Benfica Vs Liverpool - Build Up

[Philby]

Koeman gets his $0.02 in early

Koeman Forecasts More English Doom (http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/)10/02/06
Benfica manager Ronald Koeman gone out on a limb to predict that both Chelsea and Liverpool will go the way of Manchester United in the first knockout round of the Champions League.

The former Barcelona championship hero helped oversee the demise of the Red Devils during group play and sees no reason why the Portuguese champs can’t claim another Premiership scalp in Liverpool.

“Why not? We eliminated Manchester United and so we can do the same to Liverpool,” he told Sport. “The bad thing is that we have to play the second leg at Anfield because it’s a very imposing stadium.”

Adding fuel to the fire, Koeman also foretold Barca revenge against Jose Mourinho’s Blues.

“There are two things that lead me to believe that the azulgranas (Barca) are superior,” he explained. “Above all, Barca have learned from what happened last year at Stamford Bridge.”

“Secondly, because the return leg will be at Camp Nou, whatever the score the crowd will lift the players.”

http://www.soccer365.com/EUROPEAN_NEWS/Rest_of_Europe/page_109_114933.shtm l

[Lamps]

Champions League is where it's at. You'd think the FA Cup was a big deal the way some are going on about.
I think Benfica may spring a surprise, can't see where the Liverpool goals will come from
Chelsea have a game on their hands but the pitch should be a great leveller.

[Fat Tom]

Tough game for Chelsea regardless of the pitch.
Back 4 look more suspect than usual, a score draw would be a massive result for Barca.
The Champions League is where the defensive minded teams come into their own and for this reason you'd have to give Chelsea a great chance.

As for the Pool they should have enough in midfield to overcome Benfica but again its hard to see where the goals will come from.

[Teknique]

too early

revisit Monday Morning

[Rebelred]

http://www.mortar.org.uk/images/pic_tarmac_manwall.j pg
too early for build up?with cup match sat?

[dotty]

think liverpool will see off benfica comfortably,will get a scoreless draw in portugal and look after them at anfield,benfica are no great shakes united were just piss poor against them (both games!).

[Superdave]

it's good to hear Koeman speaking like this though. Makes it a bit easier to keep the players minds focused. we really should see this lot off. fancy barca to do Chelsea too.

[Philby]

My prediction, not a classic.

Benfica 0
Liverpool 1

[Captain Planet]

My prediction, not a classic.

Benfica 0
Liverpool 1
garcia aswell

[Jim Comic]

gerrard on the bench, slight knee problem

[Jim Comic]

Liverpool line up as follows:
*
Reina
*
Finann
Carragher
Hyypia
Riise
*
Garcia
Sissoko
Alonso
Kewell
*
Morientes
Fowler
*
Subs:
*
Dudek
Gerrard
Cisse
Crouch
Hamann
Traore
Warnock

[Jim Comic]

half time in all the c.l. games tonight was 0-0 except in munich where the home boys are 1 up on milan

[Jim Comic]

current scores


Bayern Munich 1-1 AC Milan
Benfica 0-0 LIVERPOOL
PSV 0-1 Lyon
Real Madrid 0-1 ARSENAL

[Jim Comic]

1-0 to benfica

[Jim Comic]

ft: benfica 1 -0 liverpool

[Jim Comic]

FULL-TIME PSV Eindhoven 0-1 Lyon

FULL-TIME Bayern Munich 1-1 AC Milan

[Jim Comic]

ft: real madrid 0 - 1 arsenal

[ho chi feen]

What the fuck was Gerrard on the bench for?

[Superdave]

he had a slight knock from saturday. decided to rest him.

[STEVIEG]

Watched the Arse game missed this
The interesting thing is that if Liverpool repeat United's home result against them they will go out on away goals but i can't see it happening
The European Champions will surely pulverise them at home

[Out da Lough Like]

http://i1.tinypic.com/o9em3t.jpg


Luisao You Beauty!


Heh heh heh.....

