Arsenal v Liverpool

[Jim Comic]

Reina,

Kromkamp, Finnan, Hyypia, Gerrard, Garcia, Alonso, Crouch, Hamann, Carragher, Warnock.

Subs - Dudek, Kewell, Fowler, Morientes, Traore.

[Jim Comic]

1-0 (henry)

[Jim Comic]

1-1 (garcia)

[Jim Comic]

alonso sent off (2nd yellow)

[Jim Comic]

2-1 (henry)

[storysham]

alonso sent off (2nd yellow)

fucking retard, hes on my FF team.

Im transfering him right now

[Jim Comic]

ft: 2-1

[Out da Lough Like]

And yet again Gerrard show us why Liverpool have failed to win a title since the back pass was abolished.......


And Arsenal should break the bank to hold on to Henry, the man is a genius:

http://i2.tinypic.com/r9mjut.jpg

[Langer Dan]

heh heh heh.

Liverpool's charge for fourth continues unabated.

[Diego Murphy]

it'll be interesting to see what happens with Benitez. The Real president will want to make an impact and that could be the way he does it by signing benitez

[Jim Comic]

after the reds results recently they might not want him anymore

[Sound]

Capello is going to Real.

Factorama.

[Del]

Capello is going to Real.

Factorama.

wasn't he there before?

[Aphex]

who hasn't been there? lol

[Del]

who hasn't been there? lol

Me, Mick McCarthy and probably Brian Kerr although I'm not too sure about him ;)

[bricktop]

i'd like to thank steven gerrard for gifting us 2nd place.
fair play

[Fat Tom]

Very Negative with only Crouch up front.
Poor Performance by the pool and only for the linesman they could have been caught for a few more.
Fabregas ran the show and I dunno what Benitez was doing with Gerrard out left and then right. They need him in the middle.
I said it last week and I'll say it again - is it just me or is Alonso playing piss poor lately?

Carragher and Hyypia were exposed by Henrys pace and Cesc putting the ball into space brilliantly.

Bad mistake by Gerrard but the result was a fair one.

[Teknique]

is it just me or is Alonso playing piss poor lately?




Its just you - IMO he had his best game in a while yesterday

[Fat Tom]

Its just you - IMO he had his best game in a while yesterday

i thought he was awful.
Fabregas ran the show and was by far the best midfielder on show.

[STEVIEG]

Fabregas tormented him for the whole game
Liverpool miss Sissouko badly
Asenal showed them up and should have put the game to bed earlier cause liverpool could have went on and won it once they scored
The sending off was a joke

[Fat Tom]

Fabregas tormented him for the whole game
Liverpool miss Sissouko badly
Asenal showed them up and should have put the game to bed earlier cause liverpool could have went on and won it once they scored
The sending off was a joke

Yeah.
but they got a goal from a bad decision too.
Plus Garcia could have walked for that lunge on Henry.

[homer jay]

Very Negative with only Crouch up front.
Poor Performance by the pool and only for the linesman they could have been caught for a few more.
Fabregas ran the show and I dunno what Benitez was doing with Gerrard out left and then right. They need him in the middle.
I said it last week and I'll say it again - is it just me or is Alonso playing piss poor lately?

Carragher and Hyypia were exposed by Henrys pace and Cesc putting the ball into space brilliantly.

Bad mistake by Gerrard but the result was a fair one.

yeah, poor performance from liverpool, can't argue with the result. was warnock wearing runners or something yesterday, spent half the day sliding and falling over. krompkamp looks to be worse than josemi.

[STEVIEG]

Yeah.
but they got a goal from a bad decision too.



Maybe, i didn't think it was a foul though the Arsenal player went down to easily

[Fat Tom]

Maybe, i didn't think it was a foul though the Arsenal player went down to easily

You've been watching the Premiership far too long!!

[Fat Tom]

yeah, poor performance from liverpool, can't argue with the result. was warnock wearing runners or something yesterday, spent half the day sliding and falling over. krompkamp looks to be worse than josemi.

Warnock is very poor.
Ye need a good left back really. Someone to compete with Riise.
Garcia is a mockery but he got a goal again.
Crouch missed a sitter of a header.
But Liverpool lost to by far the better team.

[STEVIEG]

You've been watching the Premiership far too long!!


