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Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 10:19 AM

Well the knock out stages are imminent, who tickles your fancy?? I personally had a sneaky feeling about Juventus all along, not too many weaknesses in their side with an awesome defensive record at the fore of their strenghts but they now face a somewhat rejuvinated Madrid, 100% record under Luxemburgo as far as I know. It sets the scene for an intriguing tie.

A case could be put forward for a lot of teams at the moment. What about the sleeping giants Inter Milan, the only unbeaten side in a major European League, would they be worth an outside bet? Past form would suggest no but they seem to have stamped out a lot of their inconsistency of late and with the likes of Adriano, Vieri, Martins and Recoba bolstering their attack they have sufficient firepower to trouble any team.

I`ll stick with Juve, but it wouldnt surprise me if Madrid turned them over now that they have most of their squad back to full fitness. So who do ye fancy and why??

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 10:26 AM

......If arsenal dont win it then I fancy liverpool.......

Were you out last night?

sm-art ass

15-02-2005, 10:31 AM

If arsenal dont win it then I fancy liverpool......shock ing i know but i still think liverpool when all players fit have one of the best squads in europe, let alone england.

as a liverpool fan, I'd just like to point out that the above passage is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read

sm-art ass

15-02-2005, 10:47 AM

eire_sai

15-02-2005, 10:52 AM

Barcelona have really regained their form in both the domestic and european stage this season, ive watched all their games cause they were in Celtics group and they have an excellent chance, in Ronaldinhio they have a real match winner, that Cameroon striker Ngoto is class as well, also solid at the back unlike Real, from Italy AC milan or Juve, premiership team will not win it( unless Robbin returns soon )

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 10:53 AM

well theres an opinion......
liverpool have the bones of a world class team. All they are short is probably a stable keeper and another quality centre back. They have the strike force, they have the best midfield barr chelsea and currently they have a good defence. All they are short is a bit of consistancy. But lets face it.....10 games in this season and rolo said man utds current squad were the worst he had seen, you werent feeling too confident either.....drawing to exeter, losing easy games, playing brutal.

Now look at them, 15 games unbeaten, in the hunt for the league.....

I wish people watched football as opposed to watching a tv with a match on....alonso, garcia, gerrard, baros, risse, carrigher. U mean to tell me man united wouldnt sign any of them 6? Let alone gelling under one of the best managers in the world....

But no let all ye man utd fans shout yere mouths off on here.....just like ye did when ye said arsenal were fucked and because their only signing was lehmann they hadnt a chance at the league.....keep bumping this thread and we'll see how they done.

This has nothing to do with Man United, absolutely nothing so i`m not even going to go there. But Liverpool with all due respect havent got a sniff of a chance of winning the Champions League, in fact I dont think they`ll beat Leverkuesen for that matter.

How have they got the second best midfeild in the premiership??? Gerrard and Alonso are world class, but the midfield is a quartet, I cant remember the last time Liverpool had a finely balanced midfield. The last time I checked Alonso was injured so that leaves Gerrard to do it all on his own, which he will try to do to be fair. I suspect that even the Liverpool fans will admit that their chances are very limited at the moment, maybe if Alonso was available, Kewell played to his potential and they had a decent right winger they`d have a chance, but not at the moment.

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 10:57 AM

....alonso, garcia, gerrard, baros, risse, carrigher. U mean to tell me man united wouldnt sign any of them 6? Let alone gelling under one of the best managers in the world....

btw, Alonso and Gerrard definitley. None of the rest.

Benitez is stil unproven, he inherited most of Hector Cupers squad at Valencia. I`m not saying he is not a good manager but to say he`s one of the best managers in the world is generous given the circumstances.

Steven

15-02-2005, 11:16 AM

Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Barca, Real Madrid, Ac Milan, Inter, Juve.

Impossible to pick one from them IMO, and ze Germans.

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 11:30 AM

money speaks all kinds of opinions...
i bet ya liverpool go further in the champions league than united...
50 euro.

Well you should know by now that i`m not afraid to put my money where my mouth is. €50, no problem. I dont fancy Liverpool to progress to the next stage. United could go either way so i`ll take my chances.

Langer Dan

15-02-2005, 11:47 AM

yes liverpool or Arsenal to win the Champions league, and West Brom to mount a late charge and win the premiership!!!

