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starchaser
20-06-2006, 09:37 PM
England 1-0 up

Joe Cole. not a bad goal at all - struck from outside the penalty box.


Owen went off earlier - injury - replaced by "dancing robot" Crouch.

Langer Dan
20-06-2006, 09:46 PM
1-0 ht, shit game

Langer Dan
20-06-2006, 10:06 PM
1-1 YEEssss

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:07 PM
1-1 Sweden.

agreed. shite game. which is why i'm on here, just glancing at it from time to time.

Langer Dan
20-06-2006, 10:11 PM
Larsson hits the crossbar,

England expects, heh heh heh.

Jim Comic
20-06-2006, 10:14 PM
c'mon sweden!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

MinXy
20-06-2006, 10:27 PM
Haha see Rooney getting all stroppy!

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:30 PM
my money is still on Spain v Argentina in the final.

there's something not quite there with this england team. there's just not the "spark" that you see - such as Torres in the Spanish team. he's incredible.

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:32 PM
c'mon sweden!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

ah leave off. i know yer secretly rooting for them like.

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:35 PM
christ. boring game. its like watching paint dry.


when is spain playing again?

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:41 PM
2-1 to England

Gerrard

damn good header.


winner of group (england) plays ecuador, runner up (sweden) plays germany.

if sweden win , it'll obviously be reversed.

FL4ZGN
20-06-2006, 10:44 PM
come on england

afeencalleddan
20-06-2006, 10:45 PM
They'll be under serious illusions now in England. Very poor performance again and a laughable managerial performance again by Eriksson despite the apparent "inspired" substitution.:lol:

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:46 PM
2-2 sweden

england really fucked up the defense big time.

MinXy
20-06-2006, 10:46 PM
Equaliser!

Jim Comic
20-06-2006, 10:46 PM
good ole henrik!

afeencalleddan
20-06-2006, 10:46 PM
Yeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh , stick that up yer bollocks'!

MinXy
20-06-2006, 10:47 PM
Damn you starchaser.

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:47 PM
They'll be under serious illusions now in England. Very poor performance again and a laughable managerial performance again by Eriksson despite the apparent "inspired" substitution.:lol:

just compare them to Spain or Argentina.

piss poor performance so far - and not world beating either.

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:48 PM
Damn you starchaser.

ahh sure, the other half is English. st george cross territory here like - its the law.. :-)

Jim Comic
20-06-2006, 10:50 PM
ft: 2-2

The Douglas Cowboys
20-06-2006, 10:50 PM
Rebels for munster on sunday!!

afeencalleddan
20-06-2006, 10:50 PM
just compare them to Spain or Argentina.What comparison?:lol!: Come on Ecuador!

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:50 PM
final whistle 2-2

england play ecuador
sweden play germany

my bet - ecuador will hammer england.

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:52 PM
What comparison?:lol!: Come on Ecuador!

fuck all - i grant you that.

bbwwwaahh - we're more up to date than yahoo sports:

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/world-cup-2006/index.html

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:54 PM
if you want up to date scores, come to the PROC


http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/world-cup-2006/england/index.html

bwwwwaaaahhhh!!!!!

starchaser
20-06-2006, 10:56 PM
paraguay v trinidad - 2-0 to paraguay.

1st goal was an OG

Jim Comic
20-06-2006, 10:57 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5100516.stm

Jim Comic
20-06-2006, 10:58 PM
my bet - ecuador will hammer england.


one certainly hopes so!

starchaser
20-06-2006, 11:12 PM
one certainly hopes so!

rio ferdinand is injured as well , according to ITV.
not looking good like.


however - England will be up against Ecuador - who qualified for the world cup for the first time ever in the 2002 finals.

