Player Ratings

[nawfullanger]

1. Donal Og (9.5) The only reason not to give 10 is so that we can give him that in the final and round off a great year for the country's number one No.1.
2. Pat Mul (4) Standards have slipped way below last year. Is it being captain or what? Donal Og had to rescue him in the second half.
3. Sully (4) Twice the size but only half the man. Just not cutting it at the moment.
4. Brian Murphy (6) the odd shaky moment but played well overall.
5. Gardiner (7) not as all commanding as at other times but still played very well.
6. Sean Og (6.5) A shade below his half back partners but did the job.
7. Ronal Curran (9) Outstanding. I don’t what his is doing this year that he didn’t do last year but its working.
8. Tom & Gerry ( 8 ) Well on top for most of the game. Waterford gave them plenty of it in the second half but they kept at it. The best partnership in the game today.
9. Timmy (9) Credit where it’s due. Another great performance for the Croke Park specialist. He seems to play very well in tight games.
10. Niall Mc (4) Another poor game. Works hard and is all bluster but I do wonder what’s going through his head at times.
11. Niall Ronan (7) Kept at it until the legs gave out. He’s clearly not a 70 minute man but for 50 or so he really gives it all. And damn skilful to boot.
12. Ben (6) Not a great return from a player who has standards as high as he has. Still managed to contribute positively though.
13. The legend (7) maybe an 8 but he does take times outs every now and again. If we could cross him with Derval think of the athlete you’d get (though for the kid’s sake I hope it would take after the mother looks wise).
14. Joe (7) A bit up and down. Still knocks over the frees and gets out to the ball. A great contributor.
15. Naughton (9) You can’t ask for anymore. It will be interesting to see if he gets in ahead of Neil Ronan for the final.

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1. Donal Og (9.5) The only reason not to give 10 is so that we can give him that in the final and round off a great year for the country's number one No.1.
2. Pat Mul (4) Standards have slipped way below last year. Is it being captain or what? Donal Og had to rescue him in the second half.
3. Sully (4) Half the man and twice the size. Just not cutting it at the moment.
4. Brian Murphy (6) the odd shaky moment but played well overall.
5. Gardiner (7) not as all commanding as at other times but still played very well.
6. Sean Og (6.5) A shade below his half back partners but did the job.
7. Ronal Curran (9) Outstanding. I don’t what his is doing this year that he didn’t do last year but its working.
8. Tom & Gerry ( 8 ) Well on top for most of the game. Waterford gave them plenty of it in the second half but they kept at it. The best partnership in the game today.
9. Timmy (9) Credit where it’s due. Another great performance for the Croke Park specialist. He seems to play very well in tight games.
10. Niall Mc (4) Another poor game. Works hard and is all bluster but I do wonder what’s going through his head at times.
11. Niall Ronan (7) Kept at it until the legs gave out. He’s clearly not a 70 minute man but for 50 or so he really gives it all. And damn skilful to boot.
12. Ben (6) Not a great return from a player who has standards as high as he has. Still managed to contribute positively though.
13. The legend (7) maybe an 8 but he does take times outs every now and again. If we could cross him with Derval think of the athlete you’d get (though for the kid’s sake I hope it would take after the mother looks wise).
14. Joe (7) A bit up and down. Still knocks over the frees and gets out to the ball. A great contributor.
15. Naughton (9) You can’t ask for anymore. It will be interesting to see if he gets in ahead of Neil Ronan for the final.

If they are your own then that's gold about Sully!

[nawfullanger]

If they are your own then that's gold about Sully!

all my own work. im the only one here on a bank holiday so im putting it to good use.

[emurf]

I can't see why you gave Curran a 9 and Deano a 7 and only give Pat Mul a 4.
Curran caught great balls when it counted at the end but IMO had a quiet enough game for most of it.
Deane was poor yesterday IMO. OK he score his frees but if he missed them he should be shot.I felt his reactions were very slow he seemed to be second to every ball.
Yesterday was Pat Mulcahy's best game all year he cleared some great balls and had to tidy up for Sully all day.

