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Langer Dan

14-02-2006, 12:02 PM

So was Billy right?

Your thoughts please.
Poll to follow?

Rebelred

14-02-2006, 12:07 PM

not enough options,as I reckon they're somwhere in between.

Lamps

14-02-2006, 12:10 PM

cheats to a man, in sport and in life.

POL

14-02-2006, 12:15 PM

shower of cunts, I love seeing the likes of Armagh getting stuck into them

Langer Dan

14-02-2006, 12:19 PM

cheats to a man, in sport and in life.

Gentlemen, amazingly we seem to have found a subject we are all agreed on.
Mark the day.

Fat Tom

14-02-2006, 12:25 PM

Who's the we Dan - you and all the guys who voted you Forum Idiot of the Year.

Well done - Cork Boys in Kerry Shower of Cunts shocker.
I don't think you needed a Poll.

I don't think We did either in coming to the conclusion that you were the idiot of the year.

But reminiscing over your Fitzies was worth it.

Langer Dan

14-02-2006, 12:29 PM

Fat Tom

14-02-2006, 12:31 PM

The Mob Spoke.

Langer Dan = Forum Idiot of the Year.

Langer Dan

14-02-2006, 12:33 PM

The general concensus is ye are a shower of cheating pricks.

try to stick to the point.
Last word freak.

Fat Tom

14-02-2006, 12:34 PM

Well done achieving that consensus on a Cork Forum.
Hard work I bet.

Fat Tom

14-02-2006, 12:34 PM

Oh look.
I just voted no.

No consensus.
Hard luck Langer.

Johnnyc

14-02-2006, 02:13 PM

Of course they niggle like mad off the ball but so do most teams, unforunately its now part of the game.

up.the.kingdom

14-02-2006, 03:25 PM

Ah yes, the old Cork mantra.........

Cant play football - Lets sling some shite

The Full Ham

14-02-2006, 03:35 PM

Ah yes, the old Cork mantra.........

Cant play football - Lets sling some shite
I wasn't going to comment as I think Fat Tom is fairly sound and did not wish to offend....but up the kingdom's crap has made my mind up.
Kerry is a lovely county, amazing scenery, friendly people, freindly women and good food. But whne it comes to football they are a shower of tinkers. Cork are not slinging shit here. Even last year down the park Kerry were throwing the odd dig off the ball. Now you can't have it both ways. Either put up and shut up about the Northern teams or clean up your act and play football against Cork and others instead of trying to ahve a boxing match.

Kerry supporters can be right shit heads too. The crap I got in Kilorglin in a pub one year was unreal.....heroes when their are five or six of them telling you what a crap football county cork is.

mind you that said, Cork need to toughen up...always have in football. They need to be able to give back in spades what kerry give to them...play them at their own game, intimidate them back.

Even if it means scenes like the Dublin / Armagh game...Kerry will be reluctant to try it again.

POL

14-02-2006, 03:39 PM

Even if it means scenes like the Dublin / Armagh game....

Fitz alert

Fat Tom

14-02-2006, 03:54 PM

I wasn't going to comment as I think Fat Tom is fairly sound and did not wish to offend....but up the kingdom's crap has made my mind up.
Kerry is a lovely county, amazing scenery, friendly people, freindly women and good food. But whne it comes to football they are a shower of tinkers. Cork are not slinging shit here. Even last year down the park Kerry were throwing the odd dig off the ball. Now you can't have it both ways. Either put up and shut up about the Northern teams or clean up your act and play football against Cork and others instead of trying to ahve a boxing match.

Kerry supporters can be right shit heads too. The crap I got in Kilorglin in a pub one year was unreal.....heroes when their are five or six of them telling you what a crap football county cork is.

mind you that said, Cork need to toughen up...always have in football. They need to be able to give back in spades what kerry give to them...play them at their own game, intimidate them back.

Even if it means scenes like the Dublin / Armagh game...Kerry will be reluctant to try it again.

Again, I never complained about Tyrone or Armagh hitting or belting.
I have no problems with tough teams.
I have no problems with the way Armagh beat us at all.
I do have problems with Tyrone.
Not to do with football ability, they are class, its their win at all costs attitude that I posted in Shanno's article from the Tribune.

As for belts off the ball, every team is at that - and ye keep saying it here, but how come none of these incidents were brought up on TV or elsewhere.
Billy is bitching again, sure he was going on about how Gooch was giving it as well the last night. How many times was he fouled and being pulled and dragged?

Cork don't need to toughen up they need two corner backs and a few scoring forwards that they don't seem to have.
And comments about who'll be smiling in Septmeber are a bit over the top, I think everyone can recognise that Cork have a lot of work to do.

As for supporters, every county has em. Ye have a couple yerselves.
Take a look at Langer Dan FFS.
I sincerely doubt any county has such a moronic supporter.