Na, it was Fabregas again i think, and he jsut fell to the ground.
Souness got it right when talking about Viera after
Yes, he isn't missed in the open football games
But when teams mix it up
That's when Arsenal still miss the physical side of Viera, who could play ball when Arse wanted to pay ball
arsenal are coming right into form but i nearly broke my bollox laughing the other day when Sky were discussing the Champs league draw, and said in all sincerity, arse's midfield is better than Juve's
Sure it is

[Fat Tom]

In an open game they are probably more creative but overall better no.
But fuck me they can play ball.
They'd be unreal in Spain.
Fabregas is class and he was unintenionally knocked from behind - its still a free.
Vieira, Emerson, Nedved and Camoranesi should be too strong for them.
Hleb is coming into form though and looked good yesterday.
Think Ibrahimovic and Trezeguet's height will be the problem though.

[homer jay]

arsenal are coming right into form but i nearly broke my bollox laughing the other day when Sky were discussing the Champs league draw, and said in all sincerity, arse's midfield is better than Juve's
Sure it is

ah yes, sky, the tabloid of the television world. you should know better than to listen to those pricks stevie

[STEVIEG]

ah yes, sky, the tabloid of the television world. you should know better than to listen to those pricks stevie

Punditry is always to be taken with a pinch of salt

[Sound]

Alonso was poor alright. Sissoko's physicality is really being missed in the middle. It contributed to the defense being shaky as well. Crouch would want a kick up the hole for missing that free header- piss poor. There was nothing wrong with the equalizer IMO, he pure went looking for the free. Red for Garcia? It was a tackle out of frustration but not even in the vicinity of a red. The sending off was pretty ridiculous and I can only assume that the ref was on the wrong side. The less said about Gerrard's assist the better.

Poor as it was lets not go overboard. Aresenal very nearly did a Liverpool on it yesterday.i.e. created a load of chances without putting the game away. Plus Liverpool gave them a chasing on Valentine's day without relly pressing the point home. Liverpool really, really need to beat Fulham now to arrest the slide.

[Fat Tom]

Alonso was poor alright. Sissoko's physicality is really being missed in the middle. It contributed to the defense being shaky as well. Crouch would want a kick up the hole for missing that free header- piss poor. There was nothing wrong with the equalizer IMO, he pure went looking for the free. Red for Garcia? It was a tackle out of frustration but not even in the vicinity of a red. The sending off was pretty ridiculous and I can only assume that the ref was on the wrong side. The less said about Gerrard's assist the better.

Poor as it was lets not go overboard. Aresenal very nearly did a Liverpool on it yesterday.i.e. created a load of chances without putting the game away. Plus Liverpool gave them a chasing on Valentine's day without relly pressing the point home. Liverpool really, really need to beat Fulham now to arrest the slide.

Is it at Craven Cottage or Anfield?
If its at Anfield its a banker.

On the red - see Ronaldo Vs City and Robben Last weekend.
Not saying its right.

[Teknique]

Is it at Craven Cottage or Anfield?
If its at Anfield its a banker.

Anfield
Fullam are attrocious away from home this Season

[Fat Tom]

Anfield
Fullam are attrocious away from home this Season

thats why i said its a banker.

[homer jay]

Anfield
Fullam are attrocious away from home this Season

cue the 'holding out for a nil all draw' headlines the following day.

[Fat Tom]

One begins to wonder whether common sense has been lost from football following Xabi Alonso's sending off against Arsenal.

The Spanish midfielder was harshly dismissed by referee Steve Bennett after collecting a second booking for crashing into Mathieu Flamini after losing his footing.

Alonso was skating on thin ice after being booked minutes earlier for catching Cesc Fabregas, but his second challenge did not warrant earning another yellow.

The skilful midfielder tried to chase down his loose pass to Robbie Fowler although in attempting to close down Flamini he slipped and fell into the midfielder.

Alonso attempted to apologise to Flamini, but Philippe Senderos believed his actions were deliberate and called for Bennett to give the midfielder his marching orders.

Arsenal have already been called into question this week over their lack of home-grown players and Senderos' actions hardly gives a good impression of foreign imports.

A game at Highbury a number of years ago involved David Seaman bringing down Robbie Fowler in the penalty area only for the striker to inform the official it was not a penalty.

Fair play and respect for fellow professionals also appears to be disappearing from the game as Alonso's protests to Bennett fell on deaf ears.

Bennett, much to Alonso's dismay, produced a second yellow card leaving Liverpool to see out the remainder of the contest a man light.

Anyone at the ground or watching the game on Sky could clearly see Alonso had no intention of bringing down Flamini - yet he still saw red.

Tackle aside, Alonso's character should also come into consideration being a player without a red card to his name in England following his move from La Liga.

The red card changed the game, although a poor decision from Steven Gerrard left Thierry Henry with just Jose Reina to beat after seizing on a woeful back pass.

