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superfantango
07-12-2009, 02:10 AM
Funny no mention of it on Irish news:confused:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11289 4&sectionid=351020202

Israeli authorities deny Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheal Martin permission to visit the impoverished coastal sliver of Gaza which has long been under an Israeli siege.

Speaking at the Oireachtas Committee on European Affairs on Friday, Martin said no substantive reason had been given for the refusal.

"I just wanted to go in myself and see Gaza," he said according to the Irish Times newspaper.

Similar requests from other European countries had also been turned down.

The Irish Foreign Minister meanwhile described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as 'completely unacceptable.'

"If progress is not realized quickly, then the international community as a whole may need to reconsider what further pressure it can bring in favor of achieving a negotiated, two-state settlement," Martin told the committee.

Israel has imposed a crippling siege on the Gaza Strip since.

The Israeli army also launched a massive military offensive, known as 'Operation Cast Lead' against the coastal sliver in December 2008 and January 2009. More than 1,400 Palestinians were killed during the three-week offensive, which inflicted $ 1.6 billion of damage to the Gazan economy.

“I am appalled by the indiscriminate attacks by Israeli forces which have resulted in so many civilian fatalities. The death and suffering, as well as the humanitarian deprivation, now being inflicted on the people of Gaza as a result of the continuation of the Israeli Operation Cast Lead cannot be justified in any way and must now be brought to an immediate end," Martin stated.

Martin also called on Tel Aviv to provide further clear evidence it was 'serious about engaging in peace negotiations' rather than being more preoccupied with 'simply managing what could well escalate into a situation of incipient conflict.'

debgor2
07-12-2009, 08:09 AM
I haven't read anything about it in this morning's Israeli newspapers.

hemlock666
07-12-2009, 01:29 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/1207/1224260240107.html

http://www.examiner.com/x-23325-Tampa-Deism-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Israel-bullies-Irish-Minister-of-Foreign-Affairs-prevents-visit-to-Gaza

debgor2
07-12-2009, 08:13 PM
Thank you for the articles. There's still no mention of it here.

blackie
07-12-2009, 08:15 PM
maybe they could keep him .

10PennySweets
07-12-2009, 09:55 PM
Its typical.

poulgorm
07-12-2009, 10:10 PM
Think of the money they saved us, hard-pressed taxpayers, by refusing entry to Micilín Martin.

Thank you, Israel

10PennySweets
07-12-2009, 10:19 PM
The shit that Israel are attempting to conceal is unbelieveable

debgor2
08-12-2009, 10:42 AM
Your shit is unbelievable.

hemlock666
08-12-2009, 11:07 AM
Thank you for the articles. There's still no mention of it here.

Creative editing? Maybe its at the back in the small ads.

debgor2
08-12-2009, 01:46 PM
Creative editing? Maybe its at the back in the small ads.
I read the newspapers on line. Israeli newspapers don't have creative editing. They report what we want to hear as well as those things we'd like to forget. If I find out anything I'll let you know.

hemlock666
08-12-2009, 02:07 PM
I read the newspapers on line. Israeli newspapers don't have creative editing. They report what we want to hear as well as those things we'd like to forget. If I find out anything I'll let you know.

That is one of the most naieve things Ive read here in a while. ALL newspapers have creative editing. No matter where.

pudgee
08-12-2009, 02:11 PM
what the hell is 'creative editing'?

hemlock666
08-12-2009, 02:14 PM
what the hell is 'creative editing'?

Packaging. The way a story is presented can effect the way it percieved. Have a look across the various papers or sites at the same story and you can see it in action. Murdoch, of course, is a genius at it.

pudgee
08-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Packaging. The way a story is presented can effect the way it percieved. Have a look across the various papers or sites at the same story and you can see it in action. Murdoch, of course, is a genius at it.

In my day, we called that 'editing'

hemlock666
08-12-2009, 02:30 PM
OK its editing. Papers never present stories in a manner that would effect sales positively. They never lie, as we can see by the numerous high profile libel cases through the years in almost every country that didn't actually happen. Spin, hacks, gutter press etc etc and such terms dont exist either and the tabliods never lie.
Back in your day that would have been called sarcasm.

pudgee
08-12-2009, 02:32 PM
OK its editing. Papers never present stories in a manner that would effect sales positively. They never lie, as we can see by the numerous high profile libel cases through the years in almost every country that didn't actually happen. Spin, hacks, gutter press etc etc and such terms dont exist either and the tabliods never lie.
Back in your day that would have been called sarcasm.

