Cork v Clare

[POL]

uninspiring stuff, just above challenge match standard from both sides, Clare have unearthed more physical forwards, championship plan seems to be to dominate Cork half backs and stop them wining possession from puck outs, Gardiner had a tough day at the office with that mullacher they had on him, thing is I saw them against Offaly and they have other new big lads in their forwards who can hurl and take points, nice crowd for a league game, over 10,000, you wouldn't get that a celtic league match

[Lamps]

uninspiring stuff, just above challenge match standard from both sides, Clare have unearthed more physical forwards, championship plan seems to be to dominate Cork half backs and stop them wining possession from puck outs, Gardiner had a tough day at the office with that mullacher they had on him, thing is I saw them against Offaly and they have other new big lads in their forwards who can hurl and take points, nice crowd for a league game, over 10,000, you wouldn't get that a celtic league match

wasn't able to make the game, result won't matter too much for either side i suppose

is it looking like sean og is going to be used as a running midfileder with tom kenny switching to half forward and either pat mul or cian o connor taking a half back slot? its a pity they are out if this is the case, cos they would have needed at least another 2 games to be sure. an interesting idea.

[POL]

wasn't able to make the game, result won't matter too much for either side i suppose

is it looking like sean og is going to be used as a running midfileder with tom kenny switching to half forward and either pat mul or cian o connor taking a half back slot? its a pity they are out if this is the case, cos they would have needed at least another 2 games to be sure. an interesting idea.

I wouldn't think so lamps, Sean Og will stay wing back, as you said it didn't really matter to both sides who won, though it would have been nice, lots of experimenting going from both sides, I wouldn't read anything into it

[MonTheHoops]

What the hell was Kieran Murphy doing with those two attempts at points. Crazy angles - and to try it twice.

Gardiner was bullied alright.

[Ciotóg]

Will there be a few challenge games between now and the Clare match?

[Rebelred]

Will there be a few challenge games between now and the Clare match?
with seven weeks to go you'd assume there will be.

[Lamps]

What the hell was Kieran Murphy doing with those two attempts at points. Crazy angles - and to try it twice.

Gardiner was bullied alright.

if its the erins own version, don't get me started

[MonTheHoops]

if its the erins own version, don't get me started


No he's injured.

[Johnnyc]

I'm not overly worried about the Hurlers, they look like they may have found a forward or two who can hopefully do a job in the Summer. Thats all I was looking for out of the hurlers in the league.

Anyone see Eoin Kelly from Waterford going mad on the Offaly lad and pulling the shit out of him?? Hefty suspension I'd say.

The footballers league wasn't too good, at least they avoided the drop. They have been uninspiring really. There is potential in the team, ok they may be carrying one or two passengers, but if they got there shit together they can match most teams.I have to keep the faith anyway.

[Rebelred]

Anyone see Eoin Kelly from Waterford going mad on the Offaly lad and pulling the shit out of him?? Hefty suspension I'd say.

complete stupidity, he could well be out for the championship if he gets the proper punishment.

The footballers league wasn't too good, at least they avoided the drop. They have been uninspiring really. There is potential in the team, ok they may be carrying one or two passengers, but if they got there shit together they can match most teams.I have to keep the faith anyway.
We've said it on here before that the footballers are not that far off competing for the All Ireland.What they are definitely missing is a real leader in the forwards.Hayes and Gould are undoubtedly talented players but there's no Stephen O Neill,or even a Colin Corkery type player to lead the line.Masters is very inconsistent,as are O'Sullivan and McCarthy.The backs are good as a unit,look at how little they conceded in 7 league games.
The best thing that could happen Cork football this year is an u21 All Ireland

[Fat Tom]

I'm not overly worried about the Hurlers, they look like they may have found a forward or two who can hopefully do a job in the Summer. Thats all I was looking for out of the hurlers in the league.

Anyone see Eoin Kelly from Waterford going mad on the Offaly lad and pulling the shit out of him?? Hefty suspension I'd say.

The footballers league wasn't too good, at least they avoided the drop. They have been uninspiring really. There is potential in the team, ok they may be carrying one or two passengers, but if they got there shit together they can match most teams.I have to keep the faith anyway.

As I said lack scoring forwards - like ourselves bar Gooch at the moment.
And corner backs from Nemo are not good enough.
If Morgan parts with the loyalties and gives O'Connor a better run out and ye sort out the other corner ye have a chance.
Some excellent young players but overall ye have a lot of work to do yet.

