Israel - "The height of humiliation"

[o_2_b_a_rebel]

I understand that Israelis have a big fucking chip on their shoulders and rightly so too but will they ever move on and treat others with any respect?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8456804.stm

Turkey threatens diplomatic action over Israel 'snub'


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47092000/jpg/_47092205_ayalon226. jpg One newspaper captioned the picture "the height of humiliation" [Image: Lior Mizrahi/Israel Hayom]

Turkey has said it will recall its ambassador unless a row over his treatment by Israel's deputy foreign minister is rapidly resolved.
The dispute comes after the deputy minister, Danny Ayalon, summoned the ambassador, Oguz Celikkolits, to rebuke him over a TV series.
He then ensured the ambassador was seated on a lower chair and removed the Turkish flag from the table.
In an attempt to defuse the row, Mr Ayalon said disrespect "is not my way".
He said in future he would behave "in a diplomatically acceptable manner".
But Turkey has demanded a formal apology from Israel.
"Unless they make up for it by this evening, our ambassador will return on the first plane tomorrow," President Abdullah Gul was quoted as saying by the NTV news channel.
'Repeated provocation'
Footage of Mr Ayalon urging journalists to make clear the ambassador was seated on a low sofa, while the Israeli officials were in much higher chairs, has been widely broadcast by the Israeli media.
He is also heard pointing out in Hebrew that "there is only one flag" and "we are not smiling". In an interview with Israel's Army Radio on Tuesday, Mr Ayalon was unapologetic.
"In terms of the diplomatic tactics available, this was the minimum that was warranted given the repeated provocation by political and other players in Turkey," he said, according to Reuters.
One Israeli newspaper marked the height difference on the photo, and captioned it "the height of humiliation".
The meeting with Mr Celikkol had been called to discuss the fictional television series Valley of the Wolves, popular in Turkey.
It depicts Israeli intelligence operatives kidnapping babies and converting them to Judaism.
Last October Israel complained over another Turkish series, which depicted Israeli soldiers killing Palestinians. In one clip, an Israeli soldier shoots dead a smiling young girl at close range.
The row comes ahead of a planned visit by Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak to Turkey on Sunday.
Rocket fire
BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says Israel is alarmed by what it sees as Turkey's increasing efforts to develop closer ties in the Arab world, which "inevitably raise questions about Ankara's long-standing and once close relationship with Israel".
Turkey has long been an ally of Israel, but relations have deteriorated as Ankara has repeatedly criticised Israel for its offensive in Gaza a year ago.
Rights groups say about 1,400 Palestinians died during the operation, which Israel said had been aimed at ending rocket fire by Hamas.
Thirteen Israelis died during the violence.

[Cannabis]

fuckin jews

[strict66]

I understand that Israelis have a big fucking chip on their shoulders and rightly so too but will they ever move on and treat others with any respect?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8456804.stm

Turkey threatens diplomatic action over Israel 'snub'


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47092000/jpg/_47092205_ayalon226. jpg One newspaper captioned the picture "the height of humiliation" [Image: Lior Mizrahi/Israel Hayom]

Turkey has said it will recall its ambassador unless a row over his treatment by Israel's deputy foreign minister is rapidly resolved.
The dispute comes after the deputy minister, Danny Ayalon, summoned the ambassador, Oguz Celikkolits, to rebuke him over a TV series.
He then ensured the ambassador was seated on a lower chair and removed the Turkish flag from the table.
In an attempt to defuse the row, Mr Ayalon said disrespect "is not my way".
He said in future he would behave "in a diplomatically acceptable manner".
But Turkey has demanded a formal apology from Israel.
"Unless they make up for it by this evening, our ambassador will return on the first plane tomorrow," President Abdullah Gul was quoted as saying by the NTV news channel.
'Repeated provocation'
Footage of Mr Ayalon urging journalists to make clear the ambassador was seated on a low sofa, while the Israeli officials were in much higher chairs, has been widely broadcast by the Israeli media.
He is also heard pointing out in Hebrew that "there is only one flag" and "we are not smiling". In an interview with Israel's Army Radio on Tuesday, Mr Ayalon was unapologetic.
"In terms of the diplomatic tactics available, this was the minimum that was warranted given the repeated provocation by political and other players in Turkey," he said, according to Reuters.
One Israeli newspaper marked the height difference on the photo, and captioned it "the height of humiliation".
The meeting with Mr Celikkol had been called to discuss the fictional television series Valley of the Wolves, popular in Turkey.
It depicts Israeli intelligence operatives kidnapping babies and converting them to Judaism.
Last October Israel complained over another Turkish series, which depicted Israeli soldiers killing Palestinians. In one clip, an Israeli soldier shoots dead a smiling young girl at close range.
The row comes ahead of a planned visit by Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak to Turkey on Sunday.
Rocket fire
BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says Israel is alarmed by what it sees as Turkey's increasing efforts to develop closer ties in the Arab world, which "inevitably raise questions about Ankara's long-standing and once close relationship with Israel".
Turkey has long been an ally of Israel, but relations have deteriorated as Ankara has repeatedly criticised Israel for its offensive in Gaza a year ago.
Rights groups say about 1,400 Palestinians died during the operation, which Israel said had been aimed at ending rocket fire by Hamas.
Thirteen Israelis died during the violence.

