2006 Giro D'Italia

[the puerto rican feen]

Gerolsteiner's Stefan Schumacher takes the pink jersey on Stage 3 in Belgium.

Alessandro Petacchi broke his kneecap in a fall, still finished the stage but is out of the race.

The first 150 riders are separated by around 3 minutes, with the team time trial and some mountain stages on the way there is going to be a lot of changes.

[emurf]

so

[the puerto rican feen]

so


Well I am right fucking sorry that it is not another GAA/rugby/soccer thread. I happen to like cycling and just like any other thread here, read it if you wish, maybe someone is interested, either way I don't care. If you have nothing positive or negative to say other than the response of a 9 year old, fuck off.

[boshea]

Well I am right fucking sorry that it is not another GAA/rugby/soccer thread. I happen to like cycling and just like any other thread here, read it if you wish, maybe someone is interested, either way I don't care. If you have nothing positive or negative to say other than the response of a 9 year old, fuck off.

heh heh heh....good response.

Have been watching bits n pieces of it...whatever they show on eurosport really.
Is good to see that lots of teams are attacking ....they dont seem too afraid of discovery without lance (now I know he didn't ride the giro much..but still!)

I was watching the prologue on saturday, and Marc Scanlon was about to set off, and the commentators were taking the piss out of him a bit and calling him chubby, fat etc. In fairness to them, they did mention that he was a late replacement for another guy in his team who got sick or injured. Was kinda funny though....his skinsuit that he was wearing for the time trial did him feck all justice.

Jan Ulrich is quiet as well....although I know he's only just using it for training purposes before the tour....will be interesting to see how he does in the individual time trial though.......that will be a good indicator of what we can expect from him in july.....I really hope he does it this year!

[the puerto rican feen]

heh heh heh....good response.

Have been watching bits n pieces of it...whatever they show on eurosport really.
Is good to see that lots of teams are attacking ....they dont seem too afraid of discovery without lance (now I know he didn't ride the giro much..but still!)

I was watching the prologue on saturday, and Marc Scanlon was about to set off, and the commentators were taking the piss out of him a bit and calling him chubby, fat etc. In fairness to them, they did mention that he was a late replacement for another guy in his team who got sick or injured. Was kinda funny though....his skinsuit that he was wearing for the time trial did him feck all justice.

Jan Ulrich is quiet as well....although I know he's only just using it for training purposes before the tour....will be interesting to see how he does in the individual time trial though.......that will be a good indicator of what we can expect from him in july.....I really hope he does it this year!

It is live on OLN in the US, except my shite cable provider decided to remove OLN last year for some other shite channel.

Back to the racing, Ulrich is only 55 secs behind. Team Time Trial on thursday and first big day in the mountains on saturday. A big CSC vs Discovery showdown on the cards lets see.

Got my new bike too, got an upgrade to a Cervelo P2 SL, sweet machine.

[Carmona]

heh heh heh....good response.

Have been watching bits n pieces of it...whatever they show on eurosport really.
Is good to see that lots of teams are attacking ....they dont seem too afraid of discovery without lance (now I know he didn't ride the giro much..but still!)

I was watching the prologue on saturday, and Marc Scanlon was about to set off, and the commentators were taking the piss out of him a bit and calling him chubby, fat etc. In fairness to them, they did mention that he was a late replacement for another guy in his team who got sick or injured. Was kinda funny though....his skinsuit that he was wearing for the time trial did him feck all justice.

Jan Ulrich is quiet as well....although I know he's only just using it for training purposes before the tour....will be interesting to see how he does in the individual time trial though.......that will be a good indicator of what we can expect from him in july.....I really hope he does it this year!
Didn't realise we had representation - must keep an eye on him. Seemingly very tough route this year, loads of mountains and hard bastards too.

[the puerto rican feen]

Didn't realise we had representation - must keep an eye on him. Seemingly very tough route this year, loads of mountains and hard bastards too.


Parts of stages are almost offroad on top of that. The Tour de France organizers should take note of how to make a spectacle.

[boshea]

Parts of stages are almost offroad on top of that. The Tour de France organizers should take note of how to make a spectacle.


Not almost offroad....they actaually are!!!!

The last 8km of one of the hardest stages this year is ok a road that's not surfaced...basically your shitty old bog road type thing....except in (probably) baking heat and dry and dusty.

LEt me know how that bike goes for you....I'm probably going to invest in something along the same lines myself for next year....either something like what you have, or else the Trek Equinox 9, or the Speciallized Transition Comp. All are roughly in the same area price/spec wise....so will be good to get some feedback from a users perspective as opposed to the usual sales pitch that's found online.

