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megatron
02-09-2006, 01:16 AM
were back in a final for the 4th time in a row, going for 3 all ireland titles in a row, the question is can we do it? obviously im gonna say yes, but i have never seen a team like this cork team that is so fit, strong and confident, and not only that but banter these players have together is unreal there like one big gaa club, people who play this sport understand what im saying the craic u have in the dressing room and on the training field. i really cant wait for this weekend to begin i have never been so confident in 29 men,john allen and co. its gonna be a battle to the last but we can do it, there gonna pull hard but we have to pull harder, we have to fight for every ball like our lives depends on it, and we the cork fans have to produce like what we do in every game, be shouting and roaring for the rebels.

best to luck to each and every member of the cork panel, management and everone else who is involved.

for me its gonna be a weekend i will never forget

lets hope we can do it

best of luck lads

come on the rebels

Ciotóg
02-09-2006, 01:19 AM
Ah gowan. Tell us. You're really the subcontractor who was brought in to give the half-time team talk, aren't you.

Rousing in fairness.

I'll be watching from the lower Cusack.

storysham
02-09-2006, 02:39 AM
were back in a final for the 4th time in a row, going for 3 all ireland titles in a row, the question is can we do it? obviously im gonna say yes, but i have never seen a team like this cork team that is so fit, strong and confident, and not only that but banter these players have together is unreal there like one big gaa club, people who play this sport understand what im saying the craic u have in the dressing room and on the training field. i really cant wait for this weekend to begin i have never been so confident in 29 men,john allen and co. its gonna be a battle to the last but we can do it, there gonna pull hard but we have to pull harder, we have to fight for every ball like our lives depends on it, and we the cork fans have to produce like what we do in every game, be shouting and roaring for the rebels.

best to luck to each and every member of the cork panel, management and everone else who is involved.

for me its gonna be a weekend i will never forget

lets hope we can do it

best of luck lads

come on the rebels

i presume YOU had no problem getting a ticket.

Forsberg
02-09-2006, 04:32 AM
Congratulations on the 1,000,000 thread about the final. You recieve two tickets to the final for your troubles.

Fantastic.

Langer Dan
02-09-2006, 07:22 PM
Up the rebels,

fLYING UP IN THE MORNING, CANT FUPPING WAIT.

kerrybabe
02-09-2006, 07:45 PM
Up the rebels,

fLYING UP IN THE MORNING, CANT FUPPING WAIT.
Are you going up on the 11.50 flight?

Langer Dan
02-09-2006, 08:18 PM
nah, the 9.50 flight.

Loftydog
02-09-2006, 09:09 PM
Come On!!!

miahp
02-09-2006, 11:38 PM
Not much sleep tonight and tomorrow night if they win and Dublin has the honour of being Langer-land on a temporary basis !

GOD
03-09-2006, 08:07 AM
Come on the Rebels.

mushypea
03-09-2006, 10:19 AM
hardly slept last night, maybe thats because there was a KK man in the bed with me.......ALL IRELAND DAY IS HERE!!!:p :p :p

farranreeboy
03-09-2006, 01:00 PM
best of luck to the boys today

UP DE REBELS

ComfortablyNumb
03-09-2006, 01:03 PM
All the best today biys - off we go for the 3 in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laa la la la la......

Loftydog
03-09-2006, 01:23 PM
hardly slept last night, maybe thats because there was a KK man in the bed with me.......ALL IRELAND DAY IS HERE!!!:p :p :p

Sleeping with the enemy eh?!

chalkitdown
03-09-2006, 06:09 PM
Oh well. :cry:

They were the better team, though. They deserved the win.

Riordan
03-09-2006, 06:12 PM
Oh well. :cry:

They were the better team, though. They deserved the win.

Aye.

raZor
03-09-2006, 06:14 PM
They looked like they wanted it more.

KolaKubes
03-09-2006, 06:19 PM
Fair play to Cody.

He was tactically spot on. Stopped Cork playing the short game, their forwards worked like dogs to stop the Cork backs playing the ball out, under the dropping ball, they put the likes of Curran off and were first to the second ball. It turned it into a scrappy game but one which Kilkenny then were playing on their own terms.

