The UDA Disbands

[Youghal Exile]

I think both side in the north are as bad as each other and this is a positive step.I'll say this much about the loyalist groups at least they didn't engage in mass bombing campaigns like the IRA although they were behind some despicable acts themselves.There is still the threat from dissidents but at least the largest loyalist group along with the PIRA is standing down.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8442683.stm

[Cannabis]

I think both side in the north are as bad as each other and this is a positive step.I'll say this much about the loyalist groups at least they didn't engage in mass bombing campaigns like the IRA although they were behind some despicable acts themselves.There is still the threat from dissidents but at least the largest loyalist group along with the PIRA is standing down.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8442683.stm

Oh yes well done to them they only butchered innocent catholics to death they didnt blow them up like the uvf or target actual millatry personal like the I.R.A. This act means nothing these scum showed in 09 they need no weapons to kill people as they did to mcdaid.

Thank god the almighty ra army of thor and jesus was there to defend there communities when these serial killers and there brit masters who armed them were running wild they saved many a life. Bless you i.r.a. Gerry bringing of peace beard of hope.

[Youghal Exile]

Oh yes well done to them they only butchered innocent catholics to death they didnt blow them up like the uvf or target actual millatry personal like the I.R.A. This act means nothing these scum showed in 09 they need no weapons to kill people as they did to mcdaid.

Thank god the almighty ra army of thor and jesus was there to defend there communities when these serial killers and there brit masters who armed them were running wild they saved many a life. Bless you i.r.a. Gerry bringing of peace beard of hope.

According to some book i read the UDA was bought in as a defence group for the loyalist community in response to the PIRA?

[Cannabis]

The came about in 71 and did no defence of anything except kill catholics. Sad to see you pledge your support to them. Were you a member?

[Youghal Exile]

The came about in 71 and did no defence of anything except kill catholics. Sad to see you pledge your support to them. Were you a member?

I support neither of these gangs of murderers although that is what was put down on a text book.

[Cannabis]

Ridiculous the I.R.A never murdered anyone. I think you should leave

[Youghal Exile]

Ridiculous the I.R.A never murdered anyone. I think you should leave

So the loyalists planted the warrington bomb.:rolleyes:

[Cannabis]

So the loyalists planted the warrington bomb.:rolleyes:

Don't know what your taking about terrorist supporter that event never happened brit propaganda

[Youghal Exile]

Don't know what your taking about terrorist supporter that event never happened brit propaganda

How silly of me of course it never happened.

[dsfella]

So the loyalists planted the warrington bomb.:rolleyes:

No but loyalists planted the Dublin and Monaghan bombs in your country.I am no supporter of the Provos but the UDA were/are no different to any other group who used violence in the six counties.

[Youghal Exile]

No but loyalists planted the Dublin and Monaghan bombs in your country.I am no supporter of the Provos but the UDA were/are no different to any other group who used violence in the six counties.

That's what im saying both sides loyalist and republican were/are as bad as each other.

[dsfella]

That's what im saying both sides loyalist and republican were/are as bad as each other.

Ya fair enough but the UDA were totally sectarian.A legitimate target for these morons could be decided by the direction you were walking on a Belfast street.

Drug dealing scum the lot of em e.g. Johnny Adair,Jim Gray.

[Youghal Exile]

Ya fair enough but the UDA were totally sectarian.A legitimate target for these morons could be decided by the direction you were walking on a Belfast street.

Drug dealing scum the lot of em e.g. Johnny Adair,Jim Gray.

They did kick adair and the shukris out and they shot jim gray.So they did deal with the drug dealing element.With that said though the UDA/UVF are no angels and there is a lot of blood on there hands too.

[Funky Munky]

No but loyalists planted the Dublin and Monaghan bombs in your country.I am no supporter of the Provos but the UDA were/are no different to any other group who used violence in the six counties.

They were worse than the Provos...State sponsored terrorists....

[Youghal Exile]

They were worse than the Provos...State sponsored terrorists....

They were a legal organisation up untill 1992 so that tell's a lot about how in they were with the british authorities

[dsfella]

They did kick adair and the shukris out and they shot jim gray.So they did deal with the drug dealing element.With that said though the UDA/UVF are no angels and there is a lot of blood on there hands too.

These organisations are funded entrely on Racketeering and Drug dealing.Adair will probably be shown in time to have been a british agent as for the Shoukri brothers they were just edged out to be replaced by less conspicous scum.

You should read about Brian Nelson to see how this group were controlled by the british military.

[Corcaigh32]

Lads, it's a positive step. What gets me is the one sided nature of the commentary on it especially from people south of the "border"? We are so full of self-loathing and have been brainwashed by the D4, revisionist media that we accept that loyalist paramilitaries were "defending" themselves against PIRA.

