liverpool v haifa

[Jim Comic]

this on telly wed night does anyone know?

[afeencalleddan]

this on telly wed night does anyone know?ITV1

[Forsberg]

this on telly wed night does anyone know?
Yup ITV1 afaik

[afeencalleddan]

It's on in the Ulster region too so no probs for Chorus users.

[Jim Comic]

huzzah!

[Jim Comic]

crap, just remembered we don't have itv1



bugger!



off to the pub i guess

[afeencalleddan]

crap, just remembered we don't have itv1



bugger!



off to the pub i guessYou can get it no probs unless all you have is an RTE aerial. Do you have sky digital Jim?

[Jim Comic]

You can get it no probs unless all you have is an RTE aerial. Do you have sky digital Jim?

yeah, think so

sky dish thingy anyways

[STEVIEG]

Yeah theres codes to get ITV i havent got em tho

[afeencalleddan]

Here (http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=11004 63&postcount=2) you go Jim.

[eric2k5]

Liverpool's aerial attacks will be effective tomorrow... ooops.

[holyfeetholyfingers]

expect liverpool to fire off an explosive campaign...

[holyfeetholyfingers]

but if they steal a goal or two the isreali side will surely launch a counterstrike of unprecedented force...this is getting way to offensive

[shammy feen]

All joking aside, Maccabi Haifa will not be easy.

I remember Chelsea played them in Europe around the turn of the century and the Israeli side beat us!

Squeeky bum time beckons I reckon...

[homer jay]

All joking aside, Maccabi Haifa will not be easy.

I remember Chelsea played them in Europe around the turn of the century and the Israeli side beat us!

Squeeky bum time beckons I reckon...

yeah i hate this game, so much depends on it. it would be a nightmare if they didn't make it thru.

[Philby]

The home leg is key. If Liverpool put their poor pre-season form behind them and hit the ground running they could make the second leg a formality. If however we struggle to turn them over it could make for a tricky 2nd leg (regardless of where it's being played).

I'd go for the following line-up:

Reina

Riise
Carragher
Hyppia
Finnan

Gerrard
Alonso
Sissoko
Pennant

Crouch
Bellamy

With Kewell, Aurelio and Gonzalez all likely to be unavailable I'd give Gerrard a run on the left of midfield (he has played there for Ingerlund). Momo & Alonso performed very well in the centre together for many games towards the end of last year so I see no immediate reason to break up that partnership esp. when Gerrard can fill in well at left mid.

[afeencalleddan]

I'd give Gerrard a run on the left of midfield.That seems crazy to me. Putting your most influential player in a position that doesn't suit him is not a good idea like when Rooney played on the flanks for United. Gerrard should be central or right but not left.

[afeencalleddan]

id imagine rafa will have gerrard, alonso and sissoko in the middle with belamy and pennant or gonzalez supporting the lanky fucker.Yeah, it could be an aul 4-2-3-1 job with Pennant and Bellamy flanking Gerrard to make up the 3 part.

[Philby]

That seems crazy to me. Putting your most influential player in a position that doesn't suit him is not a good idea like when Rooney played on the flanks for United. Gerrard should be central or right but not left.

Gerrard is more than capable of playing out on the left and influencing the play aswell as being a real danger when cutting inside. If Liverpool had 6 Gerrards they'd probably all get in our current first team.

With the so many of the options for left midfield unlikely to be available (aurelio, kewell & gonzalez) that only leaves Zenden and, while I think he's a useful squad player, I'd much prefer to see Gerrard play in a position that isn't quite ideal than see Pennant lose out for Zenden. With Zenden and Gerrard on the flanks we'd really lack width as both will tend to drift inwards.

I think it's unlikely that Gerrard will start out left but, with the current players available tonight, that would be the formation I'd go for.

[scoot on]

Here (http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=11004 63&postcount=2) you go Jim.

For the simple minded of us... What do I need to change to pick up ITV?? Is it the FEC setting I need to change? Totally lost here!

