Liverpool - Gunners

[Fat Tom]

Well how do people think this will go.

Arsenal's Defence has been shocking but the pool don't have much upfront to trouble them.

I fancy Arsenal to sneak it by a brace from Henry.

[Fat Tom]

And BTW - any poor Pool or Gunners fans getting screwed over by having to take their bird out for Valentine's day, hence missing the game.

[Eoin]

It's a tough one to call. Both teams have been poor enough recently.

I reckon a repeat of Robbies record quickest hat-trick could be on the cards!!

[homer jay]

And BTW - any poor Pool or Gunners fans getting screwed over by having to take their bird out for Valentine's day, hence missing the game.

yes, the question of whether i get to watch the game is still up in the air. she said to go watch it, but i know i'll be in the fucking dog house for a week if i do. reckon its one of those bite the bullit jobs. i'll take a hit knowing it'll turn out better in the long run.

[sunbabe08]

And BTW - any poor Pool or Gunners fans getting screwed over by having to take their bird out for Valentine's day, hence missing the game.


how do u think the players wives feel???? :lol:

[Eoin]

how do u think the players wives feel???? :lol:

I'm sure the mountains of money their husbands earn can help dry the tears.

[Fat Tom]

how do u think the players wives feel???? :lol:

or husbands?

[shammy feen]

Im going to play it safe and go for Arsenal to win by 3-1.

[homer jay]

1-1

[POL]

7-2

[storysham]

An archbishop desmond.

2-2.



Although for fantasy football purposes, a liverpool 6-0 win.
Finnan and alonso hat tricks.

scrap that, UFTB has finnan as captain, alonso for all 6

[Teknique]

We're due a good game amongst the top teams at least once this year

Fowler to score in a 3-2 win for the Reds

[Philby]

We've played some good games against the other top teams this year but results haven't gone our way.

This is a tough one to call, neither team in sparkling form. Henry has yet to fully sparkle in recent weeks, both Gerrard & Alonso blatantly require a rest but neither will realistically want to sit out this game - although if it were up to me I'd rest Xabi tonight & bring in Hamann who showed a cool head when others around him were losing their on that bog called the JJB.

With United and Benfica (2 bigger games than tonight's) coming up on the horizon I think Rafa needs to give Xabi a break. He has looked dead on his feet at times in recent weeks and his passing is not up to his usual lofty standards.

Harry Kewell is a due a goal and generally performs well against the gunners, a few quid on him to score mightn't be a bad punt.

A draw won't be a great result for either side but would probably suit Liverpool marginally better as it helps to rule out the possibility of them getting gazumped for 4th place by Arsenal (unlikely but always possible).

Wenger's raggle-taggle bunch need to start making ground on Spurs quickly but I truly hope they don't begin doing this at anfield tonight.


My pool line up

dudek

finnan carra sami riise

gerrard hamann sissoko kewell

crouch fowler

[Coin]

Can't play Hamman and Sissoko together in the middle. Liverpool would be very hard to break down, but Hamann doesn't have the ability to push a team forward anymore, and the front 2 would get absolutely no one coming from midfield to make the extra man. That means Gerrard and Kewell trying to pick out 2 heavily marked men all night. It also means Gerrard will end up floating even more infield and any Liverpool width would vanish. The inability to push forward would probably mean Arsenal would have a lot of possession, and chances are at some stage Henry or someone will catch you.

[storysham]

With United and Benfica (2 bigger games than tonight's) coming up on the horizon I think Rafa needs to give Xabi a break.

Fuck that i need the FF points

[sunbabe08]

2-1 liverpool

[Jim Comic]

Robbie Fowler and Fernando Morientes have been entrusted with the responsibility of shooting down the Gunners when they lead the line for Liverpool at Anfield tonight.
Momo Sissoko is recalled to the centre of midfield with Steven Gerrard moving to the right hand side.
*
The Liverpool team in full is:
*
Dudek
Finnan
Hyypia
Carragher
Riise
Gerrard
Alonso
Sissoko
Kewell
Fowler
Morientes
*
Subs:
Carson
Hamann
Garcia
Traore
Cisse

[AmadeusDC]

Where can i get those typed minute by minute updates?

They are usually on the BBC site i think, anyone have a link cause i've money on a draw?

-AmadeusDC-

[Murdock]

Where can i get those typed minute by minute updates?

They are usually on the BBC site i think, anyone have a link cause i've money on a draw?

-AmadeusDC-


Just google bbc sport.


I'd say it'll most probably be a boring nil-niller. Liverpool have a great defence, but are sahit up-front. Arsenal are shite at the back and their away form is awful, so I don't think they'll be doing much attacking.

However, if anyone's going to win it, it will be Liverpool (1-0).