[xvis]

it's always well dodgy if you don't get one away goal

[Teknique]

We went with what was for Liverpool a fairly attacking line-up , I dont think that was the reason we lost tho

A slip in concentration was all really , we looked the better side and should take this crowd in 2 weeks

Any word on Momo?

[Fat Tom]

Watched the Arse game missed this
The interesting thing is that if Liverpool repeat United's home result against them they will go out on away goals but i can't see it happening
The European Champions will surely pulverise them at home

Will they though?
Liverpool aren't exactly renowned for scoring lots of goals.
It'll be tough, Benfica are no mugs.

If Liverpool don't score early it will be very tough.
We all know what antics the Portugese will get up to.

I thought Liverpool were poor for the 65 mins I saw last night.
Even pre goal they gave the ball away an awful lot.
Sissoko was a loss when he went off.

Fowler looked hopeless but the supply was worse.

I had to laugh when one of the TV3 commentators said he didn't understand why Kewell went down on the end line for his free instead of continuing on.

I was like sure we all know the Pool strikers can't score from play - so he was better off from the set piece.

Hyppia or Finnan might have stuck it in.

[Rebelred]

he had a slight knock from saturday. decided to rest him.
must have been injured in one of Darren Fletchers ferocious tackles.Pool deserved a result last night in fairness,but well worked free kick.Although Rafa wasn't happy with it,said they'd seen them do it twice before,so lack of concentration there perhaps

[Fat Tom]

Its strange though - for a class defensive team Lverpool are conceding all their goals from set plays.

Chelsea, Man U, Benfica in the last few games.

[Jim Comic]

Any word on Momo?


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N151540060221-2237.htm

[Teknique]

not good

[raZor]

you could see it must have been something serious like that, thought it might have been a fractured cheekbone but the kick didnt look that hard.

freak accident then.

[Out da Lough Like]

Its strange though - for a class defensive team Lverpool are conceding all their goals from set plays.

Chelsea, Man U, Benfica in the last few games.


Zonal marking.

They should forget about it and go back to man for man marking.

Hopefully Benfica will nick an away goal at Anfield, and it will finish 1-1 with Benfica going through.

The sooner the likes of Liverpool and Rangers are knocked out the better and hopefully this year the final will be won in open play.


I'd say an Arsenal V Barcelona final would be a good spectacle for neutrals.

[homer jay]

Zonal marking. They should forget about it and go back to man for man marking.

yeah they should take a leaf out of the man utd book of defending, kewell free header, finnan free shot at the back post and the closest anyone came to crouch for his goal was kewell. as for the rest of your post, half arsed wummery, give it up

[Out da Lough Like]

yeah they should take a leaf out of the man utd book of defending, kewell free header, finnan free shot at the back post and the closest anyone came to crouch for his goal was kewell.


Always back to United.



Tsk tsk tsk.....

[homer jay]

Always back to United.



Tsk tsk tsk.....

it was just an example, i could also compare to arsenal, and even chelsea's defending against 'boro. pool have the second best defence in the league, zonal marking works.

[Fat Tom]

it was just an example, i could also compare to arsenal, and even chelsea's defending against 'boro. pool have the second best defence in the league, zonal marking works.

Cost ye a goals last night though and 3 points at Old Trafford not to mention the Bridge.

United's comin defending aside I think it is a very valid point.
Hopefully ye don't meet Bolton any time soon!

[homer jay]

Cost ye a goals last night though and 3 points at Old Trafford not to mention the Bridge.

United's comin defending aside I think it is a very valid point.
Hopefully ye don't meet Bolton any time soon!

granted gallas' goal from a corner was a failure of the system, but ferdinands goal was a mistake by krompkamp coupled with a good header from rio.
just because they let a few in from set pieces, people jump all over them ridiculing the zonal marking system. last year it did cause a lot of problems mainly cos the players didn't know how to implement it, but its working for the most part this season.

[Out da Lough Like]

granted gallas' goal from a corner was a failure of the system, but ferdinands goal was a mistake by krompkamp coupled with a good header from rio.
just because they let a few in from set pieces, people jump all over them ridiculing the zonal marking system. last year it did cause a lot of problems mainly cos the players didn't know how to implement it, but its working for the most part this season.