England were very lucky they werent beaten by Trinidad (all those near misses - i counted about 3 or 4)... Ecuador could be their nemisis. they've got the drive and energy and "Ireland 1990" kinda spirit like.

it would have been better for them to have faced Germany - at least the Germans are more predictable like.

afeencalleddan
20-06-2006, 11:16 PM
England will be up against Ecuador - who qualified for the world cup for the first time ever in the 2002 finals.Pedigree and reputation count for nothing. If Sven was aware of that he might have a chance but no doubt the egos will still be in the team against Ecuador. If he had any balls he'd play Lennon and either Carrick or Hargreaves instead of Beckham and Lampard.

starchaser
20-06-2006, 11:24 PM
Pedigree and reputation count for nothing. If Sven was aware of that he might have a chance but no doubt the egos will still be in the team against Ecuador. If he had any balls he'd play Lennon and either Carrick or Hargreaves instead of Beckham and Lampard.


yeah - lennon was good. very good alright.

but england do have a serious ego problem - have a read of this:

http://football.guardian.co .uk/worldcup2006/comment/story/0,,1799631,00.html

As the England squad made their way to a final training session in Nuremberg on the eve of their match against Trinidad & Tobago, their coach was escorted by eight police motorcycle outsiders, six police cars and one helicopter. At each road junction a couple of policemen held up the traffic for a full five minutes before the coach passed through, creating a cacophony of horn-blowing from irritated motorists whose lawful progress had been delayed by the transportation of what currently appears to be the most overrated and underperforming team at this World Cup.

That is the sort of bubble in which the England party exists. Goodness knows how much the Football Association has spent on providing the ultimate in de luxe quarters, transportation and security for the 23 players, the platoon of wives and girlfriends, and the battalion of support staff. The media, too, are the grateful beneficiaries of the FA's lavish attention to detail, welcomed each day to a vast purpose-built centre next to the training pitch and featuring air conditioning, wireless internet access, TV screens, comfortable sofas and a plentiful supply of excellent food.

The contrast with other nations is extreme. At Argentina's hotel, for instance, the daily press conferences are conducted in a medium-size room equipped with three trestle tables and a dozen or so bottles of mineral water.

Their coach, when it arrives from training, is accompanied by one police motorcyclist and one police car. You would never know that Argentina have won the World Cup twice to England's once and are rather more likely, on current form, to win it again.


therein lies the problem.

Sound
21-06-2006, 10:30 AM
I thought they were better than they have been in the two previous games. Hargreaves did a manful job and the midfield didn't look as disjointed. The Owen injury affected the England performance imo. They've sent for Defoe apparently but he's been on holiday rather than on standby so God only knows how fit he is. Cole scored an absolute peach that will be hard to top from an individual point of view and Rooney was great for the amount of time he was on.

Now for the bad news. Did anyone see Beckham or Lampard? Yet Sven will still drop Hargreaves and put the two lads together again when it's plain to anyone that Frank should be dropped. Now that his shooting has gone to shit his most effective weapon is gone. But Stevie is scoring and on form.

I never thought I'd say that they need Rio back but Sol is clapped out and turns like an oil tanker.

Captain Planet
21-06-2006, 10:37 AM
Ecuador are gonna prove tough opposition for england id say. Gerrard needs to teach crouch how to header the ball properly and i bet sven is kicking himself he brought theo now. they wont go further than the quarter finals anyway.

Decent 1st half performance, but 2nd half was brutal. Still though it was funny to see sweden keep their unbeaten record against england since '68 intact.

jungle
21-06-2006, 11:09 AM
Ecuador are gonna prove tough opposition for england id say. Gerrard needs to teach crouch how to header the ball properly and i bet sven is kicking himself he brought theo now. they wont go further than the quarter finals anyway.

Decent 1st half performance, but 2nd half was brutal. Still though it was funny to see sweden keep their unbeaten record against england since '68 intact.
Assuming they beat Ecuador, they are likely to be playing one of Holland, Mexico or Portugal. The current Dutch team is quite young and is really a team for the 2010 World Cup with a few experienced heads thrown in. There's no reason that England wouldn't get a result in that match.

Actin The Sham
21-06-2006, 11:58 AM
Linderoth was placing the ball on the pitch rather then inside the corner taking area for all of his corners, (including the one that resulted in the first Swedish goal), he was pulled up over it by the ref towards the very end of the match but prior to that all of his corner kicks were illegally placed. The whole of the ball was over the whole of the corner kick line, and clearly on the pitch proper.

Just a small piece of post match trivia, nothing to get too concerned about, but you would expect more from linesmen and refs at this level.

