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Superdave
16-02-2006, 01:30 AM
Intend on buying a mitsubishi FTO here (NZ) in the next few months. Want a manual but they are rare. Many state they are tiptronic. Any help here?

Rodger
16-02-2006, 03:30 PM
I had tiptronic gears on a GTI golf i owned. Was the business. Takes time to get used to though. All the WRC cars have it.

Hang_Sandwich
16-02-2006, 05:06 PM
tap up to go up a gear tap down to go down a gear.

House head
16-02-2006, 05:07 PM
Is it not flappy paddles behind the steering wheel??

northsidescumbag
16-02-2006, 05:28 PM
Is it not flappy paddles behind the steering wheel??
No but similar, it just means you have a gearstick but it's an automatic gearbox that you control by using the little flicky gear stick. It's the same system that you get on a steering wheel for a playstation etc.

Hang_Sandwich
16-02-2006, 05:38 PM
Is it not flappy paddles behind the steering wheel??

No thats would be f1 gears and still requires use if a clutch, I know that the older audi A6 2.5T had an automatic and tiptronic mode, automatic speaks for itself and tiptronic was push the gear lever in the tiptronic area and push it forward to go up a gear and back to go down a gear, either way they are shite, also the V6 FTO is riddled with problems and not as quick as you'd be led to believe

House head
16-02-2006, 09:38 PM
the V6 FTO is riddled with problems and not as quick as you'd be led to believe

Ive heard the same, theres a guy near me drivin one, he walks more often than drives his FTO, sounds class tho

Superdave
17-02-2006, 02:40 AM
Appreciate the help lads, would be interested in hearing more of these problems - please divulge.

Driving a AZ3 at the mo - can't remember what it's called back home. Have had huge problems with it. although all sorted now i still have no faith in it and every time i hear a noise i shit myself.

Insurance out here is dog cheap (i'm paying $26 a month - 15Eur) so keen to drive something powerful and decent looking for a few years til i head home to the beaten down life of the 1L driver!

Suggest anything along the same lines?

Hang_Sandwich
17-02-2006, 12:11 PM
Appreciate the help lads, would be interested in hearing more of these problems - please divulge.

Driving a AZ3 at the mo - can't remember what it's called back home. Have had huge problems with it. although all sorted now i still have no faith in it and every time i hear a noise i shit myself.

Insurance out here is dog cheap (i'm paying $26 a month - 15Eur) so keen to drive something powerful and decent looking for a few years til i head home to the beaten down life of the 1L driver!

Suggest anything along the same lines?

gt 4 celica, nissan skyline, subaru legacy B4, or go for an aussie brute like a holden vsr - you'd get them all cheap as chips over there. with regard to the fto - rotting oil sump, had to recondition the alternator and cracked camshaft to name three problems a friend of mine had last year.

northsidescumbag
17-02-2006, 06:27 PM
Appreciate the help lads, would be interested in hearing more of these problems - please divulge.

Driving a AZ3 at the mo - can't remember what it's called back home. Have had huge problems with it. although all sorted now i still have no faith in it and every time i hear a noise i shit myself.

Insurance out here is dog cheap (i'm paying $26 a month - 15Eur) so keen to drive something powerful and decent looking for a few years til i head home to the beaten down life of the 1L driver!

Suggest anything along the same lines?
Right, I'm moving to new zealand and getting myself something with a big engine.

Superdave
20-02-2006, 02:33 AM
gt 4 celica, nissan skyline, subaru legacy B4, or go for an aussie brute like a holden vsr - you'd get them all cheap as chips over there. with regard to the fto - rotting oil sump, had to recondition the alternator and cracked camshaft to name three problems a friend of mine had last year.


nice one boy. just had a look at those now. I'm pretty much driving a Celica now so looking for something even more sporty. could pick up a celica for about $3k out here, looking to spend 8 or 9. am tempted by the idea of driving a bmw but i really like the look of the FTO. The skyline is a weapon of choice out here. Driven by a lot of Mauri lads - gangsta style! - but not sure i want to be in that category if you know what i mean! Couldn't find a VSR. Could always wait a few months and buy a bmw roadster with the extra savings. just not sure though. the az3 frightens me at this stage, i've replaced almost everything once. it's a mongrel of a car at this stage, about the only thing original is the body adn the seats! so keen to offload it now.

nice one for the advice. if anything else comes to mind, i appreciate the idea.

