John Allen Knows Fuck All

[Redshirter]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won

[toffeebhoy]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won

A bit harsh. Did he know fuck all a year ago?

[raZor]

i deride his management abilities. Too many player went missing today lets spread the blame out a bit....Mulcahy, Gardiner flying off the handle again...the road works in Abbeyleix...and so on..

[toffeebhoy]

i deride his management abilities. Too many player went missing today lets spread the blame out a bit....Mulcahy, Gardiner flying off the handle again...the road works in Abbeyleix...and so on..

Abbeyleix...I've been trying to remember the name of that shit hole for ages.

Bottleneck hell.

[trasnanadtonnta]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won

*usual disclaimers about me not knowing shit about sports but...*

I think that's a bit simplistic. It did seem like Cork were comprehensively out-strategised though. And it was weird trying to follow without seeing it, but there seems to have been some panic on the sidelines too, I gather.

[ho chi feen]

*usual disclaimers about me not knowing shit about sports but...*

I think that's a bit simplistic. It did seem like Cork were comprehensively out-strategised though. And it was weird trying to follow without seeing it, but there seems to have been some panic on the sidelines too, I gather.

Go home, Yank.

[trasnanadtonnta]

Go home, Yank.

Please, Prez, not now. I can't take it. I only just stopped crying like...

[Redshirter]

A bit harsh. Did he know fuck all a year ago?

He knows the same today as he knew a year ago F-U-C-K . A-L-L

[wayne gayle]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won

You, sir are a complete and utter fuckwit.
As you may or may not be aware, during a game substitutions and positional changes are made only after consultation between all of the selectors and the coach.
To put the balme entirely on Allen's shoulders indicates you know knowt about hurling.

[chambers concise]

A knee jerk reaction to losing the game.Me thinks!Well done to killkenny,overall and from the outset they were the better team.
killkenny looked a lot hungrier.Cork stopped the sheflin factor but were not up to the cody factor.

[Loftydog]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won

Go do one you absolute fuckwit

[doing it]

A knee jerk reaction to losing the game.Me thinks!Well done to killkenny,overall and from the outset they were the better team.
killkenny looked a lot hungrier.Cork stopped the sheflin factor but were not up to the cody factor.

we didnt stop shefflin today, we played second best all day. as what was said previously we werent hungry enough. gardnier is always losing the plot, no matter what breaks out he is always involved in the fight.

the question to ask is where was corcoran today, i really appreciate everything he has done for cork hurling but maybe now is the time to hang up his boots.

we should be proud of what this team has done, we have reached final after final but in true sport fashion the criticism comes out.

they will take on board what happened today and we will be back no doubt because we are the rebel county and we are the home of sport in ireland.

so less of the bad stuff and be positive for the future.

[ComfortablyNumb]

we didnt stop shefflin today, we played second best all day. as what was said previously we werent hungry enough. gardnier is always losing the plot, no matter what breaks out he is always involved in the fight.

the question to ask is where was corcoran today, i really appreciate everything he has done for cork hurling but maybe now is the time to hang up his boots.

we should be proud of what this team has done, we have reached final after final but in true sport fashion the criticism comes out.

they will take on board what happened today and we will be back no doubt because we are the rebel county and we are the home of sport in ireland.

so less of the bad stuff and be positive for the future.

Amen to that come da rebels.

[Echoboy]

When was the last time Cork lost a game ??

To say Allen knows fúck all is highlighting your own stupidity.

[D number 10]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won
if i could kick d bollix out of ya u ungrateful prick i would and so would most of the county you tosser

[Rebelred]

knee jerk reaction.We lose one game and all of a sudden we've the worst manager going is it? Thats the kind of reaction Dublin fans normally have, get some perspective and look at what this team has achieved over the last 4 years

[Up The Rebels]

When was the last time Cork lost a game ??

To say Allen knows fúck all is highlighting your own stupidity.

We were lucky in last years championship we were lucky in this years championship yesterday our luck and John Allen's luck at long last came to a end Killkenny should have us beat by more yesterday anybody that does not agree is only highlighting his own stupidity

[Rebelred]

We were lucky in last years championship we were lucky in this years championship yesterday our luck and John Allen's luck at long last came to a end Killkenny should have us beat by more yesterday anybody that does not agree is only highlighting his own stupidity
I don't think anybody is arguing that Kilkenny werent the better side yesterday,the world and his mother could see they clearly were.
What we're saying is that just because we lost yesterday,it doesnt make Allen a bad manager.