(Thanks to sky plus, the video evidence doesn't lie).

Actin The Sham
21-06-2006, 12:00 PM
Assuming they beat Ecuador, they are likely to be playing one of Holland, Mexico or Portugal. The current Dutch team is quite young and is really a team for the 2010 World Cup with a few experienced heads thrown in. There's no reason that England wouldn't get a result in that match.


Heinze will probably break Van Nistelrooy's leg and suffer a recurrence of his cruciate injury in the match tonight, and then Rooney will be stretchered off against Ecuador at the weekend, at which point Sir Alex's head will finally explode.

xvis
21-06-2006, 12:04 PM
Linderoth was placing the ball on the pitch rather then inside the corner taking area for all of his corners, (including the one that resulted in the first Swedish goal), he was pulled up over it by the ref towards the very end of the match but prior to that all of his corner kicks were illegally placed. The whole of the ball was over the whole of the corner kick line, and clearly on the pitch proper.

Just a small piece of post match trivia, nothing to get too concerned about, but you would expect more from linesmen and refs at this level.

(Thanks to sky plus, the video evidence doesn't lie).

another small bit of post match trivia, Englands World Cup winning goal in 1966 in fact did not cross the line, it merely struck the crossbar and bounced down 2 inches out from the centre of the goalline. again nothing to get too concerned about.

Actin The Sham
21-06-2006, 12:05 PM
another small bit of post match trivia, Englands World Cup winning goal in 1966 in fact did not cross the line, it merely struck the crossbar and bounced down 2 inches out from the centre of the goalline. again nothing to get too concerned about.


Winning Goal......?

Otto_the_bus_driver
21-06-2006, 12:06 PM
I watched the england match on itv for shits and giggles, Southgate actually isnt as bad as you might think, he made some good points. Comment of the night came from clive who said in reference to Carragher's handball." it was definatley ball to hand, but his hand did move."

xvis
21-06-2006, 12:09 PM
Winning Goal......?

yeah it put them 3-2 up.

the 4th goal came about because the the germans were still arguing with the lineman ..and the german keeper couldnīt see with all the fans on the pitch ..they thought it was all over.

BlueSkies
21-06-2006, 12:11 PM
the lads on RTE ripped Beckham to shreds after the game last night, hilarious stuff.

Actin The Sham
21-06-2006, 12:21 PM
yeah it put them 3-2 up.

the 4th goal came about because the the germans were still arguing with the lineman ..and the german keeper couldnīt see with all the fans on the pitch ..they thought it was all over.


It is now.

xvis
21-06-2006, 12:23 PM
England are an absolute joke side in the second half of games. any team would do well to give them a goal lead in the first half, and then sit back and watch as they unravel in the second.

Joe Cole particularly fades in the second. Beckham continues to drift into the middle too much.
Is the boy even going to get a minute on the pitch?
bringing a boy who hasnīt played a competitive game of football in over 6 months when the other 2 main strikers were also short of fitness for months are the acts of a lunatic.

STEVIEG
21-06-2006, 12:26 PM
Yup even their best defenders (Terry and Cole) looked out of sorts at the end
I can't believe that so many knowledgeable football people continue to defend Beckham he's played about 15 good games for both club and country in the last 4 years......

Paddy Wagon
21-06-2006, 12:37 PM
Michael Owen will be ruled out of the World Cup once a scan on Wednesday confirms the extent of his knee injury.

The England striker twisted his right knee early on in the draw with Sweden, and goalkeeper Paul Robinson told BBC Sport the injury "was a bad one".

"Everyone's gutted for Michael. He did his knee quite seriously and won't play again in the World Cup," Robinson said.

Manager Sven-Goran Eriksson feared the worst, saying: "Maybe he's out of the tournament, it doesn't look good."


Highlights: Sweden 2-2 England

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It looked as if Owen suffered serious knee ligament damage when playing a pass to Ashley Cole in the first few minutes of the 2-2 draw in Cologne.

The 26-year-old, who was winning his 80th cap, crawled off the pitch as soon as he hit the ground, suggesting he knew something was badly wrong.

Ice was put on the knee and a brace was later applied.

