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MEP Griffin
22-11-2009, 01:10 AM
Fuck off home Pamela you lying piece of Nigerian scum. Moved on to her fourth or fifth solicitors now. She should have been deported long ago.

C Montgomery Bones
22-11-2009, 04:46 AM
Get the lying bitch out.
How much money is this costing us???

rom
22-11-2009, 09:59 AM
bet she'll get her xmass dole

Gnasher
22-11-2009, 07:36 PM
Nothing wrong with the poor woman. I know her well and how desperate she is to stay in Ireland.

Her children are Irish anyhow. I think its great she has been allowed to stay in this country and I hope and pray that the courts let her stay.

The fact that's some of the documents were forged is entirely understandable when it emerged that Pamela's husband Tony, was unable to access the genuine documents to support the asylum case. I believe that many fathers would do what Tony did if they felt they had no other option. My concern has always been for the safety of the girls and for Pamela in Nigeria and we continue to have those concerns. Pamela can be assured that we will stick by her until some form of protection is provided by the Irish state.

I am an active member of http://letthemstay.org/, and I urge to to visit our site and learn about this poor womans plight.

Murdock
24-11-2009, 04:07 PM
Fuck off home Pamela you lying piece of Nigerian scum. Moved on to her fourth or fifth solicitors now. She should have been deported long ago.

If we could deport racist Irish knuckledraggers like you instead (preferably to Afghanistan), the country would be far better off.

the conductor
24-11-2009, 04:30 PM
Let her stay... her Kids are as Irish as the rest of us born here... Racist fuckers on here givin Cork a bad name!!

Matlock
24-11-2009, 04:31 PM
Fuck off home Pamela you lying piece of Nigerian scum. Moved on to her fourth or fifth solicitors now. She should have been deported long ago.

Lies.

Ageless (H)
24-11-2009, 04:33 PM
Let her stay... her Kids are as Irish as the rest of us born here... Racist fuckers on here givin Cork a bad name!!

Well said and I second that

longbigandjuicy
24-11-2009, 04:35 PM
Well said and I second that

x3

MEP Griffin
24-11-2009, 11:01 PM
I'm racist because I believe someone who is lying about the mutilation of her child so she can stay in this country to scrounge should be sent home? Can't say anything about a foreigner now without beong called racist.

Seems like I'm the only one in this thread with any morals.

babybliss
24-11-2009, 11:03 PM
I'm racist because I believe someone who is lying about the mutilation of her child so she can stay in this country to scrounge should be sent home? Can't say anything about a foreigner now without beong called racist.

Seems like I'm the only one in this thread with any morals.

:rolleyes:

MEP Griffin
24-11-2009, 11:06 PM
:rolleyes:

:puppydog:

babybliss
24-11-2009, 11:29 PM
:puppydog:

:???:

thread_killer
25-11-2009, 11:52 AM
Let her stay... her Kids are as Irish as the rest of us born here... Racist fuckers on here givin Cork a bad name!!

No. As Irish as the rest of us born here would be if we had a Nigerian mother and father.

It will be a whole new flavour if Irish.

Matlock
25-11-2009, 12:05 PM
I'm racist because I believe someone who is lying about the mutilation of her child so she can stay in this country to scrounge should be sent home? Can't say anything about a foreigner now without beong called racist.

Seems like I'm the only one in this thread with any morals.

It is our state that is stopping her from working.

You are just assuming that she will claim social welfare if she is allowed to remain here.

kh1152
25-11-2009, 01:26 PM
Yes there are some risks living in Nigeria. However the Irish state can not be expected to take in every one who says they are from a risky area of the world.

I can understand why human rights activists & womens rights activists support her case. And I'm certainly not a fan of mutilating little girls. However, we can not put our arms around every female in the 28 different african countries where it happens.

Politics is the art of the possible. Saving this family from risk may make us feel good. But that is about all it will achieve.

Mossybanks
25-11-2009, 02:35 PM
If we could deport racist Irish knuckledraggers like you instead (preferably to Afghanistan), the country would be far better off.

Contradicting yourself there Murdock. Why bring nationality into an anti-racist post?

And what is wrong with Afghanistan?

Murdock
25-11-2009, 02:39 PM
Contradicting yourself there Murdock. Why bring nationality into an anti-racist post?

And what is wrong with Afghanistan?

Are you on drugs?

Quite a lot actually. Don't you read the news?

Mossybanks
25-11-2009, 02:42 PM
Are you on drugs?

Quite a lot actually. Don't you read the news?

OK.

"The Nigerian knuckledragger should be deported."

Racist? Yes

"The Irish knuckledragger should be deported."

Racist?