You could see Cork struggling badly to deal with it and there was no Plan B with the Kilkenny backs cleaning up. It wasn't pretty and, to be honest, I think Cork played what little nice hurling there was in it but Kilkenny were fair in the challenge.

If I was to be critical of John Allen, it'd be that we didn't have that Plan B and that Mulcahy (arguably) showed today why Sherlock should have been in in front of him all year, captain or not.

As for next year, the league's going to be important because there's a need for some young lads to be blooded. In particular, it looked like a game too far for Corcoran.

I'm depressed but if we're honest, all the narrow margins on the way to this final should have been a warning. They mainly came from us going to sleep for periods and relying on this finishing spurt which a punch drunk Cork couldn't provide today.

trasnanadtonnta
03-09-2006, 06:44 PM
If your strategy is basically okay, grand, you can wake up in the last quarter and pull it back. But if you're outmanoeuvered, it's not that simple. Fair play to KK, they deserved it. Fair play to everyone of those Cork men, they've given us a great few years, whatever happens now.

Del
03-09-2006, 06:46 PM
what was the score?

trasnanadtonnta
03-09-2006, 06:48 PM
1-16 to 1-13.

KolaKubes
03-09-2006, 06:50 PM
Fair play to everyone of those Cork men, they've given us a great few years, whatever happens now.

Absolutely.

They set the standard but with that goes putting a giant target on your back and inviting people to spend winters plotting your demise!

Hopefully we won't have to endure a lean spell like after 2000 though now. Enough talent in this squad to look towards being in a fifth consecutive final.

Rebelred
04-09-2006, 09:48 AM
Better team won,no doubt about it and congrats to KK. Cork never really showed up,second to everything,you could see that the Kilkenny lads seemed to have a greater hunger,were willing to scrap for everything. Also,they're forwards were capable of creating their own scores when ours could not.

This is still a great Cork team, so lets all get out tonight to the homecoming and welcome them home

Up the rebels!

Pablo Escobar Gaviria
04-09-2006, 11:08 AM
Better team won,no doubt about it

so true.

Up For The Ba
04-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Congrats to Kilkenny, they deserved to win, no doubt about that. Cork were over elaborate at times, something which they get away with against lesser oposition. Back to the drawing board, hopefully Setanta might consider coming back to replace the absolute legend that is Brian Corcoran.

Sully was a joke, cost us the goal and more, Pat Mul wasnt great I know but if Sherlock is to come back into the team next year its Sully i`d be looking at ahead of Pat Mul.

Langer Dan
04-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Gutted, a bitterly disappointing game.

Cork are a better side than the showing they gave yesterday. They simply didnt perform on the day.
Too many players wer passengers for Cork to ever win this final.

The positives; Niall Mac was outstanding, he fought toe to toe with Kilkenny, never gave up and was carrying the half forward line on his back.If we had 15 players who ccould have delivered a game like Niall we'd be welcoming home the three in a row tonight.

Brian Murphy was also immense, he won almost every ball he contested, Also Ronan Curran gave a fine account of himself winning some sterling ball, no doubt he wont get hurler of the year though.

The negatives. Pat Mul, a disaster, how he stayed on as long as he did is beyond me. Fogarty a nobody, took him to the cleaners, then Sherlock put him in his pocket.The winnning and losing of the game was right there.

Diarmuid O'Sullivan, the flap for the goal was unforgivable and he looked under pressure from high ball all afternoon. Hes been threatening to make a match losing error all summer and yesterday he delivered on that promise.

Timmy Mac, Hes shit, a totally brainless idiot. His game was summed up for me when in the 2nd half instead of passing to Jerry who was in acres he did his trademark ,head down, run into trouble, lose the ball routine.
This should be the end of his involvement in the senior side.

The management have to carry the can for this defeat. They were too slow to make changes and the failure to change the puck out routine also cost Cork dearly.

Fair fucks to Kilkenny, they were by far the better team on the day.

One gripe, the free-in for Donal Ogs supposed 'throw' was ajoke.

A very sad day for a great team, but we'll be back.

Rebelred
04-09-2006, 11:47 AM
Congrats to Kilkenny, they deserved to win, no doubt about that. Cork were over elaborate at times, something which they get away with against lesser oposition. Back to the drawing board, hopefully Setanta might consider coming back to replace the absolute legend that is Brian Corcoran.

