come in No 10, your time is up

[Lamps]

so me, a man of little rugby knowledge, has been telling anyone who'll listen that ROG is a one dimensional limited player who's living on borrowed time.

how wrong was i, he's now added gifting tries and fresh air tackles to his considerable box of tricks that formerly only included postional kicking and being trampled over by polynesians whilst puffing his red little cheeks.

so there was me telling all and sundry that ireland can't scrummage, that a weak club pack that breaks even with the castres second string will crumble. well the bull set me straight on saturday, and what a player in the loose too, oh did i mention he's a great lifter in the lineout

the george best of irish rugby was showing us the silky skills of throwing a ball 20 yards and em, actually lets forget that one.

but what a comeback, defeat with honour was how the independent called it, a headline to make the heart proud, a moral victory for the boys. if only the french hadn't fluked a 40 point lead and decided the game was over we'd have trounced them.

never mind.

[Teknique]

Wheres Felipe when we need him , huh?

[Tube a Pringles]

Tis like getting someone from the red tops to sum it up.

Could someone go and super-impose a turnip on EOS head while we are at it?

[Proinsias]

so me, a man of little rugby knowledge, has been telling anyone who'll listen that ROG is a one dimensional limited player who's living on borrowed time.

how wrong was i, he's now added gifting tries and fresh air tackles to his considerable box of tricks that formerly only included postional kicking and being trampled over by polynesians whilst puffing his red little cheeks.

Name a good tackling outhalf and I'll give you an injured Johnny Wilkinson. It's the flanker's job to protect the outhalf. Besides, D'Arcy was as much to blame for the first try.
And who would your highness prefer? Jermey "relegate Harlequins" Staunton? Wavy Davey?

so there was me telling all and sundry that ireland can't scrummage, that a weak club pack that breaks even with the castres second string will crumble. well the bull set me straight on saturday, and what a player in the loose too, oh did i mention he's a great lifter in the lineout

i assume you're being sarcastic, as if you look, the Irish scrum was reversing on the loosehead side all day.

i think you'll find John Hayes isn't a loosehead prop.

the george best of irish rugby was showing us the silky skills of throwing a ball 20 yards and em, actually lets forget that one.

Hmm, I'll steer clear of this inane remark.


but what a comeback, defeat with honour was how the independent called it, a headline to make the heart proud, a moral victory for the boys. if only the french hadn't fluked a 40 point lead and decided the game was over we'd have trounced them.

never mind.

If you look at the stats, Ireland were, as Eddie O'Sullivan put it, the ones playing all the rugby. Far be it for me to defend Eddie o'Sullivan, but Ireland made a mere 35 tackles to France's 148. 6 of the French tries were down to basic handling errors. All of the Irish tries were from good, constructive play.

you mightn't have noticed the sea change in the way Ireland have played of late, but I certainly have. The sort of high-risk rugby they're playing at the moment is vunerable to very strong defences with quick breakaway runners (see NZ V SA last summer) which is what Ireland hit last saturday.
Personally I'm happier with this loss than a lot of other losses recently, at least we went out in style and were playing some absolutely fantastic rugby near the end.
If we can imporve on this and play an hour of that rugby against England, we'll slaughter them.

[Fat Tom]

35 tackles coz they missed their men for 6 tries.

[Fat Tom]

O Gara is a poor out half at present his form of 5 years ago is all but gone.
Stringer is a poor scrum half.
Murphy is class but playing poor.
O Driscoll is being doubled up on and isn't as good as before, but still class.
D'Arcy is nothing but a D4 nonce and one season wonder.
Horgan always was and will be hopeless.
Bowe wouldn't start for Munster.
Big Mal is a lost cause.
Leamy isn't international class.
Wallace is decent.
O Connell is world class.
Easterbury is poor.
Flannery needs more muscle and isn't brilliant on the line out yet.
Hayes is a good player.
Horan was a loss as Corrigan is a joke.

Stringer and O Gara are too one dimensional and O Gara stifles Murhpy's and O Driscoll's game.