Well?

Mossybanks
25-11-2009, 02:44 PM
It is our state that is stopping her from working.

You are just assuming that she will claim social welfare if she is allowed to remain here.

What is stopping the 850 solicitors currently unemployed from working?

Murdock
25-11-2009, 02:49 PM
OK.

"The Nigerian knuckledragger should be deported."

Racist? Yes

"The Irish knuckledragger should be deported."

Racist?

Well?

*yawn*
Yes, that's right, I'm racist against Irish people. I'm the racist and not the guy who calls himself after a neo-nazi.

Mossybanks
25-11-2009, 06:30 PM
*yawn*
Yes, that's right, I'm racist against Irish people. I'm the racist and not the guy who calls himself after a neo-nazi.

Think before you type......

Murdock
26-11-2009, 01:58 PM
Think before you type......

You're better than this.




















Oh, wait.... you're not actually.

Mossybanks
26-11-2009, 02:59 PM
You're better than this

I suppose I am:


Yes, that's right, I'm racist against Irish people.


:lol:

the conductor
26-11-2009, 04:22 PM
No. As Irish as the rest of us born here would be if we had a Nigerian mother and father.

It will be a whole new flavour if Irish.

Ah shur we're all some flavour of something... but Irish is Irish is Irish, and being born here like the rest of us entitles them kids to be Irish...

C Montgomery Bones
26-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Nothing wrong with the poor woman. I know her well and how desperate she is to stay in Ireland.

Her children are Irish anyhow. I think its great she has been allowed to stay in this country and I hope and pray that the courts let her stay.

The fact that's some of the documents were forged is entirely understandable when it emerged that Pamela's husband Tony, was unable to access the genuine documents to support the asylum case. I believe that many fathers would do what Tony did if they felt they had no other option. My concern has always been for the safety of the girls and for Pamela in Nigeria and we continue to have those concerns. Pamela can be assured that we will stick by her until some form of protection is provided by the Irish state.

I am an active member of http://letthemstay.org/, and I urge to to visit our site and learn about this poor womans plight.

If we could deport racist Irish knuckledraggers like you instead (preferably to Afghanistan), the country would be far better off.

Let her stay... her Kids are as Irish as the rest of us born here... Racist fuckers on here givin Cork a bad name!!

Lies.

Well said and I second that

x3


Get the lying bitch out. A parasite leaching off our welfare system is all she is.
What is so bad in nigeria that she needs asylum in the ofrst place????

madcyril
04-12-2009, 03:37 PM
get her out!

the last thing this country needs is a bad liar.

we need good ones ... so we can elect them to power.

eire_sai
17-12-2009, 10:05 AM
Some good news on this front. Lets hope that this bitch is on the next flight.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/group-of-46-asylum-seekers-deported-to-nigeria-1978742.html

kh1152
11-02-2010, 03:36 PM
More news on this from the Supreme Court today.

A second set of documents provided by her are also said to be fakes.........

"The case has now been put back for another three weeks, after more legal issues were raised by the five Judges of the Court."

5 years this has been going on! How much has this cost the country?




Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/second-set-of-fake-documents-in-deportation-case-445771.html#ixzz0fEp 6o4k8

Langer Dan
11-02-2010, 03:38 PM
Jokeshop.

She should be deported immediately.

Jinky67
11-02-2010, 07:57 PM
Up to the end of 2009, it is estimated to have cost in excess of €1.5m. Doctors from Ireland had to travel to Nigeria to meet her own doctors to check out her children's medical history. You couldn't make it up.

I was made redundant a few months ago after 24 years of continuous employment.

The welfare told me I'll be means-tested soon to see if I'll still be eligible for my €196 a week (to pay mortgage and support child), despite my numerous attempts to find work. It's a great country.

kh1152
11-02-2010, 09:29 PM
She is a great money spinner for the legal folk.....5 years eh....

babybliss
11-02-2010, 09:42 PM
Jokeshop.

Matlock
12-02-2010, 12:49 AM
She is a great money spinner for the legal folk.....5 years eh....

She isnt entitled to legal aid so her legal team are working pro bono afaik.

kh1152
12-02-2010, 01:23 AM
She isnt entitled to legal aid so her legal team are working pro bono afaik.

And if they win then "ching ching" to the rest of the legal professing.. crime pays eh?

Matlock
12-02-2010, 10:54 AM
And if they win then "ching ching" to the rest of the legal professing.. crime pays eh?

How exactly?

Or was that just a random "I dont care about the facts of the matter, i just want to insult someone" post :rolleyes:

hiawatha
12-02-2010, 11:32 AM
How exactly?