[afeencalleddan]

For the simple minded of us... What do I need to change to pick up ITV?? Is it the FEC setting I need to change? Totally lost here! Input the frequency - 10758, 22.0, V, 5/6 and then find the channels. Scroll to ITV1 and press the yellow button to store the channel, then press select. Then you'll have to find the "Extra Channels" and select to view. I'm off now so can't help anymore. Hope you can sort it.

[Jim Comic]

Reina
*
Finnan
Carragher
Hyypia
Riise
*
Gerrard
Sissoko
Alonso
Zenden
*
Pennant
Bellamy
*
Subs:
*
Dudek
Kromkamp
Garcia
Gonzalez
Crouch
Paletta
Peltier

[Jim Comic]

haifa 1up

[Jim Comic]

1-1 (bellamy)

[homer jay]

pool playing well but not getting many shots in against a poorish team. gerrard hasn't been getting much of the ball either, playing a bit too forward imo. pennant and belamy playing well tho

[Jim Comic]

2-1

Substitute Mark Gonzalez puts Liverpool into the lead.

[Jim Comic]

full-time:

liverpool 2-1 Maccabi Haifa





phew!

[eric2k5]

Gonzales is going to be a legend!

[shammy feen]

At 2-1 Liverpool will probably get through...if it had stayed 1-1 then I would have fancied the israelis...

Liverpool have the advantage of Haifa not having a home game as well...I think its being played in Cyprus...

[homer jay]

pool were a wee bit lucky. overall it wasn't a bad performance, players are still getting fit and used to a new system. haifa were poor enough. thought belamy and pennant played very well. zenden was piss poor, riise wasn't great either.

[MonTheHoops]

Great finish from Bellamy.

[Captain Planet]

At 2-1 Liverpool will probably get through...if it had stayed 1-1 then I would have fancied the israelis...

Liverpool have the advantage of Haifa not having a home game as well...I think its being played in Cyprus...
i heard its on in Kiev. Was reading this morning that Rafa is still on the hunt for a striker and that Kuyt is still on his list.

[MonTheHoops]

i heard its on in Kiev. Was reading this morning that Rafa is still on the hunt for a striker and that Kuyt is still on his list.


Is it not on in Cyprus?

[Captain Planet]

Is it not on in Cyprus?I thought it was confirmed but it seems its only a possible location so far

from skysports

Uefa have decided to play Liverpool's UEFA Champions League tie with Maccabi Haifa at a neutral venue.

The away tie with the Israeli champions had raised security fears because of the current unrest in the Middle East.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez had called on the game to be played outside Israel because of the dangers to his team and supporters.

Uefa said in a statement: "Uefa have today decided in the light of the ongoing armed conflicts in and around Israel, no European competition matches can be staged in the country until further notice.

"Uefa had already decided last week to move the first-leg matches of the Uefa Cup second qualifying round involving Israeli teams to be played outside Israel.

"Uefa has also informed the Israeli FA and its clubs they should be providing alternative venues within the territory of one of the Uefa member associations.

"The Uefa administration will continue to monitor the safety and security situation in Israel and further decisions will be made according to changes in the situation."

Ukraine has been mentioned as a possible alternative with the Dynamo Kiev president Igor Surkis claiming he had been approached by Uefa to stage the match.
Liverpool play the first leg of their third qualifying round at Anfield on Wednesday, with the return leg scheduled for August 23.

[MonTheHoops]

Kiev seems like a very odd choice. You'd think if it was a neutral ground it would be one that would suit Haifa, like Cyprus would.

[Teknique]

zenden was piss poor, riise wasn't great either.

defo , they looked about a month away from full fitness and sharpness
Its a bit worrying to be honest after seeing United and the Gooners who look to be ready for ther new season now

A slow start last season cost us , you have to start winning immediately or fall behind the rest fast

[Roman Abramovich]

i still think bellamy and pennant were the buys of the summer.
i cant rate pennant highly enough.

[Up For The Ba]

Well one thing was obvious from lawst nights performance. If Bellamy plays, Liverpool have to go 4-4-2, with an actual striker up top with him. Bellamy drifts far too wide at times, which is fine if you`ve got players willing to get into the box, which Zenden wasnt doing in the first half and which Pennant rarely did either.