*as a squadron of flying pigs soars majestically by*

POL

15-02-2005, 11:50 AM

yes liverpool or Arsenal to win the Champions league,

its not beyond the bound sof possiblity, remember Man Utd in 1999? the luckiest Eurpoean Champions in the entire history of the competition

Langer Dan

15-02-2005, 11:55 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

shammy feen

15-02-2005, 11:57 AM

Chelsea...who else?

;-)

POL

15-02-2005, 11:59 AM

Man Utd wining poll on the proc shocker,zzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Rebelred

15-02-2005, 12:48 PM

right,back in september i went for united,thinking that we weren't going to win the league and come feb we'd prob be tailing chelsea.so i slapped 50 yoyos on us to win the champions league.I'll stick by that.
I'm discounting Milan,because I think United will beat them.
Juventus however, are looming ominously in the background.Undefeate d in the group stages,top of Serie A,tighter than a virgin in defence and with Ibrahimovic pulling the strings up front, the Old lady seems to be slipping by without getting noticed too much.They are the best Italian side left in it(milan are by no means the complete article in defence anymore).
Madrid seem to be hitting form aswell,but could well come up short against Italian or German opposition.Chelsea and Barca will be interesting,can see chelsea coming through there.
but keep an eye out for Juve,sneaky cunts

Rebelred

15-02-2005, 12:52 PM

I wish people watched football as opposed to watching a tv with a match on....alonso, garcia, gerrard, baros, risse, carrigher. U mean to tell me man united wouldnt sign any of them 6? Let alone gelling under one of the best managers in the world....

alonso yes, gerrard yes, ,garcia no, riise no, carragher no,baros,no

Fat Tom

15-02-2005, 12:58 PM

well theres an opinion......
liverpool have the bones of a world class team. All they are short is probably a stable keeper and another quality centre back. They have the strike force, they have the best midfield barr chelsea and currently they have a good defence. All they are short is a bit of consistancy. But lets face it.....10 games in this season and rolo said man utds current squad were the worst he had seen, you werent feeling too confident either.....drawing to exeter, losing easy games, playing brutal.

Now look at them, 15 games unbeaten, in the hunt for the league.....

I wish people watched football as opposed to watching a tv with a match on....alonso, garcia, gerrard, baros, risse, carrigher. U mean to tell me man united wouldnt sign any of them 6? Let alone gelling under one of the best managers in the world....

But no let all ye man utd fans shout yere mouths off on here.....just like ye did when ye said arsenal were fucked and because their only signing was lehmann they hadnt a chance at the league.....keep bumping this thread and we'll see how they done.

Ah Naff you truly have gone mad.
Is someone posting under your name?
10 games into the season United were still missing half their team.
2 of their best players this season in Heinze and Rio and Ronaldo as well.
They had half a squad too - I always felt this United squad were strong and in current form look very good for the Champions League.
I wouldn't write any team off after last year.
Liverpool - can't see it.
Arsenal - too poor defensively and Henry not hacking it against the big teams could be a problem as is Vieira's loss of form.
Then again I wouldn't write anyone off.
Best midfiled bar Chelsea - are you fucking mad?
How - name their two wingers and how you think they equate to Giggs,Ronaldo- Pires, Reyes,Ljunberg and you are an Arsenal fan.
They are accomplished in the middle when Alonso is fit but other than that no!
alonso = yes,
garcia = flashes of brilliance, consistenly pure - fucking useless,
gerrard = yes,
baros = possibly, plays with head down too much, I'd much rather Morientes
risse = as a sub for Giggs possibly,
carrigher = as a sub possibly

sad thing is these are all guaranteed starters for the pool wheread they'd only be squad players at old trafford (bar gerrard and Alonso)

Fat Tom

15-02-2005, 01:01 PM

its not beyond the bound sof possiblity, remember Man Utd in 1999? the luckiest Eurpoean Champions in the entire history of the competition

How?
coming out of the group of death
beating Inter with Ronaldo, Juve with Davids and Zidane
and the final without Keane and Scholes
very lucky all right!
not deserved after the season at all
take off the ABU blinkers biy

Mr. R.M. Keane

15-02-2005, 01:06 PM

arsenal.....because for once they have fuck all to play for. They dont have to worry how theyll get on, on the saturday. They dont have to worry about niggles......If arsenal dont win it then I fancy liverpool......shock ing i know but i still think liverpool when all players fit have one of the best squads in europe, let alone england. Plus they also have nothing to play for.....Most other teams in the champs are still in the hunt for their respective titles.
If neither them two then juve. unreal defensivley.