PS - I don't think what happened in the DUB TYrone game is the solution to anything.

Kerry beat Cork by playing better football in both games last year, no reffing decisions, no intimidation more to do with yer lack of scoring forwards.

boxoid

14-02-2006, 04:02 PM

The Mob Spoke.

Langer Dan = Forum Idiot of the Year.

get a fucking room for yer love tiffs, fuck sake.

Lamps

14-02-2006, 04:12 PM

As for belts off the ball, every team is at that - and ye keep saying it here, but how come none of these incidents were brought up on TV or elsewhere.

i distinctly remember one incident in the game on saturday when the linesman flagged for a cork ball, 2 kerry players fucked him out of it and he subsequently reversed the decision. gooch got the ball and scored the game's best score and it was the turning point of the game. there was only a point in it at the time. no mention of it in the media, except for billy rightly saying darragh reffed the game.

things like this are never picked up on by commentators or journos because they bring the game into disrepute. rte will never ever comment on refs playing for a draw when sometimes it becomes plainly obvious that a ref is doing it from 5 mins to go. do we have to come back to tommy sugrue?

in last years muster final, darragh o se was losing his battle with nick murphy and hit him a belt in the ribs off the ball, puting him down injured for a few minutes. nothing was said or done about it. a few other incidents like this happened. there must have been at least 6 -7 minutes injury time. 2 min injury time were played. commentators never mentioned it although it was the only thing anyone in the crowd was talking about. next day, examiner never mentioned it.

i could go on on on about this. tyrone are cynical. kerry are just as cynical. kerry people crying about tyrone is just embarrasing

Lamps

14-02-2006, 04:13 PM

get a fucking room for yer love tiffs, fuck sake.

http://www.dyslexiahelp.co. uk/

POL

14-02-2006, 04:15 PM

Fat Tom

14-02-2006, 04:31 PM

i distinctly remember one incident in the game on saturday when the linesman flagged for a cork ball, 2 kerry players fucked him out of it and he subsequently reversed the decision. gooch got the ball and scored the game's best score and it was the turning point of the game. there was only a point in it at the time. no mention of it in the media, except for billy rightly saying darragh reffed the game.

things like this are never picked up on by commentators or journos because they bring the game into disrepute. rte will never ever comment on refs playing for a draw when sometimes it becomes plainly obvious that a ref is doing it from 5 mins to go. do we have to come back to tommy sugrue?

in last years muster final, darragh o se was losing his battle with nick murphy and hit him a belt in the ribs off the ball, puting him down injured for a few minutes. nothing was said or done about it. a few other incidents like this happened. there must have been at least 6 -7 minutes injury time. 2 min injury time were played. commentators never mentioned it although it was the only thing anyone in the crowd was talking about. next day, examiner never mentioned it.

i could go on on on about this. tyrone are cynical. kerry are just as cynical. kerry people crying about tyrone is just embarrasing

Point on Line Ball: It was a Kerry Ball! Tv replays showed it was.
Billy could bitch all day and night about Kerry.
Sure didn't he kick Bomber and Ogie out of his pub before.
Bitter and twisted.

As for Darragh, I only saw the highlights so can't comment on that.

As for injury time, you're dead right. But this is on a national scale. With all the stoppages there is never enough time added at the end, I totally agree.

But Kerry were far and away better than Cork in last years Munster Final.
Billy should concentrate on getting his own house in order before criticising other teams, stupid comments like we'll see who's smiling in September are embarassing for the man. Everyone knows Cork need a lot of work.

We don't have to come back to tommy sugrue, sure Kerry were the victims of it against Limerick in 04 when we were turned down a blatant free in front of the posts in the last minute.

I know, I thought RTE showed that the Darragh - Murphy incident was accidental. Remember Murphy going down. Sure look at Gooch incident, Dolan against Kildare, McMenamin kneeing your man - RTE and the GAA are largely to blame.

Kerry and a lot of teams are cycnical for belting.
But most people's gripe with Tyrone is time wasting, feigning injury and underhand tactics - like when they kicked the ball away at the end of the final last year and when Canavan took Gooch out of it.
I think you can agree you've never seen Kerry at this shit and I'd hate to see it if they did.

I am a firm believer in all sports of players being treated off the pitch instead of stopping games unless it is totally necessaty.

I thought it was pretty to see Tyrone time wasting because in all honesty if they had stook to the football they'd have beaten us by more.
Watching them last year, DUBs aRmagh etc they always looked by far the better team but they were never too far ahead. That is because of all the other shit they get wrapped up in.

Read my summing up Tyrone Post - Kieran Shannon sums up their antics nicely. It paints a different picture to Mickey Harte. I have no problem with tough hard teams - its the likes of Dooher who can give a shoudler but when he goes down he takes ten minutes to get up. I hate that shit.