[dotty]

Personally I'm happier with this loss than a lot of other losses recently, at least we went out in style and were playing some absolutely fantastic rugby near the end.
If we can imporve on this and play an hour of that rugby against England, we'll slaughter them.

your feelings on the match saturday depends on do ya look at the glass as half full or half empty,do ya look at the first 60 or the last 20,did we up our game (frankly yes because it couldnt get much worse) or did the french lower theirs?

the most important thing to come out of the game is we should go into the game with a poor albeit depleted welsh side a lot more confident than we should.

[MonTheHoops]

O Gara is a poor out half at present his form of 5 years ago is all but gone.
Stringer is a poor scrum half.
Murphy is class but playing poor.
O Driscoll is being doubled up on and isn't as good as before, but still class.
D'Arcy is nothing but a D4 nonce and one season wonder.
Horgan always was and will be hopeless.
Bowe wouldn't start for Munster.
Big Mal is a lost cause.
Leamy isn't international class.
Wallace is decent.
O Connell is world class.
Easterbury is poor.
Flannery needs more muscle and isn't brilliant on the line out yet.
Hayes is a good player.
Horan was a loss as Corrigan is a joke.

Stringer and O Gara are too one dimensional and O Gara stifles Murhpy's and O Driscoll's game.


Can you hum the tune of that? I'm finding it hard to pick it up. :)

[shammy feen]

so me, a man of little rugby knowledge, has been telling anyone who'll listen that ROG is a one dimensional limited player who's living on borrowed time.

how wrong was i, he's now added gifting tries and fresh air tackles to his considerable box of tricks that formerly only included postional kicking and being trampled over by polynesians whilst puffing his red little cheeks.

so there was me telling all and sundry that ireland can't scrummage, that a weak club pack that breaks even with the castres second string will crumble. well the bull set me straight on saturday, and what a player in the loose too, oh did i mention he's a great lifter in the lineout

the george best of irish rugby was showing us the silky skills of throwing a ball 20 yards and em, actually lets forget that one.

but what a comeback, defeat with honour was how the independent called it, a headline to make the heart proud, a moral victory for the boys. if only the french hadn't fluked a 40 point lead and decided the game was over we'd have trounced them.

never mind.

Yah roysh...high five!

[Lamps]

IRELAND GEORDAN MURPHY RATING: 2 Talented player but his second poor game in a row.
He did not impress in the autumn either. When you are chasing the game, you have to take measured chances.
Some of the options chosen by Murphy were unacceptable. It's his last chance in a fortnight.

SHANE HORGAN RATING: 8 You have to make a distinction between the players who look good for the whole match as opposed to the players who only look good for 20-25 minutes.

Horgan's huge heart and his utter commitment to be involved in almost every single thing which Ireland did well was heart-warming. An immense performance in adversity.

BRIAN O'DRISCOLL RATING: 4.5 He got going in the second half and was reasonably impressive. When he broke clean through twice, he never backed himself to "nish the score, instead choosing to of"oad. Made a lot of mistakes in contact and should have come off earlier than he did.

GORDON D'ARCY RATING: 4 This rush defence just does not suit him and they will have to work off a much deeper alignment. Looked pretty good when the game went crazy in the last 25 minutes.

TOMMY BOWE RATING: 0 The worst winger Ireland have picked since Jack Clarke and that's pretty bad. Have I mentioned he has no pace?

Well he can't do anything else either. An unbelievable selection. No coincidence that when Trimble came on the pitch he scored a try and burst a couple of French players for effect.

RONAN O'GARA RATING: 2 Did quite a number of things well but when your playmaker and chief instigator commits so many cardinal errors which give the game away a rating of two is all he deserves. Quite poor. I have seen better calls at a barn dance.

PETER STRINGER RATING: 8.5 A heroic performance. Given the quality of some of the ball he had to deal with and the fact that most of the French pack seemed to be bearing down on him most of the time, his distribution was excellent. Made a couple of very good breaks which caught the French cold and kept Ireland going when they were dead and buried.

REGGIE CORRIGAN RATING: 3 Didn't suffer as much as the tight outside and made a minimal contribution. Playing in that type of game for a 35year-old is a big ask.

