game Reading can win because the Hammers will push for goals and Reading could catch them.Other teams might be a bit more cagey when playing Reading at home but West Ham won't.

21/10 sounds a decent price for an away win.

Looks like you called it well PontY

[Billy D]

Great shout Ponti.

Take that David Sullivan, David Gold, Karren Brady, and Big Sam.

I'd rather see Southampton and Reading go up instead of West Ham.

[Jinky]

Anyone see Brady on SSN yesterday? She is some sickener.

[Billy D]

Indeed. They'd make ya sick.

[nr637]

Barnsley 0 West Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aam 4

Watch out Reading & Southampton we are on your back, so any slip up and we will be in.................. .

U both have to play each other?

[Motorway To Roswell]

Barnsley 0 West Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aam 4

Watch out Reading & Southampton we are on your back, so any slip up and we will be in.................. .

U both have to play each other?

Sorry but west ham won't be promoted, they fucked it and blackpool will beat them in the playoffs

[Billy D]

:lol!:

Any sign of Liam this season?

A Premier League bandwagonner.

[CORKBHOY]

:lol!:

Any sign of Liam this season?

A Premier League bandwagonner.

The wendyball West Hammers choking big time in the Championship.

No wonder Liam is awol.

[Mick Lyons]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5309992.stm

if he wants to win the cl then we won't be a feeder club, its a great time to be a hammer

(at least i can say i was here when we were in the championship, unlike certain chelski fans)

lol
Poor Liam.

[STEVIEG]

Wendeyball is so 2006:)

[Billy D]

West Ham destroy Cardiff 5-0 on aggregate and nothing in here. Nothing.

Where are all the Hammers?

Let's be havin' you. http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/forums/images/icons/icon4.gif

[nr637]

I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air,
They fly so high, nearly reach the sky,
Then like my dreams they fade and die.
Fortune's always hiding,
I've looked everywhere,
I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air.

I'm dreaming dreams, I'm scheming schemes,
I'm building castles high.
They're born anew, their days are few,
Just like a sweet butterfly.
And as the daylight is dawning,
They come again in the morning!

I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air,
They fly so high, nearly reach the sky,
Then like my dreams they fade and die.
Fortune's always hiding,
I've looked everywhere,
I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air.

When shadows creep, when I'm asleep,
To lands of hope I stray!
Then at daybreak, when I awake,
My bluebird flutters away.
Happiness, you seem so near me,
Happiness, come forth and cheer me!

I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air,
They fly so high, nearly reach the sky,
Then like my dreams they fade and die.
Fortune's always hiding,
I've looked everywhere,
I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air.

[POL]

2me the fucking bandwagonner

[Motorway To Roswell]

Come on Blackpool

[skybluebarry]

Come on you irons

[superscott]

east,east,east london,oh east London is won-der-ful its full of tits,fanny and west ham Oh east London is Wonderful.coyi

[POL]

does 2me not support them anymore?

[liam2me]

does 2me not support them anymore?
I do, but I've grown disillusioned with football in general

[superscott]

I do, but I've grown disillusioned with football in general

get yourself over to wembley boy and you will get your love back,be with the brotherhood

[STEVIEG]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5309992.stm

if he wants to win the CL then we won't be a feeder club, its a great time to be a hammer

(at least i can say i was here when we were in the championship, unlike certain chelski fans)

Guess who fucked off to Munstershire when it all went tits up??? ^^^^^

[Jinky]

He'll be back. West Ham could be back in the big time and the Munster project is over.

[G'luck]

Hope they come up. Good club.

Pity about Fat Sam though.

[superscott]

Liam your not one of them?fairweather hammer!

[STEVIEG]

see your still supporting where the money is, well you won't be welcome as a west ham fan when the take over goes through fairweather boy, bet you were a man u fan before chelsea got money

Liam responding to Lamps in September 1996
after they had just signed Tevez and Mascherano

It almost brings a tear to the eye

[Jinky]

He told me they'd be the biggest club in the world by 2013.

If they do get promoted, I'll be bricking it for the next 12 months.

[liam2me]

Guess who fucked off to Munstershire when it all went tits up??? ^^^^^

Someone's taking a serious rattling after yesterday. Not a peep out of you on this thread for a long, long time, until now.

You would have done better to keep your powder dry for a week or two, but you've shot your load at the faintist tickle and pwned yourself.

[STEVIEG]

Someone's taking a serious rattling after yesterday. Not a peep out of you on this thread for a long, long time, until now.

You would have done better to keep your powder dry for a week or two, but you've shot your load at the faintist tickle and pwned yourself.

I posted here in April

You've gone missing

when West Ham were fashionable a few years ago you bought Kia's assertion that they would be the biggest in the world by 2013 and then you went AWOL when it didn't happen unlike the real fans

Will you be back now that the Hammers are on the up and Munstershire are on the slide?

[liam2me]

I posted here in April

You've gone missing

when West Ham were fashionable a few years ago you bought Kia's assertion that they would be the biggest in the world by 2013 and then you went AWOL when it didn't happen unlike the real fans

Will you be back now that the Hammers are on the up and Munstershire are on the slide?

Transparent doesn't even come close. It's ok lad, I know yesterday was difficult for you and the nasty bullies have been out in force today. It will all be ok soon though. Your English club representatives will be playing for their national side soon and you can unite with your fellow English club supporters in your mutual hatred of Englands national side.

