Lippi to Utd

[Sound]

Manchester is alive with this at the mo. Bookies suspending betting and all. Probably bollocks but would it really surprise anyone?

Apart from Lippi's inability to speak English of course!

[Eoin]

Didn't stop Ranieri at chelsea. He picked it up handy enough.

[EDDIEB]

Manchester is alive with this at the mo. Bookies suspending betting and all. Probably bollocks but would it really surprise anyone?

Apart from Lippi's inability to speak English of course!


Our Wayne can't speak English.
Outside chance probably bollox and bringing Pirlo & Gatusso with him ?

[FL4ZGN]

Manchester is alive with this at the mo. Bookies suspending betting and all. Probably bollocks but would it really surprise anyone?

Apart from Lippi's inability to speak English of course!


Sure Ferguson cant speak English.

In fairness though it could explain why they have been so quiet in the transfer market this summer.

At 58 though i wonder is he too old.

Would be great to get him as his track record speaks for itself.
Could also persuade some of the Italian players to follow suit.

[Sound]

You'd get the likes of Heinze etc staying on I reckon. T'would refresh Uts and the PL to a certain extent.

[Sound]

Lippi is either on or just got off flight to London.

[diamond_dog]

I heard Lippi was retiring from football. To be honest i would be very suprised if they got rid of Ferguson and replaced him with an older manager. What would be the point? The whole reason for getting rid of Ferguson is that he is 'past it'

[FL4ZGN]

I heard Lippi was retiring from football. To be honest i would be very suprised if they got rid of Ferguson and replaced him with an older manager. What would be the point? The whole reason for getting rid of Ferguson is that he is 'past it'


Lippi is about 8 years younger.

Ferguson won the treble at Lippi's age.

[FL4ZGN]

Sound what is the source of this?

[Sound]

Sky have sent a half dozen reporters to the Baglioni hotel which is where Lippi is headed and reserved on an account used by someone connected with Glazer. I'm not sure if this backs up the story or is part of how the story started. Either way, Sky are treating this as for real.

[FL4ZGN]

Sky have sent a half dozen reporters to the Baglioni hotel which is where Lippi is headed and reserved on an account used by someone connected with Glazer. I'm not sure if this backs up the story or is part of how the story started. Either way, Sky are treating this as for real.


I phoned the brother in Manchester earlier and he has heard nothing. I could see nothing on SSN either.

You got some inside info or is this a WUM?

[storysham]

Wasnt kleberson the last world cup winner we got.

[FL4ZGN]

Now that Fergie is on a plane to South Africa the timing makes it appear insidious.

[STEVIEG]

Now that Fergie is on a plane to South Africa the timing makes it appear insidious.


Friday?

[Sound]

Fergie will become GM or somesuch. He's given his ok for Lippi. Sky are still only running with the 'rumours' talk for now and won't be updating it until it's confirmed.
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=402478&CPID=219&clid=119&lid=4161&ti tle=Lippi+resigns+fr om+Azzurri+post

"Lippi, who has since been linked with a role at Premiership giants Manchester United, believed the time was right to walk away from his country's national team. "

[POL]

wonderful wumming

[STEVIEG]

I don't see this happening at all myself

I'm more concerned about players anyway

[Sound]

Sky Italy (no link - it's via sky italy stringers) are saying that Lippi is in 'management talk' with a club 'outside Italy'.

[KolaKubes]

Ah, think Fergie's lost a certain amount of his gravitas with the younger lads. Like the idea of him staying on in a GM role. He's good on club structures but a new face in the dressing room isn't a bad idea especially if he can draw in a few top players to play for him at Utd.

Incidentally, depending on the severity of the relegations meted out, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few Juve/Milan players to filter out around Europe on loan rather than being sold at a cut price.

As I've said, Utd have some very talented youngsters in centre mid but they'll need a year or two to develop. A couple of quality loan signings might be ideal.

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Ronaldo waiting on the Lippi deal-
"I have no reason to leave the club, they have always supported me, they always gave me guarantees of being able to evolve as a player," he added.
"There is still nothing concrete. During this week I believe the issue will be resolved. "If it's a question of staying there it will be fine, if I leave it will also be fine. It is still a question that has to be decided, I have four days to resolve it."

[FL4ZGN]

Ronaldo waiting on the Lippi deal-
"I have no reason to leave the club, they have always supported me, they always gave me guarantees of being able to evolve as a player," he added.
"There is still nothing concrete. During this week I believe the issue will be resolved. "If it's a question of staying there it will be fine, if I leave it will also be fine. It is still a question that has to be decided, I have four days to resolve it."


WUM extroardinare.

Does the term "clutching at straws" mean anything to you?

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WUM extroardinare.

Does the term "clutching at straws" mean anything to you?