The thing is Naff Liverpool wont have all they're players fit. Cisse is out for the season as is Alonso & Pongolle. I dont know whether Morientos is cup-tied. Gerrard will miss the 1st leg next week.

Even with they're 1st 11 they are inconsistant. I reckon Liverpool fans would be happy to get to the quarters and anything after that is a bonus.

On a personal level I fancy Bayern. Not trying to wind any Arsenal fans up but a team that has Makaay & Ballack will always score goals & Arsenal are'nt keeping too many clean sheets against piss poor teams in the Premiership never mind the leaders of the Bundesliga. Plus the Germans are always tough opposition.

As for United v Milan I think its the hardest of all the ties to call. Both have excellent midfields, attacks & solid defenders backed up with dodgy goal-keeping. Should make for two good games.

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 01:06 PM

ill then go double or quits if i win on liverpool progressing the furthest of the english teams unless another english team wins it or knocks liverpool out.

You must have received a bonus or something lately ;)

I said it when the draw was made, there`s a good chance all four English teams could get knocked out, I dont think it will happen but it wouldnt be a huge surprise if they did.

sm-art ass

15-02-2005, 01:07 PM

you call me a wum and the only diff is you want a left winger and a left back.
i think garcia and kewell at the leftwing can more than handle it and comn risse is one of the best left backs in england....scoring, defending, pace..

kewell hasn't cut it for a while and garcia is way too eratic. riise is a much better option on the left wing for liverpool. i reckon its probably his best position anyway

Fat Tom

15-02-2005, 01:08 PM

I think it breaks down well in a way -
I fancy Italian teams against the likes of Madrid coz they know how to defend and break teams down.
Therefore despite Madrids recent step up in form I fancy Juventus.
I always fancy us against Italian teams but worry when we meet the likes of Madrid - whilst we have improeved defensively recently we don't have a good track record against Real. And I don't fancy the prospect of meeting Ronaldinho.
Bayern should beat Arsenal if they are without Campbell - it will depend on Henry Vs Lucio and Ballack and Vieira.
Bayern are good defensively, Arsenal can be world class on the day and if they are its hard to see them lose- I fancy Bayern though.
Leverkusen Vs Liverpool could go either way but I fancy the Germans given the Pools recent abysmal form.
United should beat Milan, our fast players in Rooney giggs and Ronaldo will have to beat and ageing back four.
Rio will have to be on top form too.
Chelsea Barca is hard to call.
I fancy Chelsea but without Robben they could struggle.
And aren't playing well in the last couple of games and struggling to score.
I'll go for Barca but I really don't know.

Stuck in Dumpland

15-02-2005, 01:17 PM

Obviously every team would like to have a player of Gerrard and Alonso's quality in their team. Of the others i think Carragher would be worth his place in all the teams mentioned on the poll bar Chelsea and Milan. He's proved this year how accomplished he is and for me is a far better and safer bet than Silvestre or Toure when it comes to defending. He's more of a John Terry than a Rio but you need both. Milan have an unbelievable defensive array of talent witnessed by allowing Collocini to go on loan to Deportivo until the end of the season, while Chelsea have Terry, Carvalho and Gallas all v.comfortable at centre back.

Baros would be a worty addittion to any team also, as you don't become top scorer at an international tournament by fluke. He possesses all the attributes needed and if only he'd look up once in a while he'd be far better. I think there'll be a drastic improvement from him between now and the end of the season in the league due to the involvement of Morientes.

Garcia - does have his flashes of brilliance but his form last year was excellent with Barca and he's now settling in a new country after an injury and the birth of his kid. While he's not up to Duff,Robben, Pires, Ljungberg, Giggs and Ronaldo now, at the start of the season Giggs was absolute pants and when you look at the reserves on these teams he's definitely a step above Joe Cole, Fortune, Miller et al when played on the wing.

As for Riise i have never really rated him and feel that he is a one trick pony who's more dependant on his left than Beckham is on his right!

I actually feel Liverpool could do well in the Champions League as they are tough to beat, witness the recent Chelsea game and victory over Arsenal, however without Alonso they will struggle.