Or was that just a random "I dont care about the facts of the matter, i just want to insult someone" post :rolleyes:

That's how PROC works.

kh1152
12-02-2010, 05:28 PM
How exactly?

Or was that just a random "I dont care about the facts of the matter, i just want to insult someone" post :rolleyes:

Ah now mattie......

So you saying that her legal team are putting in the hours, even though she has twice been found with fake documents, because of some moral responsibility?

Anyway she can't win, every female from Africa would be here claiming refugee status.......

Langer Dan
12-02-2010, 05:31 PM
It's an absolute mockery.
She is a scumbag who has repeatedly committed fraud in her bogus attempt to stay in the country.

The taxpayer has seen enough money wasted on this schyster,
deport her immediately.

livedadream
12-02-2010, 09:21 PM
heres a thought all the lads here why dont we feck ye off to Nigeria with ur bits hangin out and have them cut ye open sew ye up and chop the fun bits of ye off and see how long it is before you leg it back to Ireland eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutti ng

kh1152
12-02-2010, 10:13 PM
heres a thought all the lads here why dont we feck ye off to Nigeria with ur bits hangin out and have them cut ye open sew ye up and chop the fun bits of ye off and see how long it is before you leg it back to Ireland eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutti ng

So we take in every woman in Half of Africa? How about the middle east too?

In fact let's be the haven of half the world.

And when you are paying 90% tax then extend the invitation to the far east!

Yes it isn't nice. Yes it would not be acceptable here. But we can't even get old folk off trollies or bring the forgotten Irish back home, or compensate the victims of the magdelane laundries. How can we save the world if we can't even save our own?

I respect your ideals but the world is a harsh place.

babybliss
13-02-2010, 01:02 AM
THE DEPORTATION of a Nigerian mother and her three children – one of them who is seriously ill – has been suspended pending a review of their case.
Ayodola Adekunle (5) has been in Ireland with her mother Eniola and two siblings for two years. She was diagnosed with sickle-cell anaemia and has been receiving treatment at Our Lady’s Children’s Hospital.
A Department of Justice spokeswoman confirmed yesterday the case was being reviewed “following legal intervention” by the family’s solicitor.
She stressed the review referred to this specific case only and was not an indication of a new stance by the department on asylum cases involving sickle-cell disease.
It is understood Ms Adekunle, who is currently living at the Balseskin reception centre in north Dublin, has been told to report to the city-centre offices of the Garda National Immigration Bureau as usual next Wednesday to ‘‘sign on’’.
Rosanna Flynn of the Residents Against Racism organisation said Ms Adekunle was “massively relieved, though still worried because this is not a permanent, definite reprieve”.
Dr Karina McMahon, the doctor treating Ayodola, said the child’s life would be seriously impaired if she returned to Nigeria.
“We know that in Africa, 50 per cent of children with sickle-cell anaemia do not live to see their fifth birthday. She should be here on a decent sickle-cell programme,” she said
Sufferers are at risk of a range of complications and life expectancy is impaired.

eire_sai
13-02-2010, 10:44 AM
After reading the rest of this thread I must add this.

I just cant believe that someone you claims to be a solicitor by profession
would be so naive about the real world. Real head in the sand stuff.

livedadream
13-02-2010, 12:09 PM
So we take in every woman in Half of Africa? How about the middle east too?

In fact let's be the haven of half the world.

And when you are paying 90% tax then extend the invitation to the far east!

Yes it isn't nice. Yes it would not be acceptable here. But we can't even get old folk off trollies or bring the forgotten Irish back home, or compensate the victims of the magdelane laundries. How can we save the world if we can't even save our own?

I respect your ideals but the world is a harsh place.

so your theory is fuck the rest of the world i'm Irish so i'm only gonna help Irish people. I see where your coming from with the trolleys and stuff but i just don't think that we should be blind to other countries, yes charity begins at home but we cant ignore the rest of the world because our government has cocked up repeatably...

Matlock
13-02-2010, 06:01 PM
After reading the rest of this thread I must add this.

I just cant believe that someone you claims to be a solicitor by profession
would be so naive about the real world. Real head in the sand stuff.

Really?

I just had a look at my posts in this thread there. Everything i have posted here is factually correct.

If you dont like my opinion, thats fine. There really is no need to insult me though.

eire_sai
14-02-2010, 11:24 AM
Really?

I just had a look at my posts in this thread there. Everything i have posted here is factually correct.

If you dont like my opinion, thats fine. There really is no need to insult me though.

I apologize if you feel insulted. I don't mean to cause any offense.

Professor Piehead
14-02-2010, 11:58 AM
Really?

I just had a look at my posts in this thread there. Everything i have posted here is factually correct.