No. We would have called that 'extremely heavy handed to the point of leaden sarcasm'

hemlock666
08-12-2009, 02:33 PM
Must be these new fangled keyboards

10PennySweets
08-12-2009, 09:11 PM
Imagine Israel not reporting on political issues. Murdering and torturing those people whose land they are occupying and believingtheir own right to the place. Warped and brainwashed.

Professor Piehead
08-12-2009, 09:16 PM
Just how far up his ass is Mr Martin? Who the fuck does he think he is? Bono.

starchaser
08-12-2009, 11:04 PM
Funny no mention of it on Irish news:confused:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11289 4&sectionid=351020202

Israeli authorities deny Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheal Martin permission to visit the impoverished coastal sliver of Gaza which has long been under an Israeli siege.

Speaking at the Oireachtas Committee on European Affairs on Friday, Martin said no substantive reason had been given for the refusal.

"I just wanted to go in myself and see Gaza," he said according to the Irish Times newspaper.

Similar requests from other European countries had also been turned down.

The Irish Foreign Minister meanwhile described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as 'completely unacceptable.'

"If progress is not realized quickly, then the international community as a whole may need to reconsider what further pressure it can bring in favor of achieving a negotiated, two-state settlement," Martin told the committee.

Israel has imposed a crippling siege on the Gaza Strip since.

The Israeli army also launched a massive military offensive, known as 'Operation Cast Lead' against the coastal sliver in December 2008 and January 2009. More than 1,400 Palestinians were killed during the three-week offensive, which inflicted $ 1.6 billion of damage to the Gazan economy.

“I am appalled by the indiscriminate attacks by Israeli forces which have resulted in so many civilian fatalities. The death and suffering, as well as the humanitarian deprivation, now being inflicted on the people of Gaza as a result of the continuation of the Israeli Operation Cast Lead cannot be justified in any way and must now be brought to an immediate end," Martin stated.

Martin also called on Tel Aviv to provide further clear evidence it was 'serious about engaging in peace negotiations' rather than being more preoccupied with 'simply managing what could well escalate into a situation of incipient conflict.'

to be expected. i've been following what that moron has been saying about Israel.
and its the usual braindead UN supported bollocks.

good on them.

i wonder if Moron Martin realises that Intel has a rather big research site near Tel Aviv. as do Microsoft... as do Google. as do... < insert tech company that the IDA has wooed to Ireland here... >

as i said - moron.

Professor Piehead
08-12-2009, 11:09 PM
to be expected. i've been following what that moron has been saying about Israel.
and its the usual braindead UN supported bollocks.

good on them.

i wonder if Moron Martin realises that Intel has a rather big research site near Tel Aviv. as do Microsoft... as do Google. as do... < insert tech company that the IDA has wooed to Ireland here... >

as i said - moron.

I've met him.

I asked him for his autograph, for the craic.


He was ecstatic.

starchaser
08-12-2009, 11:09 PM
Martin also called on Tel Aviv to provide further clear evidence it was 'serious about engaging in peace negotiations' rather than being more preoccupied with 'simply managing what could well escalate into a situation of incipient conflict.'

so Moron Martin has nothing to say about Hamas?

ah sure, being a good Catholic with a Nazi as head of his church its always a good time to bash the Jooos..

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1132487.html

"Hamas throwing Fatah member off roof in Gaza
This video was obtained by the Palestine Press Agency and it shows the death of Mohammed Sweirki, a Fatah officer, by being thrown off the top of a 15-story building in Gaza."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c67_118888740 7

starchaser
08-12-2009, 11:10 PM
I've met him.

I asked him for his autograph, for the craic.


He was extatic.

dear World.

i apologise for my city.

( jaysus.. i'm getting all Copenhagen there like.. )

Professor Piehead
08-12-2009, 11:14 PM
so Moron Martin has nothing to say about Hamas?

ah sure, being a good Catholic with a Nazi as head of his church its always a good time to bash the Jooos..

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1132487.html

"Hamas throwing Fatah member off roof in Gaza
This video was obtained by the Palestine Press Agency and it shows the death of Mohammed Sweirki, a Fatah officer, by being thrown off the top of a 15-story building in Gaza."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c67_118888740 7

Not many people do. They just keep seding them money to buy weapons.