Tsk, tsk.

You're very cynical.

[FL4ZGN]

Tsk, tsk.

You're very cynical.


We all know that Lippi is going to Sunderland.

[Sound]

Heinze has now had a change of heart and is set to stay. I wonder what triggered that then..

[FL4ZGN]

Heinze has now had a change of heart and is set to stay. I wonder what triggered that then..


Not sure but it has been reported in Spain that Ruud has all but agreed personal terms with Real and would prefer them over Bayern.

Wonder what triggered that..

[STEVIEG]

Heinze has now had a change of heart and is set to stay. I wonder what triggered that then..


Change of heart?
I presume this is a joke!

He came out with a statement saying that United stood by him when he was injured and he will play for United as long as they wish
Just because some agent or newspaper links him to a move it doesn't mean he was involved.
PS
Respect to Gabby Heinze

[Sound]

Change of heart?
I presume this is a joke!

He came out with a statement saying that United stood by him when he was injured and he will play for United as long as they wish
Just because some agent or newspaper links him to a move it doesn't mean he was involved.
PS
Respect to Gabby Heinze

Absolutely. That's the change of heart. He was reported as wanting to leave after the WC. Now he doesn't.

[STEVIEG]

Absolutely. That's the change of heart. He was reported as wanting to leave after the WC. Now he doesn't.


So because he was "reported" as wanting to go that means he had a "change of heart"
The quotes today are the first ones from his mouth
I'll repeat them if ya want

[Sound]

So because he was "reported" as wanting to go that means he had a "change of heart"
The quotes today are the first ones from his mouth
I'll repeat them if ya want


You mean you'll go looking in the transfers thread where I posted them two hours ago?

Super.

[STEVIEG]

You mean you'll go looking in the transfers thread where I posted them two hours ago?

Super.


Where did ya get the change of heart bit from though?

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The Lippi appointment won't be confirmed by Sky until after the verdict in the match fixing trial which is due tomorrow after 4pm.

[STEVIEG]

Fair enough but even if all that is true about Lippi, there is no record whatsoever of any truth being attached to the story that Heinze

1-wanted to leave
or
2-had a change of heart

From the quotes which i read earlier it seems clear he wanted to stay anyway

The Lippi story is interesting if true (though as i say i can't really see it myself, but could certainly see the logic of it for all parties)

[Rebelred]

Heinze has now had a change of heart and is set to stay. I wonder what triggered that then..
considering the sun "created" a story about him going to madrid with no quotes, no evidence and not even the mandatory "A source close to the player" line means that Heinze was never going anywhere and this was just lazy journalism... but it was in the sun, therefore, it must be true

[Sound]

considering the sun "created" a story about him going to madrid with no quotes, no evidence and not even the mandatory "A source close to the player" line means that Heinze was never going anywhere and this was just lazy journalism... but it was in the sun, therefore, it must be true

Is that 'The Sun', 'The Irish Sun' or the 'Super Soaraway Sun?

Enquiring minds need to know.

[POL]

playing a blinder

[leeland]

This is a cracker. United cannot afford to pay Ferguson as well as Lippi, they are cutting costs left, right and centre, hence loaning out every player they can and cutting back on reserve teams etc. They can't afford to buy a striker until they sell Ruud so they are hardly going to go out and get another manager. Why would Lippi go there? no money to spend and a team falling further and further behind, christ sake even the scousers are better now

[STEVIEG]

This is a cracker. United cannot afford to pay Ferguson as well as Lippi, they are cutting costs left, right and centre, hence loaning out every player they can and cutting back on reserve teams etc. They can't afford to buy a striker until they sell Ruud so they are hardly going to go out and get another manager. Why would Lippi go there? no money to spend and a team falling further and further behind, christ sake even the scousers are better now


Some good points











And some not so good

Rank Team Pld. Pts.
1 Chelsea 38 91
2 Manchester United 38 83
3 Liverpool 38 82

[Sound]

This is a cracker. United cannot afford to pay Ferguson as well as Lippi, they are cutting costs left, right and centre, hence loaning out every player they can and cutting back on reserve teams etc. They can't afford to buy a striker until they sell Ruud so they are hardly going to go out and get another manager. Why would Lippi go there? no money to spend and a team falling further and further behind, christ sake even the scousers are better now

Fergie's wages are a moot point. Cutting costs by spunking £15M last January? Ronaldo can be sold for crazy money, Ruud less so but not a pittance they'll get a few chumps like Fortune off the books and there is the money from Mikel. Lippi inherits a team just off the pace and, as ex Juve manager, can ship in the Trezegeut's of the world on loan- Ruud problem solved with cash to spare. That leaves £30M for central midfield.

The only thing that did stand in his way was the language barrier.