If you dont like my opinion, thats fine. There really is no need to insult me though.

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/odds_and_oddities/assets/extreme_ironing_boar d.jpg

kh1152
14-02-2010, 04:45 PM
so your theory is fuck the rest of the world i'm Irish so i'm only gonna help Irish people. I see where your coming from with the trolleys and stuff but i just don't think that we should be blind to other countries, yes charity begins at home but we cant ignore the rest of the world because our government has cocked up repeatably...

What I said is based on what we, as a nation, can do and what we can't.

FGM is not something i agree with, however neither can I take in the millions of women that it will happen to. Why, not because they are not Irish, it is because we cannot afford it from a Finance point of view or from a military point of view.

And yes I said military, although it will never come to that as the lack of finance will scupper the idea.

But if we decided that any female at risk of FGM can relocate here how long do you think it would take the governments of Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia etc to wonder where all their women have gone?

Do you think they'll rectify their ways and send the ladies a nice "please come back we're sorry" note and bouquet with inter-flora?

I applaud your values, but that ain't going to change the (third) world.

Langer Dan
14-02-2010, 07:34 PM
so your theory is fuck the rest of the world i'm Irish so i'm only gonna help Irish people. I see where your coming from with the trolleys and stuff but i just don't think that we should be blind to other countries, yes charity begins at home but we cant ignore the rest of the world because our government has cocked up repeatably...

Cry me a river.
She has no entitlement to be in the country.

She has repeatedly and deliberately commited fraud in an illegal attempt to remain in the country all the while tying up the courts with this ridiculous charade, all at the taxpayer's expense.

Had an Irish citizen pulled a similar stunt in the U.S. then they'd be rightly deported.

C Montgomery Bones
15-02-2010, 09:06 AM
heres a thought all the lads here why dont we feck ye off to Nigeria with ur bits hangin out and have them cut ye open sew ye up and chop the fun bits of ye off and see how long it is before you leg it back to Ireland eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutti ng

Why dont nigeria make it illegal to carry out these practices. That would solve the problem.
And why should we give a shit about some nigerains? Theres loads of people in the world suffering, why should they be given asylum but others ignored.

Rather than giving asylum we should be spending the money on trying to improve the areas these people come from.

Also nigeria has huge oil reserves and should be more than capable than looking after all its citizens rather than dumping them on us.

Nobody from nigeria should be able to claim asylum in Ireland as there are no direct links (air or sea) between the 2 countries. These people are supposed to claim asylum in the first country they land in, usually the uk. Alot of them ignore this and come to ireland where we are seen as a soft touch.

goosed
15-02-2010, 12:13 PM
forget the deportation just shoot them - cheaper and quicker

kh1152
19-04-2010, 10:13 AM
Here we go again!

Today, before 5 judges in the Irish supreme court she will say that she has new documents, again.

How much longer can this go on?

o_2_b_a_rebel
19-04-2010, 11:00 AM
Here we go again!

Today, before 5 judges in the Irish supreme court she will say that she has new documents, again.

How much longer can this go on?

She is doing the cause of refugees in this country no favours so i hope that the groups backing her claims understand where they are going with this one.
Legislation must be changed to prevent us going to the supreme court every time we want to carry out a deportation order.
In Australia you are put on the next plane and made pay for the flight to avoid going into a refugee centre/prison.

babybliss
19-04-2010, 05:10 PM
Judgment reserved on Pamela Izevbekhai appeal

Monday, 19 April 2010 15:52
The Supreme Court has reserved judgment on whether or not Pamela Izevbekhai will be allowed to proceed to a final appeal against her deportation.
The Sligo based Nigerian woman was due to have her appeal heard in February last but the Supreme Court raised legal issues arising from a separate High Court judgment last year.
The judgment concerns a person's right to apply for subsidiary protection which gives the Minister for Justice discretion to allow someone remain in the state on humanitarian grounds.
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In court today lawyers for Ms Izevbekhai argued that despite the fact that the regulation establishing subsidiary protection came into force after her deportation order had been made, she was still entitled to apply.
In 2008 her application to have her case considered was refused. She later lost a High Court challenge to this decision.
Before her full appeal can begin in the Supreme Court, a judgment must be made on the issue of her eligibility to apply for subsidiary protection.
If the court finds against her on this issue, it will mark the end of a long running legal battle.
Ms Izevebekhai claims her two daughters will be subjected to genital mutilation if returned to Nigeria.
She claims her first born died in 1994 as a result of female genital mutilation.
However, the State says her claims were based on forged documents and that she did not have a daughter in 1994.
Ms Izevbekhai says she had new documents to support her claim and was not aware that the original documents were forgeries.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0419/izevbekhaip.html

Langer Dan
19-04-2010, 05:14 PM
Imaginary dead family members?

