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richiepurg
24-01-2010, 01:53 PM
Most of them anyway. There's two stories regarding child abuse cover up and SF leaders being covered by Sunday Tribune and UTV. If it involved any other party you'd have front page and inside pages full of it as well as special programmes on tv and radio. Gerry Adams , in particular, has some serious questions to answer. SF claimed to have suspended a woman councillor a year ago against whom serious allegations were made, yet her contact details were on their website up to a few days ago.
Why the conspiracy of silence by the rest of the media ?

Cannabis
24-01-2010, 04:59 PM
the peace process must be protected at all times or the almighty ra will have to make the biggest comeback since take that and finish the job once and for all.

richiepurg
24-01-2010, 08:13 PM
Just read this in today's online edition of the Tribune. Christ , the shinners , and particularly Adams , could have given lessons to the vilest members of the Catholic Church on how not to face up to child abuse within their ranks.
http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2010/jan/24/the-truth-about-gerry-adams-has-been-dragged-kicki/

Cannabis
25-01-2010, 12:13 AM
did gerry adams molest you? If not wheres the proof? Your making wild claims.

Corcaigh32
25-01-2010, 03:28 AM
The media afraid of Sinn Fein? Are you joking or what? Vilification and venom from the revisionist D4 O'Reilly Rag mob, not to mention the Oirish's and the redtops and throw in RTE for good measure. There isn't an unbiased broadsheet left on the island let alone a nationalist or republican one. They get hammered at every turn.

richiepurg
25-01-2010, 08:09 AM
did gerry adams molest you? If not wheres the proof? Your making wild claims.

Just read the article. Adams himself says he believes his niece when she says she was abused by his brother ( her father ) , yet he did nothing when the brother went on to play a prominent role in SF in Dundalk and West Belfast as well as working with children in both places. The SF leader tries to blame it all on a media conspiracy instead of facing up to the facts. Corcaigh 32 follows the party line as well.

Corcaigh32
25-01-2010, 11:42 AM
Richie let's be clear about one thing - Adams' brother is a paedophile and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The difference between you and I is this. The fact that he is Adams' brother is utterly irrelevant in this. If it was your brother or my brother would it be of any relevance? No. The only reason it is getting airplay at all is precisely because it provides an opportunity to have a cut off Sinn Féin.

I am not toeing any party line - the Irish media hates Sinn Féin - it's part of our self-loathing complex.

rebelicecreamman
25-01-2010, 11:47 AM
Its not about what Gerrys brother did, Corcaigh. Its about what Gerry did or didn't do when he knew what he indisputably knew. What his Neice had to say yesterday was shocking.

Cliff Barnes
25-01-2010, 11:54 AM
These people are scum - sub human scum along with their loyalist counterparts.

The world and this country has had enough of their murdering,band robbing,drug dealing, Robert McCartney cover up.

40 years of this lying crap from Gerry Adams.

Gerry what did you do while you were interned " Oh we sang always look on the bright side of life" by Monty Python ( The song was not released when he was inside )

Sure he cannot even admit he was in the I.R.A. and now a paedo cover up ?

Corcaigh32
25-01-2010, 12:06 PM
Its not about what Gerrys brother did, Corcaigh. Its about what Gerry did or didn't do when he knew what he indisputably knew. What his Neice had to say yesterday was shocking.

OK lads, I was out of the country until 4 am this morning so didn't hear what his niece said - maybe there is a piece I am missing.

ProfessorPwn
25-01-2010, 12:32 PM
These people are scum - sub human scum along with their loyalist counterparts.

The world and this country has had enough of their murdering,band robbing,drug dealing, Robert McCartney cover up.

40 years of this lying crap from Gerry Adams.

Gerry what did you do while you were interned " Oh we sang always look on the bright side of life" by Monty Python ( The song was not released when he was inside )

Sure he cannot even admit he was in the I.R.A. and now a paedo cover up ?