Fat Tom

15-02-2005, 01:22 PM

Zagorakis - player of the tournament I rest my case.
Sure all the top clubs want him too
Yes also witness Southmapton and birmingham

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 01:23 PM

Arsenal V Bayern - Everybody knows what Arsenal are capable of and I think on paper they have more dangerous players than Bayern have. Both teams are guilty of the same crime in recent years, not playing to their potential when it matters in the Champions League. I think Arsenal have more to prove and will come through.

Man U V Milan - Uniteds form is encouraging but I honestly think you can put that to one side when it comes to this stage of the Champions League. They are up against the stongest panel of players in European football IMO and although they have an ageing back four, that has to be exposed in the right manner. Milan arent going to let United stretch them at ease so I think the key to this tie is the tactical plot of Ferguson. I cant call this one to be honest.

Chelsea V Barcelona - I`ve been saying it all year, I dont think that Chelsea are all they`re cracked up to be and I can only see a Barca progression here. Chelsea have an awesome back four but this is the ultimate test, the movement of the Barcelona team is off the scale and thats evident in the variety of players popping up on the score sheet for them. Robbens loss will be too much for Chelsea to cope with IMO.

Liverpool V Leverkuesen - There`s no doubt that with a full squad available to them Liverpool would have the edge on the Germans but quite simply they dont and i`d be surprised if they progressed.

Steven

15-02-2005, 01:54 PM

its not beyond the bound sof possiblity, remember Man Utd in 1999? the luckiest Eurpoean Champions in the entire history of the competition

That's some load a bollocks. Porto Didn't deserve to get past Man U last year.

Woody

15-02-2005, 01:59 PM

Liverpool have as good a chance as the other 15 in winning the champions league.

Now, I personally don't think we will but I didn't give Greece a snowballin hells chance 8 months ago and look what happened

Funny old game!

Fat Tom

15-02-2005, 02:53 PM

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 04:37 PM

I cant believe the morons who dont rate baros. Baros is better at scoring and linking up than rooney, saha and smith. He wouldnt be a squad player at united. He's got too much class. But then again the people talking about baros and other liverpool players are the exact same people who i had arguments about man utd making a great signing in smith and a few weeks later they were ranting and raving about how good he was.

Then you have john arnje.......barr heinze and cole the best left back in england. Personally I think if cole was foreign then heinze and risse would be ranted and raved about more than him. heinze and risse are far better defensivley than cole and as good going foward.

and as for all the people saying that liverpool wont win it.....they are the same people who said greece wouldnt win a european championship or we'd have had a monaco porto final last year.

as i said.....next week when liverpool have been knocked out ye can bump this and call me a langer. Barr sarcastic 14nil threads i create about arsenal beating man utd theirs not much bumping comes back to haunt me....

but please watch football.....not matches on telly

I disagree with all of the above. Who said that they dont rate Baros?? He had an excellent European Championship and if you were to play a 4-5-1 formation in the premiership few players would handle the job better than Baros, if any at all. But because he`s used to playing like that he`s become too greedy which at times has cost Liverpool scoring chances when he plays up top with somebody else.

Alan Smith - I seem to recall you saying he would be Uniteds number one striker. We`re still waiting. He will never be Uniteds No.1 striker. Ya, you can say he`s been injured but so have all the other three at one stage or another and fact of the matter is when all four are fit he wouldnt be in Uniteds starting line up.

Riise - Maybe its just me but i`d also rate Wayne Bridge higher.

Who were those people who said Greece wouldnt win the European championship last year, and that Porto wouldnt win the champions league??? Most people with an interest in football I suspect. If somebody called either of them at the start of the tournament then i`d like to meet them.

As for nothing coming back to haunt you..... how many goals has Reyes got this year, more than Henry?? ;)

Woody

15-02-2005, 06:24 PM

they don't have as good a chance
but they have a chance
doesn't look likely though

In a knock out competiton anything is likely Tom!

Woody

15-02-2005, 07:23 PM

Let's face it - Chelsea are gonna win the treble!

STEVIEG

15-02-2005, 07:39 PM

well we wait and see. People on here really by in to sky pundits opinions and match ratings on the paper. I mean one guy even said recently torres wasnt great, never played well for spain.

