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markinmanc
11-10-2005, 11:24 AM
Morrison and Keane. Scoring a goal won't be enough for Elliot to keep his place. He'll only be on the bench because Duff is injured.

MonTheHoops
11-10-2005, 11:26 AM
Can I propose Connolly & Morrission?

PabloDollbox
11-10-2005, 11:32 AM
No, you cant.


Seriously though, I really dont think it matters. Theyre all shite so our best hope for a goal is an O.G.

Is Duff definitely out??

dotty
11-10-2005, 11:34 AM
yeah!

markinmanc
11-10-2005, 11:37 AM
Is 3-5-2 out of the question?

a feen in the smack
11-10-2005, 11:41 AM
has to be morrison and doyle. consistent goalscoring this season. he knows where the goal is. by the beard of zeus.

PabloDollbox
11-10-2005, 11:42 AM
yeah!

Shite! We're fucked. Anyone want this so?


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/PabloDollery/Random/IMG_0657.jpg

MonTheHoops
11-10-2005, 11:44 AM
has to be morrison and doyle. consistent goalscoring this season. he knows where the goal is. by the beard of zeus.


You sure that's not a feen on the smack?

PabloDollbox
11-10-2005, 11:46 AM
It aint gonna happen, but you know its worth a try. Cant be worse than what we've put out so far.

PabloDollbox
11-10-2005, 11:54 AM
OUT!


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/PabloDollery/Random/223309.jpg


...............


IN!


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/PabloDollery/Random/mob4145_1126362044.j pg

Widebhoy
11-10-2005, 08:35 PM
I've great respect for Morrison. He might not be the most gifted player on the planet but he certainly gives %110 when playing for Ireland, he'll run forever, chase everything. Unlike that lazy shit Keane.

Langer Dan
11-10-2005, 08:48 PM
.The front two will be?


............SHIT?

markinmanc
11-10-2005, 08:56 PM
............SHIT?

Goes without saying, especially with no service.

Langer Dan
11-10-2005, 09:05 PM
Goes without saying, especially with no service.

to be honest the sooner Kerr goes the better.Watching Ireland under Kerr has been abysmal.When are the clowns in Merrion Square going to bite the bullet and get a top class manager running the international set-up?

as for weds night,I suspect Kerr will opt for Keane and Clin-ton up front.

storysham
11-10-2005, 09:25 PM
Keane and morrison, if either has done fuck all at half time, change one.

Del
12-10-2005, 02:23 AM
most people on here want Kerr out, at the time of his appointment what were the alternatives?

Superdave
12-10-2005, 02:59 AM
most people on here want Kerr out, at the time of his appointment what were the alternatives?

too right. The majority were in favour of his appointment. it's easy to knock, lads.

Who else was in the running back then? Robson? Pah! Kinnear? what has he done since wimbledon? batman? has no coaching experience.

Simple fact is there's no quality there. compare that team to the one Big Jack had; Keepers are on a par. Finnan V Irwin? neither are poor but irwin was a class above. harte V Stauton? no contest. McGrath and Moran V Dunne and Breen? holy crap! kinsella, kilbane, whoever V Keane (prime), Townsend, Houghton! Duff V Sheedy/staunton we've improved. Up front is not even open to debate.

we need healy, miller, partridge etc to start making proper break throughs and start building again.

MonTheHoops
12-10-2005, 08:06 AM
most people on here want Kerr out, at the time of his appointment what were the alternatives?

Kenny Dalglish as it happens.

Steven
12-10-2005, 10:17 AM
Lads, why isn't McGeady with the squad?

Rebelred
12-10-2005, 10:27 AM
Lads, why isn't McGeady with the squad?
perhaps he should try getting into the celtic squad first

markinmanc
12-10-2005, 10:42 AM
most people on here want Kerr out, at the time of his appointment what were the alternatives?

Stuck with MM and not give in to the witchunt? This debacle will happen with the next manager - players with press connection will undermine the manager, results will suffer... and so on.

I mean, what's the betting that Givens will be the next manager?

'Gets on with the lads.'

Rebelred
12-10-2005, 10:44 AM
Stuck with MM and not give in to the witchunt? This debacle will happen with the next manager - players with press connection will undermine the manager, results will suffer... and so on.