[homer jay]

Some good points











And some not so good

Rank Team Pld. Pts.
1 Chelsea 38 91
2 Manchester United 38 83
3 Liverpool 38 82

its still relatively early in the summer but...

LIVERPOOL

INS
Craig Bellamy: 26-year-old Welsh international striker joins from Blackburn in a £6m deal, signing a four-year contract.
Gabriel Paletta: 20-year-old Argentine Under-21 defender signs for £2m from Banfield and signs a four-year contract.
Mark Gonzalez: 23-year-old Chilean signed for Liverpool last summer, but he has finally been granted a work permit a year later.
Fabio Aurelio: 26-year-old Brazilian left-back joins on a free transfer from Valencia.

OUTS
Fernando Morientes: 30-year-old Spanish striker has left the club and signed for Valencia after a poor 18 months in which he made around 40 appearances for Liverpool but scored only 12 goals. He cost Liverpool £6.3 million and has returned to his home country for approximately half that fee.
Zak Whitbread: 22-year-old defender has signed on a free for Millwall after a successful loan spell for the Lions last season.
David Raven: 21-year-old defender signs for Carlisle on a free transfer after a successful loan spell at Tranmere last season.
Bruno Cheyrou: 28-year-old Frenchman - nicknamed the 'new Zinedine Zidane' - joins Rennes for an undisclosed fee four years after joining for £3.7m.
Ramon Calliste: 20-year-old Welsh Under-21 international striker joins Scunthorpe after a year at Liverpool in which he failed to make a senior appearance.
Dietmar Hamann: 32-year-old former German international released to join Manchester City on a two-year deal.
Chris Kirkland: 25-year-old glass goalkeeper loaned to Wigan for six almost certainly injury-plagued months.
Djibril Cisse: 24-year-old French international joins Marseille on loan for a season with a view to a permanent switch.

MANCHESTER UNITED

INS

OUTS
Tim Howard: 26-year-old US international 'keeper joins Everton on a season-long loan after losing his place to Edwin van der Sar.
Phil Picken: 20-year-old English defender joins Chesterfield on a free transfer after a season-long loan with the Spireites. He failed to make a single appearance for ManYoo.
Tommy Lee: 20-year-old goalkeeper joins Macclesfield Town after a four-month successful loan spell.
Jonathan Spector: 20-year-old defender has been sold to West Ham for around £500,000. He has failed to break into the Manchester United team and has had a successful loan spell at Charlton.
Eddie Johnson: 21-year-old striker has joined Bradford City on a free transfer after a loan spell at Crewe last season.
Quinton Fortune: 28-year-old South African utility man released after seven years with the Old Trafford club.

and possibly rvn and c ronaldo to go too. utd squad looking very sparse

[STEVIEG]

When they start finishing ahead of Man United they will be better
Scholes, Ole, Heinze and some signings are to come
Chelsea and Liverpool have done good business early but United will take the field with a good eleven next month, of that i'm sure

[leeland]

Ole is a busted flush unfortunately, he's never going to really get back. There's a whiff of Pool early 90s about United right now. Squad gets weaker very year

[leeland]

At the moment O'Shea and Fletcher will be in central midfield, that's a joke for starters

[STEVIEG]

The season hasn't started
That midfield will be changed
If not, then i take your point, but the club, the manager and everyone involved has stated that they are about to buy some midfielders
Anyway, we'll see

[xvis]

its still relatively early in the summer but...

LIVERPOOL

INS
Craig Bellamy: 26-year-old Welsh international striker joins from Blackburn in a £6m deal, signing a four-year contract.
Gabriel Paletta: 20-year-old Argentine Under-21 defender signs for £2m from Banfield and signs a four-year contract.
Mark Gonzalez: 23-year-old Chilean signed for Liverpool last summer, but he has finally been granted a work permit a year later.
Fabio Aurelio: 26-year-old Brazilian left-back joins on a free transfer from Valencia.

OUTS
Fernando Morientes: 30-year-old Spanish striker has left the club and signed for Valencia after a poor 18 months in which he made around 40 appearances for Liverpool but scored only 12 goals. He cost Liverpool £6.3 million and has returned to his home country for approximately half that fee.
Zak Whitbread: 22-year-old defender has signed on a free for Millwall after a successful loan spell for the Lions last season.
David Raven: 21-year-old defender signs for Carlisle on a free transfer after a successful loan spell at Tranmere last season.
Bruno Cheyrou: 28-year-old Frenchman - nicknamed the 'new Zinedine Zidane' - joins Rennes for an undisclosed fee four years after joining for £3.7m.
Ramon Calliste: 20-year-old Welsh Under-21 international striker joins Scunthorpe after a year at Liverpool in which he failed to make a senior appearance.
Dietmar Hamann: 32-year-old former German international released to join Manchester City on a two-year deal.
Chris Kirkland: 25-year-old glass goalkeeper loaned to Wigan for six almost certainly injury-plagued months.
Djibril Cisse: 24-year-old French international joins Marseille on loan for a season with a view to a permanent switch.