Says the lad who did a tribute thread to Davey Ervine

o_2_b_a_rebel
25-01-2010, 03:01 PM
Most of them anyway. There's two stories regarding child abuse cover up and SF leaders being covered by Sunday Tribune and UTV. If it involved any other party you'd have front page and inside pages full of it as well as special programmes on tv and radio. Gerry Adams , in particular, has some serious questions to answer. SF claimed to have suspended a woman councillor a year ago against whom serious allegations were made, yet her contact details were on their website up to a few days ago.
Why the conspiracy of silence by the rest of the media ?

Irish media are serial Sinn Fein bashers, even more so after they negotiated peace in the North.
Short memories a lot of folk have.

Eoin
25-01-2010, 03:29 PM
UOUeauLWEaE

richiepurg
25-01-2010, 05:27 PM
Irish media are serial Sinn Fein bashers, even more so after they negotiated peace in the North.
Short memories a lot of folk have.

The " we are the victims in all of this " goes on. If you or I behaved towards a victim of sex abuse the way Gerry Adams did, papers like the Sunday World, etc. would be encamped in the front garden with telescopic lenses and be shouting questions in the letter box such as " Why did you tell lies about ' moving against your brother when you believed him to be a paedophile ? ' and " Why did you continue to allow your brother to work with children when you believed him to be a paedophile ? "

o_2_b_a_rebel
25-01-2010, 05:53 PM
The " we are the victims in all of this " goes on. If you or I behaved towards a victim of sex abuse the way Gerry Adams did, papers like the Sunday World, etc. would be encamped in the front garden with telescopic lenses and be shouting questions in the letter box such as " Why did you tell lies about ' moving against your brother when you believed him to be a paedophile ? ' and " Why did you continue to allow your brother to work with children when you believed him to be a paedophile ? "

yawn :sleeping:

richiepurg
30-01-2010, 12:52 PM
Have just seen this on www.sluggerotoole.co m.



This statement comes to Slugger from Ms Cahill. It is carried in full.

Over the last number of weeks, there have been several allegations circulating – alleged to have been perpetrated by members of the Republican Movement.

There has been mixed reaction to this within the Republican Community, but particularly those within the Provisional republican movement, and those within Sinn Fein Circles. This reaction ranges from outright disgust, horror, condemnation, to the very damaging “turn a blind eye and say nothing” approach. There are obviously people understandably angry as a result – not least the victims. There is a lot of hurt within this community also, hurt which has been compounded by recent contradictions, mistruths, outright denials and certain media spin, which has the potential to deflect away from the real issue – the alleged cover up of paedophilia within certain quarters. Whatever that hurt, there are also families hurting too, people who are trying to come to terms with their lives right across this island, and trying to deal with the fact that members of these families were abused.

There are also parents, rightly angry and worried about their children. People are now backtracking through the years, wondering if their children have come into contact with perpetrators - and they are also rightly questioning if they trust the people they know now. This is a massive issue, and it is a disgrace that alleged child abusers have had free reign to have access to other children. Collectively, we now know more about the issue of sex offenders and reoffending rates. It is likely that perpetrators do not rehabilitate by just simply moving on somewhere else. We know as republicans of a number of cases being discussed at present – is this just the tip of the iceberg? How many more children have been put at risk as a result of mishandling, and in some cases planned facilitation of moving people around the country?

I also want to make it clear, paedophilia is not restricted to members of the Republican Movement. Unfortunately, paedophiles ingratiate themselves in all walks of life. In some instances they are our relatives, friends, priests, professionals, community and youth workers, lawyers, teachers, doctors – the list is endless. No one is blaming the republican movement for members of that movement who inflicted sexual abuse on others.

The blame, however is rightly centred around how the republican movement dealt with the issue, in several cases. It is clear from these cases that not once did the people involved either in so called investigating or in listening, directly report to any of the authorities. They also retraumatised victims of sexual abuse by either their chosen action, or inaction. It is also abundantly clear, for anyone who wishes to take the blinkers off, that paedophiles have been able to move around the country and further afield. In some cases they continued to masquerade as republicans, which in turn afforded them protection, or at the very least a degree of trust, which then also in turn made it easier for them to do what they did, unchecked. That is disgraceful, and brings a deep sense of shame on anyone who continues to support the republican ideology. The fault for this lies squarely with those in positions of power who espoused themselves as the epitome of republicanism, individuals who were looked up to by some, and who now feel tarnished by that association.