Carmona...Marc Scanlon is riding for the AGR2 team.....he's probably no more than a domestique for the other guys on the team, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him drop out as he's obviously not race fit. A decent rider, although he'll never figure in any of the standings......I think he ranked fairly high in the Young Rider classification in the tour a year or two ago, so maybe one for the future!

[the puerto rican feen]

the cervelo groupset is dura ace, which is unusual as most bikes in that price range are running, ultegra, 105 and dura ace combinations.

hey boshea, Inbox is full.

[boshea]

the cervelo groupset is dura ace, which is unusual as most bikes in that price range are running, ultegra, 105 and dura ace combinations.

hey boshea, Inbox is full.

Empty now lad.

That's good...didn't realise it was a full dura ace groupset at all.

I'm tempted to build a bike up myself (with the help of local bike shop obviously!)....can get TT frames at a decent price on ebay......was thinking ultegra drive train/derailleurs and dura ace bar end shifter setup myself.......I think the dura ace would be wasted on me to be honest.

[Carmona]

Looking at the classification there and I know they've only had 3 days and all, but if he's out of shape he's doing ok, 2.21 down in 124th place. There's loads a guys with 5,6,8 or 10 minutes down already. So good luck to him, esp. for the mountains.

[the puerto rican feen]

Looking at the classification there and I know they've only had 3 days and all, but if he's out of shape he's doing ok, 2.21 down in 124th place. There's loads a guys with 5,6,8 or 10 minutes down already. So good luck to him, esp. for the mountains.

2.21 is not much, lets see how he does in the mountains, which don't suit his big frame.

[the puerto rican feen]

T-mobile would have won the stage except their 5th rider finished 2 second behind the rest of the team and they lost the stage by 2 seconds

Stage 5 Results

1 Team CSC 36.56 (56.859 km/h)
2 T-Mobile Team 0.01
3 Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.39
4 Liquigas 0.42
5 Francaise Des Jeux 1.00
6 Gerolsteiner 1.03
7 Quickstep-Innergetic
8 Lampre-Fondital 1.04
9 Phonak Hearing Systems
10 Credit Agricole 1.07


General
1 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team 15.30.23
2 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 0.06
3 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile Team
4 Olaf Pollack (Ger) T-Mobile Team 0.10
5 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 0.11
6 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel 0.20
7 Nicki Sorensen (Den) Team CSC 0.29
8 Stefan Schumacher (Ger) Gerolsteiner 0.31
9 Bobby Julich (USA) Team CSC 0.33
10 José Luis Rubiera Vigil (Spa) Discovery Channel 0.38

Notables
11 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.44

12 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 0.49

18 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.06

26 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 1.20

120 Mark Scanlon (Irl) AG2R Prevoyance 3.11

[dancefreak2003]

where's Vinokurov these days??

[the puerto rican feen]

where's Vinokurov these days??
Back in Kazachstan doing high altitude training. He will race in Dauphinée Liberée and his main focus is the Tour De France.

[dancefreak2003]

he's my bet for le tour

[the puerto rican feen]

he's my bet for le tour
shame he is passing up the Giro though

[dancefreak2003]

shame he is passing up the Giro though


Suppose he's pulling an Armstrong and concentrating on the big one.


But in saying that, if you consider the amount the other riders who won multiple Tours against Lance's theirs are more impressive IMO, because they were riding all season long not just concentrating on the one event.

[the puerto rican feen]

Suppose he's pulling an Armstrong and concentrating on the big one.


But in saying that, if you consider the amount the other riders who won multiple Tours against Lance's theirs are more impressive IMO, because they were riding all season long not just concentrating on the one event.

Merckx competed in the Giro, all the classics, the tour de france and the world championships, and even races in the winter too.

[EDDIEB]

he's my bet for le tour


I'd fance Basso for the tour.Its starting in London this year I think ?
Discovery are still a very strong team.

[the puerto rican feen]

I'd fance Basso for the tour.Its starting in London this year I think ?
Discovery are still a very strong team.

London in 2007

Basso CSC team is very strong also, which can be a big factor in the team time trials, I know in 2004 that they limited the amout of time that a team can lose in the time trial and it was a bit of a farce.

[EDDIEB]

London in 2007

Basso CSC team is very strong also, which can be a big factor in the team time trials, I know in 2004 that they limited the amout of time that a team can lose in the time trial and it was a bit of a farce.