[POL]

Allen said this year that Cork can only beat themselves, that was stupid comment

[Pablo Escobar Gaviria]

I don't think anybody is arguing that Kilkenny werent the better side yesterday,the world and his mother could see they clearly were.

cork shouldn't of shown up, they were an embarrassment.

[HappyMonday83]

I'm not sure how much at fault Cork were yesterday, Right a few players underperformed and John Allen could'ent change it around. But I think that was down to kilkenny and Cody, Cork Played the type of game that got them to the last four finals, so you can't blame them for that, after four years Kilkenny figured out how to beat this Cork team and I say fair play to them. They showed real hunger on the pitch and should have won by more and only for a great match by Donal Og they would have beaten us off the pitch. Cork now have until next summer to come up with some new ideas and improve on the old ones, and I for one think they can do it. Come on Cork.
Ye may now tell me how little I know about sport and so on...

[Up The Rebels]

After seeing Cork's poor performance yesterday and in this year's championship and last years championship the qustion has to be asked why did Donal O'Grady leave the job anybody know ????

[MonTheHoops]

I don't have as much faith in him as I did in O' Grady but he knows more about the game than anyone on here does.

We lost. So what? Can't win it every year and if we did it wouldn't be long before the game died. Build a bridge and get the fuck over it. Beaten by a better team on the day.

[Langer Dan]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won

An bit over the top there chief.

Still though, the majority of the blame does lie at the feet of the management. It was obvious that Pat Mul couldnt cope with Fogarty. As bad as Diarmuids flail was, Pats half arsed attempt to challenge Fogarty was even worse.
Plus any management team that wasnt fucking Donal Og out of it from the high heavens over the puck outs has a lot to answer for.

Pat Mul should of gone after 20mins , him staying on a slong as he did cost us the match.

Plus what they did to Kieran Murphy was fucking Lousy.

[Rebelred]

cork shouldn't of shown up, they were an embarrassment.
losing by three points in an all ireland final is not an embarrasment.

[pudgee]

Plus what they did to Kieran Murphy was fucking Lousy.

Very true.
The funny thing about watching the match yesterday, in a non-Cork pub, was realising that the majority of the country hates us. I mean, I would've understood if we were playing a genuine underdog side, but this was KK.

Oh, and the GAA knows nothing about decent playing surfaces

ffs mockery etc

[Langer Dan]

Very true.
The funny thing about watching the match yesterday, in a non-Cork pub, was realising that the majority of the country hates us. I mean, I would've understood if we were playing a genuine underdog side, but this was KK.

Oh, and the GAA knows nothing about decent playing surfaces

ffs mockery etc
Hmm, I think if the entire country hates you, you're doing something right. Success breeds contempt especially in Ireland (begrudgery central) , so Its a mark of Cork's success in how much they're disliked.

Shur everyone will hate Kilkenny next year.

[HappyMonday83]

Very true.
The funny thing about watching the match yesterday, in a non-Cork pub, was realising that the majority of the country hates us. I mean, I would've understood if we were playing a genuine underdog side, but this was KK.

Oh, and the GAA knows nothing about decent playing surfaces

ffs mockery etc
Their just jealous.

[Up For The Ba]

, in a non-Cork pub, was realising that the majority of the country hates us.

In London? ;-)

[Up The Rebels]

losing by three points in an all ireland final is not an embarrasment.

We were very lucky that we did not lose by much more

[Star Trader]

John Allen is a good manager ...... yesterday wasnt our day the line were partly to blame but give credit where its due to Kilkenny.

To the game & we were beaten by a better team on the day,the team who were up for it more,Kilkennys attitude was spot on,they hassled & harried Cork throughout,never let Cork use their short passing game.If you look at the match again Cork started brightly & led by 0-04 to 0-03 after 10 minutes,why because we played a direct game,Niall Mac,Ben OConnor & Joe Deane struck lovely points & we were motoring well.But then the short pass game .... look when it works its beautiful as we saw when Deane set up Jerry OConnor for a nice point in the first half but when it breaks down its awful.Too often it broke down.