[FL4ZGN]

Where can i get those typed minute by minute updates?

They are usually on the BBC site i think, anyone have a link cause i've money on a draw?

-AmadeusDC-


www.sportinglife.com

[AmadeusDC]

Just google bbc sport.


I'd say it'll most probably be a boring nil-niller. Liverpool have a great defence, but are sahit up-front. Arsenal are shite at the back and their away form is awful, so I don't think they'll be doing much attacking.

However, if anyone's going to win it, it will be Liverpool (1-0).

Cheers, i had found it anyway though........ ya to be honest i'm hoping for the 0:0. Liverpool's defence is excellent and hopefully they'll remain brutal in front of goal. If they do score then i'll have to rely on Henry or Pires as usual especially with RVP injured.

I also have Palace and Norwich to win tonight and Clinton has knocked one in after 3 minutes!! Class. -AmadeusDC-

[Jim Comic]

penalty to liverpool

[Jim Comic]

gerrard missed the pen, well lehman saved it

[sunbabe08]

goood game :D i'm currently having a heartattack.. then again thats normal when i'm watching a game

[AmadeusDC]

Palace up, Norwich up and Arsenal saving a peno........... it's good right now but i'm hoping i don't jinx it!!

Touch wood and all that.............

-AmadeusDC-

[sunbabe08]

fowler to score!!!

[sunbabe08]

ok what was that about??? all of liverpool out, arsenal slow to come out. freddie coming out with his shorts nearly down around his ankles... and wenger only just came out 2 minutes into the game

[Jim Comic]

game has been nearly all liverpool, they could be 3 or 4 up...... which means we'll probably lose 1-0

[Murdock]

what was that about??? freddie coming out with his shorts nearly down around his ankles...

I think we can join the dots.......







C'mon nil-nil draw!

[sunbabe08]

I think we can join the dots.......







C'mon nil-nil draw!




:lol: i cant see why liverpool havent score yet.... they've been sooo close..... come on robbie

[Murdock]

i cant see why liverpool havent score yet....

The lack of a decent striker may have something to do with it.

[Jim Comic]

1-0 (garcia)

[sunbabe08]

1-0 (garcia)



oh my god :lol: what a goal


damn shame it wasnt fowler :(

[Murdock]

Shite!

I still make some money, as I had put some on 1-0, but it would have been a lot more had it stayed scoreless.


God's curse upon that Spanish midget!

[Jim Comic]

ft: 1-0

[AmadeusDC]

Shite!

I still make some money, as I had put some on 1-0, but it would have been a lot more had it stayed scoreless.


God's curse upon that Spanish midget!

AGREED!!! Little Spanish fucker.............. I won on the other two though but still, that would have been huge. -AmadeusDC-

[storysham]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/printmasterbrian/thierry.jpg

[sunbabe08]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/printmasterbrian/thierry.jpg



he better brush up on his spanish :D

[Teknique]

ft: 1-0

back onto topic

That might be the worst Arsenal Performance I have seen
so many misplaced passes , Henry did so much clapping he shudda sat in the Kop.

Sissoko was immense again in midfielf , I just heard he got the same rating as ljunberg in the Sun which is laughable

thought we were destined for a 0-0 but thankfully Luis popped up with the winner , which I think was fully deserved

problems with the strikers are well doumented by now , Morientes had 4 chances , shudda taken 1 at least

[Jim Comic]

for a while it was starting to look like the middlesboro game from the opening day of the season (how that finished 0-0 i'll never know, should have been about 7-1!), loads of chances but no sign of a goal - all hail King Luiz

[Philby]

back onto topic

That might be the worst Arsenal Performance I have seen
so many misplaced passes , Henry did so much clapping he shudda sat in the Kop.

Sissoko was immense again in midfielf , I just heard he got the same rating as ljunberg in the Sun which is laughable

Wouldn't expect anything more from that rag.

Liverpool bossed & bullied Arsenal into submission last night. The only thing that kept it a contest was liverpool's well-documented lack of clinical finishing.

Sissoko had another stormer in the centre. His work-rate, tackling and enthusiasm are a joy to watch. He tried to keep his passing a bit more simple that usual and it paid off.

All credit to Garcia, he's far from fully fit but goals seem to gravitate to the lad. If he's not creating them he's sniffing them out. He is also one of the few players in our current squad who are pro-active in anticipating rebounds from shots. He was rewarded for taking the chance and following in Didi's shot and finished it well, it was a tight angle & there was still a lot to do to convert that into the winner.

Another 80 minutes in the bank for Robbie (who played well and was unlucky to be foiled by a great Lehman save after a magnificent, classic fowler first touch and snap shot).