I don't think any team is full of saints - Billy's comments about Noel O Leary were pretty pathetic in all fairness.

Lamps

14-02-2006, 04:46 PM

But most people's gripe with Tyrone is time wasting, feigning injury and underhand tactics - like when they kicked the ball away at the end of the final last year and when Canavan took Gooch out of it.
I think you can agree you've never seen Kerry at this shit and I'd hate to see it if they did.

marc o se did in the first half on saturday night, pretty innocuous moment in the first half but a cork forward was about to make a run forward, ball on other side of pitch, no officials looking and he took his man out out around the 40.

fair enough on the sideline, the offical got it wrong, but he changed his mind based on kerry imtimidation, in his view it was a cork ball.

Fat Tom

14-02-2006, 04:50 PM

Fair enough.
I didn't see it so can't comment.

As for winding up, fuck sake like the players aren't 16 anymore.

And Billy sounds like he is bitching and moaning again, I don't think there is any doubting the better team won as Cork's defence gave away too many silly frees.

A very young Cork team though and ye have some good underage players.

He souned Bitter and twisted, don't think anyone can deny that - he's commets about Gooch were especially sad.
He was ranting, everyone knows he hates Kerry more than anyone.

To be honest he seems like he is loosing it to me.

The Full Ham

14-02-2006, 04:58 PM

Again, I never complained about Tyrone or Armagh hitting or belting.
.
No you don't to be fair. but Kerry's management does.

Cork don't need to toughen up they need two corner backs and a few scoring forwards that they don't seem to have..
True they need that. But a bit of fighting spirit would help too. Cork have always done well when they were not afraid to dish it out. Dublin'89 and Meath in '90 are examples.

And comments about who'll be smiling in Septmeber are a bit over the top, I think everyone can recognise that Cork have a lot of work to do...
Yah that one made me wince too. Reality it seems is in short supply with many sporting managers.

Kerry beat Cork by playing better football in both games last year, no reffing decisions, no intimidation more to do with yer lack of scoring forwards.
True enough for the second game...they destroyed Cork. The game down the park was different. The differnece was the goal Kerry got and for that I felt their was a push on the Cork corner back by his man who went on to score the goal. my complaint here would not be agianst Kerry but against the Ref who missed the foul. It should have been a free out.

Still if cork can shut their mouths, not get wound up, work hard and not be afraid to get physical then maybe a decent run in this years championship is not unrealistic.

Johnnyc

14-02-2006, 05:31 PM

Fitz alert

good spot, well done

POL

14-02-2006, 05:44 PM

Kerry and Tyrone are quite similar, in that they are into sneaky, kind of dirt, as opposed to Armagh who I feel are a lot more manly in their "robust" play. There's far too many instances of Tyrone lads trying to get lads sent off

POL

14-02-2006, 05:45 PM

good spot, well done

there's actually quite a lot of Fitzy's to be found I've noticed, if you are on the look out

BlueSkies

14-02-2006, 06:02 PM

The 3 O' Sheas, Fitzmaurice (who looks like he's on the pill), Tom O' Sullivan and Galvin are all dirty players.

Joey Joe Joe

15-02-2006, 08:51 AM

GAA is for red neck, cow shit eating, upturned collared muck savages anyway. IMHO.

Johnnyc

15-02-2006, 09:34 AM

GAA is for red neck, cow shit eating, upturned collared muck savages anyway. IMHO.

suggestion noted

although it doesn't answer the question that was posed so come back with something worthwile to contribute or don't bother.

boxoid

15-02-2006, 10:42 AM

Cork are not slinging shit here

Interesting,

cheats to a man, in sport and in life.

shower of cunts, I love seeing the likes of Armagh getting stuck into them

The general concensus is ye are a shower of cheating pricks.
.

Kerry supporters can be right shit heads too.

Kerry and Tyrone are quite similar, in that they are into sneaky, kind of dirt,

Fat Tom

15-02-2006, 10:57 AM

No you don't to be fair. but Kerry's management does.

I can't think of one instance where they did. Analysts from Kerry complained about Tyrone's puke football in 03 - Analysts from all over the country found fault this year with their win at all costs mentality. I don't think you could argue with either but that said they are a class football team

True they need that. But a bit of fighting spirit would help too. Cork have always done well when they were not afraid to dish it out. Dublin'89 and Meath in '90 are examples.

Don't think this team lack it either. All yer missing is Fionán Murray!!!!

Yah that one made me wince too. Reality it seems is in short supply with many sporting managers.

Morgan is like Ian Paisley recruiting for IRA, he is so hated he makes fellas wanna go out and destroy Cork. But all credit too him he is very passionate about Cork GAA and you need people like that. His club loyalties shouldn't stop him dropping Geary or Murphy for Kieran O'Connor though.