Pat Mulcahy was struggling at corner back yet the change didnt come until 15 minutes into the 2nd half.The selectors have to be more honest it has to be said.Our forward line as a unit are not good enough.We have 2 top class forwards - Joe Deane & Ben OConnor ....... unfortunately Corcoran's legs are gone,Niall Mac & Timmy Mac are hard workers but not great finishers .......

Cork can come back from this but Kilkenny are noe the team everyone has to beat next year !!

[Star Trader]

Now finally the media blows Cork up all the time a bit like Dublin , on the Evening Echo every week we have this boards column about how we will win on Sunday,football or hurling or whatever ....... its a load of crap & cockiness on the part of whoever writes it ...... it was the same in every game this year - now Ill love to see what they have to write after a loss ....... Kilkennys tactics were spot on & played brilliantly .....

Also on the Echo last week we had this crap about the players girlfriends - it was pure UK tabloid crap

Then we had the comparison with the 3 in a row team - by all means have the comparison IF WE WIN the 3 in a row .... we didnt win it so there is no point in comparing them ...... its a very good Cork team dont get me wrong, any time you win 13 championship games in a row you are truly special ....

Finally why did they get Roy Keane to come in ......... while I admire Rouy Keane as a player he is not the type of guy to give a talk to this Cork panel ....... he admitted himself recently he regretted walking out on his own country & all this talk again about going for 5 in a row ...... again why dont you win 3 in a row first ...

No wander Kilkenny are laughing , they didnt need Roy Keane , they are no nonsense hurling men who are once again sitting at the top table

[Bantry Blue]

Star Trader - - How in the name of God do you think that Joe Deane is a top class forward when all he does in any game is tap over simple frees from 20 and 30 metres out anybody could do what he does

[Star Trader]

Well did you see Joes performance against Clare this year , watch it & think again ...... one of the points he got from play that day was a joy to watch ..... Remember he has 3 All Stars & that says eomething ....

Stick to the football Bantry Blue !!

[Langer Dan]

Joes a legend.

Simple as that.

[MonTheHoops]

Star Trader - - How in the name of God do you think that Joe Deane is a top class forward when all he does in any game is tap over simple frees from 20 and 30 metres out anybody could do what he does

Jesus if anyone could do it then he'd have been replaced long ago.

[Rebelred]

We were very lucky that we did not lose by much more
oh I agree,the goal put a gloss on the result.But still, that was not an embarrasment,as the post I was replying to said.Embarrassment is Offaly V KK last year, it's Dinny Cahill after watching Corcoran destroy Antrim single handedly in 04.that's embarrasment, yesterday was just disappointing.

Lets keep everything in perspective people.

[Langer Dan]

oh I agree,the goal pput a gloss on the result.But still, that was not an embarrasment,as the post I was replying to said.Embarrassment is Offaly V KK last year, it's Dinny Cahill after watching Corcoran destroy Antrim single handedly in 04.that's embarrasment, yesterday was just disappointing.

Lets keep everything in perspective people.

Agreed, plus Its a mockery If Shefflin gets Hurler of the year after his misfiring performance yesterday.

[Rebelred]

Agreed, plus Its a mockery If Shefflin gets Hurler of the year after his misfiring performance yesterday.
Cha Fitzpatrick has to be in with a shout for hurler of the year. Donal óg Cusack aswell, although they'll never give it to a keeper.

[Up For The Ba]

John Allen is a good manager ...... yesterday wasnt our day the line were partly to blame but give credit where its due to Kilkenny.

To the game & we were beaten by a better team on the day,the team who were up for it more,Kilkennys attitude was spot on,they hassled & harried Cork throughout,never let Cork use their short passing game.If you look at the match again Cork started brightly & led by 0-04 to 0-03 after 10 minutes,why because we played a direct game,Niall Mac,Ben OConnor & Joe Deane struck lovely points & we were motoring well.But then the short pass game .... look when it works its beautiful as we saw when Deane set up Jerry OConnor for a nice point in the first half but when it breaks down its awful.Too often it broke down.

Pat Mulcahy was struggling at corner back yet the change didnt come until 15 minutes into the 2nd half.The selectors have to be more honest it has to be said.Our forward line as a unit are not good enough.We have 2 top class forwards - Joe Deane & Ben OConnor ....... unfortunately Corcoran's legs are gone,Niall Mac & Timmy Mac are hard workers but not great finishers .......