Cheers London should be good !
Planning holidays in France next year to get in some of the stages as near the westsouth west coast as possible i.e. 3hours+ driving

[boshea]

Cheers London should be good !
Planning holidays in France next year to get in some of the stages as near the westsouth west coast as possible i.e. 3hours+ driving


I spent 2 weeks in teh pyrenees earlier in the year and got to cycle on a number of climbs that were used in the tour......unbelievab le...hills that go on for 10-15 miles and steep all the way...

There are plenty of companies offering 1/2 week long holidays now where you spend time in the alps and pyrenees during the tour.....cycle some of the climbs the day before the tour arrives and stay and catch them as they pass the following day.....also takes in the start of some of stages where you get to mix with the riders and check out their gear in detail...definitely something i'd like to do.

[the puerto rican feen]

Men from the boys day in the mountains, Sergei Gonchar (T-Mobile) has the maglia rosa. some riders are now 20, 30 and over 40 minutes down.


1 Rik Verbrugghe (Bel) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone 6.42.15 (35.201 km/h)
2 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.14
3 Luca Mazzanti (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
4 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
5 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.16
6 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC
7 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team
8 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
9 Laurent Lefevre (Fra) Bouygues Telecom 0.20
10 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team


General Classification
1 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team 27.37.07
2 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.06
3 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 0.11
4 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile Team 0.32
5 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.54
6 José Luis Rubiera Vigil (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling 0.56
7 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.57
8 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.03
9 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 1.07
10 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 1.09

Notables
22 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 2.07

143 Mark Scanlon (Irl) AG2R Prevoyance 24.04

[Carmona]

Men from the boys day in the mountains, Sergei Gonchar (T-Mobile) has the maglia rosa. some riders are now 20, 30 and over 40 minutes down.


1 Rik Verbrugghe (Bel) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone 6.42.15 (35.201 km/h)
2 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.14
3 Luca Mazzanti (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
4 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
5 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.16
6 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC
7 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team
8 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
9 Laurent Lefevre (Fra) Bouygues Telecom 0.20
10 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team


General Classification
1 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team 27.37.07
2 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.06
3 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 0.11
4 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile Team 0.32
5 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.54
6 José Luis Rubiera Vigil (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling 0.56
7 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.57
8 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.03
9 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 1.07
10 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 1.09

Notables
22 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 2.07

143 Mark Scanlon (Irl) AG2R Prevoyance 24.04D'ya reckon Ullrich might ride himself into good form by the end of this, in which case you'd fancy him for the Tour.

[the puerto rican feen]

D'ya reckon Ullrich might ride himself into good form by the end of this, in which case you'd fancy him for the Tour.


Not really sure, there are reports that his condition more than his form is the problem and this season he was a few kg heavier starting at the start. You would never know. He lost over a minute today from the main rivals on the finish of the stage.

[the puerto rican feen]

Basso wins the stage in style and puts a dent in the chances of discovery channel, and with a team as strong as CSC they will defend the maglia rose well. But you would never know.




Stage Result
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 4.04.19 (41.994 km/h)
2 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 0.30
3 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
4 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.45
5 Luca Mazzanti (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 1.09
6 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.15
7 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
8 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 1.32
9 José Rujano Guillen (Ven) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 1.50
10 Julio Alberto Perez Cuapio (Mex) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 1.52

General Classification
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 31.41.17
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.34
3 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 1.48
4 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 2.35
5 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team 2.43
6 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 2.48
7 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 3.20
8 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 3.23
9 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 3.31
10 José Luis Rubiera Vigil (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 3.39

Notables
36 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile Team 9.30

37 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 9.52

56 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 18.20

164 Mark Scanlon (Irl) AG2R Prevoyance 48.01

[the puerto rican feen]

Late start of 2 pm, ended in bunch finish, with a Lithuanian AG2R rider Tomas Vaitkus taking the sprint from Quick Step-Innergetic rider Paolo Bettini. Australian Robbie McEwen came in 4th, and retains the green points jersey

No major change in the General Classification.

[boshea]

Late start of 2 pm, ended in bunch finish, with a Lithuanian AG2R rider Tomas Vaitkus taking the sprint from Quick Step-Innergetic rider Paolo Bettini. Australian Robbie McEwen came in 4th, and retains the green points jersey

No major change in the General Classification.

Jesus...will bettini ever win a stage in this tour!!!!....robbie mcewen looks like he's starting to suffer as well....he has 3 stage victories so far, but in the last 1/2 group finishes, he didn't look like he had the legs to compete in the sprints.

