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wunhunglo
10-05-2005, 04:28 AM
Kevin McBride............. .......it just doesn't sound right.

Should white people be allowed to box.............seri ously




I've met Mike Tyson, and he seemed to be a very nice fella indeed. Maybe it had something to do with the medication, but fawk it ....................

but anyway

Mike Tyson ( Usa ) 1/14 v Kevin Mc Bride ( Ire ) 13/2
wat_boy
10-05-2005, 05:26 AM
id love to see tyson become the champ again, shame he went to prison (didnt rape her imo) because he could of became the greatest of all time, deffo had the talent.
cit_gym_rat
10-05-2005, 09:20 AM
greatest of all time?? Tyson? are you taking the piss?

Only 2 heavy weights from the last 10 years or so could match the boys of the good old days, Lewis and Hollyfield no others. Boxing is a dying sport its full of bums now. Compare it to the good old days Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Louis the list is endless.

Common lads, next thing youll be saying naz could have been the greatest of all time.
POL
10-05-2005, 09:24 AM
greatest of all time?? Tyson? are you taking the piss?

Only 2 heavy weights from the last 10 years or so could match the boys of the good old days, Lewis and Hollyfield no others. Boxing is a dying sport its full of bums now. Compare it to the good old days Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Louis the list is endless.

Common lads, next thing youll be saying naz could have been the greatest of all time.
Tyson at 21/22 had the potential to be a true legend, thats the thing. He never realised it.
cit_gym_rat
10-05-2005, 09:28 AM
Tyson at 21/22 had the potential to be a true legend, thats the thing. He never realised it.
but he was fighting a bunch of nobodys, all he had was power, his technique was shocking. I know all foreman and liston had was power too but anyone who laster the first two rounds with tyson made him suffer.
POL
10-05-2005, 09:42 AM
too but anyone who laster the first two rounds with tyson made him suffer.

rubbish, James Smith and Tony Tucker went 12 rounds in 87, Pinklion Thomas and Tyrell Biggs 6 and 7.
cit_gym_rat
10-05-2005, 11:05 AM
rubbish, James Smith and Tony Tucker went 12 rounds in 87, Pinklion Thomas and Tyrell Biggs 6 and 7.
a bunch of nobodys
The Eternal Optimist
10-05-2005, 11:52 AM
id love to see tyson become the champ again, shame he went to prison (didnt rape her imo) because he could of became the greatest of all time, deffo had the talent.

Sweet Mother of Jesus!!!!
The Eternal Optimist
10-05-2005, 11:54 AM
but he was fighting a bunch of nobodys, all he had was power, his technique was shocking. I know all foreman and liston had was power too but anyone who laster the first two rounds with tyson made him suffer.

His technique was top notch in his youth. Look at those tapes again.
STEVIEG
10-05-2005, 12:00 PM
I'm no boxing expert but like him or hate him most boxing observers in the know agree that Mike Tyson was potentially up there with the greats for his first few years as the World Champ. Like the Rolling Stones or someone in music the sight of him now may not help his legacy but look at the footage from the late 80's and tell me this guy wasn't unreal. I'll always remember that time he destroyed Sphinx in about a minute.
POL
10-05-2005, 12:06 PM
he was a fcuking machine when he was 21/22, to say he lacked technique is a load of bollocks, the way he could bob and weave and slip punches was a joy to behold
cit_gym_rat
10-05-2005, 01:52 PM
he was a fcuking machine when he was 21/22, to say he lacked technique is a load of bollocks, the way he could bob and weave and slip punches was a joy to behold

His power was a joy to behold. Ill give tyson one thing, his lunging rear hook was the best execution of that punch ever. But i would not rate that 21/22 year old up in the top 10 heavy weights of all time
Coin
10-05-2005, 02:15 PM
id love to see tyson become the champ again, shame he went to prison (didnt rape her imo) because he could of became the greatest of all time, deffo had the talent.
No means yes eh?
Duke
10-05-2005, 02:16 PM
when tyson lost the best years of his career to prison so we can only wonder what he would have become. I think he would have been far more successful than Lewis or Hollyfield but he would have had to kept his discipline and cool too which for him is difficult!
Duke
10-05-2005, 02:19 PM
No means yes eh?

That wasn't the first time she accused somebody of rape and tyson turned down a reduced sentence too cos he wouldn't plead guilty to a crime he said he didn't commit...this is american justice and i do feel that he didn't rape her!
STEVIEG
10-05-2005, 03:52 PM
I disagree-i used be a big fan till this rape. I saw an interview with her and her family at the time and she was a girl who had an awful lot going for her. On the basis of that documentary i was convinced he did indeed rape her and his subsequent actions have caused me to lose even more respect for him. Once his mentor died he lost his way.
wat_boy
10-05-2005, 03:56 PM
Once his mentor died he lost his way.
cusdamato i think his name was, he lost to buster douglas not long after he died im sure.
STEVIEG
10-05-2005, 03:59 PM
Yeah he screwed up that fight big time i remember watching it live late in the night saw it again recently it was such a shock at the time but Tyson was unprepared and overweight.
wunhunglo
11-05-2005, 01:14 AM
Only 2 heavy weights from the last 10 years or so could match the boys of the good old days, Lewis and Hollyfield no others.