Cork can come back from this but Kilkenny are noe the team everyone has to beat next year !!

Good post.

[PermanentMarker]

John Allen is a good manager ...... yesterday wasnt our day the line were partly to blame but give credit where its due to Kilkenny.

To the game & we were beaten by a better team on the day,the team who were up for it more,Kilkennys attitude was spot on,they hassled & harried Cork throughout,never let Cork use their short passing game.If you look at the match again Cork started brightly & led by 0-04 to 0-03 after 10 minutes,why because we played a direct game,Niall Mac,Ben OConnor & Joe Deane struck lovely points & we were motoring well.But then the short pass game .... look when it works its beautiful as we saw when Deane set up Jerry OConnor for a nice point in the first half but when it breaks down its awful.Too often it broke down.

Pat Mulcahy was struggling at corner back yet the change didnt come until 15 minutes into the 2nd half.The selectors have to be more honest it has to be said.Our forward line as a unit are not good enough.We have 2 top class forwards - Joe Deane & Ben OConnor ....... unfortunately Corcoran's legs are gone,Niall Mac & Timmy Mac are hard workers but not great finishers .......

Cork can come back from this but Kilkenny are noe the team everyone has to beat next year !!

I agree with everything except the bit about Niall Mac. I think he showed savage hunger out there yesterday. He always gets into scuffles but that's a real sign he's up for it.

Cork just need to re-jig a few things and we'll be back in serious contention again next year. There's no massive surgery to be done. There's no fitness issues and the players are there.

There's a comment in today's examiner about Kilkenny making yesterday's game look like Tyrone Vs Kerry in 2003 crowding out Cork's half backs. I think its true but look at Ulster football now!

[Langer Dan]

Cha Fitzpatrick has to be in with a shout for hurler of the year. Donal óg Cusack aswell, although they'll never give it to a keeper.

TBH I thought Ronan Curran was the outsanding player of the Championship this year, but they wont give it to a Cork player in a fit after yesterday.

[FreakPower]

Very disappointing, but I'm not that surprised. Seemed that the hype got to them a little bit, and they were well rocked by Kilkenny's intensity. Savage hunger.

I'd like to see them going back to a more direct style of hurling, and bringing in some new blood. One of the advantages of Cody's system is that with the constant rotation, you have a large pool of players that are used to playing with each other in high-intensity matches. Cork's policy of sticking with the same 15 through thick and thin, regardless of individual form, means that when plan A doesn't work, we're often blooding new players and hoping for a miracle. Cathal Naughton delivered that against Waterford (a game we were very lucky to win), but you can't count on it. Having more variety in the side would lead to a more fluid substitution process, I think, and also give us the opportunity to rest players who are having a bad run.

This set of 15 players were going to have a bad day sooner or later, too many of the games this year were close, and we can't expect them to be able to reel in their opponents every time. A pity there was no plan B. It's simplistic to blame the management -- Cork have always had this policy of sticking with a settled 15 -- maybe it's time for a change.

Kilkenny adopted almost Armagh-like tactics on occasion -- two and three-man tackles were very effective against the running game: how many times did we see the half-backs and midfielders try a desperate handpass over the heads of multiple Kilkenny tacklers, or pass it back a few feet to a player who instantly found himself in trouble? Back to first time hurling, overhead striking, and especially ground hurling. We took too much out of the ball, and to quote Ring out of context, they were buzzing around us like wasps.

My only gripe with the management was the fiasco at right-corner forward -- they took off Ronan (who wasn't getting enough ball to be judged, IMHO), brought on Kieran Murphy, took him off for Cian O'Connor, and took HIM off for Conor Cusack. Waste of subs.

And the cruelty of Ben's goal! I thought we were going to pull it off!

[ho chi feen]

while I admire Rouy Keane as a player he is not the type of guy to give a talk to this Cork panel ....... he admitted himself recently he regretted walking out on his own country.


Keane didn't walk out on his country, he was sent home.

You know nothing about football. Nothing.

FFS

Mockery

[Aphex]

Keane didn't walk out on his country, he was sent home.

You know nothing about football. Nothing.

FFS

Mockery

ah but he probably knew there was no way he could have stayed after his outburst chief...no doubt he was more than happy to fuck off...