I mean, what's the betting that Givens will be the next manager?

'Gets on with the lads.'
the fact is the media have decided its time to get Kerr out,same way as the tabloids decided it was time MM went too.everyone jumps onto the Roy Curtis and Co. bandwagon and decide that we should make more rash managerial changes for the sake of it

Gobadán
12-10-2005, 10:46 AM
The front two will be?

Useless.


There isn't a hope in hell of Ireland getting to the World Cup finals.



Dixi
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markinmanc
12-10-2005, 10:56 AM
SUPRISE!!!!!

http://football.guardian.co .uk/News_Story/0,1563,1590003,00.ht ml



"If Robbie plays, I'm confident that he will be in very good form," Kerr said. "He's better for Saturday's match. He's our leading goalscorer, and he's a young man. In coming on for Spurs he has shown he can score goals, and we could do with a vital goal or two from him now. But he has the desire, as we saw late in the game against Cyprus."

Keane it is then. I assume Morrison up front with him. Long balls from the back. Elliot and Doyle might as well stay at home and watch it on the telly.

Republic of Ireland (4-4-2): Given (Newcastle); Carr (Newcastle), Cunningham (Birmingham City), R Dunne (Manchester City), Harte (Levante); A Reid (Tottenham), Holland (Charlton Athletic), Kavanagh (Wigan), Kilbane (Everton); Keane (Tottenham), Morrison (Crystal Palace).

STEVIEG
12-10-2005, 12:10 PM
most people on here want Kerr out, at the time of his appointment what were the alternatives?

True, there's not even a lot of options now
Anyway, it's not over yet and hopefully they will be fired up tonight

Irish set for Keane rallying cry

Republic boss Brian Kerr hinted that Roy Keane could make an emotional plea to his players ahead of Wednesday's must-win qualifier against Switzerland.

Keane misses the World Cup qualifier in Dublin with injury, but Kerr is hoping that he will be present in the dressing room to give the side a crucial lift.

"It was a general conversation about how he was coming on himself and about the Cyprus game," said Kerr.

"I didn't go into any detail, but I've left it up to him about the game."

The presence of Keane giving an emotional team talk ahead of Wednesday's game against the Group 4 challengers could make all the difference.

Under pressure Kerr was a far more relaxed and positive figure during training after his side's narrow 1-0 win to keep the Republic's World Cup hopes alive.

"There's no need for us to try and go out and win the game in the first 10 to 15 minutes," he said.

"But for every game in this group we've approached it by saying `let's go and win it, let's have a go'."

steve sanders
12-10-2005, 12:27 PM
i'd go with keane and morrison upfront. i can't see us creating much and keane can produce a goal on his own. none of the others can. morrison is strong and fairly quick which we will need.

our best chance is a 1-0 with a penalty. i think if we score early we are fucked - we got away with it against cyrpus but won't against the swiss.

dirtyfingers
12-10-2005, 12:59 PM
the team that destroyed spain in 2002:
Given , Gary Kelly (Quinn 55) , Staunton ( Cunningham 50) , Gary Breen , Harte ( Connolly 82) , Finnan , Kinsella , Holland , Kilbane , Duff , R. Keane



the team that nearly folded to cyprus:
Given; Carr, Dunne, Cunningham, O'Shea; Finnan, Kavanagh, Kilbane, Duff; R Keane, Elliott.



... what's happened?

Gobadán
12-10-2005, 01:14 PM
... what's happened?

A dearth of talent?

Forget about beating the Swiss. The dream ended long ago. And don't blame Kerr, we just don't have the talent at the moment.


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markinmanc
12-10-2005, 01:19 PM
Is it a matter of talent, or a matter of the will to suceed, to prescence of slef-belief?

Given has pride in the shirt (Roy) Keane, Kavanagh.... as for the rest?

Langer Dan
12-10-2005, 02:07 PM
most people on here want Kerr out, at the time of his appointment what were the alternatives?

the alternative would have been to appoint someone, anyone with senior professional experience.

Kerr got the job because he was a cheap, hack happying alternative for the clowns from Merrion Square. The Appointement and Employment of Irish mangers in recent years is a litany of stupidity on the F.A.I's behalf.

I said when Kerr was appointed that he should never have gotten the job, and previous to this the F.A.I handed a contract extension to Mick the Prick for failing to get us to two successive major tournaments (wc 98, euro 00), any other governing body in Europe would have been handing him his P45. The F.A.I have a heavy load to bear in responsibility for the subsequent debacle in Saipan.Lets not even start on the hilarious waste of money that was Eircom Park...........

Until we have at the very least a competant ruling body in Irish Soccer then we are just going to continue to lurch from one crisis to another.

Sound
12-10-2005, 02:09 PM
A dearth of talent?

Forget about beating the Swiss. The dream ended long ago. And don't blame Kerr, we just don't have the talent at the moment.


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Thats a bit defeatist to say the least.

Fuck that, rage against the dying of the light lads and give those Toblerone munchers what for.

General Michael Collins
12-10-2005, 03:09 PM
Would like to wish the lads all the best tonight.Will need a vastly improved performance on Saturday night if we are to make the play offs.Fingers crossed.

Langer Dan
12-10-2005, 03:11 PM
Would like to wish the lads all the best tonight.Will need a vastly improved performance on Saturday night if we are to make the play offs.Fingers crossed.

earra realistically, we're fucked.

dreading another 90 min's of Ker-inspired drudgery.

Del
13-10-2005, 12:25 AM
Kenny Dalglish as it happens.


YA and didn't he do a marvelous job with your team, not to mention Newcastle.

Fact is Kerr was the best of a bad bunch, at the time the only other guy worth considering was Troussier, the guy who managed South Africa, Japan and a few others in the world cup. Imagine the uproar if he was appointed and then failed.

There's no point in sacking Kerr unless we get either O' Neill or O' Leary, there's no one else!

Superdave
13-10-2005, 12:39 AM
I think we should follow the republicans lead in california and break the mould. who says we need a football man when they didn't need a politian to tackle the massive problems there. So, my nomination for the next manager of the Irish Soccer team is .....

Face from the A-Team.

Popular, handsome, killer with the ladies. he's got it all.

Del
13-10-2005, 12:44 AM
I think we should follow the republicans lead in california and break the mould. who says we need a football man when they didn't need a politian to tackle the massive problems there. So, my nomination for the next manager of the Irish Soccer team is .....

Face from the A-Team.

Popular, handsome, killer with the ladies. he's got it all.

With McGuivar as the possible number 2???

General Michael Collins
13-10-2005, 02:44 PM
YA and didn't he do a marvelous job with your team, not to mention Newcastle.

Fact is Kerr was the best of a bad bunch, at the time the only other guy worth considering was Troussier, the guy who managed South Africa, Japan and a few others in the world cup. Imagine the uproar if he was appointed and then failed.

There's no point in sacking Kerr unless we get either O' Neill or O' Leary, there's no one else!
Would have to take you up on that point.Kenny won three leagues and two fa cups in five years as manager of LFC.He also brought blackburn up to the top flight and won another league title with them.Yes he didnt do very well with newcastle,but he managed to get them to an fa cup final.He wasnt the manager at Celtic,John Barnes was.Kenny was director of football there.

Del
14-10-2005, 01:02 AM
Would have to take you up on that point.Kenny won three leagues and two fa cups in five years as manager of LFC.He also brought blackburn up to the top flight and won another league title with them.Yes he didnt do very well with newcastle,but he managed to get them to an fa cup final.He wasnt the manager at Celtic,John Barnes was.Kenny was director of football there.

Fair enough he did do a great job with the pool and a good job at Blackburn but he nearly got them reglegated the following season ( I think I'm right in saying that)

I seriously don't think he's the right man for the job. Along with half the people on this board, O'Leary and O' Neill are the only ones worth considering.

Another thing, if Kerr didn't get the job a few years ago, the majority of the country would be saying that he should have got it

Superdave
14-10-2005, 02:32 AM
Another thing, if Kerr didn't get the job a few years ago, the majority of the country would be saying that he should have got it


very fair point. people are very fickle when it comes to this crack. O Leary won't do any better than Kerr and McCarthy.

Give the job to face and MacGuyver.