On Pennant, I`d like to know how many crosses he got in last night.....i`d say it was close to 20. He did his job but there`s no use putting the balls in there if he`s not gonna have the support to finish it off.

Bellamy took his goal well but at times he ran around like a headless chicken, perhaps he was frustrated with the lack of link up play in the final third. Rafa seems to be unsure of his best formation going into the new season, which may be a little unsettling at the start.

[Roman Abramovich]

Well one thing was obvious from lawst nights performance. If Bellamy plays, Liverpool have to go 4-4-2, with an actual striker up top with him. Bellamy drifts far too wide at times, which is fine if you`ve got players willing to get into the box, which Zenden wasnt doing in the first half and which Pennant rarely did either.

On Pennant, I`d like to know how many crosses he got in last night.....i`d say it was close to 20. He did his job but there`s no use putting the balls in there if he`s not gonna have the support to finish it off.

Bellamy took his goal well but at times he ran around like a headless chicken, perhaps he was frustrated with the lack of link up play in the final third. Rafa seems to be unsure of his best formation going into the new season, which may be a little unsettling at the start.

id say pennant easily has the most crosses every year.
he needs to improve in two areas though. cutting in and scoring and better delivery when the ball is moving. he can ping a ball as good as beckham when the ball is dead or going slow, but when hes running at high speed he looses quality...

[Philby]

That seems crazy to me. Putting your most influential player in a position that doesn't suit him is not a good idea like when Rooney played on the flanks for United. Gerrard should be central or right but not left.

I missed the 1st half cos I was playing footie myself. We looked quite positive in the 2nd half, really took the game to them but perhaps lacked a bit of guile (which will come with fitness/sharpness and the assimilation of pennant, bellamy & gonzalez into the team).

I noticed that Gerrard spent a portion of the 2nd half at left-midfield (which I advocated pre-match) - no-on is saying that it's his best position but as we saw on last night's evidence it's better to play him out of position than to give Zenden a run at Pennant's expense.

Any thoughts on Sissoko's yellow? It looked very justified on first viewing but the more I watched the replay the less convinced I became. I think he got the ball initially but perhaps got penalised because it was a bit of a lunge. I think if you play sissoko you have to just allow for the fact that (for the next few years at least) he's going to miss ~4 games a year through suspension.

[Roman Abramovich]

let the yellow go for the sending off garcia should get for that superman dive.

[homer jay]

Any thoughts on Sissoko's yellow? It looked very justified on first viewing but the more I watched the replay the less convinced I became. I think he got the ball initially but perhaps got penalised because it was a bit of a lunge. I think if you play sissoko you have to just allow for the fact that (for the next few years at least) he's going to miss ~4 games a year through suspension.

maybe he got it for persistant niggly fouls, but looked harsh. there were a few tackles from both sides more deserving of a card. sissoko is gauranteed a few suspensions every season. if it was for persistant fouling boccoli shoulda got one as well.

but on the bright side, djimi was sold to charlton. :lol:

[Sound]

let the yellow go for the sending off garcia should get for that superman dive.

It was a foul and a dive.

[STEVIEG]

I saw the first twenty minutes and i Sissouko got a good few fouls in

I'm sure liverpool would have prefered to put this to bed but it could have been worse i suppose
I heard Kiev mentioned as one of the possibilites for the 2nd game which sounds a bit bizarre to me..........

[Forsberg]

I heard Kiev mentioned as one of the possibilites for the 2nd game which sounds a bit bizarre to me..........
Apparently it is 80% certain that it will be in Cyprus. Haifa officials flying in there today to set it up. At least that is what was reported before the game last night

[MonTheHoops]

I saw the first twenty minutes and i Sissouko got a good few fouls in



It prepared you for the arrival of Senna then I hope ;)

[M&M]

but on the bright side, djimi was sold to charlton. :lol:

That news made my summer...
Watching him would send anyone to an early grave!!
Got a slight feeling of deja vu watching Zenden last night, I don't think he's up to it at all.