[Lamps]

As I said lack scoring forwards - like ourselves bar Gooch at the moment.
And corner backs from Nemo are not good enough.
If Morgan parts with the loyalties and gives O'Connor a better run out and ye sort out the other corner ye have a chance.
Some excellent young players but overall ye have a lot of work to do yet.

nemo corner backs are nowhere near starting. shields/prout/oconnor all ahead of them. no problem at all in defence. as has been said, forward line is a problem. i have great hopes for goulding. definetley need a ball winner, gould and niblock are promising but won't dominate in intercounty as yet.
the limerick game is 50/50

[Johnnyc]

What about this idea of having Nicholas Murphy at full forward, or anywhere in the forwards for that matter?? He's played midfield since he was a young fella and he's been pretty good there in the last few years.

He is a great ball winner, maybe they could do with him on the edge of the square if Hurley and Kavanagh were solid in the middle??

[Lamps]

What about this idea of having Nicholas Murphy at full forward, or anywhere in the forwards for that matter?? He's played midfield since he was a young fella and he's been pretty good there in the last few years.

He is a great ball winner, maybe they could do with him on the edge of the square if Hurley and Kavanagh were solid in the middle??

no disrespect to dermot hurley but i don't think he's up to it. nick murph has to be midfield. my team for the championship

quirke
prout, canty, oconnor
nollaig,spillane,lyn ch
kav, murphy
mcmahon, niblock, mccarthy,
masters, gould, hayes


mid/def: shields,levis,Gmurph y
fwd subs : goulding,BJ,kevinosu llivan,clifford?

overall i don't think thats too weak a squad. not sure about niblock but i'd give him a chance.

[Rebelred]

no disrespect to dermot hurley but i don't think he's up to it. nick murph has to be midfield. my team for the championship

quirke
prout, canty, oconnor
nollaig,spillane,lyn ch
kav, murphy
mcmahon, niblock, mccarthy,
masters, gould, hayes


mid/def: shields,levis,Gmurph y
fwd subs : goulding,BJ,kevinosu llivan,clifford?

overall i don't think thats too weak a squad. not sure about niblock but i'd give him a chance.
thats about as strong as we're going to get realistically.
my only worry there is Spillane.

[Lamps]

thats about as strong as we're going to get realistically.
my only worry there is Spillane.

think he's done well in the league, but then again, the summer will be a huge step up. we've got the cover there anyway, lynch to the centre and shields or murphy to wing back. i'm worried that we have no heavy hitter for point scoring though. none of the half forwards chip in with more than a point or two. and the full forward line isn't exactly prolific looking

[Fat Tom]

nemo corner backs are nowhere near starting. shields/prout/oconnor all ahead of them. no problem at all in defence. as has been said, forward line is a problem. i have great hopes for goulding. definetley need a ball winner, gould and niblock are promising but won't dominate in intercounty as yet.
the limerick game is 50/50

Nah biy.
Limerick are gone way back.
Ye should beat them all right.
Gould is a class act in terms of ball winning and carrying.
He seems pretty intelligent on it too but he isn't a scorer of note.
Haven't seen too much of Goulding.
He gave Tom a good roasting in the league but most forwards do at this time of year; he isn't beaten too easily in the Summer.
Shields is a great prospect but a fella from our own club gave him a cracking game at schools level and he is only on the fringes of the Kerry senior panel.
I'd worry for Cork if they are reliant on Hayes - Ronán Hussey who is barely on the Kerry bench looked a better player for UCC.
These guys won't get the better of backs from Tyrone or Armagh as of yet.
Its been our problem too - only Gooch is capable of it as of yet.
Declan sullivan hasn't been doing it for us.
I'd worry for Cork too if ye come up against one of those two cause of Conor MacCarthy. He slows down the play too much.
Kerry are culprits for this too - against Tyrone you need to release the ball quick before they have time to recupriate or else your forwards have no hope.

Saying that I think Cork will be stronger this year especially if Morgan leaves club loyalties aside and goes for O'Connor and Prout.
At that I still think neither will get the better of Cooper.
Canty sweeping up the supply is yer best hope.
It'll be a Munster final in Killarney between the old rivals this year.
Lets just hope the weather is better than '02

[Fat Tom]

think he's done well in the league, but then again, the summer will be a huge step up. we've got the cover there anyway, lynch to the centre and shields or murphy to wing back. i'm worried that we have no heavy hitter for point scoring though. none of the half forwards chip in with more than a point or two. and the full forward line isn't exactly prolific looking

We have the same problem.
If you have a working half forward line of passers more than scorers then you need some men who can win 50-50 even 40-60 ball inside, take on their man and score. Kerry have only one who would do that against a top team on current form but we have a few potentials. I'd imagine Cork are in the same boat minus a Gooch.

[Fat Tom]

no disrespect to dermot hurley but i don't think he's up to it. nick murph has to be midfield. my team for the championship

quirke
prout, canty, oconnor
nollaig,spillane,lyn ch
kav, murphy
mcmahon, niblock, mccarthy,
masters, gould, hayes


mid/def: shields,levis,Gmurph y
fwd subs : goulding,BJ,kevinosu llivan,clifford?

overall i don't think thats too weak a squad. not sure about niblock but i'd give him a chance.