[ho chi feen]

ah but he probably knew there was no way he could have stayed after his outburst chief...no doubt he was more than happy to fuck off...

We can all speculate. Maybe McCarthy snuck in to his bed the night before and bummed him? Maybe Stan pinched his bum in the shower? Maybe he had an outbreak of chronic halitosis and wanted to spend some time by himself?

What we do know is that Mick sent him home.

FACT

[Aphex]

but wasn't the door left open for him? he didn't want to be there man...

[ho chi feen]

but wasn't the door left open for him? he didn't want to be there man...

The Manager shut the door very firmly, and despite some hopeful noise from one or two of the squad members remanining, the manager's decision must be final.

You know nothing about door closing mechanics and football management.

I suggest you forward your CV to the FAI post-haste.

[Bantry Blue]

Allen has got to go as he could not organise a piss up in a BREWERY

[Sound]

Allen has got to go as he could not organise a piss up in a BREWERY

You are a disgrace.

[mushypea]

Allen has got to go as he could not organise a piss up in a BREWERY

Cork loose one Championship game and you think he deserves to be sacked:rolleyes:

[Rebelred]

Allen has got to go as he could not organise a piss up in a BREWERY
you were probably praising him as a tactical genius after the clare game last year, or even bringing on Naughton v waterford. John Allen knows more about hurling than you could ever dream of.His record speaks for itself, 10 matches in charge,9 wins, 1 defeat.

[Star Trader]

Keane didn't walk out on his country, he was sent home.

You know nothing about football. Nothing.

FFS

Mockery

Yah he was sent home but didnt he walk out first , anyway I really admire Roy Keane as a player but I dont think Cork management should have got him in & speak about going for 5 in a row.The reason being that they didnt even win the 3 in a row at that stage.This Cork team are almost as professional as Roy Keane & many players across the pond.Look at Sean Og he is the most dedicated sportsman Ive ever seen in any sport in the world ,& he doesnt need Keane to come in & give him advice ..... so yes I do know enough about football my friend.

[The flourishin state]

i dont think he's a great manager like he inherited a team which donal o grady built and he hasnt introduce any players into it like i think Pat Mulcahy should have been replaced after 10 ins especiall when you've a player like wayne sherlock ready to come in. all in all the manager needs to search and scour for some scoring forwards cos we just dont pose enough ofr a thrat in fromt of goal like timmy mac for all his hard work doesnt put scores on the board and neil ronan isnt prolfic and neither is naill mac or corcoran. outside of deane and ben theres no real fear when cork players have the ball

[POL]

some overpaid tosser who walked out on his country has cost Cork, at the very least, 3 in a row. Who the fuck does Keane think he is?

[Noel123ie]

John Allen is GOD

[Sound]

some overpaid tosser who walked out on his country has cost Cork, at the very least, 3 in a row. Who the fuck does Keane think he is?


:lol:

[KolaKubes]

i think Pat Mulcahy should have been replaced after 10

Let's all be honest.

Mulcahy should have been dropped a few games ago.

[Sound]

Let's all be honest.

Mulcahy should have been dropped a few games ago.

Of course he should but these begrudgers sticking the knife into Allen are a disgrace. This was the first time that his imaginative substitutions didn't work out- would these tools have put on Naughton in the last game?

They would in me hole.

[ho chi feen]

some overpaid tosser who walked out on his country has cost Cork, at the very least, 3 in a row. Who the fuck does Keane think he is?


Post of the year.

I salute you, POL.

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums//images/smilie/icon_lol.gif

[Langer Dan]

Allen has got to go as he could not organise a piss up in a BREWERY

Nah biy.

[KolaKubes]

Of course he should but these begrudgers sticking the knife into Allen are a disgrace.

The only thing I'm not too happy with Allen about is that he talked a bit too much about how much the cats wanted it. I think that's a bit unfair. No manager is infallible and I think he should accept that HE got caught out badly too on Sunday. It wasn't just the players bottling it, we were tactically wrong for much of the game and the buck stops with Allen for that.

[Langer Dan]

Of course he should but these begrudgers sticking the knife into Allen are a disgrace. .
Agreed, these sunshine supporters are fucking sickening.

