Thierry for sale

[Langer Dan]

3 previous owners,
low mileage.
not good for big journeys,
will swap for a ford focus. Va VA VOOM!

[Philby]

Best Forward on the Planet.

[Langer Dan]

Best Forward on the Planet.

as long as he's playing ditch digging opposition.

[Philby]

It's a last resort of those who don't rate Henry to say that he doesn't do it in big matches. The lad is gifted and is the proto-type footballer of the future, there's so little to criticise about his game that people fall back on weak arguments that he only scores against poor opposition. Every striker (maybe Fowler is an exception) scores more against poor teams. It's only natural, esp. for Henry who has the pace & ability to make absolute monkees of everyone but the best.

[shammy feen]

sure his goal scoring record against chelsea and man utd is rubbish. The two biggest rivals in england. Let alone a hat-trick against roma in rome and two against inter in milan.


rubbish player

I disagree Naff. Hes very good.

[Loftydog]

era hes alright...he would do the job i suppose

[Rebelred]

sure his goal scoring record against chelsea and man utd is rubbish. The two biggest rivals in england. Let alone a hat-trick against roma in rome and two against inter in milan.


rubbish player
pure shit,wouldnt get his game for cobh ramblers

[Coin]

the proto-type footballer of the future
Too skinny to say that. If he really wanted to be the best in the world he would have added a little bulk, which he could easily have done without sacrificing his speed or explosiveness. He's never going to be as strong as Ruud or Ronaldo, but he gets pushed around too easily.

[Philby]

In that case Cisse is the proto-type footballer of the future (cue lambasting relating to broken limbs)

Henry is actually quite well built when you see him in person. Strength isn't a major part of his game but he's no pushover (see how he holds off defenders at his back [ala his backheel V Charlton] for proof of that)

[Coin]

Henry is actually quite well built when you see him in person. Strength isn't a major part of his game but he's no pushover (see how he holds off defenders at his back [ala his backheel V Charlton] for proof of that)
Maybe, I can only judge by shots of him standing next to other players. You can't deny though that he could add strength without sacrificing anything of his game.

For the Charlton back heel he was in the box, and no defender is going to attempt a challenge from that position with such a quick forward, so strength was irrelevant. In most of the situations where he has a defender on his back the defender is afraid to get tight because of Henry's ability to spin off so quickly. A stronger Henry could still spin just as quickly.

Maybe I'm a little to down on him, but it pisses me off that someone clearly has the natural talent and physical potential to be the best by a mile, but just hasn't gone that extra step to make it happen. "Its not his game" is not a good enough excuse for someone who is put forward as the best.

[Langer Dan]

pure shit,wouldnt get his game for cobh ramblers

era I always thought he was useless.
he'd struggle at Rockmount

[Fat Tom]

Best Forward on the Planet.

I'd rate Ronaldinho higher.

[The Eternal Optimist]

Proto-type footballer of the future!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its not Cisse I am laughing at this time but , like proto-types!!!! footballers !!!!

I'm building one right now.

[Langer Dan]

not much cop if you don't win it.

[Langer Dan]

god boy your so sad
whaddya on about,
ya Henry is great coz he was nominated for european player of the year, so what. Ruud's been nominated as well. Did he win it, did he fuck! but you don't hear United fans rattling on about it. Don't worry biy ye'll get yere season ended for ye now on tuesday night.

[Coin]

why doesnt ruud get out and set people up? why dont he cross the ball?
why dont he track back and defend....

because its not his game.

Did I say Ruud was better than Henry? No. Did I say he was the best forward around? No. If I could pick one or the other to be Irish, who would I pick? Henry. So stop getting your back up just because you automatically assume anyone who knocks Henry even the slightest bit is creaming themselves over van Nistelrooy.

Henry does all that and still scores more goals than ruud week in week out. But i laugh at that extra mile bit.....last time i checked he was in running for world player of the year two years running........not a bad oull acolade...
"In the running". Thats my whole point. Its the difference between being "in the running" and actually winning it.

[Coin]

im not saying that but you said you dont buy into this its not his game thing.....and my point is no one would argue that ruud should be out crossing balls and make runs and being a play maker because its not his game. I was drawing a comparison to a player whos completly different yet as effective.

Buy here you are knocking a guy whos widely regarded as the best at what he does.
My point is that Henry is the best at what he does, but his game is not the game of a complete forward. Am I nit-picking? Absolutely, because if you're at the level of discussing who is the best in the world, then you've already established that you're dealing with supremely talented and effective players, but you have to look for perfection to be the absolute best.

[Fat Tom]

Class player.
Class act.
But if I was asked for Ronnie or Henry I'd take Ronnie to partner Ruud.

[Coin]

but their is none.....ruud doesnt do what henry does but scores goals like no other, shev is a slight mix of the two but not as good as henry in his team play....neither of them have the skills of adriano or ronaldo when it comes to strength on the ball.........

If you want the most complete foward then it has to be henry. His scoring record is as good as any striker in the world and hes achieves this by not staying in the box. Name one complete foward? Name a better one than henry.
as i said heres a guy whos ammassed some amount of goals, is at the hub of every play his team makes, has a world cup medal, a european championship medal, has one numerous player awards, players player awards and your having a go......
It should be Ronaldo, but don't even get me started on that fat *^*^*^*^. What a waste.
Anyway, Shevchenko would be the only one I'd put above Henry. Personal opinion. Not as good as Henry in team play, but on balance I think still a better all round forward. Although I've seen a lot more of Henry, which can sometimes count against a player in these decisions, because it means you have time to pick up every flaw.