Hang_Sandwich
20-02-2006, 12:28 PM
nice one boy. just had a look at those now. I'm pretty much driving a Celica now so looking for something even more sporty. could pick up a celica for about $3k out here, looking to spend 8 or 9. am tempted by the idea of driving a bmw but i really like the look of the FTO. The skyline is a weapon of choice out here. Driven by a lot of Mauri lads - gangsta style! - but not sure i want to be in that category if you know what i mean! Couldn't find a VSR. Could always wait a few months and buy a bmw roadster with the extra savings. just not sure though. the az3 frightens me at this stage, i've replaced almost everything once. it's a mongrel of a car at this stage, about the only thing original is the body adn the seats! so keen to offload it now.

nice one for the advice. if anything else comes to mind, i appreciate the idea.

emm there is a big difference between a standard celica and a gt4 celica, mostly along the lines of twin turbos and 4wd trust me you woul;d not be lacking in power driving one of these. how about a holden monaro cv8, a 22b impreza, or mitsubishi eclipse perhaps or a mazda rx7?

Superdave
21-02-2006, 01:54 AM
Holden Monaro - $37k. Far too much for now. 5.7L! holy shit!

the impreza - 18k - bit more reasonable alright. looks well.

The RX8 is a beauty but up over 30k too. My fav of those you suggested though.

Not sure what to do but will keep looking away anyway and save while i'm thinking. Nice one for the advice boy.

Up For The Ba
21-02-2006, 06:37 PM
The RX8 is a beauty but up over 30k too. My fav of those you suggested though.

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Not RX-8, its predecessor the RX-7. A much quicker car by all accounts, should be right up your street by the sounds of it. Its only rated as a 1.3 so your insurance would be for peanuts, but its realisticly a 2.6 turbo. You should be able to pick up an early 90`s model for the money you`re talking about.

House head
21-02-2006, 09:14 PM
Apparently RX-7's are extremely thirsty,
Probably a bit of a handful on wet country roads too,
They look sweet though, and they have a wankel ;)

maggot
21-02-2006, 10:33 PM
Apparently RX-7's are extremely thirsty,
Probably a bit of a handful on wet country roads too,
They look sweet though, and they have a wankel ;)

Big time.

Most big-powered cars are.

Hang_Sandwich
22-02-2006, 12:35 PM
Apparently RX-7's are extremely thirsty,
Probably a bit of a handful on wet country roads too,
They look sweet though, and they have a wankel ;)

yes its would be like having a psychotic oul'doll or something, do anything to annoy it and it will kill you, but when you are in it, its the business. its supposed to be quite hard to insure desipte it 1300cc however you can't insure it as that , more like insuring two 650 cc motorbikes with turbos (price wise that is) but this shouldn't be a problem in NZ. Aparently if you drive it on a bit you'd better be a regular at track days and such to be able to keep it between the ditches

northsidescumbag
22-02-2006, 11:26 PM
Big time.

Most big-powered cars are.
Especially rotary engines.

House head
23-02-2006, 03:20 PM
What insurance group are they??
If your goin down the RWD jap road how bout a 200sx s14 or s15, sweet cars and probably more insurable and less thirsty than an RX-7

CommanderCian
23-02-2006, 03:38 PM
I would personally go for the RX7, you could pick up an s14 easily enough when you come back to Ireland as they are getting more common. Go for something that you wont really get to drive when you come home. The rx7 is a legendary sports car. Its RWD yes but I have never heard stories of it swopping ends or spinning easily. Treat it with a bit of respect and get to learn the car and you will enjoy it, maybe even taking the odd corner a little too fast to get some oversteer.

Servicing and parts for the rx7 in NZ will not be a problem as its one of many cars they like to tune over there so finding someone with experience in the rotary engine should'nt cause headaches.