[Bantry Blue]

you were probably praising him as a tactical genius after the clare game last year, or even bringing on Naughton v waterford. John Allen knows more about hurling than you could ever dream of.His record speaks for itself, 10 matches in charge,9 wins, 1 defeat.

You do not know what i know or i do not know what you know

Most of the games that Cork won when Allen was the Manager we were very lucky to win ..We were not so lucky on Sunday that was why we lost

[Bantry Blue]

i dont think he's a great manager like he inherited a team which donal o grady built and he hasnt introduce any players into it like i think Pat Mulcahy should have been replaced after 10 ins especiall when you've a player like wayne sherlock ready to come in. all in all the manager needs to search and scour for some scoring forwards cos we just dont pose enough ofr a thrat in fromt of goal like timmy mac for all his hard work doesnt put scores on the board and neil ronan isnt prolfic and neither is naill mac or corcoran. outside of deane and ben theres no real fear when cork players have the ball

Always nice to hear somebody talk sense on the subject

[Sound]

You do not know what i know or i do not know what you know

Most of the games that Cork won when Allen was the Manager we were very lucky to win ..We were not so lucky on Sunday that was why we lost

It's the easiest thing in the world to call a guy lucky after the fact. Unless you've been saying this all along or sighing loudly when Naughton was introduced against Waterford- then you can get to fuck.

Short memories.

[KolaKubes]

neil ronan isnt prolfic

Having seen Ronan rack up some serious scorelines for Colmans at full forward, I beg to differ.

Actually, I think the failure to get the best out of Ronan (I presume it's some attitude thing again) is a fairly serious fuck up on management's part. He's a very talented hurler.

He obviously doesn't tick some boxes for the selectors over the years. Attitude?

[Rebelred]

You do not know what i know or i do not know what you know

Most of the games that Cork won when Allen was the Manager we were very lucky to win ..We were not so lucky on Sunday that was why we lost
what games were we lucky to win so?
we lost on sunday because we were beaten by a better team on the day, not because we were unlucky.

[Some user]

The only thing I'm not too happy with Allen about is that he talked a bit too much about how much the cats wanted it. I think that's a bit unfair. No manager is infallible and I think he should accept that HE got caught out badly too on Sunday. It wasn't just the players bottling it, we were tactically wrong for much of the game and the buck stops with Allen for that.

Fair comment but I think his statements imply that he might be responsible for not instilling the hunger into the team. Just because he has made a mistake doesn't mean he has to resign. Its not politics.

Kilkenny were made to look very ordinary in 2004 when Cork beat them 0-17 to 0-9 but Cody didn't resign and wasn't sacked. He had his doubters but look at him now. Allen showed his players loyalty over the last two years and more often than not it worked out. It would be nice to see the County Board do the same for the management.

[Langer Dan]

John Allen should be shot. He knows nothing about hurling Nothing. My nan in Naples knows more.

Mockery

etc

Pfft,stick to the fairy sports fella:D

Mockery, etc

[ho chi feen]

John Allen should be shot. He knows nothing about hurling Nothing. My nan in Naples knows more.

Mockery

etc

Gwonyalanger

[Bantry Blue]

what games were we lucky to win so?
we lost on sunday because we were beaten by a better team on the day, not because we were unlucky.

We were lucky in last years QF and SF against Waterford and Clare and also in the Final when the Rock fouled a Galway player the ref allowed play to go on when the ball was cleared downfield Cork scored a goal which proved to be the match winner also in this years championship Limerick and Waterford came as close as it was possible to beating us

[Bould Tady Quill]

Finally flipped with the boss here, I couldn’t listen to him vomit forth anymore of his bullshit opinions on Hurling. The final straw was when he used Pat ‘The Back of my Sack’ Spillane as a source for his opinion that JA will “retire” after last Sundays result. FUCK SAKE….The prick wouldn’t know what side of a Hurley to catch let alone talk with ANY authority on it…..

[Armitage Conway the 2nd]

Abbeyleix...I've been trying to remember the name of that shit hole for ages.

Bottleneck hell.