True enough for the second game...they destroyed Cork. The game down the park was different. The differnece was the goal Kerry got and for that I felt their was a push on the Cork corner back by his man who went on to score the goal. my complaint here would not be agianst Kerry but against the Ref who missed the foul. It should have been a free out.

I don't think it was and Kerry played within themselves at the end, I don't think the result was ever in doubt to be honest.

Still if cork can shut their mouths, not get wound up, work hard and not be afraid to get physical then maybe a decent run in this years championship is not unrealistic.

I think this year will be tougher as we are on the Northerners side of the draw, but Cork are a good side and improving - forwards need to do more from play. Saying that I also believe catching the Northerners early on is probably better given their track record in recent years.

Langer Dan

15-02-2006, 05:10 PM

But Kerry were far and away better than Cork in last years Munster Final.
.

in their fuck. Were you even at that match?

You're a blinkered joke.

Lamps

15-02-2006, 05:12 PM

forget this shit, get in and vote in my smelly keeffa poll

(in the langers forum)

Fat Tom

15-02-2006, 06:04 PM

in their fuck. Were you even at that match?

You're a blinkered joke.

Dan boy I couldn't be bothered arguing with you.
You'd probably only manufacture someone else's opinion anyway.

Kerry were never in doubt of winning that match largley don't to the fact that Cork forwards aren't a threat from play and ye have two shit corner backs.

Yer best one was on the bench.

And yes I was at the match.

Johnnyc

15-02-2006, 06:04 PM

But Kerry were far and away better than Cork in last years Munster Final.

ah stop you're only taking the piss now

Fat Tom

15-02-2006, 06:06 PM

look we're hardly going to get consensus on here since ye are all from the same county.

what matters it anyway, Kerry won and destroyed Cork in the second game.

Johnnyc

15-02-2006, 06:13 PM

look we're hardly going to get consensus on here since ye are all from the same county.

what matters it anyway, Kerry won and destroyed Cork in the second game.

well the second game only went one way, but we were very lucky the first day out, we could have easily won it regardless of what you say.

Fat Tom

15-02-2006, 06:20 PM

The Full Ham

15-02-2006, 06:27 PM

I'd suggest watching the tape again and looking at the amount of chances Kerry barely missed in the first half.

Ye played well but ye never had enough scoring power to win the match.
After the goal Kerry were in 3rd gear and always looked like they could raise their game if necessary.

Ye really suffer in terms of the Gooch factor as ye are really limited in direct opposition to the position he plays.
On the match I'd respectfully disagree and I still think it was a push on our corner back....any replays online?But in terms of your overall assesment with our forwards and corner backs I tend to agree.

Fat Tom

15-02-2006, 06:29 PM

like I said does it really matter.
At the end of the day Kerry won

Langer Dan

16-02-2006, 07:26 PM

like I said does it really matter.
At the end of the day Kerry won

Just like Tyrone in the final.

The PROC Has spoken. Kerry are a cyincal underhand bunch of cheats

Rebelred

16-02-2006, 08:02 PM

Just like Tyrone in the final.

The PROC Has spoken. Kerry are a cyincal underhand bunch of cheats
may I point out though,they are not the first or only cynical team to play the game.
Meath late 80's,Meath mid to late 90's,Current Tyrone and Armagh teams, and perhaps even, if we're honest, Cork in the late 80's also.

My point is, all of these teams had success, because they were willing to do whatever it took to win, even if it meant some sly stuff off the ball,if it puts your opponents off their game,then you've got an advantage straight away over them.Perhaps this current Cork side need to be a little more cynical?Now I'm not talking about dirty shit here, but they do need to become a bit cuter when it comes to giving as good as you get

Fat Tom

16-02-2006, 08:24 PM

Just like Tyrone in the final.

The PROC Has spoken. Kerry are a cyincal underhand bunch of cheats

Cork People in anti Kerry Shocker.

Now Langer imagine if their was a Poll on Cork on a Kerry Forum, I wonder what the results would be.

As for cynical, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm what player was it that gouged Seamus in the eye last year?

Surely not one of the Saints on the Cork team.

Fat Tom

16-02-2006, 08:37 PM

Next Week: Pool Fans in Gary Neville is a cunt shocker.

Langer Dan

16-02-2006, 08:56 PM

Cork People in anti Kerry Shocker.

Now Langer imagine if their was a Poll on Cork on a Kerry Forum, I wonder what the results would be.

As for cynical, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm what player was it that gouged Seamus in the eye last year?

Surely not one of the Saints on the Cork team.

Don't like the result ,tough shit.

And theres plenty of people on this board not from cork.
Just look at yourself,
sour grapes.