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More on our World Cup blog

He will have a scan later on Wednesday at England's Baden-Baden base camp, having flown back there with the rest of the squad overnight.

England skipper David Beckham admitted he thought Owen's injury was serious.

"It's sad - Michael's one of those players you need in big tournaments. It's unfortunate for him and for us," Beckham said.

Former England captain Alan Shearer, who played with Owen at Newcastle last season, told Match of the Day on Tuesday night: "I have had a text from him. He's in a lot of pain and he hopes it's not bad."

The bad injury caps a nightmare season for Owen, who returned to English football last summer in a £17m switch from Real Madrid to Newcastle.

He enjoyed a successful start to his Newcastle career, but broke his foot on New Year's Eve at Tottenham.

Owen battled back to play at the World Cup but looked less than fully fit and was substituted in both of England's opening games, without scoring.

Now it appears his World Cup is over - which also leaves England alarmingly short of strikers.

Wayne Rooney, who has also just recovered from a broken metatarsal, made his first start on Tuesday since suffering that injury.

Peter Crouch and the untested Theo Walcott are the only other established strikers in Eriksson's squad.

The Swede was heavily criticised when he picked his World Cup party for only including four strikers - leaving Jermain Defoe and Darren Bent at home.

Looking ahead to how England may line up in attack without Owen, Robinson admitted: "It looks like we'll go through the rest of the tournament with Wayne Rooney and Peter Crouch and hopefully they'll do well."

STEVIEG
21-06-2006, 12:39 PM
5 months at least

Cruciate injury just confirmed bad luck on the player

Paddy Wagon
21-06-2006, 12:41 PM
He's getting some dose of bad luck......

doppellanger
21-06-2006, 12:54 PM
Why did Ashley Cole run away from the ball for Sweden´s second?

He was standing where the Swedish guys eventually kicked the ball but he ran away from the ball and away from the Swedes and behind the goalkeeper.

Langer Dan
21-06-2006, 02:43 PM
they were absolutely useless.
It would have been a travesty Had England won that game, Sweden destroyed em in the second half.
Joe Cole was cat in the secong half but at least he showed some touch. Lampard and Beckham were dire.

After Owen's injury England now have a strike force that consisits of an unfit, broken footed Rooney , Peter"villa reject" Crouch and a teeneager thats never played in the premiership.

Ecuador are well capable of sending this shower of Jokers home.

Sound
21-06-2006, 02:45 PM
they were absolutely useless.
It would have been a travesty Had England won that game, Sweden destroyed em in the second half.
Joe Cole was cat in the secong half but at least he showed some touch. Lampard and Beckham were dire.

After Owen's injury England now have a strike force that consisits of an unfit, broken footed Rooney , Peter"villa reject" Crouch and a teeneager thats never played in the premiership.

Ecuador are well capable of sending this shower of Jokers home.

You love the aul' hyperbole.

Langer Dan
21-06-2006, 02:46 PM
You love the aul' hyperbole.

whatever. If you've an actual comment on the match to make , feel free.

homer jay
21-06-2006, 02:46 PM
they were absolutely useless.
It would have been a travesty Had England won that game, Sweden destroyed em in the second half.
Joe Cole was cat in the secong half but at least he showed some touch. Lampard and Beckham were dire.

After Owen's injury England now have a strike force that consisits of an unfit, broken footed Rooney , Peter"villa reject" Crouch and a teeneager thats never played in the premiership.

Ecuador are well capable of sending this shower of Jokers home.

thanks for that dunphy

Langer Dan
21-06-2006, 02:47 PM
thanks for that dunphy

would you disagree with anything I said?

Sound
21-06-2006, 02:49 PM
whatever. If you've an actual comment on the match to make , feel free.

I did already above. It consisted of praise, criticism and analysis. Not 'earra they're only useless', which is hyperbole IMO.