JERRY FLANNERY RATING: 6 Not a bad performance from the Munster player.

Didn't give away too many turnovers at lineout time and kept at it with a reasonably forceful display in the loose.

JOHN HAYES RATING: 3 Put through the mincer in the first half by Olivier Milloud which meant that he had to reserve all of his time, energy, concentration and strength just to try and keep Ireland's scrum solid. Didn't get around to doing much else.

MALCOLM O'KELLY RATING: 4 Reasonable line-out performance but not much else. Will have to make his mind up whether he wants to play at the top level.

PAUL O'CONNELL RATING: 8.5 Yet again the best Irish player on the "eld. Simply sensational drive, enthusiasm and courage. On the ball on nearly every loose play. I'd like another 14 Paul O'Connells for Christmas.

SIMON EASTERBY RATING: 2.5 Exceptionally quiet game and this time it can't be attributed to unseen work done at the breakdown.

The quality of tackling and tackle counts not up to par.

DAVID WALLACE RATING: 8 An imperfect performance.

The French has obviously marked him out as Ireland's chief linebreaker close in. He never let up and really bossed the loose exchanges as the game wore on with some powerful runs and big hits.

DENIS LEAMY RATING: 7.5 His best performance in a championship but is still very inexperienced at the base of the scrum. Had dif"culty dealing with bad ball when Ireland's scrum went backwards.

SUBSTITUTES SIMON BEST RATING: 0 There are no lifeguards at the gene pool.

DONNCHA O'CALLAGHAN RATING: 6 Played very well when he came on but the game was over.

ANDREW TRIMBLE RATING: 7 Smashing stuff. Should be in for next game.

[liam2me]

put simply http://s2.excoboard.com/forums/8054/user/148416/240056.jpg

[dotty]

TOMMY BOWE RATING: 0 The worst winger Ireland have picked since Jack Clarke and that's pretty bad. Have I mentioned he has no pace?

Tommy Bowe should never play for Ireland again. The worst selection at wing since Jack Clarke.

coincidence or just a case of great minds thinking alike?

[Fat Tom]

coincidence or just a case of great minds thinking alike?
good work.
POL will have a field day on this.

[liam2me]

tommy bowe is alot better then he's being given credit for, i would bet not a single poster on here has seen him play for ulster in the CL (actually i would bet most on here don't watch CL full stop). he should be dropped, for now, as he has great potential and will do the business. murphy was way worse out thier on saturday, and he made trimble look alot worse (apart from 1 slip what exactly did trimble do wrong, especially compared to the 14 points murphy gifted the frogs?) yet there are no calls for murphy to be dropped

[Fat Tom]

The Celtic League a true mark of international potential.
Fact is when the chips have been down in the last two games he has been shown up as a no trick poney

[Rebel Yell]

The step up in class and intensity is a step too far for Bowe at the minute....Trimble has always impressed in his performances.....he deserves a start against Wales!!!

[Lamps]

coincidence or just a case of great minds thinking alike?

more like the return of Copy and Paste Tom

it didn't take long

[liam2me]

i think its too early for the guy, but after the WC i reckon bring him in, mainly the because EOS will be gone

[Fat Tom]

The mighty Dan has been exposed as a Fraud once again.
Passing off others knowledge as his own in an attempt to look smart.
Poor, piss poor in fact but the Langer that is Dan.

Surely his hubbie Sol will be impressed!

[Teknique]

See Niall fitz apprerciation thread for my theory on this Matter

[OC]

coincidence or just a case of great minds thinking alike?


yeah, amazing alright when he didnt know who Jack Clarke was this time last year when he was impressing us all with his knowledge in the

'Dempsey is the reason Ireland lose' thread,

[Proinsias]

Neil Francis was a particuarly poor rugby player himself, never afraid of shirking a tackle. There's a "Worst second row since Neil Francis" award due to a future player, but nobody will win that honour for a long time yet.

He's a poor writer and an even worst reporter.

Tommy bowe is an ok player, in the Anthony Horgan/John Kelly mold in that he's not up to international standard, but he'll do until we find someone else who is.