[the puerto rican feen]

Jesus...will bettini ever win a stage in this tour!!!!....robbie mcewen looks like he's starting to suffer as well....he has 3 stage victories so far, but in the last 1/2 group finishes, he didn't look like he had the legs to compete in the sprints.


he was actually droppped today and fought back. Next week is going to be very difficult.

[the puerto rican feen]

Basso comes second to Ulrich in todays time trial and gains time on everybody else in the top 10. Transition day tomorrow, but a very difficult week coming up with a lot of mountain stages.

Results
1 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile 58.48
2 Ivan Basso (Ita) CSC 0.27
3 Marco Pinotti (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.01
4 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile 1.09
5 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel 1.19
6 Jose E. Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak 1.42
7 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 2.12
8 Gustav Erik Larsson (Swe) Française des Jeux 2.22
9 Dario David Cioni (Ita) Liquigas 2.24
10 Viatcheslav Ekimov (Rus) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 2.27
11 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel 2.35
12 Stef Clement (Ned) Bouygues Telecom 2.40

General classification after stage 11

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 40.28.56
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.48
3 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team 3.24
4 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 3.26
5 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 5.38
6 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 6.37
7 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 6.54
8 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital
9 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 7.13
10 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 7.33
...
14 José Rujano Guillen (Ven) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 9.19

[homer jay]

looks like its basso's to lose. where is ulrich in the GC? is he in any form at all, do you think he's a contender for the TDF?

[the puerto rican feen]

looks like its basso's to lose. where is ulrich in the GC? is he in any form at all, do you think he's a contender for the TDF?


Ulrich is about 20 mins down on GC, there has been rumours about his excess weight during the off season, which is usually a good indicator of his TDF form, not sure if he will be able to pick it up before July 1. He does have a strong team to help him as does basso.

Basso's to lose, well next week is an unbelieveabley hard one in the mountains, so the pure climbers will gain, Basso only needs to have one bad day.

[Limp Diego]

Apparently the TDF plays into Ullrich's hands - long time trials and not many mountain top finishes. But it seems once again his form before is questionable, as is his weight, i don't know why he just doesn't get himself into shape this year of all years.

[homer jay]

Apparently the TDF plays into Ullrich's hands - long time trials and not many mountain top finishes. But it seems once again his form before is questionable, as is his weight, i don't know why he just doesn't get himself into shape this year of all years.

yeah his winter form as always been his downfall imo. its a pity cos the guy obviously has the talent, if he'd just get the finger out.

[Joey Joe Joe]

I lost interest in cycling after Pantani left. RIP

[the puerto rican feen]

Joan Horrach Rippoll's won the stage, biggest victory of the 32 year old 6 year career. He and a gropu of six riders finished about 7 minutes ahead of the magila rose and some in that group made big gains on General Classification. Sergui Gonchar crashed and was dropped on the last climb and is about 10 minutes down on GC.

TDF 2005 King of the Mountains Michael Rasmussen did not start and the irishman Mark Scanlon abandonned.

Tomorrow is the first big mountain stage, will CSC be able to control the race for Basso or will basso do a lance armstrong and do a tear up the mountians blowing his rivals out.


Stage Result
1 Joan Horrach Rippoll (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 3.55.53 (42.987 km/h)
2 Addy Engels (Ned) Quick Step-Innergetic 0.05
3 Emanuele Sella (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
4 Manuele Mori (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
5 Fortunato Baliani (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
6 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni
7 Sven Krauss (Ger) Gerolsteiner 1.03
8 Alberto Ongarato (Ita) Team Milram
9 Joerg Ludewig (Ger) T-Mobile Team
10 Manuel Beltran Martinez (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling


General Classification

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 44.31.52
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.48
3 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 3.26
4 Emanuele Sella (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 4.21
5 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 5.31
6 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 5.38
7 Manuel Beltran Martinez (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling 6.36
8 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 6.37
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 6.54
10 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital

Notables
12 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 7.33

21 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile Team 10.01

39 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 18.46

DNF Mark Scanlon (Irl) AG2R Prevoyance

DNS Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank

[boshea]

I think Ulrich is looking quite good.....looks like he's going to peak just in time for the tour de france...........goo d to see him doing some damage in the time trial yesterday.
Hopefully, he'll have even 1/2 good days in the mountains next week...even just for his own confidence. It would be fantastic to see him blow the others away, even if it was only on 1 stage.....as if to say "Wait til July when I'll be really fit". Come on ya fat bastard ya.