Sully was a joke, cost us the goal and more, Pat Mul wasnt great I know but if Sherlock is to come back into the team next year its Sully i`d be looking at ahead of Pat Mul.
apart from the goal,sully was alright.Pat Mul had a nightmare yesterday

Langer Dan
04-09-2006, 11:50 AM
apart from the goal,sully was alright.Pat Mul had a nightmare yesterday

He should have been taken off after 20 mins. The damage was already done by the time he was called ashore.

I know its all ifs and buts now, BUT had Sherlock started that match we would have been looking at a vastly different outcome.

POL
04-09-2006, 12:00 PM
BUT had Sherlock started that match we would have been looking at a vastly different outcome.you wouldn't

Up For The Ba
04-09-2006, 12:00 PM
apart from the goal,sully was alright.Pat Mul had a nightmare yesterday

I disagree, he was pretty unconvincing throughout if you ask me. He`s been terrible under high balls all year, i dont understand whats after happening to him, 4/5 years ago he would be lapping them up, maybe its a confidence thing? A big man like him should be dominating the full back line.

Sherlock simply has to come back into the team, and maybe we should be looking at somebody like Shane O Neill or Eoin Cadogan to come in aswell, some new blood may not be a bad thing.

Langer Dan
04-09-2006, 12:03 PM
Well Brian and Pat are more than likely going to hang up the inter county boots .

Its going to be a time time of bloodletting in the Cork camp, I wont be at all surprised top see 3-4 players simply have drifted away from the cork set up by the time the league gets going.

2 out of 4, tis like the footballers in the 80's.

BlueSkies
04-09-2006, 01:21 PM
First of all, fair play to Kilkenny, they got it spot on tactically yesterday. they stopped Cork's running game and we didn't seem to have any plan B. In particular, Jerry O' Connor and Timmy didn't seem to know what to do apart from aimless solo running and ultimately losing possession, when they had opportunities to deliver the ball to the full forward line. To be very cold-blooded about it, Pat Mul and Timmy should have been replaced at half time, and Corcoran should have been switched away from full-forward.
Even though Tennyson had a fine game, I thought Niall Mac was outstanding, and Ben was very good as well. Sean Og didn't really get into the game after being belted late in the first half, and Gardiner hit 3 very poor wides at key times in the game. Overall, though, the better team won.

Star Trader
04-09-2006, 01:38 PM
Please lay off Timmy Mac ...... he gets a lot of stick & ok he is not a Henry Shefflin or a Ben OConnor but then again were it not for his display against Waterford perhaps Cork wouldnt have been in the final.I remember his introduction as a sub against Tipp a few years ago in Killarney & he changed the game with a goal & a point.

As for the insults that Ive been reading here ( one in particular very bad calling him a brainless idiot ) all I say is shame on you.Its very easy to be smart on a message board ...... its stinks of cowardice however & not what sport is all about ...... By all means say he wasnt good enough but no need for the derogatory insulting comments ........ it would seriously turn you off going to games.

PermanentMarker
04-09-2006, 02:05 PM
As for the insults that Ive been reading here ( one in particular very bad calling him a brainless idiot ) all I say is shame on you

Don't get caught up in this kind of thing. 99% of human beings couldn't even dream of having the skill players like Timmy Mac have. He is one of the weaker players on the Cork team but that doesn't make him anything the Ian Paisley's of hurling are making him out to be here.

PermanentMarker
04-09-2006, 02:12 PM
Over all Kilkenny were hungrier and sharper than Cork. Little things went wrong for Cork but they stayed in it right to the end even if they never looked like winning. When Ben put the goal in I thought to myself, if Cork win this one, a white light would appear from on high and bring them all directly to Heavan.

Kilkenny deserved it but there was only a goal in it. Had the ball in the square taken a lucky flick in the right direction for Cork in injury time things would look a lot different. Who knows.

When Cork were 6 in arrears I felt it would be crushing for the team if they lost by such a big margin and in fairness three points is feck all. That's not to say Kilkenny didn't deserve to win but sometimes sport goes that way.