I think the backline for the next match should have D'Arcy and Murphy on the wings, Dempsey (if fit) at full back and Trimble and BOD in the centres.
Horgan on the bench, despite his decent showing, and the fact that he's managed to pick up a couple of ball skills over the years, what we want is flair for the game Eddie wants to play, so horses for courses.

Of course, Eddie probably doesn't have the balls to do it, but if he does and it works, I'll applaude him, I'm not cynical enough to kick a man when he's down yet deny him credit when the team is performing.

[the puerto rican feen]

Question:

How the hell can we afford to have a Lions Player on the bench ?

[OC]

Neil Francis was a particuarly poor rugby player himself, never afraid of shirking a tackle. There's a "Worst second row since Neil Francis" award due to a future player, but nobody will win that honour for a long time yet.

He's a poor writer and an even worst reporter.




He was a lazy shit and a true amateur when Ireland were truly amateur,
he admits the hardest he ever trained was when he was in school,
but he was not in the same league as people like Rigney

he had a couple of world class performances against Oz and England

[Fat Tom]

Question:

How the hell can we afford to have a Lions Player on the bench ?

Answer: shane byrne was a Lions player and he is shit.
But Donnacha should be on

[Fat Tom]

more like the return of Copy and Paste Tom

it didn't take long

BTW - I could catch you out too.
Unless you are Kieran Cunningham that is!

Write for the Star now Lamps?

Or are the headlines a coincidence?

Don't knock Dan if you are doing the same yourself.

[Lamps]

BTW - I could catch you out too.
Unless you are Kieran Cunningham that is!

Write for the Star now Lamps?

Or are the headlines a coincidence?

Don't knock Dan if you are doing the same yourself.

honestly?

what was it, come in no 10?

[Fat Tom]

honestly?

what was it, come in no 10?

It was the exact same headline you used.
Cries of Fraud can be heard within the PROC

[Lamps]

It was the exact same headline you used.
Cries of Fraud can be heard within the PROC

been in work since 7am, not seen anything but the online papers.
i'm too much of a pro to call Langer Dan on plagiarising in a thread if i plagiarised the title

[Fat Tom]

been in work since 7am, not seen anything but the online papers.
i'm too much of a pro to call Langer Dan on plagiarising in a thread if i plagiarised the title

fair enough.
I suppose.

[Langer Dan]

O Gara is a poor out half at present his form of 5 years ago is all but gone.
Stringer is a poor scrum half.
Murphy is class but playing poor.
O Driscoll is being doubled up on and isn't as good as before, but still class.
D'Arcy is nothing but a D4 nonce and one season wonder.
Horgan always was and will be hopeless.
Bowe wouldn't start for Munster.
Big Mal is a lost cause.
Leamy isn't international class.
Wallace is decent.
O Connell is world class.
Easterbury is poor.
Flannery needs more muscle and isn't brilliant on the line out yet.
Hayes is a good player.
Horan was a loss as Corrigan is a joke.

Stringer and O Gara are too one dimensional and O Gara stifles Murhpy's and O Driscoll's game.

So Darcy is a kiddie fiddler and 24 year old Denis Leamy's career at international level is over?


Intriguing , Im fascinated by your views and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Proinsias]

Question:

How the hell can we afford to have a Lions Player on the bench ?
I'd like to point out that Malcom O'Kelly has also played for the Lions.

[Fat Tom]

So Darcy is a kiddie fiddler and 24 year old Denis Leamy's career at international level is over?


Intriguing , Im fascinated by your views and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

What like the other newsletters you use to plagiarise people's opinions.

[Langer Dan]

What like the other newsletters you use to plagiarise people's opinions.


eh?

Dont worry biy, no one will ever be making the mistake of trying to adopt your sentiments as their own.


Some loo-laa all the same.

[the puerto rican feen]

I'd like to point out that Malcom O'Kelly has also played for the Lions.


oops :silly:

I was referring to donnacha o'callaghan

was o'Kelly on the last lions tour or the one before that ?


watched the 97 lions DVS last week, excellent stuff

[boxoid]

IRELAND GEORDAN MURPHY RATING: 2 Talented player but his second poor game in a row.
He did not impress in the autumn either. When you are chasing the game, you have to take measured chances.
Some of the options chosen by Murphy were unacceptable. It's his last chance in a fortnight.