Liverpool had fought back superbly with Luis Garcia cancelling out Henry's first half opener, although they left Highbury with nothing following Henry's late winner

[STEVIEG]

Arsenal have already been called into question this week over their lack of home-grown players and Senderos' actions hardly gives a good impression of foreign imports.




More bullshit racism from the English press

Yes, the sending off was a joke
Yes, Senderos behaved badly

But what the fuck has it got to do with his nationality?

[Fat Tom]

More bullshit racism from the English press

Yes, the sending off was a joke
Yes, Senderos behaved badly

But what the fuck has it got to do with his nationality?

And as if players from other clubs wouldn't do the same.
Bullshit.

[Teknique]

cue the 'holding out for a nil all draw' headlines the following day.

Tony Warner - Man of the Match ?

[homer jay]

Tony Warner - Man of the Match ?

i'm sure he got motm for the game at craven cottage. but if liverpool are good at one thing, its making the opposition keepers look good. they even managed it for that clown in the benfica goal ffs

[Fat Tom]

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez was hugely disappointed with Xabi Alonso's controversial dismissal in the 2-1 defeat at Arsenal on Sunday.

The Reds appeared to be on top when Alonso was sent from the field of play for a 'foul' on Mathieu Flamini.

The Spanish schemer appeared extremely hard done to, as he slipped on the Highbury turf and slid into Flamini.

Replays appeared to suggest that referee Steve Bennett had not witnessed the incident and it was this which upset Benitez the most.

"It is a big mistake from the referee," Benitez told Sky Sports News.

"He was not watching the play and he decided too quick to show the yellow card - it's a big mistake.

"Maybe he should watch the video and we will have another idea."

Liverpool conceded shortly after Alonso's dismissal and Benitez is in no doubts that the red card changed the game.

"It was clear, we were controlling the game, going forward and creating chances, then to play with ten players is difficult against a good team."

Steven Gerrard's mis-placed backpass gifted Arsenal victory, but Benitez refused to blame his captain.

"It's maybe bad luck because he (Gerrard) could not see the other player (Henry).

"We are all disappointed but the most important thing is the team. It is one mistake, it is not a problem of one player it is the team, we will not talk about individuals."

Liverpool now trail Manchester United by five points and have played a game more than their rivals, but Benitez says they will not give up the chase for second place.

"We play again in three days (against Fulham) and we have a lot more games to play, so we must keep going," added the Spanish tactician.


For fuck sake, we all complain about Mourinho but that too is over the top.
Arsenal were by far the better side and but for a poor ref decision ye wouldn't have scored and but for the linesman the Gunners would have had 2 great goalscoring opportunities to win it.

[homer jay]

For fuck sake, we all complain about Mourinho but that too is over the top.
Arsenal were by far the better side and but for a poor ref decision ye wouldn't have scored and but for the linesman the Gunners would have had 2 great goalscoring opportunities to win it.

he means after liverpool scored, they were in more control of the game at that point. i don't think anyone can argue arsenal weren't the better team yesterday.

[Fat Tom]

Not Stevie G anyway -

"It was a stupid mistake that has stopped us from robbing a point because we did not play at all," said the man who is usually Liverpool's saviour.

[Sound]

For fuck sake, we all complain about Mourinho but that too is over the top.
Arsenal were by far the better side and but for a poor ref decision ye wouldn't have scored and but for the linesman the Gunners would have had 2 great goalscoring opportunities to win it.

There was nothing wrong with the decision.

[dotty]

There was nothing wrong with the decision.

too lazy to read the whole thread but rafas seems to have a problem with the sending off - i didnt see the game or even highlights but i saw the alonso challenge and to be fair if you're on a yellow card and you go in like he did you're asking for trouble,ref didnt have a choice,what is it exactly that upset rafa?

[General Michael Collins]

Fabregas tormented him for the whole game
Liverpool miss Sissouko badly
Asenal showed them up and should have put the game to bed earlier cause liverpool could have went on and won it once they scored
The sending off was a joke
Alonsos sending off was a disgrace.While arsenal were the better team for most of the match,once LFC scored they were well on top and could have gone on to win it.Bennet wasnt even looking at the incident and only gave him a card because of the crowd roaring.And to all the earlier posters having a dig at gerrard,one mistake dosnt turn him into a poor player.he may not help them to win a league,but he most certainly delivered in the biggest club game in the world last may.