I still think a man on each post at corners though.

[homer jay]

I still think a man on each post at corners though.

yeah, i'd agree there

[Sound]

Zonal marking.

They should forget about it and go back to man for man marking.

Hopefully Benfica will nick an away goal at Anfield, and it will finish 1-1 with Benfica going through.

The sooner the likes of Liverpool and Rangers are knocked out the better and hopefully this year the final will be won in open play.


I'd say an Arsenal V Barcelona final would be a good spectacle for neutrals.

You're not even trying anymore.

[Out da Lough Like]

You're not even trying anymore.


You think that Rangers and Liverpool add anything to the competition for neutrals?


My continental buddies (most of my neighbours in France) are all rooting for Barcelona, even though Olympique Lyon is a French team. The perception in Europe is that some of the remaining British teams play negative football.

Real or imagined, that is the perception.

[Out da Lough Like]

From Le Monde:


Champion d'Europe en titre, le Liverpool FC a déçu. Les Reds de Rafael Benitez ont été battus à Lisbonne (1-0) par une faible équipe du Benfica.


Which translates roughly as follows: "European champions, Liverpool, disappointed. Rafael Benitez's Reds were beaten 1-0 by a weak Benfica team."


That is the sole mention that the Champions of Europe got in one of the biggest selling newspapers in Europe. Most papers concentrated on Henry's and Ballack's goals.

[Coin]

granted gallas' goal from a corner was a failure of the system
No it wasn't. There's a big difference between the system being wrong and the player doing the wrong thing within the system.

Implemented perfectly, neither zonal nor man to man marking should ever yield a goal, but thats just not going to happen.

Does anyone know how many goals Liverpool have conceded from dead balls this season?

[Out da Lough Like]

No it wasn't. There's a big difference between the system being wrong and the player doing the wrong thing within the system.

Implemented perfectly, neither zonal nor man to man marking should ever yield a goal, but thats just not going to happen.

Does anyone know how many goals Liverpool have conceded from dead balls this season?


I think that zonal marking is great in theory but as Sam Allardyce, and to a lesser extent, Ruud Van Nistelrooy have proved, a lot of the time Referees interpretation of the offside rule can have a big impact on how it works in practice. You are right in what you say regarding the "implemented perfectly" thing of course.

[POL]

From Le Monde:


Champion d'Europe en titre, le Liverpool FC a déçu. Les Reds de Rafael Benitez ont été battus à Lisbonne (1-0) par une faible équipe du Benfica.


Which translates roughly as follows: "European champions, Liverpool, disappointed. Rafael Benitez's Reds were beaten 1-0 by a weak Benfica team."


That is the sole mention that the Champions of Europe got in one of the biggest selling newspapers in Europe. Most papers concentrated on Henry's and Ballack's goals.

You mean in France, what had the sun to say about Milan/Bayern?

[Out da Lough Like]

You mean in France, what had the sun to say about Milan/Bayern?


Don't care, not interested in the more parochial "papers," remember "Fog in Channel, Europe Cut Off?"


This is our premier competition, and in all fairness, I enjoy discussing it with my French friends and neighbours.

We are all Europeans, and to be honest, out of the British teams remaining in the competition, the consensus appears to be that Liverpool and Rangers are the two least likely to impress the neutrals.

Arsenal and Chelsea are much more highly regarded in the part of France that I spend time in.


Although the predominantly preferred club (after O L this year) is without doubt Barcelona. They aren't too keen on Bayern either, but that could be due to historical reasons.

[General Michael Collins]

Got caught with a sucker punch,from a set piece again.The result now puts a major doubt over Lfcs chances of qualifying for the quarter finals.Going to the second leg this day two weeks.Hopefully they ll be able to turn it around at Anfield.

[Fat Tom]

don't think ye did enough to win either though.
saying that I missed the last 20 minutes.

[General Michael Collins]

don't think ye did enough to win either though.
saying that I missed the last 20 minutes.
Your right.A draw would have been a fair result.

