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blackforest
03-12-2009, 01:19 AM
What a luxury it must be to be able to afford and be amenable to two unpaid weeks off in the year. It bespeaks a forktongue of dissipation and tardiness, unbeknownst to the hard pressed domain of the private sector. Again a major FF FAIL!!

diar2me
03-12-2009, 09:29 AM
What a luxury it must be to be able to afford and be amenable to two unpaid weeks off in the year. It bespeaks a forktongue of dissipation and tardiness, unbeknownst to the hard pressed domain of the private sector. Again a major FF FAIL!!

Another thing is they musn't be as busy or understaffed as they are making out all along either. We are hearing sob stories for years of understaffing in frontline services, however, now when it suits them they can all afford to work 12 days less a year? I'm confused :confused:

davey
03-12-2009, 11:28 AM
Another thing is they musn't be as busy or understaffed as they are making out all along either. We are hearing sob stories for years of understaffing in frontline services, however, now when it suits them they can all afford to work 12 days less a year? I'm confused :confused:

Morning old pal.... you seem to be confused a lot lately

blackforest
03-12-2009, 11:44 AM
Another thing is they musn't be as busy or understaffed as they are making out all along either. We are hearing sob stories for years of understaffing in frontline services, however, now when it suits them they can all afford to work 12 days less a year? I'm confused :confused:
It doesn't make sense at all, it is a cop out by FF to placate the union fatcats and their bullyboy tactics, like you said the general opinion was that frontline services were being pushed to the limit, surely two weeks off will be detrimental to services and will possibly be supplemented by others doing overtime, therefore defeating the "moneysaving" scheme. It's another ruse by FF to blindside the public and pander to their union buddies.

BangorFeen
03-12-2009, 12:50 PM
It doesn't make sense at all, it is a cop out by FF to placate the union fatcats and their bullyboy tactics, like you said the general opinion was that frontline services were being pushed to the limit, surely two weeks off will be detrimental to services and will possibly be supplemented by others doing overtime, therefore defeating the "moneysaving" scheme. It's another ruse by FF to blindside the public and pander to their union buddies.
Which is why many frontline staff aren't any more enamoured of the idea than Joe Public. Trouble is, we don't like pay cuts either.

Frankly, I don't have the time to take my standard leave allocation, never mind a further 12-14 days on top of that. I had to get permission to carry days from last year because we were up the walls doing a report for HIQA. I could take my Christmas holidays now if I wanted but then my current project would be up in a heap.

pudgee
03-12-2009, 01:27 PM
"Coshered"?

BangorFeen
03-12-2009, 01:42 PM
"Coshered"?
*Pssst, Pudgee*

*Pudgee!!!*

*He knows that the Jews are in control of the public sector! Call Mossad now!!!!*

pudgee
03-12-2009, 02:15 PM
*Pssst, Pudgee*

*Pudgee!!!*

*He knows that the Jews are in control of the public sector! Call Mossad now!!!!*

I've got Zi-ops onto it.

IMHO
03-12-2009, 04:08 PM
Check this out about the public sector....

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ask-the-IMF-to-run-Ireland/189906792335

rebelgirl83
03-12-2009, 08:15 PM
The fact is there is absolutely nothing that the public sector can do to appease the general public.

The majority of public servants can not afford 12 days unpaid leave. It equates to roughly a 5% pay cut. It has come as an absolute bolt out of the blue to all of us, there was absolutely no indication at union meetings that our representatives were going to put this to the government. It makes little sense when it's properly examined and for me as a primary school teacher, it's completely unworkable so I await with baited breath to see how exactly this will work if it is accepted.

langerdan69
04-12-2009, 10:13 AM
Public servant here, not ashamed to say so, not unionised either. I used to work in manufacturing before this.

The unpaid leave thing is a load of shite. It won't solve the problems that exist and simply create more.

My place will grind to a halt if this goes through. I can barely take the leave that I have at the moment with the volume of work that we have. Don't get me wrong, it's great to be busy and I'm happy to have a job.

the simplistic public sector bashing here is not fair, true there are plenty of lazy, useless bastards out there but come into my place and you'll see that we all work our arses off in extremely trying conditions and our throughput of work would put comparable organisations in other countries and I'd imagine in other parts of the public service to shame.

I work hard for my money, my colleagues do too, I'm prepared to take a pay cut again but would just wish that the government got on with it and stopped pretending to be the union's bitches.

blackforest
04-12-2009, 11:19 PM
I've got Zi-ops onto it.

I think ye are getting confused with the word "kosher".

Now You're Hurling
07-12-2009, 03:55 PM
I think ye are getting confused with the word "kosher".

And I think you're getting confused with the word "cosseted"

poulgorm
07-12-2009, 06:54 PM
Which is why many frontline staff aren't any more enamoured of the idea than Joe Public. Trouble is, we don't like pay cuts either.

Frankly, I don't have the time to take my standard leave allocation, never mind a further 12-14 days on top of that. I had to get permission to carry days from last year because we were up the walls doing a report for HIQA. I could take my Christmas holidays now if I wanted but then my current project would be up in a heap.

So BangorFeen is busy. Now, what about the other 300,000...

I heard that there are some 100 staff in Cork County Council earning over €100,00 per annum.

As Mick Lyons would say, Jesus wept.