Shame to see scanlon dropping out, but I'm not surprised really, seeing as he wasn't supposed to be riding it anyway and was only a last minute replacement for another lad on his team.

[the puerto rican feen]

Team CSC covered all the attacks on the first 3 hours of the race today, on the last climb Basso made his break ( Lance Armstrong style) and finished by taking more time from his rivals, they couldnt stay with him only Piepoli managed it and on the descent to the finish flew away from Basso. Basso was a lot more careful on the descent.
T-Mobiles Michael Rogers and Sprinter Robbie Mc Ewen did not start and Stage 9 Winner Abandonned.



Stage Results
1 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 5.21.12 (40.348 km/h)
2 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 0.44
3 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.19
4 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
5 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 2.09
6 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas
7 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R Prevoyance 2.13
8 Julio Alberto Perez Cuapio (Mex) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 2.18
9 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 2.36
10 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team



General Classification
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 49.53.36
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 3.27
3 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 5.30
4 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 7.35
5 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 8.00
6 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 8.14
7 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 8.35
8 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 8.58
9 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 10.36
10 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 11.12


Notables
39 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 28.21

[the puerto rican feen]

Colombian Luis Felipe Laverde winst eh stage, the peloton with the maglia rose finishes 7.44 behind. No changes to the top 10.

Todays stage is a flat one, sprinters to the fore.

Stage Results
1 Luis Felipe Laverde Jimenez (Col) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 5.27.05 (40.356 km/h)
2 Francisco Perez Sanchez (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
3 Paolo Tiralongo (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 0.07
4 Stefan Schumacher (Ger) Gerolsteiner
5 Raffaele Illiano (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni
6 Fortunato Baliani (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
7 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux
8 Iker Flores Galarza (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
9 Steve Zampieri (Swi) Phonak Hearing Systems
10 Johann Tschopp (Swi) Phonak Hearing Systems
11 Ivan Ramiro Parra Pinto (Col) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone
12 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick Step-Innergetic 7.44


General Classsification

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 55.28.25
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 3.27
3 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 5.30
4 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 7.35
5 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 8.00
6 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 8.01
7 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 8.14
8 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 8.35
9 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 8.58
10 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 10.36

notables
41 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 28.21

[the puerto rican feen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptYbfQx6-mk&search=kraftwerk


Thanks for that

Please repost on July 1st

[boshea]

Thanks for that

Please repost on July 1st

Have you seen the highlights from yesterdays stage yet?.....ulrich was driving the peleton on in the last 5km of the stage....was flying it and really strung out the riders behind him......I'm telling ya, he's looking bloody strong....doesn't look at all heavy either....I have a good feeling about him.

Good to see bettini getting a stage in his home tour as well....probably won't see him for the rest of the week now....it's time for Basso and his CSC boys to shine again in the hills.

[the puerto rican feen]

Have you seen the highlights from yesterdays stage yet?.....ulrich was driving the peleton on in the last 5km of the stage....was flying it and really strung out the riders behind him......I'm telling ya, he's looking bloody strong....doesn't look at all heavy either....I have a good feeling about him.

Good to see bettini getting a stage in his home tour as well....probably won't see him for the rest of the week now....it's time for Basso and his CSC boys to shine again in the hills.




I didnt see the highlights but I he was working with his team for pollack in the sprints and even went back to the team car to get food and drink for them.

You think he faking on the Giro, 28 mins down on GC.

Merkx always maintained that the best prep for the Tour De France was to win the tour of italy.

[boshea]

I didnt see the highlights but I he was working with his team for pollack in the sprints and even went back to the team car to get food and drink for them.

You think he faking on the Giro, 28 mins down on GC.

Merkx always maintained that the best prep for the Tour De France was to win the tour of italy.

Times have changed alot since the likes of Merkyx was riding though.

I don't think he's faking....but I don't think he's pushing himself hard in the hills either.....the power is obviously there....his win in the time trial proved that. I think he's doing what he said he would, and using the Giro to help him reach his peak for the Tour......he doesn't want to go 'too deep' on the mountains...and all the time his conditioning is improving. Plus it will be interesting to see how Basso copes with pushing hard in the Giro and in the Tour as well.....he's never had to do that before....and you don't see any of the other contenders for the tour racing in the Giro either....Landis, Vino and so on. Plus, think of the amount of pressure that's going to be on Basso in the tour after winning the Giro!!!....he'll never ever have faced anything like that before.
I think I'm going to throw a few quid on Ulrich....I've had a feeling all year that he would do it. (he's 9-4 at the moment on Paddy Power).