[POL]

Don't care, not interested in the more parochial "papers," remember "Fog in Channel, Europe Cut Off?"


This is our premier competition, and in all fairness, I enjoy discussing it with my French friends and neighbours.

We are all Europeans, and to be honest, out of the British teams remaining in the competition, the consensus appears to be that Liverpool and Rangers are the two least likely to impress the neutrals.

Arsenal and Chelsea are much more highly regarded in the part of France that I spend time in.


Although the predominantly preferred club (after O L this year) is without doubt Barcelona. They aren't too keen on Bayern either, but that could be due to historical reasons.

Jesus Christ ODLL, your efforts at wummery are simply appalling I have to say

[General Michael Collins]

Don't care, not interested in the more parochial "papers," remember "Fog in Channel, Europe Cut Off?"


This is our premier competition, and in all fairness, I enjoy discussing it with my French friends and neighbours.

We are all Europeans, and to be honest, out of the British teams remaining in the competition, the consensus appears to be that Liverpool and Rangers are the two least likely to impress the neutrals.

Arsenal and Chelsea are much more highly regarded in the part of France that I spend time in.


Although the predominantly preferred club (after O L this year) is without doubt Barcelona. They aren't too keen on Bayern either, but that could be due to historical reasons.
Were nt chesea expected to win the competition last season?Would be surprised if they got past barca over two legs.What is eery though is that arsenal are struggling to get into the top four of the premiership and are going very well in europe.Reminds me of a certain team from last season!!

[Sound]

Don't care, not interested in the more parochial "papers," remember "Fog in Channel, Europe Cut Off?"


This is our premier competition, and in all fairness, I enjoy discussing it with my French friends and neighbours.

We are all Europeans, and to be honest, out of the British teams remaining in the competition, the consensus appears to be that Liverpool and Rangers are the two least likely to impress the neutrals.

Arsenal and Chelsea are much more highly regarded in the part of France that I spend time in.


Although the predominantly preferred club (after O L this year) is without doubt Barcelona. They aren't too keen on Bayern either, but that could be due to historical reasons.

This kind of thing might fly in the retards forum but we are used to better in here. Stop embarrassing yourself.

I wonder how the horders of Indochina reacted to the Real Madrid Keystone Kops being beaten? Actually, I dont, because its irrelevant.

[Out da Lough Like]

This kind of thing might fly in the retards forum but we are used to better in here. Stop embarrassing yourself.

I wonder how the horders of Indochina reacted to the Real Madrid Keystone Kops being beaten? Actually, I dont, because its irrelevant.



Gwonyalanger, with your parochial west Brit attitude. And who's this "we" tonto?

Getting back to the question regarding Bayern V Milan:


Quant aux joueurs du Bayern, qui restaient sur quinze succès consécutifs dans leur nouveau stade de l'Allianz Arena, ils ont été tenus en échec (1-1) par un solide Milan AC, un penalty d'Andreï Chevtchenko répondant à un but signé Michael Ballack.


Which, roughly translated reads as: "Bayern Munich who were looking to extend their run of 15 consecutive wins at the new Allianz Arena were held to a 1-1 draw by a solid AC Milan, who scored through an Andrei Chevtchenko penalty in repsonse to a goal from Michael Ballack."

[Jim Comic]

sissoko has retina damage in his eye, will be out for a while

[Teknique]

sissoko has retina damage in his eye, will be out for a while

Balls

[Sound]

Gwonyalanger, with your parochial west Brit attitude. And who's this "we" tonto?

Getting back to the question regarding Bayern V Milan:


Quant aux joueurs du Bayern, qui restaient sur quinze succès consécutifs dans leur nouveau stade de l'Allianz Arena, ils ont été tenus en échec (1-1) par un solide Milan AC, un penalty d'Andreï Chevtchenko répondant à un but signé Michael Ballack.


Which, roughly translated reads as: "Bayern Munich who were looking to extend their run of 15 consecutive wins at the new Allianz Arena were held to a 1-1 draw by a solid AC Milan, who scored through an Andrei Chevtchenko penalty in repsonse to a goal from Michael Ballack."