[nawfullanger]

I can't see why you gave Curran a 9 and Deano a 7 and only give Pat Mul a 4.
Curran caught great balls when it counted at the end but IMO had a quiet enough game for most of it.
Deane was poor yesterday IMO. OK he score his frees but if he missed them he should be shot.I felt his reactions were very slow he seemed to be second to every ball.
Yesterday was Pat Mulcahy's best game all year he cleared some great balls and had to tidy up for Sully all day.

i thought Curran was great when he had to be. I wouldnt disagree with you on Joe in one sense but when he gets the ball he stil is dangerous and he kept following up to be in postion to make that pass for the goal.
Pat Mul IMO is just not as assured as last year. and looking at the telly Donal Og really let him have it at one stage in teh second half.

[BangorFeen]

I can't see why you gave Curran a 9 and Deano a 7 and only give Pat Mul a 4.
Curran caught great balls when it counted at the end but IMO had a quiet enough game for most of it.
Deane was poor yesterday IMO. OK he score his frees but if he missed them he should be shot.I felt his reactions were very slow he seemed to be second to every ball.
Yesterday was Pat Mulcahy's best game all year he cleared some great balls and had to tidy up for Sully all day.
emurf. I think 4 is a bit harsh on Niall Mac, 5 or 6 would be more appropriate, he worked and worked and won no amount of ball but as usual, his shooting left him down. He seemed to suffer dispproportinately in the conditions too. We've seen Deane fade out of games before, it happens with him. That said, he'll always slot the frees for you and a player like that is valuable beyond measure even if that were to be the sum total of his contributions (which it wasn't). Look at how Waterford missed Bennett yesterday. I reckon Waterford learned from the Limerick game too, the Cork back three are not comfortable with balls being rained down on them. It could well see us unstuck against a physical side like Clare (were they to win.)

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Harsh on Sean Og surely? Keeping Shanahan quiet is no mean feat.

[BangorFeen]

Harsh on Sean Og surely? Keeping Shanahan quiet is no mean feat.
He kept Shanahan quiet on the scoreboard but the amount of times Shanahan set Mullane and McGrath free (IIRC) was fairly high. First half though he had him completely in his pocket (bar that ludicrous sideline cut...). On balance? Yeah, I reckon 6.5 is harsh, but maybe 7 wouldn't be?

[stevetharlear]

1. Donal Og (9.5) The only reason not to give 10 is so that we can give him that in the final and round off a great year for the country's number one No.1.
2. Pat Mul (4) Standards have slipped way below last year. Is it being captain or what? Donal Og had to rescue him in the second half.
3. Sully (4) Twice the size but only half the man. Just not cutting it at the moment.
4. Brian Murphy (6) the odd shaky moment but played well overall.
5. Gardiner (7) not as all commanding as at other times but still played very well.
6. Sean Og (6.5) A shade below his half back partners but did the job.
7. Ronal Curran (9) Outstanding. I don’t what his is doing this year that he didn’t do last year but its working.
8. Tom & Gerry ( 8 ) Well on top for most of the game. Waterford gave them plenty of it in the second half but they kept at it. The best partnership in the game today.
9. Timmy (9) Credit where it’s due. Another great performance for the Croke Park specialist. He seems to play very well in tight games.
10. Niall Mc (4) Another poor game. Works hard and is all bluster but I do wonder what’s going through his head at times.
11. Niall Ronan (7) Kept at it until the legs gave out. He’s clearly not a 70 minute man but for 50 or so he really gives it all. And damn skilful to boot.
12. Ben (6) Not a great return from a player who has standards as high as he has. Still managed to contribute positively though.
13. The legend (7) maybe an 8 but he does take times outs every now and again. If we could cross him with Derval think of the athlete you’d get (though for the kid’s sake I hope it would take after the mother looks wise).
14. Joe (7) A bit up and down. Still knocks over the frees and gets out to the ball. A great contributor.
15. Naughton (9) You can’t ask for anymore. It will be interesting to see if he gets in ahead of Neil Ronan for the final.
You had me til you said this, any kid to look like Derval... yuck like.

[Sorriedarelike]

10 from 20 for the fullback line is troubling - heard it on radio - seemed Sully broke alot of ball - was that not the idea, stop Wa'ford from high fielding around the goal?

Was Ben O' C fit or out of sorts somehow? see below

Besides the line ball, Sean Og O H sounded like an 8.

Deane can fade but he laid on the goal and knocked over points at the edge of his distance - funny that Ben gave over to Deane - any thought that he was ill (not just less than 100% fit)?