Shocking generalisations again Naff. I said Torres wasn't as good as Ruud and he HASN't played well for Spain. If you were on here longer you would see how highly i rate Baros. As for your match ratings thing, did you know that a major newspaper in England, compiling their match ratings at half time in the recent United Arsenal game, gave Almunia a seven and Ronaldo a three out of then. This was published too!
As for the Liverpool have great potential stuff, of course they have and yes they may win the Champions league. The criticism of them comes form the fact that they've lost about 10 games in the premiership this year and have been pretty unimpressive in many cup games too. They've an easy Champions league draw compared to some but poor teams have progressed before so your right anything can happen. Your generalisations about "people on here" though are a bit lazy to be honest. One more thing. I've always consistently said Arsenal aren't up to Europe but this is as good a chance as they've ever had. I wouldn't write anyone off at this stage. And yes, i'm gonna pick United again cause in my heart they are the best team in it. Of course my heart doesn't win football tournaments......... .

Up For The Ba

15-02-2005, 08:01 PM

as for alan smith......
did he not secure first place in the team till he got injured? correct me if im wrong...

Well it was either that or Bellion FFS!! No Ruud, No Saha, not much competition in fairness Naff.

Langer Dan

16-02-2005, 09:35 AM

Baros is better at scoring and linking up than rooney, saha and smith. He wouldnt be a squad player at united. He's got too much class. Garcia was called utter useless? hahahaha. Hes been playing far better in his first year at anfield than robert pires, thierry henry and ljunberg did in their first season at arsenal.

hands up who thinks Naff was a pool supporter before he jumped ship to the arse'

Up For The Ba

22-02-2005, 02:57 PM

I must say as a betting man i`ll be keeping my hand in my pocket for tonights games, they are all too close to call, i`ve a feeling a few draws could be on the agenda.

Up For The Ba

22-02-2005, 03:02 PM

well bayern half and draw is 14/1
an arsenal half and draw full is 14/1

great bets

I like those odds I must say.

HeeAirO

22-02-2005, 03:08 PM

werder bremen for the trophy

Up For The Ba

22-02-2005, 03:15 PM

ill go evens on an arse win.
draw quits.

20?

Ok. I`d like to see Arsenal do well. I think over the two legs they`ll go through but i`ve a feeling tonight could be a draw. Munich are very strong at home, not an easy place to go by any means.

General Michael Collins

09-03-2005, 01:29 PM

Notice from the poll results that Utd wer the clear winners of the vote as to who was looking best to win the Champions League.However yet again they were exposed at the highest level.Notice there is no mention of LFC on the voting list-which is rather strange consideing they have a very good chance of making the quarter finals.

Up For The Ba

09-03-2005, 02:04 PM

*bump*

Bump indeed. You owe me €20 as it stands, Liverpool arent through yet.

By the way General Collins, I started the thread, didnt put Liverpool up cos I dont think they are realistic canditates to win it, still dont. I also was the only Utd fan as far as I can see that didnt pick Utd as outright winners so you`re point is nul in void it would seem.

Up For The Ba

10-03-2005, 10:27 AM

well seeing that we have 30 euro!! wana make it 60 for me?

Double or quits so, fuck it why not.

Sound

15-04-2005, 01:37 PM

There have been some amount of 'pundits' wrong in the case of Liverpool so the lads are in good company. Absolutely no doubt every pundit will tip Chelsea to beat them. Seems to suit Rafa down to the ground..

Sound

15-04-2005, 01:55 PM

like pundits are all mighty seeing......all mighty knowing. If pundits wre better than the average pundit then they'd clean bookies out. They dont.

Too true! Dunphy used to boast that you would have enough money for a holiday at the end of the season if you took his tips. You wouldn't get to Youghal on the winnings so far.

Lamps

04-05-2005, 09:35 AM

i bow down before you naff, i always thought you hadn't got a clue but in fairness you tipped them from a long way back

Fat Tom

04-05-2005, 09:07 PM

this thread sums a lot of people up on here....cant see the bees from the trees.

alonso, gerrard, garcia, baros, carrigher, and risse......

how many would ye pick now for utd?

has carrigher done enough....

in other words......

BUMP
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and as for ho-chi........liverpool have been the best club in europe this year, lyon were the second best.