'We', as in 'we' who frequent the sports forum more than the retards forum. Feel free to keep up.

This is getting worse- you attempt a feeble wum and end up getting would up yourself!

Snigger.

[Out da Lough Like]

sissoko has retina damage in his eye, will be out for a while

Apparently that is the same problem Scholes has too.

Maybe Edgar Davids has the right idea.

[Out da Lough Like]

'We', as in 'we' who frequent the sports forum more than the retards forum. Feel free to keep up.

This is getting worse- you attempt a feeble wum and end up getting would up yourself!

Snigger.


Would up?

[POL]

when all else fails you'll always have pedantry

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz

[Sound]

Would up?

You know you have them licked when they resort to nit-picking with touch-typing. We banned this kind of thing in the sports forum ages ago.

Do keep up.

[Out da Lough Like]

'We', as in 'we' who frequent the sports forum more than the retards forum. Feel free to keep up.

This is getting worse- you attempt a feeble wum and end up getting would up yourself!

Snigger.


OK.

Allow me to digress for a while in order to take you to task.


What part of your above post has anything to do with sport?


And then you go on about the "retards fourm."

We who frequent this sports forum are entitled to say whatever we like about sports, and if a newbie such as yourself has a different opinion, then that is fine.


We respect that.

But please, stick to posts about sport. The "retards" forum is available to you to indulge yourself in pissing contests.


I am obviously a complete arsehole in your opinion, but we do like to read about sports related issues on this forum. Try to keep the invective for the "retards forum."



Everything I have posted is merely my opinion. Nothing that I have posted is "wummery" or factually incorrect.

The fact that I spend a lot of time discussing football amongst people from outside of the UK or Ireland should not make their opinions or mine, any less valid.


Live with it.

Back to the sports.

[Killyoursons]

OK.

Allow me to digress for a while in order to take you to task.


What part of your above post has anything to do with sport?


And then you go on about the "retards fourm."

We who frequent this sports forum are entitled to say whatever we like about sports, and if a newbie such as yourself has a different opinion, then that is fine.


We respect that.

But please, stick to posts about sport. The "retards" forum is available to you to indulge yourself in pissing contests.


I am obviously a complete arsehole in your opinion, but we do like to read about sports related issues on this forum. Try to keep the invective for the "retards forum."



Everything I have posted is merely my opinion. Nothing that I have posted is "wummery" or factually incorrect.

The fact that I spend a lot of time discussing football amongst people from outside of the UK or Ireland should not make their opinions or mine, any less valid.


Live with it.

Back to the sports.

Methinks he doth protest too much ;-)

[Out da Lough Like]

Methinks he doth protest too much ;-)


Heh heh heh.
;)

[Lamps]

'We', as in 'we' who frequent the sports forum more than the retards forum. Feel free to keep up.

This is getting worse- you attempt a feeble wum and end up getting would up yourself!

Snigger.

agreed.

was in the langers forum yesterday, spinning the biggest line of bullshit about them all being frauds and the whole lot of em were being reeled in one by one.

the true test of ones wummery comes in the sports forum, fools aint suffered.
look how long established langers forum WUM boxoid lasted

[Sound]

OK.

Allow me to digress for a while in order to take you to task.


What part of your above post has anything to do with sport?


And then you go on about the "retards fourm."

We who frequent this sports forum are entitled to say whatever we like about sports, and if a newbie such as yourself has a different opinion, then that is fine.


We respect that.

But please, stick to posts about sport. The "retards" forum is available to you to indulge yourself in pissing contests.


I am obviously a complete arsehole in your opinion, but we do like to read about sports related issues on this forum. Try to keep the invective for the "retards forum."



Everything I have posted is merely my opinion. Nothing that I have posted is "wummery" or factually incorrect.

The fact that I spend a lot of time discussing football amongst people from outside of the UK or Ireland should not make their opinions or mine, any less valid.


Live with it.

Back to the sports.