MANCHESTER UNITED

INS

OUTS
Tim Howard: 26-year-old US international 'keeper joins Everton on a season-long loan after losing his place to Edwin van der Sar.
Phil Picken: 20-year-old English defender joins Chesterfield on a free transfer after a season-long loan with the Spireites. He failed to make a single appearance for ManYoo.
Tommy Lee: 20-year-old goalkeeper joins Macclesfield Town after a four-month successful loan spell.
Jonathan Spector: 20-year-old defender has been sold to West Ham for around £500,000. He has failed to break into the Manchester United team and has had a successful loan spell at Charlton.
Eddie Johnson: 21-year-old striker has joined Bradford City on a free transfer after a loan spell at Crewe last season.
Quinton Fortune: 28-year-old South African utility man released after seven years with the Old Trafford club.

and possibly rvn and c ronaldo to go too. utd squad looking very sparse

don't see much to solve Liverpools goalscoring problems there.

...and the mighty contributions of Morientes and Cisse have departed from last years squad.

[Rebelred]

At the moment O'Shea and Fletcher will be in central midfield, that's a joke for starters
how do you figure that out? scholes going to be a sub is he?

[homer jay]

don't see much to solve Liverpools goalscoring problems there.

...and the mighty contributions of Morientes and Cisse have departed from last years squad.

yeah i know, i hate to say it but liverpool need a consistant striker like rvn was. fowler is good, but not up to the level thats needed. bellamy, the jury is still out on for me.

was just making the point that its a one way door at utd at the minute.

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The Currant Bun catching up with me and my sources. I dont know if that's a good thing.

MARCELLO LIPPI has moved a step closer to Old Trafford — by taking intensive English lessons.


The Italy boss, who quit this week after winning the World Cup on Sunday, wants to learn the lingo so he can manage in the Premiership.

Lippi, 58, tried to play down SunSport’s exclusive earlier this month that he is being lined up to replace boss Alex Ferguson at Manchester United.

At the time, he said: “How can you work in a place where you don’t even know the language?”

But sources close to the ex-Juventus chief say he has decided to enrol on an English course at a top Milan language school. A pal said: “Lippi is 70 per cent sure he’s coming to the English Premiership.

“If Manchester United offer him a deal, he’ll take it. At the moment, he doesn’t speak a word of English and is worried it might count against him.

“But he is arranging to go on an intensive English course to get a better grasp of the language.

“The Italian Football Federation hopes he might change his mind but Lippi won’t come back. He wants club coaching.”

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BUMP. This is still happening pending some red tape.

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Update. The appeal has to be heard before Lippi is installed. Fergie also wants to be in the country when it's anounced.

[Philby]

You reckon this will happen? I can't see them working side-by-side successfully myself. I would've thought that they'd have learned from the Evans/Houllier fiasco. If united are eyeing up a management change they should get Fergie out of the club altogether (having him hanging around in any other capacity would be a foolish move and would put unnecessary pressure on his successor)

[Sound]

You reckon this will happen? I can't see them working side-by-side successfully myself. I would've thought that they'd have learned from the Evans/Houllier fiasco. If united are eyeing up a management change they should get Fergie out of the club altogether (having him hanging around in any other capacity would be a foolish move and would put unnecessary pressure on his successor)

It's a sop of a move to save face for Fergie. The Galzers also dont want to be hoisted on their pittard by the customers. It suits both parties. He will have nothing to do with the day to day running of the club

[homer jay]

Lippi, who stepped down after guiding the Azzurri to glory in Germany this summer, said: "I have received so many proposals from abroad, but I really would like to coach in Spain.

"It (Primera Liga) is a competition that I really like."

The former Juventus boss was linked earlier this summer with a move to Manchester United, while Internazionale and Sampdoria are thought to be keen to acquire his services.

"I haven't received any offers from Italy," said the 58-year-old, who will take his time to decide.

"I have no intention of returning in the next few months."

stick to the day job Sound, predicting ain't your thing

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stick to the day job Sound, predicting ain't your thing

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[homer jay]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

heh heh heh whoosh indeed

[POL]

hehe, how many morons got sucked into this one? this is wHy some of ye will neven dine at the top table of the SFI

[Sound]

hehe, how many morons got sucked into this one? this is wHy some of ye will neven dine at the top table of the SFI

Is there anything more satisfying than the long con? I was getting PM's from anxious Rowdies fans.

Job.