All that said....Vino is 13-2 - that's definitely worth a few quid in my book.

[Carmona]

Yippppeeee!! I've just realised my internet provider offers streaming of Eurosport for 2 yoyos a month. So I'm watching today's stage right now. Gotta go, here comes the climb, being compared to Alpe D'Huez!

[homer jay]

Times have changed alot since the likes of Merkyx was riding though.

I don't think he's faking....but I don't think he's pushing himself hard in the hills either.....the power is obviously there....his win in the time trial proved that. I think he's doing what he said he would, and using the Giro to help him reach his peak for the Tour......he doesn't want to go 'too deep' on the mountains...and all the time his conditioning is improving. Plus it will be interesting to see how Basso copes with pushing hard in the Giro and in the Tour as well.....he's never had to do that before....and you don't see any of the other contenders for the tour racing in the Giro either....Landis, Vino and so on. Plus, think of the amount of pressure that's going to be on Basso in the tour after winning the Giro!!!....he'll never ever have faced anything like that before.
I think I'm going to throw a few quid on Ulrich....I've had a feeling all year that he would do it. (he's 9-4 at the moment on Paddy Power).

All that said....Vino is 13-2 - that's definitely worth a few quid in my book.

maybe he is keeping himself for the tour. but last year (or the year before, can't remember tbh) he had a great winter and looked all set to give armstrong a solid challenge, but didn't. i'd be reluctant to part with my hard earned cash for him.

[Carmona]

Jaysus, didn't Basso look good. Almost Armstrongish, except he only had two team mates at the start of the climb as opposed to Lance who'd have 6 till about 3 km to go, and none of em ever took anything!!

[boshea]

Jaysus, didn't Basso look good. Almost Armstrongish, except he only had two team mates at the start of the climb as opposed to Lance who'd have 6 till about 3 km to go, and none of em ever took anything!!

that's cos they'd be fucked off the team if the showed any potential of upstaging lance or if the declared that they'd like to win something themselves sometime.....Floyd Landis, Tyler Hamilton!!!!

[Carmona]

that's cos they'd be fucked off the team if the showed any potential of upstaging lance or if the declared that they'd like to win something themselves sometime.....Floyd Landis, Tyler Hamilton!!!!
Sorry, I meant didn't take anything intravenously (sp?). Anyway, I've just seen the profile for tomorrow's stage, seems like the last climb is a real beauty. Basso is looking too good though.

[the puerto rican feen]

Basso wins the stage and puts more time in to his rivals. CSC covered the breaks early on, but on the last climb to the finish he again blew the top 10 away, not even the specialist climbers could stay with him. Todays stage is another brutal one with a 5.5 km finish on a road that has only recently been paved.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/giro06/giro0616/fs-011.jpg

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 4.51.30 (34.579 km/h)
2 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.26
3 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.37
4 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
5 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R Prevoyance 2.40
6 Julio Alberto Perez Cuapio (Mex) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 2.45
7 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 3.12
8 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 3.25
9 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 3.27
10 David Lopez Garcia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
11 Francisco Perez Sanchez (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
12 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
13 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems

General Classification
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 64.35.17
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 5.24
3 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 9.17
4 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 9.34
5 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 11.07
6 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 11.59
7 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 12.40
8 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 13.55
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 14.59
10 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 15.18

[boshea]

Sorry, I meant didn't take anything intravenously (sp?). Anyway, I've just seen the profile for tomorrow's stage, seems like the last climb is a real beauty. Basso is looking too good though.

I know you didn't mean drugs....but lance had a habit of getting rid of guys when the showed an interest in winning something for themselves.

[the puerto rican feen]

I know you didn't mean drugs....but lance had a habit of getting rid of guys when the showed an interest in winning something for themselves.


Team CSC have

Fabian Cancellara
Bobby Julich
David Zabriskie
Jens Voigt
Fränk Schleck

all winners in their own right, makes for a better team.

[boshea]

Team CSC have

Fabian Cancellara
Bobby Julich
David Zabriskie
Jens Voigt
Fränk Schleck

all winners in their own right, makes for a better team.


Definitely....it's one thing that discovery probably lacked....their focus was solely on the tour, that they almost forgot about the spring classics etc....and the tour aside, they got very few victories in other races.
CSC and Quick Step are winning all round them this year, although Quick Step don't really have anybody that will figure in the GC in a stage race....Paolo Bettini and Tom Boonen will be good for a few stage wins though in most of them.

[The Lord McGrath]

I find the sight of a well muscled thigh quite appealing I must say, "oh push it Claudio, fight for the yellow jersey, fight damn you"....