[Sound]

too lazy to read the whole thread but rafas seems to have a problem with the sending off - i didnt see the game or even highlights but i saw the alonso challenge and to be fair if you're on a yellow card and you go in like he did you're asking for trouble,ref didnt have a choice,what is it exactly that upset rafa?

On the replay Alonso stumbles rather than tackles him.

[dotty]

Alonsos sending off was a disgrace.While arsenal were the better team for most of the match,once LFC scored they were well on top and could have gone on to win it.Bennet wasnt even looking at the incident and only gave him a card because of the crowd roaring.And to all the earlier posters having a dig at gerrard,one mistake dosnt turn him into a poor player.he may not help them to win a league,but he most certainly delivered in the biggest club game in the world last may.

if the ref didnt see it surely one of his assistants did,it was still the right decision.

[Langer Dan]

Alonsos sending off was a disgrace.While arsenal were the better team for most of the match,once LFC scored they were well on top and could have gone on to win it.Bennet wasnt even looking at the incident and only gave him a card because of the crowd roaring.And to all the earlier posters having a dig at gerrard,one mistake dosnt turn him into a poor player.he may not help them to win a league,but he most certainly delivered in the biggest club game in the world last may.

I agree, twas abeautiful set up by Stevie G. Such vision, he split the defence with an immaculate pass, if only he could remember which way he's playing.

[dotty]

On the replay Alonso stumbles rather than tackles him.

oh right,as i said was only passing the tv and there was a report on the match on sky news so only saw a replay of the "challenge",justified sending off so in your opinion sound?

[dotty]

I agree, twas abeautiful set up by Stevie G. Such vision, he split the defence with an immaculate pass, if only he could remember which way he's playing.

press would have had a field day had it happened against chelsea!

[General Michael Collins]

if the ref didnt see it surely one of his assistants did,it was still the right decision.
How could it be the right decision.The only reason he made contact with him was because he slipped and stumbled into him.Anyway referees decisions are supposed to even themselves out over a season.Heres hoping LFC get a couple of dubious decisions in there favour on the run in.

[Langer Dan]

How could it be the right decision.The only reason he made contact with him was because he slipped and stumbled into him.Anyway referees decisions are supposed to even themselves out over a season.Heres hoping LFC get a couple of dubious decisions in there favour on the run in.

Mourinho quality blinkers there.

[Sound]

oh right,as i said was only passing the tv and there was a report on the match on sky news so only saw a replay of the "challenge",justified sending off so in your opinion sound?

No definitely not and the whole Sky panel said as much. The ref was on the wrong side and didn't see what happened. Earrah these things happen, it didn't influence the outcome much and Arsenal would have been mugged if Liverpool had snatched the draw.

[General Michael Collins]

Mourinho quality blinkers there.
Think youll find that i said in an earlier post in this thread that arsenal were the better team for most of the match,something that the "special gomb" would never admit to!!

[dotty]

No definitely not and the whole Sky panel said as much. The ref was on the wrong side and didn't see what happened. Earrah these things happen, it didn't influence the outcome much and Arsenal would have been mugged if Liverpool had snatched the draw.

yep take back what i said,just saw the challenge again and i now see why rafa was so upset it was very harsh.still though at least i didnt have him in my ff team.

[Out da Lough Like]

he most certainly delivered in the biggest club game in the world last may.


It's great to see Liverpool supporters reverting to bringing up the past again.


Everything seems to be getting back to normal: Chelsea flatter to deceive, Arsenal are playing extremely attractive football, Liverpool are playing negative football and living on former glories and Manchester United are starting to look like they can put together a decent team after all....


I wonder what the future holds.


:)

[Fat Tom]

No definitely not and the whole Sky panel said as much. The ref was on the wrong side and didn't see what happened. Earrah these things happen, it didn't influence the outcome much and Arsenal would have been mugged if Liverpool had snatched the draw.

Yeah. Bad Decision from ref.
Gerrard and Alonso as bad as it gets (yesterday!)

[Fat Tom]

I agree, twas abeautiful set up by Stevie G. Such vision, he split the defence with an immaculate pass, if only he could remember which way he's playing.

See a player of Gerrard's quality always looks for a World Class Striker with a through ball.
He was so sick of his own useless fuckers he decided to thread through the one man he knew could do a job in front of goal.
What a ball!
Caught Super Jamie totally flat footed and Henry rounded it off with a perfect finish.

[Sound]

See a player of Gerrard's quality always looks for a World Class Striker with a through ball.
He was so sick of his own useless fuckers he decided to thread through the one man he knew could do a job in front of goal.
What a ball!
Caught Super Jamie totally flat footed and Henry rounded it off with a perfect finish.