[STEVIEG]

Transparent doesn't even come close. It's ok lad, I know yesterday was difficult for you and the nasty bullies have been out in force today. It will all be ok soon though. Your English club representatives will be playing for their national side soon and you can unite with your fellow English club supporters in your mutual hatred of Englands national side.


"what fucking what"

Speaking of which

will Sir Trevor Brooking be calling for a Wayne Rooney ban against this year?

will he fuck!





I'm doing this thread a favour you've gone and hidden

it's okay, they are going back up

[liam2me]

"what fucking what"

Speaking of which

will Sir Trevor Brooking be calling for a Wayne Rooney ban against this year?

will he fuck!





I'm doing this thread a favour you've gone and hidden

it's okay, they are going back up

Rattled to the very core of your being, pity I can't take all the credit for it, you just haven't the bottle to take on the rest of the WUMs. Today is a win.

[STEVIEG]

When the going got tough the tough went missing

PS-I'm here win, lose or draw and don't desert my team:)

[liam2me]

When the going got tough the tough went missing

PS-I'm here win, lose or draw and don't desert my team:)

And yet another empty haul for the cross channel fisherman. If he keeps coming home empty handed like this, he'll starve

[de mange]

2me was a mad hammers fan alright when they lit up like a motherfucker

But then they didn't light up like a motherfucker anymore and he gave up the ghost

Now they are beginning to ignite and he's back on the wagon so he can remind us that he supported them when they were in the championship... TWICE

What a man.. Fair fucks 2me, stick to your guns lad

[KD Langer]

Transparent doesn't even come close. It's ok lad, I know yesterday was difficult for you and the nasty bullies have been out in force today. It will all be ok soon though. Your English club representatives will be playing for their national side soon and you can unite with your fellow English club supporters in your mutual hatred of Englands national side.

:lol!:

Poor Liam getting bullied............. .........

[nr637]

West Ham boss Sam Allardyce says his team will have to deal with being favourites to win the Championship play-off final.

The Hammers will play Blackpool for a place in the Premier League at Wembley on Saturday 19th May @ 3 pm.

Who needs the Champions League Final!

[ho chi feen]

West Ham boss Sam Allardyce says his team will have to deal with being favourites to win the Championship play-off final.

The Hammers will play Blackpool for a place in the Premier League at Wembley on Saturday 19th May @ 3 pm.

Who needs the Champions League Final!

Chelski, badly! And after last Saturday, more than ever, so do Bayern.

Play-off final should be good craic alright though. I reckon Steve Keen would LUV IT if the hammers fail.

[CORKBHOY]

So what's the story?

Does Liam follow West Ham again or is he waiting until after the play off final?

[superscott]

So what's the story?

Does Liam follow West Ham again or is he waiting until after the play off final?

who cares what Liams doing......Superscot t is off to wembley.out of cork tomorrow night.few beers in the airport then hit london and be proper naughty.

come on you irons!

[KD Langer]

who cares what Liams doing......Superscot t is off to wembley.out of cork tomorrow night.few beers in the airport then hit london and be proper naughty.

come on you irons!

Good luck scotty.

Has Morrison made any impression since joining?

[superscott]

cheers KD,think hes impressed around some night clubs in essex.lol.to be fair hes been injured,so next season will be his time.hopefully in the big league.

if we lose go easy on me ye cnuts

[liam2me]

Blackpool have 10,000 tickets unsold. As for what I'll be doing, I'll be at the club itself, working.

[STEVIEG]

Belated happy birthday Liam

West ham are a better supported club and deserve to go up IMO id be surprised if they lost

[superscott]

in Airport bar now getting in the zone......talk to you ladies monday :)

COYI

[liam2me]

Belated happy birthday Liam

West ham are a better supported club and deserve to go up IMO id be surprised if they lost

Cheers lad.

If only sport was decided by the best set of supporters

[liam2me]

The atmosphere at work tonight is going to be great

[G'luck]

Congrats to West Ham. Lots of time for them as a club. Allardyce is a clown but fuck it.

[Lapsy Pa]

Congrats Scotty.

Hopefully that's the last time I say that this summer.............. ...or any other summer

[POL]

congrats to the genuine fan on here ,superscott

[delzer]

congrats to the genuine fan on here ,superscott

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.

[liam2me]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.

I'm at work at the moment, it's mental outside

[de mange]

I'm at work at the moment, it's mental outside

Poor 2me :rolleyes:

[liam2me]

Poor 2me :rolleyes:

I'm not complaining, it's a good evening

[ASocketFullOfDirt]

Well Deserved.

That Vaz Te is something else.

Well Done Scotty... BEAM EM UP to the Premiership.

[de mange]

I'm not complaining, it's a good evening

Tell us about how you were there when they were in the championship again Liam..

[liam2me]

Tell us about how you were there when they were in the championship again Liam..

What are you on about? I started working here when we were in te championship last time

[marco 2005]

good stuff and congrats

One more London derby to look forward to next season

[ClintofCork]

Fabulous day for my boys!

[Jinky]

Celtic have beaten West ham in the Hong Kong 7s today. You lot must be gutted!

[liam2me]

The entire team are here at the moment, Big Sam has the trophy

[liam2me]

:-)

[RutlandStreet]

Congrats, nice pic Liam:)

[Jinky]

Your moustache is coming on Liam

[liam2me]

Lol, that ain't me, I'm the one behind the camera

[liam2me]

This one is a bit better