Tommy Walsh and Tennyson were outstanding for Cork. To be honest I'm soprt of looking forward to some changes next year and I'm going to start a thread now to get the ball rolling.

Langer Dan
04-09-2006, 03:34 PM
Over all Kilkenny were hungrier and sharper than Cork. Little things went wrong for Cork but they stayed in it right to the end even if they never looked like winning. When Ben put the goal in I thought to myself, if Cork win this one, a white light would appear from on high and bring them all directly to Heavan.



Tommy Walsh and Tennyson were outstanding for Cork. To be honest I'm soprt of looking forward to some changes next year and I'm going to start a thread now to get the ball rolling.

Eh? Did I miss something:crazyeye:

Cork played atrociously and only lost by 3 points, Its a dissapointment because they gave such a poor account of themselves but theres another all ireland in this side.

trasnanadtonnta
04-09-2006, 04:26 PM
Was Diarmuid O Sullivan's mistake really that bad? I couldn't see it, I heard the radio 1 commentary, so I'm just curious. I thought it sounded like just one of those things, he got a hand to it, it just didn't go his way on the day. Not saying he hasn't gone off the boil a bit, because I think he has, just wondering.

Agree with whoever said personal insults should stay out of it. No call for it. If you know the man, say it to his face, if you don't, you're talking through your arse commenting on anything other than his performance on the field, so shut up.

mushypea
04-09-2006, 05:06 PM
Diarmuid bucked up and played much better in the 2nd half.

I was delighted to see Aidan Fogarty (aka Taggy) get Man of The Match. Worked hard yesterday....sound fella

BlueSkies
04-09-2006, 05:40 PM
Any idea what time the team arrive back tonight?

Rebelred
04-09-2006, 05:44 PM
Any idea what time the team arrive back tonight?
While the Cork faithful will not be there to celebrate a victorious treble, thousands are expected to show their support for a team which fought valiantly and were honourable in defeat.

The official welcome will take place at the South Mall at its junction with Parnell Place.

Traffic restrictions will be in place from 3pm with diversions and road closures from 6pm.

Parking is prohibited from 7.30am on the South Mall, from Fr Mathew Quay to Parnell Place as far as Merchants Quay and Lapps Quay.

Clamping and tow-away will be enforced rigorously.

The team is expected to arrive at Kent station at around 7pm with the parade via the Lower Glanmire Road and Brian Boru Bridge due to leave at 7.30pm.


they may have lost but nobody can deny that these lads have given their all for the last 4 years,so lets take the good with the bad and get down there to give them a great reception

Up The Rebels!

legend76
04-09-2006, 06:25 PM
Don't get caught up in this kind of thing. 99% of human beings couldn't even dream of having the skill players like Timmy Mac have. He is one of the weaker players on the Cork team but that doesn't make him anything the Ian Paisley's of hurling are making him out to be here.


i'm afraid i have to agree with Langer Dan on the "Timmy Mac" debate, in all fairness he has spent eight years in the side, and the reason everyone remembers his big moment against Tipp,is simply because it was his only moment in eight bloody years, apart of course from his points against waterford. everyone says that he runs all day for cork, and there is not doubting his commitment to the jersey, but all too often we see that white helmet that looks like a deep fat fryer going off on another brainless run. ironiclly it's that flash in the pan performance against tipp, that makes his routine banality all the more frustrating.

i do agree however with those who have said it's unacceptable to make personal insults against one of our own, and to be honest with you , i hold no personal grugde against Timmy for his serious lack of talent, the blame has to lie with the previous three managers who still put him in the team.

p.s. i am shamed to admit in my less enlightened past i used to boo when his name was called out on the team sheet, but thankfully i've seen the errors of my former ways, and these days, i just don't cheer

imagine if we had won yesterday, Timmy Mac would have had FOUR all ireland medals, i mean how farcical would that be???

megatron
05-09-2006, 12:12 AM
alright lads just home, for me despite the loss, it was one of the best weekends i'll ever had, i was involved with the cork set up for the past 2 weeks, between the bus ride into croke park, going under croke park the team dressing room before the match, at halftime and unfortunately full time.