Whoosh! Wummer turns wumee.

FAO POL, could you start giving these people lessons before they come in here and get new arseholes torn for themselves.

[POL]

Whoosh! Wummer turns wumee.

FAO POL, could you start giving these people lessons before they come in here and get new arseholes torn for themselves.

Personally I couldn't give a toss about them. The likes of Todays bread and similar cretinous imbecile types are completely out of their depth, must be the shortage of moronic word play threads and "i just went for shit, what do I do now?" type threads in which they revel. Seeing them get swatted brings a smile to my face, reminds me of driving down the freeway in America in convertible, shades on, foot to the floor, flies getting squashed on the window screen

[POL]

agreed.

was in the langers forum yesterday, spinning the biggest line of bullshit about them all being frauds and the whole lot of em were being reeled in one by one.

the true test of ones wummery comes in the sports forum, fools aint suffered.
look how long established langers forum WUM boxoid lasted

good laugh alright, jesus, there's some fcuktards on there, full of horseshit.

[Out da Lough Like]

Personally I couldn't give a toss about them. The likes of Todays bread and similar cretinous imbecile types are completely out of their depth, must be the shortage of moronic word play threads and "i just went for shit, what do I do now?" type threads in which they revel. Seeing them get swatted brings a smile to my face, reminds me of driving down the freeway in America in convertible, shades on, foot to the floor, flies getting squashed on the window screen


I wish to FAWK there was a sports forum.

[FL4ZGN]

Personally I couldn't give a toss about them. The likes of Todays bread and similar cretinous imbecile types are completely out of their depth, must be the shortage of moronic word play threads and "i just went for shit, what do I do now?" type threads in which they revel. Seeing them get swatted brings a smile to my face, reminds me of driving down the freeway in America in convertible, shades on, foot to the floor, flies getting squashed on the window screen


I am entitled to my opinion. Put me on ignore if ya dont like what i type. Ya fucking WUM.

Naff would be proud of your carry on.


Cue response from Lamps.

[Out da Lough Like]

I am entitled to my opinion. Put me on ignore if ya dont like what i type. Ya fucking WUM.

Naff would be proud of your carry on.


Queue response from Lamps.


That should be "Cue"


I wish to fawk there was snooker forum.


All jokes aside, at the end of the day the guy is an asshole of the highest order, and as you say he should use the ignore button. As a newbie, he isn't familiar with the ways of the PROC.

[Langer Dan]

can't believe tv3 were showing this shite when madrid arsenal was on.

FFS like at least might get to see a decent match tonight.

[Out da Lough Like]

can't believe tv3 were showing this shite when madrid arsenal was on.

FFS like at least might get to see a decent match tonight.


Have you got sky?




I watched it on ITV1 London last night, I got the codes on here.

[Langer Dan]

Have you got sky?




I watched it on ITV1 London last night, I got the codes on here.

what thread?

[Fat Tom]

Read on Football 365 that Pleat made a complete muppet of himself calling Zidane Zizan and pronouncing "Henry" - Hen-ry as opposed to silent H.

Ahhh ye get what i mean.

[Out da Lough Like]

what thread?


Here are the codes:

Below codes for ITV 1/2/3/4

12304 H 27.5 2/3
10758 V 22 5/6

[Langer Dan]

Here are the codes:

Below codes for ITV 1/2/3/4

12304 H 27.5 2/3
10758 V 22 5/6

cheers

[Out da Lough Like]

cheers

These are the instructions,

Press the Services button on your remote control.
Press the 4 button twice.
Fill in the settings below and follow the on-screen instructions:-



The UTV/ITV channels are as follows:-
10758 V 22 5/6
10832 H 22 5/6
10891 H 22 5/6
10906 V 22 5/6

The BBC channels are as follows:-
10733 H 22 5/6
10803 H 22 5/6
10847 V 22 5/6


I'll have to look up about how I got ITV1 London, because that's got a very good Soccer London show every week that goes through all the London Clubs. ITV1 Granada has a similar one for the North West. I'll try and find it for you by tomorrow, or the link to it.