Why do you always bring it back to United - you are seriously deluded boy.
Never said we wouldn't want Alonso or Gerrard in the first place.
Riise would be good competition for Giggs and he is versatile.
Garcia was excellent last night - still don't think he is consistent enough.
Baros - no,he is terrible.
Carragher - don't think he'd be worth anything for any other club as he wouldn't play with that heart and commitment for anyone other than the club he loves.

so thats 2 - possibly 3 of the above list.

Mr. R.M. Keane

05-05-2005, 11:31 AM

read the list...its all utd fans who answered.
ur mad if you think brown or silvestre are better than carrigher.even more so with your baros comments.

Silvestre isn't as good as Carragher. Brown is. I'd rather have Brown any day. As for baros he's be United's 4th choice striker. IMO his not even the best at Liverpool.

POL

05-05-2005, 11:35 AM

yes liverpool or Arsenal to win the Champions league, and West Brom to mount a late charge and win the premiership!!!

*as a squadron of flying pigs soars majestically by*

snigger

POL

05-05-2005, 11:36 AM

Well you should know by now that i`m not afraid to put my money where my mouth is. €50, no problem. I dont fancy Liverpool to progress to the next stage. United could go either way so i`ll take my chances.

did ya pay up?

Sound

05-05-2005, 12:00 PM

Silvestre isn't as good as Carragher. Brown is. I'd rather have Brown any day. As for baros he's be United's 4th choice striker. IMO his not even the best at Liverpool.

When has Brown ever, ever lived up to his potential?

Mr. R.M. Keane

05-05-2005, 12:09 PM

When has Brown ever, ever lived up to his potential?

Brown has had to deal with two cruciate's. One is bad enough but two. If he remained free of serious injury throughout his career I dont think United would have splashed out £3om on Rio. He's only played 180 games for United yet his been on the verge of the 1st team since '98. Thats 7 years with only 180 games. Its only this year Carragher has played like a quality centre half and thats because he's not being pushed in & out of various positions. If Brown is given 1st choice centre back status at United I think he'll turn out to be even more impressive than Carragher.

I_LIKE_R_L

05-05-2005, 12:10 PM

yes liverpool or Arsenal to win the Champions league, and West Brom to mount a late charge and win the premiership!!!

*as a squadron of flying pigs soars majestically by*

might this be the one you saw???

http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/2newhours/images/flying_p.gif

Sound

05-05-2005, 12:22 PM

Brown has had to deal with two cruciate's. One is bad enough but two. If he remained free of serious injury throughout his career I dont think United would have splashed out £3om on Rio. He's only played 180 games for United yet his been on the verge of the 1st team since '98. Thats 7 years with only 180 games. Its only this year Carragher has played like a quality centre half and thats because he's not being pushed in & out of various positions. If Brown is given 1st choice centre back status at United I think he'll turn out to be even more impressive than Carragher.

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. If we are going to start crying about injury then lets have Robbie Fowler back and play him alongside Van Basten!

He has had terrible injuries and that is unfortunate but he has also proved unreliable when given the first choice berth at CH. He has dropped clanger after clanger but people keep banging on about his potential. Senderos at the Arse has had games to bed in (which is vital for a young defender) made a few boo-boos but come shining through. When has Brown done this.

He never will.

STEVIEG

05-05-2005, 12:24 PM

Brown is still young but his injury hit career hasn't prevented him from winning major honours that other players would kill for. Nuff said.

Sound

05-05-2005, 12:35 PM

Brown is still young but his injury hit career hasn't prevented him from winning major honours that other players would kill for. Nuff said.

Ludicrous. The hackneyed 'Show us yer medals' argument says that Roque Junior,David May and Djimi Traore are better players than Wayne Rooney. Cop on.

Mr. R.M. Keane

05-05-2005, 12:37 PM

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. If we are going to start crying about injury then lets have Robbie Fowler back and play him alongside Van Basten!

He has had terrible injuries and that is unfortunate but he has also proved unreliable when given the first choice berth at CH. He has dropped clanger after clanger but people keep banging on about his potential. Senderos at the Arse has had games to bed in (which is vital for a young defender) made a few boo-boos but come shining through. When has Brown done this.

He never will.

Clanger & after clanger you say? He's never scored 2 own goals in the same match has he? As for Sendoros & Brown at the mo then Brown is playing every bit as good.

STEVIEG

05-05-2005, 12:37 PM

Its one way of looking at things. Anyway i thought Djimni was the best defender on earth besides Jamie Carragher......