"Having a go" is a bit strong. You'll notice that I haven't trotted out any of the crap about him not being a man for the big occasion and all that shite. I just think that if Henry really wanted it, he could be the best by a ways. He's 27 now, so he has maybe 3 years at his absolute peak, we could see him get better yet.

[The Eternal Optimist]

A few threads here recently give credence to that old saying that goes something like football is complicated by fools.Though the fools keep the sport going so who can complain.

This is one of those threads.What a pointless discussion.

[Philby]

It's a last resort of those who don't rate Henry to say that he doesn't do it in big matches. The lad is gifted and is the proto-type footballer of the future, there's so little to criticise about his game that people fall back on weak arguments that he only scores against poor opposition. Every striker (maybe Fowler is an exception) scores more against poor teams. It's only natural, esp. for Henry who has the pace & ability to make absolute monkees of everyone but the best.

Henry comes up with a great goal in a massive game in Europe for Arsenal. No comment is made. The next time Henry fails to score in a big european game the same dross about him being a small-time player will be trotted out.

[MonTheHoops]

yip....cause when theyd play cork city he'd go missing

Agreed.

[xvis]

so henry got one goal against a poor bayern side over 2 legs, not enough.
he has done nothing to be acclaimed the best footballer on the planet,
he was only a squad player picking up world and euro medals for france in 98 and 2000 ...not a main member of the team. and when he was a main team player in 2002 he scores no goals and gets sent off. in 2004 again rubbish.

to be the worlds top player you must do it at the major tournaments for your country and in the champs league for your club. henry has not done this.
goals against roma and inter in groups games do not count, both were poor teams ..and i'm a roma supporter.
there are at least half a dozen forwards better than henry ..sheva, ronaldo, vieri, ronaldinho ...and even RvN.

Ruud scored in every group game last summer, done it in champs league, even scoring against real madrid in home and away legs in champs league quarters a couple of years ago, crap defence and barthez last game letting him down.

and ronaldo for brazil has done it in the world cup and for his club in champs league. henry has played with good players for france and not done the business. if henry won the planets best player it would have been a joke.

the only thing he's world class at is marketing, only beaten by beckham by 6 ads to 5 at last years euro finals

[Loftydog]

And you wouldnt give your left testicle to have him play for you? Who are you trying to kid...

[AmadeusDC]

If i could pick anyone i'd take Ronaldo. Good team, bad team, good opposition, bad opposition he scores goals. Top all time scorer in the World Cup with 1 maybe 2 more competitions left in him. Was considered a flop in France 98 and was incredible until he played the final sick. In 2002 scored more goals than any player had picked up in a WC since 1974!!! Scored ridiculous amounts in Holland, went to Spain and was scary good for Barca. Went to Inter was crocked and still had a fantastic goals to games ratio. Now a Madrid scores a bucket load of goals. Sure he looks overwight and sometimes seems lazy but he is a truly awesome player.Even last night when he hit the post after burning the Juve defence into the ground with his pace. Awesome. Remember this is the guy who got a standing ovation from the Man U supporters at OT when he knocked THEIR team out.

That said Henry is unbelievable and right up there at the top of the game. Anyway who says otherwise is a fool. And to the chap who remarked he was only a squad player in 98 and 2000, come off it like, started the group games in 98, had a good few goals FROM THE WING!! and then got injured. 2000 he was most certainly the No.1 French striker so go away with your squad player shit.

As far a RVN he is as good a finisher as any that has been around in years. Awesome in front of goal but i'm not so sure that he could do as well in a weaker team. He's Top 10, don't get me wrong but more Crespo to Henry's Shevchenko. Bit like a Makaay but with one more gear.

-AmadeusDC-

[xvis]

That said Henry is unbelievable and right up there at the top of the game. Anyway who says otherwise is a fool. And to the chap who remarked he was only a squad player in 98 and 2000, come off it like, started the group games in 98, had a good few goals FROM THE WING!! and then got injured. 2000 he was most certainly the No.1 French striker so go away with your squad player shit.

As far a RVN he is as good a finisher as any that has been around in years. Awesome in front of goal but i'm not so sure that he could do as well in a weaker team. He's Top 10, don't get me wrong but more Crespo to Henry's Shevchenko. Bit like a Makaay but with one more gear.

-AmadeusDC-

played a few group games in 98, scored goals against saudi arabia or south africa or whoever ...then not in the team for later games, okay granted had a good euro 2000 but not the star of the show, euro 2000 was all about zizou.

i'm not saying he isn't good, he is good, i'm saying he's not the best player on the planet, not even close.
re RvN he had a great champs league record for PSV also.
i wouldn't class RvN as the best player on the planet. and neither would i henry.

[ho chi feen]

In that case Cisse is the proto-type footballer of the future (cue lambasting relating to broken limbs)

Henry is actually quite well built when you see him in person. Strength isn't a major part of his game but he's no pushover (see how he holds off defenders at his back [ala his backheel V Charlton] for proof of that)

Something you want to tell us, Philby?

[AmadeusDC]

Something you want to tell us, Philby?

ho chit, you dug up a year old thread to say that?

-AmadeusDC-

[ho chi feen]

ho chit, you dug up a year old thread to say that?

-AmadeusDC-

Followed a link from the other thread. Oh, and get the name right, FFS. Ho Chit sounds like a Bangkok Skytrain station.

[Philby]

ho chit, you dug up a year old thread to say that?

-AmadeusDC-

I think he's stalking me.....

[ho chi feen]

I think he's stalking me.....

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