Think thats as strong as ye'll get but overall I don't think ye'll have enough to topple us this year. Only worry for me is our lack of competitive action before we face ye. Waterford and Tipp are hopeless warm up games.

[Lamps]

Think thats as strong as ye'll get but overall I don't think ye'll have enough to topple us this year. Only worry for me is our lack of competitive action before we face ye. Waterford and Tipp are hopeless warm up games.

i would give cork about a 1 in 8 chance of winning in killarney this year. i'll be there more in hope than anything. a gooch injury is our best bet.

[Fat Tom]

i would give cork about a 1 in 8 chance of winning in killarney this year. i'll be there more in hope than anything. a gooch injury is our best bet.

If we lose him for a big game I wouldn't even bother going.
It'd be a waste of money.
Our boys have taken a lot of criticism for how good they are outside Gooch - they had a big chance to show it at the weekend and bottled it.
The boy after his father dying during the week had to come on and he played a blinder.Put the rest of the eejits to shame.

MFR is gone. And our manager persists with a South Kerry man (Ronán O Connor) who isn't good enough for the Kerry junior team.
Our full forward line outside gooch at the moment is awful.
Declan Sullivan never stays there. And the best free take in the country (Sheahan) is left on the bench.
Its madness.
Mike Mac broke his hand but at least we got Seamus back to replace him as our other bench options aren't the best.
We are lucky Paul Galvin had his ban cut short. He is playing super stuff.

[BlueSkies]

What ye make of Conor Cusack? I've seen him playing for Cloyne, good in the air but not quite up to the high standard of Cork forwards? Still haven't been to a game this year, goddammit I hate studying.

[Lamps]

What ye make of Conor Cusack? I've seen him playing for Cloyne, good in the air but not quite up to the high standard of Cork forwards? Still haven't been to a game this year, goddammit I hate studying.

don't think he's up to it. no offence to the lad.

[Johnnyc]

i would give cork about a 1 in 8 chance of winning in killarney this year. i'll be there more in hope than anything. a gooch injury is our best bet.

ah no I'd give us a better chance than that. A derby game, think of the last few years, we are stronger this year I think and we have run them close the last few years even with a so called poor team. That's the thing with derby games it helps to level the playing fields. I wouldn't wish injury on any player so hopefully both teams are at full strength and the Gooch has an off day, that's all it would take for Cork to sneak it in my opinion. Cork have one big game in them every year. Hopefully we get the weather of 2000 and the result of 99.

[Lamps]

ah no I'd give us a better chance than that. A derby game, think of the last few years, we are stronger this year I think and we have run them close the last few years even with a so called poor team. That's the thing with derby games it helps to level the playing fields. I wouldn't wish injury on any player so hopefully both teams are at full strength and the Gooch has an off day, that's all it would take for Cork to sneak it in my opinion. Cork have one big game in them every year. Hopefully we get the weather of 2000 and the result of 99.

i let myself think this when we met kerry on both occasions in croke park recently only to get hammered out the gate on both occasions. i was sick in the stomach for about a week afterwards. this time i'm preparing for the worst, whatever happens will be a bonus. its easy to convince oneself when viewing the teams on paper, but cork seem lack cohesiveness in their football once on the pitch.

another thing i've noticed is the huge amount of injuries or injury prone players we seem to have. has billy once this year or last had a full squad to pick from. masters,lynch,canty, muprhy,kavanagh,BJ,c lifford to name but some always seem to be struggling with something

[Johnnyc]

I HATE LOSING TO KERRY, IF THERE IS ONE TEAM I HATE LOSING TO IT'S KERRY.
Thats why I have to believe we can beat them.

[Rebelred]

What ye make of Conor Cusack? I've seen him playing for Cloyne, good in the air but not quite up to the high standard of Cork forwards? Still haven't been to a game this year, goddammit I hate studying.
good player at club level,where his strength and size make him an awkward man to man,just ask sars after last year! Is he up to intercounty standard,probably not,but a fine player all the same

[Fat Tom]

ah no I'd give us a better chance than that. A derby game, think of the last few years, we are stronger this year I think and we have run them close the last few years even with a so called poor team. That's the thing with derby games it helps to level the playing fields. I wouldn't wish injury on any player so hopefully both teams are at full strength and the Gooch has an off day, that's all it would take for Cork to sneak it in my opinion. Cork have one big game in them every year. Hopefully we get the weather of 2000 and the result of 99.