[stevetharlear]

10 from 20 for the fullback line is troubling - heard it on radio - seemed Sully broke alot of ball - was that not the idea, stop Wa'ford from high fielding around the goal?

Was Ben O' C fit or out of sorts somehow? see below

Besides the line ball, Sean Og O H sounded like an 8.

Deane can fade but he laid on the goal and knocked over points at the edge of his distance - funny that Ben gave over to Deane - any thought that he was ill (not just less than 100% fit)?
Don't know if ben was unfit but he chased down a waterford defender there at one point and it was as good as we've seen him move in a long time. It was his speed we were worried about, his general fitness should be sound as he's supposed to be v. hard working and the hurling will always be there.
Don't think we've too much to worry about, I'd put it down to a bad day... which would be a good day by most other forwards standards.

[Sorriedarelike]

very anxious going into yesterday but calm today - suppose nerves could be back but am sensing that pressure is off Cork and they'll turn it on in final

[nawfullanger]

to my eyes ben is less than 100%. there are all manner of rumours but they cant be true because if there were he should get a nobel prize for medicine. hes a class hurler and thats basically whats taking him through.

pat mull and diarmuid o'sullivan have been steached a number of times this year. they always seem to pull through to give them their due but still...they have dropped a notch or two. i think sean og has dropped a smigen too. but not so much that its worrying. he is a very fine athleate and he manages to get out of trouble most of the time. the line ball thing to my mind was one of those things that could happe any player at any time. the lucky thing was that it didnt end up in the net. but when luck is with with you take full advantage.

[Rebelred]

would agree with most of the original ratings.Very unlike Sean Og to miss the sideline yesterday and we were lucky shanahan didnt try to lob Donal Og because he could well have done so.By his own high standards he's probably a bit below form this year, luckily Curran is a different player from last year and Gardiner is as consistent as ever
Thought Mulcahy did better than that rating though, cleared some important balls as the second half wore on.The worry is Sully in the middle

Special mention must go to God in the no.14 jersey. When the ball was down by the corner after the free, with time up and waterford desperate to grab possession, Corcoran was down in the thick of it, bursting through bodies to get that sliothar out of there... the legend grows!

[Lamps]

would also agree with most of those ratings, and although i would have given sully and mul six's, they still didn't inspire me with great condidence.
I think you were harsh on sean og, shanahan had been going through on of his hot streak and he totally shut him down. I thought it was his best performance since he totally smothered shefflin in 2004. His job was to take out their dangerman and he did it. I would give him an 8.
Likewise Niall Mac came out on top versus Ken McGrath. His distribution was poor, and a lot of this can be put down to the surface, but McGrath wasn't the inspiration he usually is and this can be put down to the cork no 11. it was his best game of the season. McGrath is their talisman and keeping him restricted to mainly a free taking role was a huge plus for cork. I would give Niall Mac 7.5.
He's 2-all now with Ken Mcgrath in head to head's and I'm sure McGrath would admit he's his toughest opponent

[Redshirter]

Joe Deane played very poorly on Sunday not his usualself in the Game

[nawfullanger]

Joe Deane played very poorly on Sunday not his usualself in the Game

i know but he still gets those frees works hard to get the ball. and he was a major contributor to getting the goal. first by being out the field to win the ball and then being up with the play to make the last pass. its not that he was poor per se but that we have come to expect such high standards from him.

[Redshirter]

i know but he still gets those frees works hard to get the ball. and he was a major contributor to getting the goal. first by being out the field to win the ball and then being up with the play to make the last pass. its not that he was poor per se but that we have come to expect such high standards from him.

Still not the same Joe Deane that we used to know in the past

[nawfullanger]

Still not the same Joe Deane that we used to know in the past


he did it against clare earlier in teh year. one of the things about this team is that a different forward seems to play well every day.

[PabloDollbox]

Interesting points about Mulcahy and O' Sullivan there. Wayne Sherlock will be wondering what he needs to do to get a run in the team. Hes been flying in training and the two lads have been stumbling through the season. Looks like hes never gonna get back in. Dont expect to see him return to the panel next season from what I've heard.

[Up The Rebels]

Wayne Sherlock has got no chance of starting the Final he should have been given a game or two earlier and see how played ...Will he be a sub for the Final