Sound

05-05-2005, 12:38 PM

Its one way of looking at things. Anyway i thought Djimni was the best defender on earth besides Jamie Carragher......

If you dont want to debate the point- why post?

Mr. R.M. Keane

05-05-2005, 12:39 PM

Its one way of looking at things. Anyway i thought Djimni was the best defender on earth besides Jamie Carragher......

Master of the dragback.

POL

05-05-2005, 12:39 PM

Its one way of looking at things. Anyway i thought Djimni was the best defender on earth besides Jamie Carragher......

nonsence, everybody knows its Rio "more" Ferdinand

STEVIEG

05-05-2005, 12:40 PM

True

sunbabe08

25-05-2005, 09:19 AM

liverpool supporter tonight *blush*

AmadeusDC

25-05-2005, 11:41 AM

In fairness to old Naff-Jacket he gives out his fair amount of shit but a lot of people on this forum should be sirected to pages 1-3 of this thread in light of tonights line up for the Champions League final. Called it early i must say Naff, oh and did you ever get the 50????

-AmadeusDC-

Up For The Ba

25-05-2005, 12:59 PM

firstly it was a hundred and secondly i told him it was ok.

I have to say fair play here too, i never thought this would be possible and i`m sure i`m not alone there. I always pay up my bets, but i`m in credit for the 2 Arsenal games earlier this year, so quite sporting of ya to say ok ;)

AmadeusDC

25-05-2005, 12:59 PM

firstly it was a hundred and secondly i told him it was ok.

Well it was 50 and the offer of doubles or quits............ i only went back to the first 3 pages. -AmadeusDC-

MonTheHoops

26-05-2005, 08:47 AM

ahh well.........

That's a long time ago. Fair play.

POL

26-05-2005, 08:48 AM

yes liverpool or Arsenal to win the Champions league, and West Brom to mount a late charge and win the premiership!!!

*as a squadron of flying pigs soars majestically by*

http://english.people.com.c n/200505/26/images/liverpool1.jpg

Up For The Ba

26-05-2005, 10:11 AM

how about now?

If it all started again, i`d say the same thing, i got it wrong, as you have gotten lots of other stuff wrong this year. By the way, you didnt call this since September, look at the start of this thread, your first choice was Arsenal, second choice Liverpool. For having faith in them fair play, and you are a richer man for it today, hats off, but at least tell it like it is.

Up For The Ba

26-05-2005, 11:07 AM

thats me heart calling on arsenal.
but if you do a search on all my posts and go back to last september youll see that i went for the pool. When i get me docket ill post the date.

Fair enough, I hadnt enough credit in me phone last night to get back to ya. I bet you were thinking twice about that covering bet at half time though!

Up For The Ba

26-05-2005, 11:26 AM

no. I had a feeling the pool was gona win it from the get go. I wouldnt kinx them by changing my mind and covering.

So you can honestly tell me that at half time, 3-0 down, getting destroyed that you still thought that they`d win?????? I dont believe that for a minute.

STEVIEG

26-05-2005, 11:27 AM

So you can honestly tell me that at half time, 3-0 down, getting destroyed that you still thought that they`d win?????? I dont believe that for a minute.

He is the Special One

Up For The Ba

26-05-2005, 11:41 AM

He is the Special One

Touchè Stevie ;) Hey Naff, you wouldnt have the numbers for next Saturdays lotto by any chance would ya?

STEVIEG

26-05-2005, 11:51 AM

If you read this statement with a bit of a Portugese twinge he even sounds like Jose!

Up For The Ba

26-05-2005, 11:58 AM

look my friend. If at halftime and 3nil down if i was offered to sell my dockets i wouldnt have. Milan are weak. As proved by deportivo, as proved by psv, as proved by any other team that goes at them. As soon as hammann came on I knew the game would change. I said yesterday it would be a draw, it was. I said liverpool would win the champions league, they did. I said id leave you off the money you owe me, I did.

Like i said, what are the numbers for saturday night? And what happened to the money i won on those Arsenal games? Left off too, one of those is even in this thread. I dont shun out of a bet, and to be honest i`ve no regrets, i`ll put my money where my mouth is just as quick in the future, Liverpool proved me wrong in every round of the competition, and i really take my hat off to them for that. Fair play to you for sticking by the pool but at half time Milan didnt look very weak and not even the most optimistic of us could have forseen what happened in the second half.