SHANE HORGAN RATING: 8 You have to make a distinction between the players who look good for the whole match as opposed to the players who only look good for 20-25 minutes.

Horgan's huge heart and his utter commitment to be involved in almost every single thing which Ireland did well was heart-warming. An immense performance in adversity.

BRIAN O'DRISCOLL RATING: 4.5 He got going in the second half and was reasonably impressive. When he broke clean through twice, he never backed himself to "nish the score, instead choosing to of"oad. Made a lot of mistakes in contact and should have come off earlier than he did.

GORDON D'ARCY RATING: 4 This rush defence just does not suit him and they will have to work off a much deeper alignment. Looked pretty good when the game went crazy in the last 25 minutes.

TOMMY BOWE RATING: 0 The worst winger Ireland have picked since Jack Clarke and that's pretty bad. Have I mentioned he has no pace?

Well he can't do anything else either. An unbelievable selection. No coincidence that when Trimble came on the pitch he scored a try and burst a couple of French players for effect.

RONAN O'GARA RATING: 2 Did quite a number of things well but when your playmaker and chief instigator commits so many cardinal errors which give the game away a rating of two is all he deserves. Quite poor. I have seen better calls at a barn dance.

PETER STRINGER RATING: 8.5 A heroic performance. Given the quality of some of the ball he had to deal with and the fact that most of the French pack seemed to be bearing down on him most of the time, his distribution was excellent. Made a couple of very good breaks which caught the French cold and kept Ireland going when they were dead and buried.

REGGIE CORRIGAN RATING: 3 Didn't suffer as much as the tight outside and made a minimal contribution. Playing in that type of game for a 35year-old is a big ask.

JERRY FLANNERY RATING: 6 Not a bad performance from the Munster player.

Didn't give away too many turnovers at lineout time and kept at it with a reasonably forceful display in the loose.

JOHN HAYES RATING: 3 Put through the mincer in the first half by Olivier Milloud which meant that he had to reserve all of his time, energy, concentration and strength just to try and keep Ireland's scrum solid. Didn't get around to doing much else.

MALCOLM O'KELLY RATING: 4 Reasonable line-out performance but not much else. Will have to make his mind up whether he wants to play at the top level.

PAUL O'CONNELL RATING: 8.5 Yet again the best Irish player on the "eld. Simply sensational drive, enthusiasm and courage. On the ball on nearly every loose play. I'd like another 14 Paul O'Connells for Christmas.

SIMON EASTERBY RATING: 2.5 Exceptionally quiet game and this time it can't be attributed to unseen work done at the breakdown.

The quality of tackling and tackle counts not up to par.

DAVID WALLACE RATING: 8 An imperfect performance.

The French has obviously marked him out as Ireland's chief linebreaker close in. He never let up and really bossed the loose exchanges as the game wore on with some powerful runs and big hits.

DENIS LEAMY RATING: 7.5 His best performance in a championship but is still very inexperienced at the base of the scrum. Had dif"culty dealing with bad ball when Ireland's scrum went backwards.

SUBSTITUTES SIMON BEST RATING: 0 There are no lifeguards at the gene pool.

DONNCHA O'CALLAGHAN RATING: 6 Played very well when he came on but the game was over.

ANDREW TRIMBLE RATING: 7 Smashing stuff. Should be in for next game.

would that be word for word or in your own opinion....

a lot you know about it boy... it was only a while back you were asking about the rules of rugby...

an you go on about the "Munster blow-in fans"

[Lamps]

would that be word for word or in your own opinion....

a lot you know about it boy... it was only a while back you were asking about the rules of rugby...

an you go on about the "Munster blow-in fans"

you idiot

read the post title

[boxoid]

BTW - I could catch you out too.
Unless you are Kieran Cunningham that is!

Write for the Star now Lamps?

Or are the headlines a coincidence?

Don't knock Dan if you are doing the same yourself.


ya he writes for the women's section.