Turkey of all places, the shining light of human rights and democracy.
I mean look how well they treat Kurds and Armenians.

[debgor2]

All we ISRAELIS have to do is stop vacationing in turkey. That will kill their economy.

[eire_sai]

All we ISRAELIS have to do is stop vacationing in turkey. That will kill their economy.

Hardly

[Jinky]

All we ISRAELIS have to do is stop vacationing in turkey. That will kill their economy.
They'd recoup all monies lost in sales of party hats.

[debgor2]

They'd recoup all monies lost in sales of party hats.
During the season, there are more Israelis than turks in Antalya.

[Jinky]

Thanks for the heads up. They'd better watch their homes then I guess.

[o_2_b_a_rebel]

All we ISRAELIS have to do is stop vacationing in turkey. That will kill their economy.

Sher Israel has not many other options when it comes to holidays from the amount of nations that it has offended. Thailand is a long way to have to drag all your foodstuffs, pots, pans, plates, cutlery and the whole shebang so you lot will have to hold your tongue when Israel wants to patronise them and treat them like dirt on your shoes.

Anyway, why dont you address the topic rather than do the Israeli thing of going on the offensive always?

[hemlock666]

All we ISRAELIS have to do is stop vacationing in turkey. That will kill their economy.

Too well armed to treat like the Palestinians eh? Is there a cut off point where a country is too dodgy to fuck with?

[debgor2]

We have plenty of holiday options fool. As for addressing the topic: I don't understand Ayalon's game plan. If you have a gripe, say what's on your mind and don't play mine is bigger than yours.

[Plinth]

Israel's government will try to claim that it is a modern, equitable, democratic society, but it is still permeated too deeply with fundamental religious belief and extreme patriotism which seem to be blinding them from making rational, sensible decisions. They are pissing nations off left, right and centre, and what's worse, they seem to be out to please no one but the fundamentalist elements in their own country. It seems to me from reading articles/watching documentaries that the vast majority of the public want compromise and peace - they want modern, secular values. The majority of Palestinians and Arabs in Israel want the same thing. It's the extremists who rule the roost unfortunately.

But yeah, that little stunt with Turkey is just embarassing for Israel. The Israeli government might be chuckling away but the rest of the world is doing this:

http://ownedirl.com/motivators/disapproval.jpg


debgor2 - are you satisfied with the Israeli government?

[debgor2]

Israel's government will try to claim that it is a modern, equitable, democratic society, but it is still permeated too deeply with fundamental religious belief and extreme patriotism which seem to be blinding them from making rational, sensible decisions. They are pissing nations off left, right and centre, and what's worse, they seem to be out to please no one but the fundamentalist elements in their own country. It seems to me from reading articles/watching documentaries that the vast majority of the public want compromise and peace - they want modern, secular values. The majority of Palestinians and Arabs in Israel want the same thing. It's the extremists who rule the roost unfortunately.

But yeah, that little stunt with Turkey is just embarassing for Israel. The Israeli government might be chuckling away but the rest of the world is doing this:

http://ownedirl.com/motivators/disapproval.jpg


debgor2 - are you satisfied with the Israeli government?
no