Holyfield was not a heavyweight. He was a cruiserweight for fawk sake. By far the best heavyweight or at least the one with the most potential over the last fifteen years was without a doubt Riddick Bowe. Seemingly for Riddick it was more important to go a bit crazy and 'kidnap' his wife and child and spend some years in the pen. Sadly he is back fighting again even though it is quite obvious with his speech that he suffered some damage in past bouts.
What's missing from most of these fighters is a manager, not for in the ring but outside of it.

Now getting back to the real issue. How about this fella Kevin McBride ??
wat_boy
11-05-2005, 03:21 AM
tbh ive heard his name and thats about it, off topic here like but is anyone looking forward to the hatton fight the first week of june, i know i am, i reckon hatton will stop him (kostya tszyu) around 8 or 9
wunhunglo
11-05-2005, 04:08 AM
tbh ive heard his name and thats about it, off topic here like but is anyone looking forward to the hatton fight the first week of june, i know i am, i reckon hatton will stop him (kostya tszyu) around 8 or 9

Take a look

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showthread.php?t=315 90
wunhunglo
11-05-2005, 04:15 AM
Common lads, next thing youll be saying naz could have been the greatest of all time.
He was in his own little mind until he met Mr.Barrera

http://www.profibox.hu/images/vok/Hamed_Barrera/kesz/12n.jpg
cit_gym_rat
11-05-2005, 02:20 PM
Holyfield was not a heavyweight. He was a cruiserweight for fawk sake. By far the best heavyweight or at least the one with the most potential over the last fifteen years was without a doubt Riddick Bowe. Seemingly for Riddick it was more important to go a bit crazy and 'kidnap' his wife and child and spend some years in the pen. Sadly he is back fighting again even though it is quite obvious with his speech that he suffered some damage in past bouts.
What's missing from most of these fighters is a manager, not for in the ring but outside of it.

Now getting back to the real issue. How about this fella Kevin McBride ??
holyfield fought heavyweight too

- another debate im not getting into is the ammount of fucking weight devisions now

but as for McBride, dont give him much hope, tyson needs a nobody to knockout again and id say this is what McBride is.
cit_gym_rat
11-05-2005, 02:22 PM
He was in his own little mind until he met Mr.Barrera

http://www.profibox.hu/images/vok/Hamed_Barrera/kesz/12n.jpg
what a sweet night that was
The Eternal Optimist
11-05-2005, 06:37 PM
I remember McBride in the Barna Olympics and he was shocking.He got stopped.I've seen him a few times on TV and he is just a big lump and has been stopped by nobodies before.He has no chance.He is in the P. McNeeley mould.Its strange but cause he has been to the Olympics you'd think he could box a bit but back in those days Irish heavyweights were not up to much.They have come on a little now.

And I reckon Hatton could beat Tszyu but his price means he's not worth a punt.Maybe best bet is to pick a round.Tszyu has been battered before,can be hit and stopped.If Hatton wins though his stock won't rise, they'll just say Tsyzu was washed up.

On the Heavyweights, when did Holyfield or Lewis beat a good heavyweight who was in their prime? Holyfiled beat Bowe but Bowe was fat that night and still could have got the decision.Lewis might be a top ten all-timer but I don't know.Well in my opinion he's not and neither is Holyfield.
The Eternal Optimist
11-05-2005, 06:40 PM
Naz was a decent fighter but he believed his own hype.I think he moved up the weights too fast.And he did beat more than Kelley.Medina and Johnston were decent fighters and he beat them.At least Hamed was willing to cross the water and fight big names.Thats more than a lot of Brits are willing to do these days.
cit_gym_rat
12-05-2005, 09:13 AM
On the Heavyweights, when did Holyfield or Lewis beat a good heavyweight who was in their prime? Holyfiled beat Bowe but Bowe was fat that night and still could have got the decision.Lewis might be a top ten all-timer but I don't know.Well in my opinion he's not and neither is Holyfield.

All im saying is these two were the best of a bad lot of heavy weight, i dont think either would be in the top 10 of all time, but they are definitly the best of the last decade or so.

On another note - russians to dominate in the coming years
wunhunglo
12-01-2006, 02:46 AM
I'm no boxing expert. I'll always remember that time he destroyed Sphinx in about a minute.

Yeah he gave his face an awful beating.

http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/egyptclass/EGizaSphinxFace.JPG