Lads,
from the cork side turn left at the hotel, then right at the first T-Junction you arrive at, it will bring out by that pub that poses as a shop/barbers/clinic/pet store/courthouse

From the Dub side Take a right when you see the ballyroan sign. up about a mile take a left....you come to a main road, left again and you arrive into the village at the point where that langer gaurd is doing a shite job

[Rebelred]

We were lucky in last years QF and SF against Waterford and Clare and also in the Final when the Rock fouled a Galway player the ref allowed play to go on when the ball was cleared downfield Cork scored a goal which proved to be the match winner also in this years championship Limerick and Waterford came as close as it was possible to beating us
we beat Galway comfortably last year,never had to go into top gear.The Waterford match was over with 5 minutes to go and the Clare game was a fantastic game of hurling where both sides played out of their skins.

[Bantry Blue]

we beat Galway comfortably last year,never had to go into top gear.The Waterford match was over with 5 minutes to go and the Clare game was a fantastic game of hurling where both sides played out of their skins.

Would we have beat Galway comfortably if we had not got that Goal that we should not have got ??????

[Bould Tady Quill]

Would we have beat Galway comfortably if we had not got that Goal that we should not have got ??????

Would we have beat Galway if that Tayto bag hadn’t blown across the pitch at the very moment it did thus distracting the Galway keeper for a split second?

[Rebelred]

Would we have beat Galway comfortably if we had not got that Goal that we should not have got ??????
I believe we would have.We were well in control of that game.

[Pez123]

What John Allen knows about hurling you could write it on the back of a two penny stamp in two words Fuck All ....it was clear to all that he had to make changes early in the game as cork were second best yet he left that good for nothing waster Timmy McCarthy on for most of the game he replaced him when it was to late had McCarthy being replaced early in the Game Cork could still have won
I know more about hurling than you do and I've only been here for two years, you know fuck all (yer mam cooks a nice breakfast though)..;)

[donieG]

Who's John Allen?

[wunhunglo]

Star Trader - - How in the name of God do you think that Joe Deane is a top class forward when all he does in any game is tap over simple frees from 20 and 30 metres out anybody could do what he does

If anyone ever asks you, 'Do you know anything about hurling ?'
Just say, 'No Sir'

Ah yes Bantry....the home of hurling

[Redshirter]

I know more about hurling than you do and I've only been here for two years, you know fuck all (yer mam cooks a nice breakfast though)..;)

Did they play hurling where you were before you came to this country the only place outside Ireland where they play any game similar to hurling is in the Highlands of Scotland it is called shinty

[Sound]

Did they play hurling where you were before you came to this country the only place outside Ireland where they play any game similar to hurling is in the Highlands of Scotland it is called shinty

You're lucky you weren't in the voting for idiot of the year after this thread.

[Fr. Turncoat]

a question from a girl: do you share your name with the current Cork coach, John Allen?
I hope so, because that could be the only reason for your post.
i like this girl's style.

[donieG]

emmmh by the way that was a joke lads...

[Up The Rebels]

Did they play hurling where you were before you came to this country the only place outside Ireland where they play any game similar to hurling is in the Highlands of Scotland it is called shinty

Hurling is played in England . America . Canada . Australia and used to be played in Argentina the Irish club in Buenos Aires is still called the Hurling club is there more places outside Ireland where Hurling is played ????

[trasnanadtonnta]

Hurling is played in England . America . Canada . Australia and used to be played in Argentina the Irish club in Buenos Aires is still called the Hurling club is there more places outside Ireland where Hurling is played ????

Well, there is at least one hurley in Fiji, whether or not the game is actually played.

[Sorriedarelike]

Keane didn't walk out on his country, he was sent home.

You know nothing about football. Nothing.

FFS

Mockery

Garbage

[toffeebhoy]

Well, there is at least one hurley in Fiji, whether or not the game is actually played.

It's a bit like Fermanagh...

[miahp]

Hope you weren't involved in any sideline decision-making or we would've been waiting !

[ho chi feen]

Garbage


Qué?

[Sorriedarelike]

Qué?

Garbage as in bollocks

Keane knew what it would be like, why would it be different? he went with a shit attitude, caused all the mayhem and then said - "what, what did I do?"

FFS..........we all have shit to put with all the time, he had it a few times a year with Ireland and then back to his perfect little world in Manchester - he couldn't deal with it one more time? - he knew well what he was doing and he didn't give a damn ............