This should be a big wake-up call for Wenger. His team were out-fought, out-thought and out-classed. He's a fabulous manager imho but I feel he has changed too much too soon and its clear to see that his team lack any leadership. Will the house of cards fall down if Arsenal fail to make the CL next year & Henry packs his bags?

[homer jay]

alonso is a doubt for saturdays game cos he's knackered.

benitez- "Xabi is one of the players who is tired at the moment. We will have to see if he is fit for Saturday's game."

[Fat Tom]

Wouldn't expect anything more from that rag.

Liverpool bossed & bullied Arsenal into submission last night. The only thing that kept it a contest was liverpool's well-documented lack of clinical finishing.

Sissoko had another stormer in the centre. His work-rate, tackling and enthusiasm are a joy to watch. He tried to keep his passing a bit more simple that usual and it paid off.

All credit to Garcia, he's far from fully fit but goals seem to gravitate to the lad. If he's not creating them he's sniffing them out. He is also one of the few players in our current squad who are pro-active in anticipating rebounds from shots. He was rewarded for taking the chance and following in Didi's shot and finished it well, it was a tight angle & there was still a lot to do to convert that into the winner.

Another 80 minutes in the bank for Robbie (who played well and was unlucky to be foiled by a great Lehman save after a magnificent, classic fowler first touch and snap shot).

This should be a big wake-up call for Wenger. His team were out-fought, out-thought and out-classed. He's a fabulous manager imho but I feel he has changed too much too soon and its clear to see that his team lack any leadership. Will the house of cards fall down if Arsenal fail to make the CL next year & Henry packs his bags?

Henry looked off his game last night. Great performance by the Pool but the same faults were there again. Ye could have been caught on the hop with those two offside decisions and it would have been a massive injustice to a great performance. Morenties is awful, I'd say he'll be packing his bags in the Summer - he just hasn't clicked.

Ye didn't create enough in the first half again despite totally dominating proceedings but I thought they played great soccer last night.

Gerrard is wasted on the right, ye need a winger there badly but the way Sissoko is palying its gonna be hard drop him. Brilliant last night.

At the same time I don't think I have ever seen Arsenal and expecially Henry as bad.

I thought Ljunberg should have been taken off after 20 minutes - pathetic.

[Out da Lough Like]

It was a typical game between two also rans with nothing but a champions league place next year to play for. It started brightly but soon degenerated into a boring struggle which only served to prove just how far away from Chelsea these two clubs are. Neither looked like a cohesive unit, and the lack of a striker for Liverpool in particular can now be seen as the actions of a club bereft of any forward planning. Benitez should have moved heaven and earth to get Owen, the return of Fowler is no substitute for the loss of Owen to Newcastle.

Thierry Henry looked as if he was preoccupied elsewhere, and surely now he is destined for Barcelona in the summer. I know Arsenal had major injury problems but both of these sides will have to raise their game significantly if they are to hope to win against Benfica and Real Madrid. Hopefully these two defensive minded English sides will be eliminated from the CL at the next round and we can luxuriate in some good exciting top class football amongst Europes elite clubs without the English clubs spoiling tactics to whet our appetities for the world cup in the summer.

[Fat Tom]

What game were you watching - bar end product Liverpool played excellent soccer and totally dictated the game against one of the Premiership's better teams.

They were a superb Unit in defence and attack. They are lacking a striker or 3fair enough.
Owen has had massive injury problems, no one knows what sort of impact he might have had.
I've been critical of Liverpools style on here before but I thought they played fantastic last night.

Henry does look like his mind is elsewhere, I don't think anyone could call Arsenal defensive - last night they were just shit.
AS for defensive teams you won't find many more defensive than Benfica.

[Philby]

It was a typical game between two also rans with nothing but a champions league place next year to play for. It started brightly but soon degenerated into a boring struggle which only served to prove just how far away from Chelsea these two clubs are. Neither looked like a cohesive unit, and the lack of a striker for Liverpool in particular can now be seen as the actions of a club bereft of any forward planning. Benitez should have moved heaven and earth to get Owen, the return of Fowler is no substitute for the loss of Owen to Newcastle.

Thierry Henry looked as if he was preoccupied elsewhere, and surely now he is destined for Barcelona in the summer. I know Arsenal had major injury problems but both of these sides will have to raise their game significantly if they are to hope to win against Benfica and Real Madrid. Hopefully these two defensive minded English sides will be eliminated from the CL at the next round and we can luxuriate in some good exciting top class football amongst Europes elite clubs without the English clubs spoiling tactics to whet our appetities for the world cup in the summer.

Too many mindless statements there to even start to analyse...

[homer jay]

What game were you watching - bar end product Liverpool played excellent soccer and totally dictated the game against one of the Premiership's better teams.