[STEVIEG]

If he gets away with at much at Momo i'll be delighted but im not sure if he is coming to OT yet (separate thread)
Makelele is the king of the cynical foul though

[STEVIEG]

Apparently it is 80% certain that it will be in Cyprus. Haifa officials flying in there today to set it up. At least that is what was reported before the game last night


United played them there before
It sounds logical

[homer jay]

It sounds logical

thanks spock

[xvis]

does anyone know why God was in the stand and not on the pitch to face the Isrealis? ...it doesn't make any sense, I smell a conspiracy..

[Teknique]

does anyone know why God was in the stand and not on the pitch to face the Isrealis? ...it doesn't make any sense, I smell a conspiracy..

Knee injury , back training in the next 2 or 3 days
ITV interviewed him before the game - looked very trim

[xvis]

Knee injury , back training in the next 2 or 3 days
ITV interviewed him before the game - looked very trim

oh, right.

[shammy feen]

thanks spock

heh heh heh

[General Michael Collins]

Poor enough.Great goal from Gonzalez.Still pre season but Riise looked very poor.Will need to score in Cyprus to make it through.

[homer jay]

return leg to be played in kiev tomorrow week 9.35pm ko local time

[Teknique]

dose

[Jim Comic]

bizarre happenings in the ukraine....


http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0821/benitez.html

[Superdave]

bizarre happenings in the ukraine....


http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0821/benitez.html


the israeli's are really whipping this into a grudge match. which can only be bad for us. this is going to be a very tight game i reckon.

[homer jay]

bizarre happenings in the ukraine....


http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0821/benitez.html

a vid from the press conference if yis haven't seen it.

http://www.koptalk.com/detail_subtitle_list ing.php?link_id=4136&subid=2&sticky=0

[Sound]

This thing has upset written all over it. The Israelis are further into their season and look fitter. They are indignant at the game being moved. They also have an away goal. Liverpool are without old-stagers Carragher and Riise. This is particulary relevant as they defend zonally from set pieces which takes some time to learn for the new lads.

If I were Rafa I'd play:
Reina
Finnan Sami Agger Aurelio
Gerrard Momo Alonso Gonzalez
Crouch Bellamy

And even in that line up there are too many new lads for my liking, maybe Garcia could slot in instead of Gonzalez.

[homer jay]

This thing has upset written all over it. The Israelis are further into their season and look fitter. They are indignant at the game being moved. They also have an away goal. Liverpool are without old-stagers Carragher and Riise. This is particulary relevant as they defend zonally from set pieces which takes some time to learn for the new lads.

If I were Rafa I'd play:
Reina
Finnan Sami Agger Aurelio
Gerrard Momo Alonso Gonzalez
Crouch Bellamy

And even in that line up there are too many new lads for my liking, maybe Garcia could slot in instead of Gonzalez.

a good line up, but i'd be reluctant to put garcia in. they need someone to hold the ball a bit more than he does. the last thing liverpool need is their own team giving the ball to haifa encouraging wave after wave of attack. squeaky bum time for pool fans.

[The flourishin state]

i'd say your close enough to the team there maybe start crouch only with gerrard behind him and pennant on the wwing that way the mid field will be crowded and haifa will be unable to create anything

[Jim Comic]

this on telly tonight?

[homer jay]

this on telly tonight?

utv afaik

[Jim Comic]

Reina,
Finnan, Warnock, Hyypia, Agger,
Sissoko, Alonso, Gonzalez, Pennant,
Garcia, Crouch.




Subs - Dudek, Kromkamp, Gerrard, Fowler, Aurelio, Bellamy, Zenden.

[Forsberg]

Reina,
Finnan, Warnock, Hyypia, Agger,
Sissoko, Alonso, Gonzalez, Pennant,
Garcia, Crouch.




Subs - Dudek, Kromkamp, Gerrard, Fowler, Aurelio, Bellamy, Zenden.
Does Benitez think he's Ranieri or what?

[Del]

currently 1 - 1

[D number 10]

how did it finish

[Forsberg]

1-1

[Jim Comic]

1-1


liverpool win 3-2 on aggregate


not a great game but with warnock and sissoko both off injured all that matters at this point is getting through to the group stages i guess


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5266050.stm