And lets be very clear here - the people he left down were the youngsters back home - you should have seen the 7 - 8 year olds around me, they couldn't understand what they hell was going on - their first world cup and its acted out like something from Dail Eireann

Oh, he knew well. If he is aware enough to speak out about "prawn sandwhichs" in Old Trafford, he is aware enough to know what the worldcup means to youngfellas ...........and what a message for them - if its not perfect than cook up the sulk of the decade.

Why wouldn't Keane put with it? he did up till then - they had qualified

No he's an ignorant self-absorbed tosser, he left this Country down badly and he has a long way to go before he is forgiven in these parts.

And this shite about who sent who home - thats nothing but she said, he said cover - it goes alot deeper than that and the root cause is a man who had everything except a little bit of respect and empathy with the rest of us and the non-stop shit we have to put with - so fuck him.

[ho chi feen]

Garbage as in bollocks

Keane knew what it would be like, why would it be different? he went with a shit attitude, caused all the mayhem and then said - "what, what did I do?"

FFS..........we all have shit to put with all the time, he had it a few times a year with Ireland and then back to his perfect little world in Manchester - he couldn't deal with it one more time? - he knew well what he was doing and he didn't give a damn ............

And lets be very clear here - the people he left down were the youngsters back home - you should have seen the 7 - 8 year olds around me, they couldn't understand what they hell was going on - their first world cup and its acted out like something from Dail Eireann

Oh, he knew well. If he is aware enough to speak out about "prawn sandwhichs" in Old Trafford, he is aware enough to know what the worldcup means to youngfellas ...........and what a message for them - if its not perfect than cook up the sulk of the decade.

Why wouldn't Keane put with it? he did up till then - they had qualified

No he's an ignorant self-absorbed tosser, he left this Country down badly and he has a long way to go before he is forgiven in these parts.

And this shite about who sent who home - thats nothing but she said, he said cover - it goes alot deeper than that and the root cause is a man who had everything except a little bit of respect and empathy with the rest of us and the non-stop shit we have to put with - so fuck him.

None of this alters the simple fact that he was sent home by Mick.

[Sorriedarelike]

None of this alters the simple fact that he was sent home by Mick.

hmm .....a bit thinny like say ...........Hitler in April 1945 - "none of this alters the simple fact that the border incident way back in '39 was the Poles fault not ours".

[Langer Dan]

who the fuck do u think u are, u havent a clue, i was involved with cork this year on the physio side of things, i was in that dressing room after the all ireland final, u have no idea what that man went through, how dare u say john knows fuck all, that man is a legend, every single player had there head down in that dressing room, they felt that they left us, the cork fans, down.
put they didnt after brian cody came in to say his unlucky speech john made a speech i will never forget he actually lifted our spirits considering, so fuck u and anybody else who says john knows fuck all u call urself a cork fan ur a disgrace if u are one

if cork won u would be saying he's a legend

redshirter ur a waste of space and certainly not a cork gaa fan

well said.

[POL]

Garbage as in bollocks

Keane knew what it would be like, why would it be different? he went with a shit attitude, caused all the mayhem and then said - "what, what did I do?"

FFS..........we all have shit to put with all the time, he had it a few times a year with Ireland and then back to his perfect little world in Manchester - he couldn't deal with it one more time? - he knew well what he was doing and he didn't give a damn ............

And lets be very clear here - the people he left down were the youngsters back home - you should have seen the 7 - 8 year olds around me, they couldn't understand what they hell was going on - their first world cup and its acted out like something from Dail Eireann

Oh, he knew well. If he is aware enough to speak out about "prawn sandwhichs" in Old Trafford, he is aware enough to know what the worldcup means to youngfellas ...........and what a message for them - if its not perfect than cook up the sulk of the decade.

Why wouldn't Keane put with it? he did up till then - they had qualified

No he's an ignorant self-absorbed tosser, he left this Country down badly and he has a long way to go before he is forgiven in these parts.

And this shite about who sent who home - thats nothing but she said, he said cover - it goes alot deeper than that and the root cause is a man who had everything except a little bit of respect and empathy with the rest of us and the non-stop shit we have to put with - so fuck him.

well said. The Prick walked on his country, his apologists can dress it up anyway they want

[Bantry Blue]

well said. The Prick walked on his country, his apologists can dress it up anyway they want

Wel,said my friend .....And the Prick should never have been left play for Ireland again after what he done he tried his best to ruin World Cup 2002 for his country