They were a superb Unit in defence and attack. They are lacking a striker or 3fair enough.
Owen has had massive injury problems, no one knows what sort of impact he might have had.
I've been critical of Liverpools style on here before but I thought they played fantastic last night.

Henry does look like his mind is elsewhere, I don't think anyone could call Arsenal defensive - last night they were just shit.
AS for defensive teams you won't find many more defensive than Benfica.

you have been wummed. don't mind that fawking knobhead, he hasn't a clue.

[Eoin]

Morientes has to go.

He's a fucking disaster. Thought the rest of the team played really well, but in fairness, Arsenal were completely shit. I agree with Teknique, that's probably the worst arsenal performance I've seen since George Graham was in charge.

Still though, it was a badly needed win for Liverpool. Hopefully it signals the end of the mid-season lull just in time for the CL. Don't know where the goals are going to come from though. Is Fowler eligible for the CL??? I'm assuming that he is.........

[Lamps]

It was a typical game between two also rans with nothing but a champions league place next year to play for. It started brightly but soon degenerated into a boring struggle which only served to prove just how far away from Chelsea these two clubs are. Neither looked like a cohesive unit, and the lack of a striker for Liverpool in particular can now be seen as the actions of a club bereft of any forward planning. Benitez should have moved heaven and earth to get Owen, the return of Fowler is no substitute for the loss of Owen to Newcastle.

Thierry Henry looked as if he was preoccupied elsewhere, and surely now he is destined for Barcelona in the summer. I know Arsenal had major injury problems but both of these sides will have to raise their game significantly if they are to hope to win against Benfica and Real Madrid. Hopefully these two defensive minded English sides will be eliminated from the CL at the next round and we can luxuriate in some good exciting top class football amongst Europes elite clubs without the English clubs spoiling tactics to whet our appetities for the world cup in the summer.

i was going to say poor effort, but apparently it roused and fooled a united fan

[Lamps]

on the game, liverpool destroyed them but their lack of firepower must be a worry.
on the gunners, its hard to believe that 18 months ago they were champions after going undefeated for a season. they are appalling. no way will they get fourth. henry's mind is already at barca and he's making shit of my fantasy team.

[Fat Tom]

on the game, liverpool destroyed them but their lack of firepower must be a worry.
on the gunners, its hard to believe that 18 months ago they were champions after going undefeated for a season. they are appalling. no way will they get fourth. henry's mind is already at barca and he's making shit of my fantasy team.

I dopped him when he got injured and when he came back I tossed a coin between him and Ruud. Thank fuck It landed on heads.

[Teknique]

Thank fuck It landed on heads.

or Faces , if you will......
Horsefaces.....

[Out da Lough Like]

i was going to say poor effort, but apparently it roused and fooled a united fan



Heh heh heh......

http://www.sunnewsonline.co m/images/Rafael-15-07-2005.gif


;)

[Fat Tom]

Never realised Jamie was a true blue like Robbie in his younger days.

[STEVIEG]

. no way will they get fourth.


Fortunately for Arsenal the battle for fourht is where medocrity is allowed and their opponents are dropping silly points too. All this game indicated to me is that they won't catch Liverpool and from what i heard they don't deserved to, after the lack of ambition they displayed.

[Fat Tom]

Fortunately for Arsenal the battle for fourht is where medocrity is allowed and their opponents are dropping silly points too. All this game indicated to me is that they won't catch Liverpool and from what i heard they don't deserved to, after the lack of ambition they displayed.

WORST ARSENAL PERFORMANCE EVER!

http://www.simpsonsweb.com/img-news/196.jpg

[Roman Abramovich]

no way will they get fourth..
bump

[Rebelred]

by the way,when is someone gonna tell stevie gerrard he takes a shit penalty?

[Superdave]

by the way,when is someone gonna tell stevie gerrard he takes a shit penalty?

wasn't that bad. low, powerful and towards the corner. i'd give Lehman more credit for a strong hand. God should be taking them anyway.

[Fat Tom]

Freddie Ljungberg has admitted that Arsenal have become too scared to play the type of football that made them such a force in recent seasons.

The Gunners' disappointing campaign continued with a 1-0 defeat at Liverpool on Tuesday, leaving Arsenal in serious danger of missing out on UEFA Champions League qualification.

Opposition teams have successfully employed physical tactics against them, and Swedish midfielder Ljungberg is aware that they have been knocked out of their stride.

"We know teams will try to play a physical game against us, with a lot of long balls like Liverpool did," he acknowledged. "But it's our responsibility to try to get the ball down and play with it.

"Unfortunately, I think we have maybe become a bit scared of holding the ball and that means we end up kicking it long as well.

"It's not our way of playing and not our strength, if we're honest. It's not a good thing for us to end up playing like that.

"If people say we're not the team we were, it's a valid point."