Well, if ever the board wanted a reminder of what he can do with a world class striker to play in....

And it was asking a fair bit of the worlds most under-rated defender. TM

[Fat Tom]

And it was asking a fair bit of the worlds most under-rated defender. TM

Djimmi Traore?

[Sound]

Djimmi Traore?

As good as it gets?

[Teknique]

Djimmi Traore?

or Djimmi Crazy Legs as he's known on Mersyside

[Fat Tom]

As good as it gets?

I dunno, Warnock would have given him a run for his money on Sunday.

[Sound]

I dunno, Warnock would have given him a run for his money on Sunday.

Lets not go nuts. Warnock can be slightly ropey rather than a guaranteed liability like Djimi. He's young and improving rather than getting worse. He's adequate cover for Riise IMO.

[Fat Tom]

Lets not go nuts. Warnock can be slightly ropey rather than a guaranteed liability like Djimi. He's young and improving rather than getting worse. He's adequate cover for Riise IMO.

True. I said yesterday.
He was poor - I'm not in the habbit of knocking young players, notice my constant defence of the Fletch.

[shammy feen]

Alonsos sending off was the wrong decision....I'd say that yellow will be recinded....

but...

There was an obvious foul on the Arsenal player in the build up to Louis garcias goal which the ref didnt give...which was also the wrong decision....

Swings and merry-go-rounds...

[ho chi feen]

More bullshit racism from the English press

Yes, the sending off was a joke
Yes, Senderos behaved badly

But what the fuck has it got to do with his nationality?


Indeed.

FFS.

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[ho chi feen]

How could it be the right decision.

Is that a question, or a statement?

Heres hoping LFC get a couple of dubious decisions in there favour on the run in.

It's "Here's" and "their".

*sigh*

[Fat Tom]

Is that a question, or a statement?



It's "Here's" and "their".

*sigh*

You ahould have said:

Are you Boxoid?
Are you Boxoid?
Are you Boxoid in Disguise?
Are you Boxoid in Disguise?

[ho chi feen]

You ahould have said:

Are you Boxoid?
Are you Boxoid?
Are you Boxoid in Disguise?
Are you Boxoid in Disguise?


heh heh heh

[Superdave]

Alonsos sending off was the wrong decision....I'd say that yellow will be recinded....

but...

There was an obvious foul on the Arsenal player in the build up to Louis garcias goal which the ref didnt give...which was also the wrong decision....

Swings and merry-go-rounds...


can yellows be rescinded though? i'm pretty sure only red cards can be appealed. If it was a double booking can they appeal the red card as the first yellow was deserved and therefore only the second yellow can be appealed.....

????

[ho chi feen]

can yellows be rescinded though? i'm pretty sure only red cards can be appealed.

I'm pretty sure you're 100% correct there.

[Superdave]

I'm pretty sure you're 100% correct there.


bit of common sense wouldn't go amiss if this is the case. it's quite obvious he slipped for the second card. That sending off has definitely lost us the league this year!

[Del]

bit of common sense wouldn't go amiss if this is the case. it's quite obvious he slipped for the second card. That sending off has definitely lost us the league this year!

The way Smith's injury has cost United the league? ;)

[STEVIEG]

can yellows be rescinded though? i'm pretty sure only red cards can be appealed. If it was a double booking can they appeal the red card as the first yellow was deserved and therefore only the second yellow can be appealed.....

????


Yeah that's another joke about the rules
Alonso's sending off was a mistake
and it should be sorted out
Simple
But the rules are a joke

[General Michael Collins]

It's great to see Liverpool supporters reverting to bringing up the past again.


Everything seems to be getting back to normal: Chelsea flatter to deceive, Arsenal are playing extremely attractive football, Liverpool are playing negative football and living on former glories and Manchester United are starting to look like they can put together a decent team after all....


I wonder what the future holds.


:)
As regards bringing up the past,what are you on about? LFC are the current champions of europe and will be till next may,so how is that bringing up the past.Also on your point of chelsea flattering to deceive how do you make that one out?They are currently 15 points ahead of Utd and on the verge of winning back to back league titles.

[ho chi feen]

As regards bringing up the past,what are you on about? LFC are the current champions of europe and will be till next may,so how is that bringing up the past.Also on your point of chelsea flattering to deceive how do you make that one out?They are currently 15 points ahead of Utd and on the verge of winning back to back league titles.

Wahey! Dumbo's finally figured out that the trusty old question mark can help differentiate between afirmitive and interrogative statements. Shame he's still thicker than bottled pig-shit.