i would personally like to thank every single person who is involved with cork, the last 4 years have been absolutely brilliant we have set a new standard of hurling, the players are fantastic for an amateur sport these lads are professionals its a credit to them, there heads are down tonight but they can keep there heads held high what they have achieved is fantastic, 4 all ireland finals, 2 all irelands winning medals 3 munster medals.

on a negative point i dont know how anyone can slate any of the players and management reading the threads i've noticed the slagging of timmy mac & pat mul,
excuse my language but who the fuck do ye think ye are slaggin them lads they burst there bollocks in training every single time and we the cork fans are supposed to cheer them not slate them things didnt go to plan on the day but we'll bounce back we've won 50 munster titles and 30 all irelands we are the most successful team in ireland and we will be back

come on the rebels and thanks for the last 4 years its been a pleasure following ye around ireland and may it continue

come on the rebels

KolaKubes
05-09-2006, 12:44 AM
Well, I agree with your points 99%. I'll hold back a wee bit because I'm thinking (presumably) that guys like Sherlock have been putting in the work all year too and not getting the rewards.

It's great to have this work ethic in the Cork team but I do wonder at times does it mean we're going for lads with the right attitude when maybe there's some lazy fucker like a hurling version of Colin Corkery who, nonetheless, could be the difference between winning and losing.

I appreciate we don't want to upset the applecart too much but I just wonder at times are they really the six most talented forwards in the county. If they are, fair enough, but it's a forward line that's been lacking a little something since Setanta left in my humble opinion.

Would Paul O'Flynn, say, get a sniff of game with Cork purely because he wouldn't quite such a dash doing his sit ups in the Examiner on the eve of an All-Ireland final?

legend76
05-09-2006, 02:48 AM
on a negative point i dont know how anyone can slate any of the players and management reading the threads i've noticed the slagging of timmy mac & pat mul,
excuse my language but who the fuck do ye think ye are slaggin them lads they burst there bollocks in training every single time and we the cork fans are supposed to cheer them not slate them



I'd never ever in a millon years doubt Timmy mac's commitment. in fact i could say with some amount of certainly that he'd almost die for the jersey. no one would question that he bursts his bollocks in training. he'd run all day for cork. and indeed the guy sitting next to me in the cusack (one day they might rename it the Donal óg) stand, made a very valid point, "in fairness Timmy does an awful lot of donkey work that no one notices"

Babs Keating infamously had to eat his words, but the sad truth is donkeys really don't win derbies. so i have to agree with Kolakubes when he questions the wisdom of just going for a guy with the right attitude? when maybe it would be more effective to pick a guy who has the right stuff.

do you go with a guy of little talent who puts in a massive effort, or a massive talent who makes it look effortless??

as for Pat Mul, i have great respect for the guy, but he was being destroyed. it's nothing personal against him, but surely Wayne sherlock should have been introduced earlier.

John Allen won huge respect last year, by maving a very brave decision and doing the unthinkable of subing the great Brian Corcoran and ronan curran,
and it worked.

i just don't think the right changes were made at the right time on sunday

Langer Dan
05-09-2006, 03:58 PM
p.s. i am shamed to admit in my less enlightened past i used to boo when his name was called out on the team sheet, ???

Jeez biy, whatever you think about the player, we dont boo our own.

Save it for the ref;)

medicus
05-09-2006, 04:48 PM
A hurling chap, name of Halpín
Was drinking a dhrop of poteen
got chopped by a hurl
Now he looks like a girl
A cat ran away with his drisheen!

A Guy called the Rock, an ould loser
by reputation a bit of a bruiser
But he dropped a right clanger
when he played like a langer
better off that he stayed at the boozer!

Langer Dan
05-09-2006, 04:51 PM
A hurling chap, name of Halpín
Was drinking a dhrop of poteen
got chopped by a hurl
Now he looks like a girl
A cat ran away with his drisheen!

A Guy called the Rock, an ould loser
by reputation a bit of a bruiser
But he dropped a right clanger
when he played like a langer
better off that he stayed at the boozer!

boo-urns

legend76
06-09-2006, 07:02 PM
Jeez biy, whatever you think about the player, we dont boo our own.

Save it for the ref;)


this is why it brings shame upon me to admit it, but as i pointed out it was in my less enlightened past. these days i just sit in silent dissaproval, in stark contrast to me sreaming my lungs out cheering for the other fourteen