[the puerto rican feen]

I find the sight of a well muscled thigh quite appealing I must say, "oh push it Claudio, fight for the yellow jersey, fight damn you"....

Who the hell is claudio ?

[The Lord McGrath]

Who the hell is claudio ?

keep it in your trousers big boy

[boshea]

Who the hell is claudio ?

I don't know either!!!!

wonder how long before the post is edited.

[The Lord McGrath]

I must admit the downhill descent excites me greatly, what do you guys like? the tight finish I guess?

[boshea]

Ah, I see what you're doing.....you don't understand it, so you choose to mock it.

And to answer your question......my favourite part of the racing is either the climbing or the time trialling.

[the puerto rican feen]

Leonardo Piepoli wins a second stage and Basso finishes just behind him, the top 10 lose more time to Basso. The satge was shortened because of concerns about the really bad weather at the top of the final climb, the race skipped one of the climbs, and the final "off-road" 5 km was also removed, which annoyed the local organizers as they had spent some money preparing the route for the race.

Stage Result
1 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 3.21.26 (34.254 km/h)
2 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC
3 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.15
4 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 0.19
5 Julio Alberto Perez Cuapio (Mex) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 0.28
6 John Gadret (Fra) AG2R Prevoyance 0.37
7 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 0.41
8 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 0.48
9 Sergio Ghisalberti (Ita) Team Milram 0.58
10 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team
11 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 1.14


General Classification
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 67.56.31
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 5.43
3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 10.34
4 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 10.58
5 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 12.30
6 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 13.00
7 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 14.06
8 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 14.48
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 16.40
10 José Luis Rubiera Vigil (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 17.48

43 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 45.31

[doppelganger]

Leonardo Piepoli wins a second stage and Basso finishes just behind him, the top 10 lose more time to Basso. The satge was shortened because of concerns about the really bad weather at the top of the final climb, the race skipped one of the climbs, and the final "off-road" 5 km was also removed, which annoyed the local organizers as they had spent some money preparing the route for the race.


I saw that in the IHT, some of the riders did not want to race off-road so the race organizers gave in and had it paved. "Next, they´ll want breakfast in bed," was the quote.

[Carmona]

I saw that in the IHT, some of the riders did not want to race off-road so the race organizers gave in and had it paved. "Next, they´ll want breakfast in bed," was the quote.
Ya gotta love those organisers! They want the lads to climb their balls off and then they come across all shocked when the drugs scandals hit the news. Can't these guys ride a measly 170 kms a day up hill for a few weeks @ 50 kph without breakfast in bed. Goddamn wusses.

[the puerto rican feen]

Stefan Schumacher wins the stage, a day long breakaway by five riders were never caught and finished 2 43 ahead of the maglia rose, none of the five made any change to the GC top 10.

Stage Result
1 Stefan Schumacher (Ger) Gerolsteiner 5.31.33 (37.46 km/h)
2 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Lampre-Fondital
3 José Ivan Gutierrez Palacios (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
4 David Lopez Garcia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0.02
5 Charles Wegelius (GBr) Liquigas 0.07
6 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick Step-Innergetic 2.43
7 Alberto Ongarato (Ita) Team Milram
8 Matthew White (Aus) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
9 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
10 Paolo Tiralongo (Ita) Lampre-Fondital



General Classification
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 73.30.47
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 5.43
3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 10.34
4 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 10.58
5 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 12.30
6 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 13.00
7 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 14.06
8 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 14.48
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 16.40
10 José Luis Rubiera Vigil (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 17.48


42 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 45.31

[the puerto rican feen]

Jens Voigt (CSC) concedes the 19th stage to Juan Manuel Garate (Quick.Step). The maglia rose finished 2.15 down and again gained some time on all of the top 10 except for Simoni who finished with basso. This was the toughest day in the mountains, one more day for Basso and barring a accident he should take the Giro, but you would never know.

Jan Ulrich quit the race on the with around 10k to go complaining of back problems.

Another tough day tomorrow with 4000m of climbing.



1 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 7.13.36 (30.581 km/h)
2 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 0.04
3 Francisco J. Vila Errandonea (Spa) Lampre-Fondital 1.21
4 Tadej Valjavec (Slo) Lampre-Fondital 1.55
5 Emanuele Sella (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 2.06
6 Ivan Ramiro Parra Pinto (Col) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone
7 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 2.15
8 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC
9 Johann Tschopp (Swi) Phonak Hearing Systems
10 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 2.19
11 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.39
12 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 2.40
13 Patrice Halgand (Fra) Credit Agricole 2.55
14 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 3.57
15 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 4.16
16 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
17 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
18 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
19 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
20 Fortunato Baliani (Ita) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 4.30

DNF Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team

General Classification
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 80.46.38
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 6.07
3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 10.34
4 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 12.59
5 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 15.13
6 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 15.26
7 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 16.07
8 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 16.40
9 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni 17.23
10 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas 18.31

[the puerto rican feen]

Basso wins the stage, leaving all his rival in his wake.

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 6.51.15 (30.784 km/h)
2 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.17
3 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 2.51
4 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
5 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 6.03
6 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
7 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 7.26
8 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
10 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team



General Classification
1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 87.37.33
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 9.18
3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 11.59
4 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 18.16
5 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 19.22
6 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 23.53
7 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 24.26
8 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 25.57
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 26.27
10 Francisco J. Vila Errandonea (Spa) Lampre-Fondital 27.34

[the puerto rican feen]

Basso wraps up the Giro by over 9 minutes, fantastic performance, and great job by his team, CSC. Let's hope that he didnt peak too early, Tour de France begins July 1st.




1 Robert Forster (Ger) Gerolsteiner 3.56.03 (35.585 km/h)
2 Axel Maximiliano Richeze (Arg) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
3 Olaf Pollack (Ger) T-Mobile Team
4 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick Step-Innergetic
5 Leonardo Duque (Col) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone
6 Elia Rigotto (Ita) Team Milram
7 Yuriy Krivtsov (Ukr) AG2R Prevoyance
8 Sven Krauss (Ger) Gerolsteiner
9 Renaud Dion (Fra) AG2R Prevoyance
10 Koen De Kort (Ned) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team

Final General classification

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 91.33.36
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 9.18
3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 11.59
4 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 18.16
5 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 19.22
6 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 23.53
7 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 24.26
8 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 25.57
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 26.27
10 Francisco J. Vila Errandonea (Spa) Lampre-Fondital 27.34

[storysham]

how long does this bastard giro go on for?

Im fukkin sick of looking at the thread title, it pisses me off for some reason.

[the puerto rican feen]

Basso wraps up the Giro by over 9 minutes, fantastic performance, and great job by his team, CSC. Let's hope that he didnt peak too early, Tour de France begins July 1st.




1 Robert Forster (Ger) Gerolsteiner 3.56.03 (35.585 km/h)
2 Axel Maximiliano Richeze (Arg) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
3 Olaf Pollack (Ger) T-Mobile Team
4 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick Step-Innergetic
5 Leonardo Duque (Col) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone
6 Elia Rigotto (Ita) Team Milram
7 Yuriy Krivtsov (Ukr) AG2R Prevoyance
8 Sven Krauss (Ger) Gerolsteiner
9 Renaud Dion (Fra) AG2R Prevoyance
10 Koen De Kort (Ned) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team

Final General classification

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 91.33.36
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 9.18
3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 11.59
4 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 18.16
5 Paolo Savoldelli (Ita) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 19.22
6 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 23.53
7 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 24.26
8 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 25.57
9 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 26.27
10 Francisco J. Vila Errandonea (Spa) Lampre-Fondital 27.34


Ahem, ya cranky bollocks

Why does it piss you off ?

Ya won't mind 3 weeks of the Tour De France then, starting July 1

[storysham]

Ahem, ya cranky bollocks

Why does it piss you off ?

Ya won't mind 3 weeks of the Tour De France then, starting July 1

I agree im being a cranky bollocks.

Its always at the top of the list when i log on, and apart form its cyclingish i know fuck all about the subject.

[Carmona]

I agree im being a cranky bollocks.

Its always at the top of the list when i log on, and apart form its cyclingish i know fuck all about the subject.
Great sport, one of the best but being screwed by the drugs. Not alone in that like but fairly deep in the culture. Get into it by watching the Tour.

[the puerto rican feen]

I agree im being a cranky bollocks.

Its always at the top of the list when i log on, and apart form its cyclingish i know fuck all about the subject.


I don't know that much about either.

[storysham]

fucking thread

[the puerto rican feen]

fucking thread


fuck sake ya cranky fuck, I let it slide off so that it wouldnt annoy ya and now you bring it back


cycling = sports

here = sports forum

deal with it

there is more to life than football, GAA and rugby for some people

how about triathlon

[storysham]

fuck sake ya cranky fuck, I let it slide off so that it wouldnt annoy ya and now you bring it back



i was pissed.


dammit!