And finally, if you get bored of the power and handling, theres LOADS you can do to make it go faster!

northsidescumbag
23-02-2006, 05:19 PM
I would personally go for the RX7, you could pick up an s14 easily enough when you come back to Ireland as they are getting more common. Go for something that you wont really get to drive when you come home. The rx7 is a legendary sports car. Its RWD yes but I have never heard stories of it swopping ends or spinning easily. Treat it with a bit of respect and get to learn the car and you will enjoy it, maybe even taking the odd corner a little too fast to get some oversteer.

Servicing and parts for the rx7 in NZ will not be a problem as its one of many cars they like to tune over there so finding someone with experience in the rotary engine should'nt cause headaches.

And finally, if you get bored of the power and handling, theres LOADS you can do to make it go faster!
I had a video of one doing 215Mph on alkaline flats, it took off, flipped and rolled like a Le Mans car.

I'd go for a Holden or something.

CommanderCian
23-02-2006, 05:29 PM
Just cause it flipped at over 200+ MPH doesent make it a bad car. I'm a big fan of them and they dont have the good reputation they have for no reason.

As for holdens, would love a HSV or the car a vauxhall marano is based on. 5.7L or 6.0 V8!:D

northsidescumbag
23-02-2006, 06:09 PM
Just cause it flipped at over 200+ MPH doesent make it a bad car. I'm a big fan of them and they dont have the good reputation they have for no reason.

As for holdens, would love a HSV or the car a vauxhall marano is based on. 5.7L or 6.0 V8!:D
I know I'm just saying all's well saying something like that can be made to be as fast as a McLaren but that's what happens at top speed.

k974
24-02-2006, 01:23 AM
Get yourslef a mid 90's hsv 5.0l v8 lsd, absolutley bomb proof easy to work on, cost you bout 10k wont sufer much deprication and is easy to sell.

I presume even if you are able do work to the cars yorself you wont have the tools or space to do it over there, why buy a tempremental thing like an rx7 when thats the case? 22b's gt4's etc will have to be run on high octance petrol subarus arent relaibel gt4's arent realaible.

Ideally living away from home you want something that wont need anything besides the usual servicing, i wouldnt look past a hsv if i was you

Hang_Sandwich
24-02-2006, 10:38 AM
Get yourslef a mid 90's hsv 5.0l v8 lsd, absolutley bomb proof easy to work on, cost you bout 10k wont sufer much deprication and is easy to sell.

I presume even if you are able do work to the cars yorself you wont have the tools or space to do it over there, why buy a tempremental thing like an rx7 when thats the case? 22b's gt4's etc will have to be run on high octance petrol subarus arent relaibel gt4's arent realaible.

Ideally living away from home you want something that wont need anything besides the usual servicing, i wouldnt look past a hsv if i was you

Subarus and gt4 not reliable? what are you talking about,you've probably listed the too most reliable brands there is, the only way that they become unrealiable is when tweeted by the owners to run more boost for example. also they tend to run on 97/98 octane over that part of the world anyway, and if by some strange reason you can get the cars mapped to run on 95 octane, personally i think i'd go with a holden or an eclipse simply because you will not see them over here.

House head
24-02-2006, 01:51 PM
subarus arent relaibel gt4's arent realaible.



Subarus are probably one of the most reliable cars out there,
They just dont break.

k974
26-02-2006, 10:07 PM
how many have you woned??

i didnt say subarus in general or toyotas in general i was refering to impreza wrx's and gt4, its not that their unrelaible as just but you cant cut corners on serivicing with em. say a 80's corolla she might see an old change for 5 years but will keep going, the wrx's will cost a fortune to maintain right.

ya there ok when the boost is left alone, but on higher boost and 95 octane petrol they'lll go thru pistons in no time, they are also fond of clutchs and gearboxs..
gt4's wrx's evos are relaiable if maintained properly, but to say they are as reliable as a 1.3 corolla lancer or impreza or whatever isnt true

Superdave
27-02-2006, 12:54 AM
well just to bring ye up to date i crashed the AZ3 yesterday! blind corner, Wet road, cars backed up due to previous accident. ye can fill in the gaps yerselves!

I'm selling this f**kin thing as soon as i have it fixed. Have it 6 months and have spent about 150% of the cost of the car on fixing it since. never had a run of luck like it.