Firstly its in Killarney which should improve our chances and secondly the part in bold is very unlikely to happen.
Like I said there is a certain tactic to limit him and Cork will have to employ it to very good effect if they are to have any hope.
Yer lack of scoring forwards is a big worry plus I don't think Morgan is the right man to have in charge.
He's borderline insane and obsessed with beating Kerry.
It ain't healthy.

[Johnnyc]

He's borderline insane and obsessed with beating Kerry.


That suits me fine if we win. Every player can have his off day. Anyway even if he plays well ye can't afford to carry the rest of the forwards.

[Fat Tom]

That suits me fine if we win. Every player can have his off day. Anyway even if he plays well ye can't afford to carry the rest of the forwards.

He did in nearly every game last year and in the league this year.
I think ye need someone more tactically adept that Morgan if ye wanna win.
He's old school and clearly blinded by a hatred for Kerry.

[BangorFeen]

I HATE LOSING TO KERRY, IF THERE IS ONE TEAM I HATE LOSING TO IT'S KERRY.
Thats why I have to believe we can beat them.
I don't think I've been to a single Cork v Kerry game where Cork have won

[Johnnyc]

I don't think I've been to a single Cork v Kerry game where Cork have won

So you're the jinx on the team.

[Fat Tom]

So you're the jinx on the team.

He Must have missed 2002.
And 99.
I can't really remember our famine years thank god.

[Rebelred]

I don't think I've been to a single Cork v Kerry game where Cork have won
2002 replay was the last time I saw it,even that night kerry were in no form,Paidis brother,father to 4 or 5 of the kerry squad,had just died.
99 in the pissing rain down the park was the last time we beat them besides that.
Killarneys always a great day out for the match though

[Fat Tom]

2002 replay was the last time I saw it,even that night kerry were in no form,Paidis brother,father to 4 or 5 of the kerry squad,had just died.
99 in the pissing rain down the park was the last time we beat them besides that.
Killarneys always a great day out for the match though

Unreal in 02.
Worst weather ever.
But Ireland Vs Spain on the box, the Kerry Cork game and a mad piss up in town after getting drenched on the hill.

[Johnnyc]

He Must have missed 2002.
And 99.
I can't really remember our famine years thank god.

I was at them thank god. I remember a few good days in the early to mid nighties as a small fella. We could win in Killarney and everything in them days!!

[Johnnyc]

Unreal in 02.
Worst weather ever.
But Ireland Vs Spain on the box, the Kerry Cork game and a mad piss up in town after getting drenched on the hill.

Some piss up that day alright, I remember it well, got so wet though.

In fairness I really do look forward to the weekends in Killarney, some craic.

[Fat Tom]

Some piss up that day alright, I remember it well, got so wet though.

In fairness I really do look forward to the weekends in Killarney, some craic.

Unreal.
Should be a good one this Summer provided ye beat Limerick and we don't do a '92 on it.

[BangorFeen]

So you're the jinx on the team.
It would appear so... 1992 was my first Cork v Kerry game. We lost. My teacher at the time was a Kerryman. Oh how I suffered the following Monday...

I was playing a gig in town the night of the 2002 replay (Sunday evening IIRC?). We had a couple pf Kerry fellas in later. Given the circumstances you couldn't really gloat

[Johnnyc]

It would appear so... 1992 was my first Cork v Kerry game. We lost. My teacher at the time was a Kerryman. Oh how I suffered the following Monday...

I was playing a gig in town the night of the 2002 replay (Sunday evening IIRC?). We had a couple pf Kerry fellas in later. Given the circumstances you couldn't really gloat

Think it was A saturday, I was there but I'm pretty sure it was a Saturday.

[Fat Tom]

It would appear so... 1992 was my first Cork v Kerry game. We lost. My teacher at the time was a Kerryman. Oh how I suffered the following Monday...

I was playing a gig in town the night of the 2002 replay (Sunday evening IIRC?). We had a couple pf Kerry fellas in later. Given the circumstances you couldn't really gloat

Yeah the one year we manage to beat Cork and off we go and lose to fucking Clare like!

[Rebelred]

Think it was A saturday, I was there but I'm pretty sure it was a Saturday.
it was a sunday night at half 7 or some stupid time.which resulted in 5* kerry fans travelling to the game.couldn't blame them though,long old spin back to Dingle and places of a similar distance at that hour on a sunday night.


* approx figure

[Johnnyc]

it was a sunday night at half 7 or some stupid time.which resulted in 5* kerry fans travelling to the game.couldn't blame them though,long old spin back to Dingle and places of a similar distance at that hour on a sunday night.


* approx figure

oh ya it was the evenin that's why I thought it was a Saturday. Anyway sorry for hijacking the hurling thread, I went off in a tangent, I felt the footballers needed more of my attention for a day.

I feel the hurlers are definitely equipped to do the three in a row but it may need a "Shock" in Munster for them to get the hunger to have a cut off it.