This isn't a dig LD.

homer jay
21-06-2006, 02:57 PM
would you disagree with anything I said?

you have a point, but your going over the top. england were way better htan them in the first half, and should have imo been more than 1 up. to say sweden destroyed them in the second half is laughable. they were unlucky with the 2 that hit the bar and the one off the line, but they weren't great. england sat back as they do, and invited them on. better teams will tear england a new one, sweden are a poor side.
joe cole being cat in the second half, is again ott. he didn't get as much of the ball as he did in the first. agreed on lampard and beckham. lampard isn't playing a very good world cup. and beckham has been shit for a long time now, if you'd stop listening to sky sports propaganda you'd realise this.
rooneys foot is healed, he's just short of match fitness. sven's muppetry in team/squad/substitute selection are well documented already. i haven't seen much of ecuador, but if they play anything like ghana/ivory coast they'll give them a run for their money.
i gotta go out for the afternoon, so don't be complaining if i don't reply to your reply :wink:

Langer Dan
21-06-2006, 03:02 PM
ghana/ivory coast :wink:

eh?

Ecuador= South America

here la

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/maps/ec-map.gif

Langer Dan
21-06-2006, 03:04 PM
I did already above. It consisted of praise, criticism and analysis. Not 'earra they're only useless', which is hyperbole IMO.

This isn't a dig LD.

Oh good grief, anything posted here is opinion. Simple as that. I happened to think England were dire. Im sure you feel they were more than adequate but when push comes to shove they're a seriously limited side failing to play to the sum of their parts.

Is Hyperbole your word for the day?
Less Sesame Street more Football please.

Sound
21-06-2006, 03:07 PM
Oh good grief, anything posted here is opinion. Simple as that. I happened to think England were dire. Im sure you feel they were more than adequate but when push comes to shove they're a seriously limited side failing to play to the sum of their parts.

Is Hyperbole your word for the day?
Less Sesame Street more Football please.

'Oh the langer is a person in your neighbourhood,
In your neigbourhood,
In your neigbourhood,
Oh the langer is a person in your neighbourhood,
One of the people that you meet,
When you're walking down the street,
One of the people that you meet each day'.

Mr. Derp
21-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Robinson looked pretty shaky - could be another weak point

POL
21-06-2006, 03:40 PM
Oh good grief, anything posted here is opinion. Simple as that. I happened to think England were dire. Im sure you feel they were more than adequate but when push comes to shove they're a seriously limited side failing to play to the sum of their parts.

Is Hyperbole your word for the day?
Less Sesame Street more Football please.

golly gosh, what a spiffing load of balder dash.

pints tonight old chap? I have no friends like.

Langer Dan
21-06-2006, 03:41 PM
golly gosh, what a spiffing load of balder dash.

pints tonight old chap? I have no friends like.

not surprising really. Thats generally what happens to cunts.

POL
21-06-2006, 03:44 PM
not surprising really. Thats generally what happens to cunts.

oh Dan, you weren't such a hard man at the piss up, remember, big brother is watching, always watching...

Langer Dan
21-06-2006, 04:06 PM
oh Dan, you weren't such a hard man at the piss up, remember, big brother is watching, always watching...

shaddup, no show.

afeencalleddan
21-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Assuming they beat Ecuador, they are likely to be playing one of Holland, Mexico or Portugal. The current Dutch team is quite young and is really a team for the 2010 World Cup with a few experienced heads thrown in. There's no reason that England wouldn't get a result in that match.The fact that they wouldn't see the ball for 90 minutes would be reason enough for me.

Sound
21-06-2006, 05:20 PM
The fact that they wouldn't see the ball for 90 minutes would be reason enough for me.

Dan- hard on England and the causes of Englishness.

:)

homer jay
21-06-2006, 06:45 PM
eh?

Ecuador= South America

here la

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/maps/ec-map.gif

yeah, thanks for the goegraphy lesson, its always good to know your still able to google something.
i was saying that if they played like to ghana/ivory coast, (teams that would be considered in much the same catagory, a lesser team in world standings) who have played some great footy, they should give england a good game, and be in with a shout.
so my guess would be that because you couldn't find anything in my post to argue with, you must agree with what i say??? you should retract your initial hyperbolic statement :lol:

homer jay
21-06-2006, 06:47 PM
Dan- hard on England and the causes of Englishness.

:)

Sound-tough on hyperbole, tough on the causes of hyperbole

:lol: