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eric2k5
20-08-2005, 08:07 PM
Watched the Sunderland match today. We deserved to win but a lacklustre win at that.

Cisse wasted a fair few that Owen would bury. The two of them would be a great partnership. Both speedy and Cisse needs to learn how to finish better.

It seems everyone at Anfield wants Owen except for Benitez. Maybe he's waiting for Baros to go. His inaction here could prove very costly in the future.

Gerrard and Owen together again would be fantastic. They have a special understanding.

aahjay
20-08-2005, 08:11 PM
I think for Benitez, it more that he wants a central defender and right sided midfielder (I notice Solano was benched today).

I imagine he would be ok with Owen if it didn't stop him from getting those positions sorted.

Langer Dan
20-08-2005, 09:00 PM
shit match, i turned over to watch Laois get annhilated by the filthy Armagh scuts.

I repeat my point about not rating Cisse, he's not a top quality forward, ye'd be better off holding onto Milan.

mezdupmaiden
21-08-2005, 06:45 AM
Owen? hmmmmmm........ would he be the first player in history to go back to a team?or have others? I'm ignorant on that matter!

he was always too injured...sure he sat on the bench most of a season and a bit.. off and on like a menstrual cycle... er no...not a menstrual cycle.. that's regular! bet he kicking himself now like!

aahjay
21-08-2005, 10:59 AM
Owen? hmmmmmm........ would he be the first player in history to go back to a team?or have others? I'm ignorant on that matter!

he was always too injured...sure he sat on the bench most of a season and a bit.. off and on like a menstrual cycle... er no...not a menstrual cycle.. that's regular! bet he kicking himself now like!

Ahem, loads have of course - Ian Rush is the first that springs immediately to mind.

storysham
21-08-2005, 12:55 PM
Didnt teddy sheringham play at spurs twice

raZor
21-08-2005, 01:23 PM
there's aload that have gone back...

Ian Rush
Teddy Sheringham
Pat Morley ;-)
Steve Staunton went back to Liverpool as well

Cisse would be better off playing up front with a partner rather than out right thats why we need a winger Sissoko is a central midfielder.

Morientes is looking good though himself and Owen would be an ok partnership.

aahjay
21-08-2005, 01:28 PM
Morientes is looking good though himself and Owen would be an ok partnership.

Morientes - He went back to Real.

Well back from a loan spell so does that count?

Agree he is looking good. As they say form is temporary class is ...

mezdupmaiden
21-08-2005, 02:07 PM
there's aload that have gone back...

Ian Rush
Teddy Sheringham
Pat Morley ;-)
Steve Staunton went back to Liverpool as well

Cisse would be better off playing up front with a partner rather than out right thats why we need a winger Sissoko is a central midfielder.

Morientes is looking good though himself and Owen would be an ok partnership.
O yea... i forgot about rush...

wayne gayle
21-08-2005, 02:33 PM
It seems everyone at Anfield wants Owen except for Benitez. Maybe he's waiting for Baros to go. His inaction here could prove very costly in the future.


I have a theory as to why Benitez doesn't want him back:he's still pissed with him over the way he left us on the eve of last season.
I don't blame him actually, it was a real low stroke:leaving just before the end of the transfer deadline so Benitez had no time to sign a replacement.
But I'd say that was more Owen's agents' doing than Owen himself. Tony Stephens is his name I think (prick).
Benitez doesn't seem like a vindictive man I know but maybe he's thinking to himself "revenge is a dish best served cold".
Personally I have no sympathy for Owen and would not want him back.
He made his bed 12 months ago and now he has to lie in it.Tough.

aahjay
21-08-2005, 03:08 PM
The key here is Parry and more importantly Gerrard seem to want him back.

The desire of the latter could be crucial.

mezdupmaiden
21-08-2005, 03:14 PM
Gerrard is fawking fine and an intelligent cookie also... be interesting should the masses sway that Owen returns!

Sound
21-08-2005, 05:41 PM
I repeat my point about not rating Cisse, he's not a top quality forward, ye'd be better off holding onto Milan.

No-one cares.

shammy feen
22-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Gerrard is fawking fine and an intelligent cookie also... be interesting should the masses sway that Owen returns!

One thing Gerrard is not is intelligent. He's a fine footballer, but hes not the brightest spark.

STEVIEG
22-08-2005, 09:47 AM
more importantly Gerrard seem to want him back.

The desire of the latter could be crucial.

I can't help but thinking that guy has too much influence over his club

Lynott
22-08-2005, 10:45 AM
Ahem, loads have of course - Ian Rush is the first that springs immediately to mind.
Sparky is another.

de mange
22-08-2005, 10:53 AM
I have a theory as to why Benitez doesn't want him back:he's still pissed with him over the way he left us on the eve of last season.
I don't blame him actually, it was a real low stroke:leaving just before the end of the transfer deadline so Benitez had no time to sign a replacement.
But I'd say that was more Owen's agents' doing than Owen himself. Tony Stephens is his name I think (prick).
Benitez doesn't seem like a vindictive man I know but maybe he's thinking to himself "revenge is a dish best served cold".
Personally I have no sympathy for Owen and would not want him back.
He made his bed 12 months ago and now he has to lie in it.Tough.

good post.. my thoughts on it all exactly.. owen hung liverpool out to dry last season and left the club that developed him into the player madrid wanted, leaving for a fraction of his value because pool had no choice, .. now only newcastle want him and hes looking for pool to dig deep.. tough shit.. go play with souness and his bunch of idiots and fight it out with sunderland et al

STEVIEG
22-08-2005, 10:56 AM
Or maybe even Wigan!!!!!!
From bbc.co.uk/sports



Wigan multi-millionaire owner Dave Whelan is trying to sign Michael Owen from Real Madrid for £10m. (Daily Mirror)

STEVIEG
22-08-2005, 11:04 AM
good post.. my thoughts on it all exactly.. owen hung liverpool out to dry last season and left the club that developed him into the player madrid wanted, leaving for a fraction of his value because pool had no choice, .. now only newcastle want him and hes looking for pool to dig deep.. tough shit.. go play with souness and his bunch of idiots and fight it out with sunderland et al


Yup if i agree with ye on this if i was a Liverpool fan i'd be well pissed off with him. The funny thing about the whole thing is , the English media seem to make out that its almost imperative that United or Liverpool or someone buy him back to help Engerlunds cause in the World Cup. I somehow doubt Fergie or Rafa give two shits but you'd swear everyone had a moral obligation to help Sven's bungling idiots to their so-called destiny.

Still a great player mind-you.

MonTheHoops
22-08-2005, 02:33 PM
Did anyone see the "Free Michael" thing done in the Kop end the other day? A bit vomit-inducing I thought and a bit cheeky telling the manager who to go spend his money on. Benitez has already said he needs a centre back and a right winger. What happens if Liverpool sign Owen and another big side hitch up their skirt and wave at him?

Benitez should be left to pick and choose who he spends his cash on. Though who knows if Owen isn't in his plans anyway.

Philby
22-08-2005, 03:12 PM
Did anyone see the "Free Michael" thing done in the Kop end the other day? A bit vomit-inducing I thought and a bit cheeky telling the manager who to go spend his money on. Benitez has already said he needs a centre back and a right winger. What happens if Liverpool sign Owen and another big side hitch up their skirt and wave at him?

Benitez should be left to pick and choose who he spends his cash on. Though who knows if Owen isn't in his plans anyway.

Easy mistake to make, the banner was actually in support of Michael Shields (the liverpool supporter jailed for a vicious assault in Bulgaria which another man has already admitted commiting)

For more info - http://www.freemichaelshiel ds.org/

Would agree wholeheartedly with the "benitez knows best" point of view. If he wants Owen back then fine, if not then that's fine too. He has a vision for the future of the club & I trust him to recruit the players he thinks best fit that vision.

FYI - I don't think Parry/Moores/Gerrard would be stupid enough to try to railroad Rafa into bringing the midget back against his wishes.

Lynott
22-08-2005, 03:14 PM
Did anyone see the "Free Michael" thing done in the Kop end the other day? A bit vomit-inducing I thought and a bit cheeky telling the manager who to go spend his money on. Benitez has already said he needs a centre back and a right winger. What happens if Liverpool sign Owen and another big side hitch up their skirt and wave at him?

Benitez should be left to pick and choose who he spends his cash on. Though who knows if Owen isn't in his plans anyway.

I'd imagine that that is in relation to Michael Shields.

wayne gayle
22-08-2005, 07:51 PM
he wanted to better his trophy cabinet and himself as a player and went to madrid. he's achieved the latter at least. he did more than his fair share for the pool and deserved a chance at a bigger club. i don't like this man u style short memory in so called pool fans

Please explain to me how he bettered himself as a player by sitting on his arse on the bench for the majority of the season while the club he left played against some of the best teams in Europe and beat them, which he would have been part of had he stayed at Anfield.

devilman
22-08-2005, 08:01 PM
Please explain to me how he bettered himself as a player by sitting on his arse on the bench for the majority of the season while the club he left played against some of the best teams in Europe and beat them, which he would have been part of had he stayed at Anfield.

Hindsight etc.

Who's to say they'd have gone as far with Owen in the team? They could well have tried play everything through him by hitting balls over the top all day. We don't know. Personally, I think you'll see fairly rapid improvements in the strike rates of the existing forwards if/when they bring in a quality creative wide man.

Philby
22-08-2005, 08:10 PM
There were some great crosses put into the box in our first two games that weren't capitalised on. You'd got to have fancied crouch to get his head on one or two of them.

What do people make of rafa's kuijt comments?

Merely gently reminding real/owen/sfx that we aren't falling at their feet to take owen back at a ridiculous wage or is there general interest?

Everything seemed in place for him to join earlier in the summer but then we got the beanpole instead, i'm surprised to hear this speculation starting up again.

ho chi feen
23-08-2005, 12:20 AM
I can't help but thinking that guy has too much influence over his club

Well he is their 'best player'.

MonTheHoops
23-08-2005, 08:25 AM
Easy mistake to make, the banner was actually in support of Michael Shields (the liverpool supporter jailed for a vicious assault in Bulgaria which another man has already admitted commiting)

For more info - http://www.freemichaelshiel ds.org/

Would agree wholeheartedly with the "benitez knows best" point of view. If he wants Owen back then fine, if not then that's fine too. He has a vision for the future of the club & I trust him to recruit the players he thinks best fit that vision.

FYI - I don't think Parry/Moores/Gerrard would be stupid enough to try to railroad Rafa into bringing the midget back against his wishes.


I am an idiot Philby. Apologies. Still, I do think that Benitez is being put under serious pressure to sign Owen.

Eoin
23-08-2005, 08:30 AM
I am an idiot Philby. Apologies. Still, I do think that Benitez is being put under serious pressure to sign Owen.

The only people putting pressure on him in my opinion are the english media.

Rafa will only sign him if he wants him, he won't be told what to do.

MonTheHoops
23-08-2005, 10:13 AM
The only people putting pressure on him in my opinion are the english media.

Rafa will only sign him if he wants him, he won't be told what to do.


Do you think that would be different if he were an English manager? They do pick the national team after all. I like Benitez. No shit with him. Whatever happened the talk of Aimar being linked. Wasn't doing too well at Valencia at the time. Cracking player.

ho chi feen
23-08-2005, 10:01 PM
Do you think that would be different if he were an English manager? They do pick the national team after all. I like Benitez. No shit with him. Whatever happened the talk of Aimar being linked. Wasn't doing too well at Valencia at the time. Cracking player.

Ranieri had taken to not playing him, but Ranieri is out of the picture now.

Anyone know who Valencia's manager is this season?

Liverpool are looking fairly shite tonight so far.

Rebelred
24-08-2005, 09:57 AM
Owen will join newcastle on loan if nobody else (ie: liverpool)comes in for him before the deadline

MonTheHoops
24-08-2005, 09:58 AM
He said this morning he wants to go to Liverpool. Will Benitez's hand be forced?

Eoin
24-08-2005, 10:00 AM
Owen will join newcastle on loan if nobody else (ie: liverpool)comes in for him before the deadline

Apparantly he turned down a move to Everton.

he's an idiot if that's true. Newcastle are going down the fucking swanney unless they get rid of Sounness.

I still think Liverpool might go in for him. Didn't see the game last night, but I wasn't too impressed with Cisse or Morientes on saturday.

Sound
24-08-2005, 10:16 AM
I'd like to see him back but I doubt it will happen. Rafa likes to play one striker, always has done. And there is no way he will play with one that is small. Plus, Owen left Rafa in the lurch when he came first so if he comes back it will be on Rafa's terms or not at all.

shammy feen
24-08-2005, 10:43 AM
Plus, Owen left Rafa in the lurch when he came first .....

Sounds like a gang bang.

oooh...errrr...Matro n!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40869000/jpg/_40869193_crouch300. jpg

Lurch in action last season.

Signed.

Finbarr saunders

ho chi feen
24-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Sounds like a gang bang.

oooh...errrr...Matro n!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40869000/jpg/_40869193_crouch300. jpg

Lurch in action last season.

Signed.

Finbarr saunders

Fnarr fnarr.

wayne gayle
24-08-2005, 11:32 PM
if you saw him play last season, then you'd recognise that he's bettered himself as a player. his all round game has improved and his goalscoring has remained lethal. losing out on the european cup has nothing to do with it. did nunez better himself last season because he won it?

To the best of my knowledge most of the goals Owen scored for Real last season (on the rare occasions he was in the team) were against teams in the League, and not even the top teams either.
I'm pretty sure he didn't score any in the Champions League. Real were knocked out in the first knockout stage. The comparison with Nunez is ridiculous.

Sound
25-08-2005, 10:13 AM
To the best of my knowledge most of the goals Owen scored for Real last season (on the rare occasions he was in the team) were against teams in the League, and not even the top teams either.
I'm pretty sure he didn't score any in the Champions League. Real were knocked out in the first knockout stage. The comparison with Nunez is ridiculous.

Well, he scored against Barca, Betis and Valencia in the league but never let facts get in the way of an ill-informed rant...

ho chi feen
27-08-2005, 04:27 PM
he's an idiot if that's true. Newcastle are going down the fucking swanney unless they get rid of Sounness.

That's debatable. The Newcastle job is the premierships own poisoned chalice... a la Inter.

Loftydog
27-08-2005, 04:50 PM
To the best of my knowledge most of the goals Owen scored for Real last season (on the rare occasions he was in the team) were against teams in the League, and not even the top teams either.
I'm pretty sure he didn't score any in the Champions League. Real were knocked out in the first knockout stage. The comparison with Nunez is ridiculous.

He scored 2 or 3 in the group stages including the all decisive goal against kiev at home that all but ensured real would get out of their group considering the stuggles they had with it and real were knocked out because ronaldo failed to hit a donkeys arse with a banjo on several occasions against juventus in the second leg.

Langer Dan
27-08-2005, 06:02 PM
He scored 2 or 3 in the group stages including the all decisive goal against kiev at home that all but ensured real would get out of their group considering the stuggles they had with it and real were knocked out because ronaldo failed to hit a donkeys arse with a banjo on several occasions against juventus in the second leg.

Earra Owen got a serious raw deal at Madrid, In an already forward-heavy side lUxenburgo has opted to bring in ever more Brazilians.

its nuts. Looks like Owen is on his way back to anfield

ho chi feen
27-08-2005, 06:13 PM
Earra Owen got a serious raw deal at Madrid, In an already forward-heavy side lUxenburgo has opted to bring in ever more Brazilians.

its nuts. Looks like Owen is on his way back to anfield
I wonder if we'll be seeing Baptista played in the middle this weekend? They've signed a couple of Uruguayan workhorses too, which nobody seems to mention, and this can only be a good thing for them if you ask me. A few more Indians and one less chief, etc.

Coin
29-08-2005, 10:53 AM
its nuts.
I thought so too until Robinho came on last night. What a swagger for a "bag of bones" as the commentator described him. He sent some guy about 3 feet the wrong way with one body swerve/stepover. Also shrugged off a guy who was swinging out of his jersey, so he's not that light. (Although his initial control leading up to Real's second was superb I don't think he intentionally gave it to Ronaldo).

Madrid's defence from dead balls was hairy out, twas like the first half of Liverpools season last year. Ball bouncing all over the shop every time.

Coin
29-08-2005, 10:56 AM
I wonder if we'll be seeing Baptista played in the middle this weekend?
Played wide left. Raul played in the middle. I use played in the loosest sense of the word. Here it means that he ran around for a while, and popped up with a goal at the end that Ronaldo would have scored anyway. He didn't even contribute the link play anymore.

M&M
29-08-2005, 12:22 PM
Whatever about signing Owen I think Liverpool definitely need to sign a centre back before the deadline. From watching Hyppia in the first few games of the season I think he's going to get caught out a lot more this season... and god help the pool if carragher gets injured... there's no cover there at all.

Actin The Sham
18-01-2008, 05:53 PM
No one should write their "autobiography" until they are at least 65.