1-1 at home to Everton, as bad as it gets?

[ho chi feen]

Okay, not quite, but still... in all fucking fairness.....

[shammy feen]

Okay, not quite, but still... in all fucking fairness.....

what you need is Alonso and Gerrard in midfield....obviousl y...

[Fat Tom]

Smith is a fucking waste of space.
Scholes was class yesterday(bar the one fuck up) he is crying out for someone talented next to him.
Giggs did well and we defended all right bar when we went all out attack.
Smith should be shot for his defending for the goal, Neville shouldn't have lost position but Smith just stood there like the tool that he is.
He is clueless as a central midfielder, then he can't even strike the ball for a near open goal.
Park tried hard but final ball needs work, Ronaldo was awful again when he came on - no intelligence and doesn't even seem to be able to beat his man now. He needs to recapture form fast.
Can't understand Ferguson not Playing Mikael on the left and Wes in the middle, and that fucker Silvestre would wanna stop with those fucking useless long balls.
Rooney and Saha tried hard.
Much and all as I love Rooney, fucking class act - his finishing against West Ham and again yesterday left a lot to be desired but it will come.

We should have been 5 up at half time, very similar game to all last total domination nothing to show - almost caught on hop.

Rio did well, Van Der Saar shocking for goal.

Before though you always expected United to sneak one at the end, thats not gonna happen with hopeless long balls.

Dunno how many times yesterday Everton won the ball in air from kick out with no one near them - Smith is a fucking joke.

A couple of good tackles that could go either way here and there but all in all he is shocking.

Still though fair play for effort, we deserved more than a point and if we keep up that form it'll come.
On another day we'd have been out the gate at half time.

[STEVIEG]

Poor result but as bad as it gets, no
United got 3 more points off Everton than last year and it's likely that they will take points of other teams again now that they are organised. It just means the league is now even more unlikely than it was but we probably knew that anyway!

[Rolo Feen]

ferguson needs to drop Silvestre and bring in Pique. and yes i think its that simple.

even brown instead of silvestre. but christ get silvestre out of central defence!
his defending is calamitous, runs on luck the majority of the time. and his long balls work at a rate of 1 in 20, and long balls are all he does all match every match.

Smith really is looking out of his depth too at the moment.
smashing performance against Chelsea, but he's been pityful since then, not imposing himself, just chucking himself around the place and mouthing off. he's not helping the team and thats the main point.

and ronaldo, i dunno if the death of his father has really fucked him up or what, but since then he has been abismal. twice has time to concentrate on the cross and still couldnt lift it over the first man! unless hes taking men on and doing what wants he's of no real benefit on the pitch, and you cant let him play as a free spirit cos he still does fuck all then apart from looking fancy. he needs sorting out big time, maturity wise and footballing wise. gonna get a one match ban now too for flicking the benfica fans.

i'm still convinced Saha has no place at united also, and though he's still getting himself back to fitness and sharpness, he just doesnt look, to me, to have what it takes to lead the line in the absense of Ruud.

[STEVIEG]

and ronaldo, i dunno if the death of his father has really fucked him up or what, but since then he has been abismal. twice has time to concentrate on the cross and still couldnt lift it over the first man! unless hes taking men on and doing what wants he's of no real benefit on the pitch, and you cant let him play as a free spirit cos he still does fuck all then apart from looking fancy. he needs sorting out big time, maturity wise and footballing wise. gonna get a one match ban now too for flicking the benfica fans.



Yup, he's having a nightmare at the moment
Hope the real Ronaldo turns up asap!

[kipto]

Yup, he's having a nightmare at the moment
Hope the real Ronaldo turns up asap!

....isn't he in madrid?

[STEVIEG]

Na that's the "Round Ronaldo"

[Rebelred]

good first half, lacked ideas and creativity to break everton down second half.I expect more of same for rest of season.
Played quite well at times,thought Pip had a good game for the toffees too.Could he not have done what fletcher/smith try to do???