There are people out there now who have knowledge in different parts of Ireland on similar allegations of sexual abuse. Are you one of them? There are also people who have heard things on the grapevine about similar alleged cover-ups. Again, does this apply to you?

By not speaking out, you allow yourself to become complicit in the same alleged collective cover-up. I am appealing directly to all republicans from all persuasions to tell what you know. No perpetrator should be allowed to continue to abuse. No movement should give them succour by shielding them. And no republican should sit on the fence on this issue, waiting on other victims to come forward in the hope that the full story should start to emerge.

Be proactive. Do not continue with the legacy of silence. Out all the cases of child and adult sexual abuse. Highlight any suspicion, or knowledge of cover ups. Do this through whatever channel is comfortable for you. An email has been set up, by myself to deal with this issue. If this is an avenue you feel comfortable with using, use it.

I also want to directly appeal to those still within Sinn Fein. I am aware that some of you refuse to believe that this happened at all. People will make up their own minds on the issue. However, as a human, there has to be a shadow of doubt in your mind. Ask the hard questions, and demand an answer. If you are not happy, demand again. No one can afford to put politics over the safety of children. As a human being, you cannot afford to stay silent on this issue. Do the right thing.

Email: exposethetruth2010@h otmail.com

Is mise le meas

******* Cahill



Background

EXCLUSIVE - Gerry Adams ignored two more rape victims

Grand-niece of Provo legend endured horrific sexual abuse

Sinn Fein denies mishandling abuse claim

‘Article was accurate and truthful account’ – rape victim


Rusty Nail @ 11:08 AM

captainshamrock
30-01-2010, 02:37 PM
The " we are the victims in all of this " goes on. If you or I behaved towards a victim of sex abuse the way Gerry Adams did, papers like the Sunday World, etc. would be encamped in the front garden with telescopic lenses and be shouting questions in the letter box such as " Why did you tell lies about ' moving against your brother when you believed him to be a paedophile ? ' and " Why did you continue to allow your brother to work with children when you believed him to be a paedophile ? "

Bollocks, the media in this country were quite happy to ignore child abuse by the clergy until the 90's and even after it all came out they still didn't go after all the bishops who covered it up and moved the priests so they could have fresh virgin children to rape. Thats why no bishop has been charged of any offence when it is common knowledge they covered up and facilitated child rape.
Don't know enough about the Adams case to say whether criminal charges should be brought but as it seems he was aware he should be gonzo from SF at the very least. If the abuse continued after he knew then he should be charged with something.

richiepurg
30-01-2010, 02:51 PM
Bollocks, the media in this country were quite happy to ignore child abuse by the clergy until the 90's and even after it all came out they still didn't go after all the bishops who covered it up and moved the priests so they could have fresh virgin children to rape. Thats why no bishop has been charged of any offence when it is common knowledge they covered up and facilitated child rape.
Don't know enough about the Adams case to say whether criminal charges should be brought but as it seems he was aware he should be gonzo from SF at the very least. If the abuse continued after he knew then he should be charged with something.
I'd agree with you to a point about the media, first real uncovering came from UTV about Brendan Smith. But the collusion was at the highest, between bishops and Gardaí , so media would have been hard pressed to get at the real story.

Problem with Adams is that he has lied a few times on this, claiming to have moved to get rid of his brother from the party when he ( GA ) believed him to be a paedophile. Not alone did he not get rid of him, but the brother came close to getting a nomination as a SF candidate in Louth and went on to work with kids in Dundalk and West Belfast , all of this after GA says he moved against him.
The stepchildren of a SF councillor in Belfast then went public on some really horrible and sustained abuse of them by the councillor.
SF 's only response seems to be that it is all a campaign against them by the Sunday Tribune journalist , Susan Breen.