You can make an argument for armed struggle on legitimate grounds e.g. French resistance in WWII or PLO in Palestine or the "old" IRA in early 20th century Ireland. There are some who would make the same argument about armed struggle in the late 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. You can make that argument on the basis that in essence what you have is a war of independence or a war for freedom.

Or you can quite simply say - all killing is wrong and can never be justified. In that instance it doesn't matter whether you are a Spitfire pilot, Michael Collins, an SAS man on Gibraltar, the IRA man who ACTUALLY planted the Guildford pub bombings or Johnny Adair, there is no hierarchy of morality or victimhood, it is just plain and simply wrong.

Fact of the matter is whether you believe the red-top, O'Reilly Rag, D4 media version of events or the unpalatable version that Irish people would sooner forget because it doesn't fit with the Celtic cub, Riverdance image we etched for ourselves in the 90's - as of today there are less guns available to kill catholics, nationalists and republicans with - i.e. less guns to kill people with in the 6 counties. That must be a positive.

[dsfella]

Lads, it's a positive step. What gets me is the one sided nature of the commentary on it especially from people south of the "border"? We are so full of self-loathing and have been brainwashed by the D4, revisionist media that we accept that loyalist paramilitaries were "defending" themselves against PIRA.

You can make an argument for armed struggle on legitimate grounds e.g. French resistance in WWII or PLO in Palestine or the "old" IRA in early 20th century Ireland. There are some who would make the same argument about armed struggle in the late 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. You can make that argument on the basis that in essence what you have is a war of independence or a war for freedom.

Or you can quite simply say - all killing is wrong and can never be justified. In that instance it doesn't matter whether you are a Spitfire pilot, Michael Collins, an SAS man on Gibraltar, the IRA man who ACTUALLY planted the Guildford pub bombings or Johnny Adair, there is no hierarchy of morality or victimhood, it is just plain and simply wrong.

Fact of the matter is whether you believe the red-top, O'Reilly Rag, D4 media version of events or the unpalatable version that Irish people would sooner forget because it doesn't fit with the Celtic cub, Riverdance image we etched for ourselves in the 90's - as of today there are less guns available to kill catholics, nationalists and republicans with - i.e. less guns to kill people with in the 6 counties. That must be a positive.

Well written comment.Totally agree with your revisionist statement but it was unfortunately a corkman and who drove a lot of that agenda with as you rightly called the O'Reilly rag.

Also agree with you that less guns are a good thing in that society but i am old enough to remember these"poor under siege UDA" and how they protected their community.

[a honest mistake]

Youghal exile please quit reading the sunday world.




Please like..

[Youghal Exile]

Youghal exile please quit reading the sunday world.




Please like..

They did an article there a few years ago giving out about the UDA banning sales of it in North Belfast but i gave up reading that paper ages ago.

[Corcaigh32]

Interesting to see what the next de Chastelain report says.........

[Cannabis]

Lads, it's a positive step. What gets me is the one sided nature of the commentary on it especially from people south of the "border"? We are so full of self-loathing and have been brainwashed by the D4, revisionist media that we accept that loyalist paramilitaries were "defending" themselves against PIRA.

You can make an argument for armed struggle on legitimate grounds e.g. French resistance in WWII or PLO in Palestine or the "old" IRA in early 20th century Ireland. There are some who would make the same argument about armed struggle in the late 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. You can make that argument on the basis that in essence what you have is a war of independence or a war for freedom.

Or you can quite simply say - all killing is wrong and can never be justified. In that instance it doesn't matter whether you are a Spitfire pilot, Michael Collins, an SAS man on Gibraltar, the IRA man who ACTUALLY planted the Guildford pub bombings or Johnny Adair, there is no hierarchy of morality or victimhood, it is just plain and simply wrong.

Fact of the matter is whether you believe the red-top, O'Reilly Rag, D4 media version of events or the unpalatable version that Irish people would sooner forget because it doesn't fit with the Celtic cub, Riverdance image we etched for ourselves in the 90's - as of today there are less guns available to kill catholics, nationalists and republicans with - i.e. less guns to kill people with in the 6 counties. That must be a positive.

Great post. You have fabulous facial hair

[Corcaigh32]

I do?

[Cannabis]

dont touch me

[Corcaigh32]

Ah with ya - not a member of the Adams Family though.

[Hairyhans]

I think both side in the north are as bad as each other and this is a positive step.I'll say this much about the loyalist groups at least they didn't engage in mass bombing campaigns like the IRA although they were behind some despicable acts themselves.There is still the threat from dissidents but at least the largest loyalist group along with the PIRA is standing down.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8442683.stm

Oh yeah.What about the Dublin ,Monaghan bombings?33 dead.Nobody charged after 36 years.

[Cannabis]

Oh yeah.What about the Dublin ,Monaghan bombings?33 dead.Nobody charged after 36 years.

that was the uvf not the uda. Dont mind YE he is a unionist and promotes the extermination of catholics and supports and defends unionst death squads. He was also a member.