[Langer Dan]

Earra it's pathetic, whilst Chelsea gain ground by beating teams like Wigan and us dropping points to the likes of Everton then we've no chance of catching em.

YOu have to win your home games in Europe and in the league, we've done neither this season.

[Rebelred]

Earra it's pathetic, whilst Chelsea gain ground by beating teams like Wigan and us dropping points to the likes of Everton then we've no chance of catching em.

YOu have to win your home games in Europe and in the league, we've done neither this season.
home record was nothing too special last year either I recall.Problem is we're easily stopped in midfield.Smith,when closed down, immediately runs out of ideas,and scholes has to drop back to rescue him,or he has to pass back to the defence.we then go about passing sideways, backwards,sideways,b ackwards,then silvestre picks it up and hoofs a useless long ball to the oppositions keeper.must have happened 5 times yesterday.We lose all momentum once smith gets the ball

[Langer Dan]

home record was nothing too special last year either I recall.Problem is we're easily stopped in midfield.Smith,when closed down, immediately runs out of ideas,and scholes has to drop back to rescue him,or he has to pass back to the defence.we then go about passing sideways, backwards,sideways,b ackwards,then silvestre picks it up and hoofs a useless long ball to the oppositions keeper.must have happened 5 times yesterday.We lose all momentum once smith gets the ball

Earra he's not a midfielder, simple as that.

To qoute a certain pundit, "Roy was right"

[Rebelred]

Earra he's not a midfielder, simple as that.

To qoute a certain pundit, "Roy was right"
"about everything!"

[Fat Tom]

good first half, lacked ideas and creativity to break everton down second half.I expect more of same for rest of season.
Played quite well at times,thought Pip had a good game for the toffees too.Could he not have done what fletcher/smith try to do???

Yeah, himself and Nicky would be better than those two jokers.

See Fletchers failed attempt a barely rolling ball near the touchline.
Horrendous.

I had big hopes for him, he is young yet but like Ronaldo there is no improvement sice time of emergence whatsoever,

[Fat Tom]

home record was nothing too special last year either I recall.Problem is we're easily stopped in midfield.Smith,when closed down, immediately runs out of ideas,and scholes has to drop back to rescue him,or he has to pass back to the defence.we then go about passing sideways, backwards,sideways,b ackwards,then silvestre picks it up and hoofs a useless long ball to the oppositions keeper.must have happened 5 times yesterday.We lose all momentum once smith gets the ball

Big time.

Solution - Silvestre to left back, Wes in middle.
I'd play Flectcher before Smith in the middle and thats saying a lot.
He is a fucking clown in there.

And he ain't up to much, bar work rate, up front either.
Missed a sitter yesterday.

[Rebelred]

Big time.

Solution - Silvestre to left back, Wes in middle.
I'd play Flectcher before Smith in the middle and thats saying a lot.
He is a fucking clown in there.

And he ain't up to much, bar work rate, up front either.
Missed a sitter yesterday.
Silvestre to bench. no concentration whatsoever.You could make a case for him at left back with Gabby out I suppose.Brown is a better defender,always has been,never got the chance to show it with the injuries in the past,But i'd have him in the team over silvestre any day

[dotty]

Silvestre to bench. no concentration whatsoever.You could make a case for him at left back with Gabby out I suppose.Brown is a better defender,always has been,never got the chance to show it with the injuries in the past,But i'd have him in the team over silvestre any day

wes is a far better defender imo,silvestre only saving grace it appears is his left peg,fergie obviously likes the balance in the heart of the united defence..

[Fat Tom]

Silvestre to bench. no concentration whatsoever.You could make a case for him at left back with Gabby out I suppose.Brown is a better defender,always has been,never got the chance to show it with the injuries in the past,But i'd have him in the team over silvestre any day

Me too.
Toss of a coin between Mikael and Johnno.
Maybe if he hits the same passes from the left they will reach their intended target?

[Del]

I for one am not a big fan of Wes Brown, he makes a lot of mistakes in games. I would play Silvestre ahead of him any day of the week