She's the new Stephen Ireland

Professor Piehead
20-04-2010, 01:15 AM
This is turning into another nice earner for the legal industry.

This liar should have been deported ages ago.

Langer Dan
20-04-2010, 01:23 AM
Yup, farcical state of affairs really.

This woman is taking abusing the system to staggering new lows.

Joe_Duffy
20-06-2011, 02:30 PM
http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2011/869.html

her application failed... is she still here?

optimus
20-06-2011, 09:54 PM
all she has to do is give birth here and she and her kids can stay ...

Professor Piehead
22-06-2011, 01:33 AM
It's political correctness gone mad.

kh1152
27-06-2011, 02:21 PM
Finally.....

"Nigerian asylum seeker Pamela Izevbekhai now faces deportation after the European Court of Human Rights rejected her appeal.

The Sligo-based mother-of-two has been fighting deportation for the past six years because of her fears that her daughters, Naomi (10) and Jemima (9), would be subjected to female genital mutilation if they return to Nigeria.


She had taken her case to the European court, complaining her rights has been been violated.


Ms Izevbekhai's case has been one of the most high-profile and controversial asylum cases. Her deportation was originally ordered in September 2005 but was the subject of several legal challenges, culminating in a decision by the Supreme Court to reject her claims last July.


She had claimed her first-born daughter had died in Nigerian in 1994 as a result of female genital mutilation. However, it was later revealed that her claims were based on forged documents."

- INDEPENDENT.IE REPORTERS

Bennyton
27-06-2011, 02:50 PM
Ever think that the person who kicked up a fuss and got this one to court caused more damage to the taxpayer than she herself ever would have?

Our courts/legal system is seriously flawed if tribunials can cost the state billions when the cases themselves can be over a finance minister without a bank account who took a few thousand quid... he didn't even get fucking convicted of anything!

We need to streamline this stuff, but to be fair, as a country with an aging population, her sprogs might go to school, and then hopefully to college, and then to Thailand to find themselves, and then, HOPEFULLY come back here and work for 30 years, paying taxes and contributing to society.

Or maybe we should start taking loads of Asians into our folds to sort out the shit math results in the Leaving Cert.

Our primary schools are full of kids with ADD or ADHD or some form of authism,
its also a growing problem, we'd do better to concentrate on sorting something like that out so they can work and not fuck up the public finances, take our pensions and fuck em into banks.

Throwing five little brown people out of the country won't change anything, if anything, the precident it sets is that you have a template of how to stretch the case out for 5 years. Its nothing more than a Racist DSTRACTION from long term problems that we seem to be too lazy/ thick/ afraid to face.

Matlock
27-06-2011, 03:30 PM
Ever think that the person who kicked up a fuss and got this one to court caused more damage to the taxpayer than she herself ever would have?

Our courts/legal system is seriously flawed if tribunials can cost the state billions when the cases themselves can be over a finance minister without a bank account who took a few thousand quid... he didn't even get fucking convicted of anything!
We need to streamline this stuff, but to be fair, as a country with an aging population, her sprogs might go to school, and then hopefully to college, and then to Thailand to find themselves, and then, HOPEFULLY come back here and work for 30 years, paying taxes and contributing to society.

Or maybe we should start taking loads of Asians into our folds to sort out the shit math results in the Leaving Cert.

Our primary schools are full of kids with ADD or ADHD or some form of authism,
its also a growing problem, we'd do better to concentrate on sorting something like that out so they can work and not fuck up the public finances, take our pensions and fuck em into banks.

Throwing five little brown people out of the country won't change anything, if anything, the precident it sets is that you have a template of how to stretch the case out for 5 years. Its nothing more than a Racist DSTRACTION from long term problems that we seem to be too lazy/ thick/ afraid to face.

Tribunals dont convict people.

kh1152
27-06-2011, 03:40 PM
Talk radio will have all the "do-gooder, liberal, "former" art students" on later I suppose with their sentimentalist nonsense...

"Well I think she has been here now for so long that maybe she should be allowed to stay.. and will someone please think of the children......."

If we have learned anything from this farce it's that we should have a bus from the courthouse directly to the airport.

Joe_Duffy
27-06-2011, 04:48 PM
she'll make a scene.

last ditch effort, screaming at the airport gates etc etc... media abound.

hopefully not.

Bennyton
27-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Tribunals dont convict people.

Ah, rite, your the expert, but still, why have them?

Why not bring those people straight to court like everyone else?

optimus
27-06-2011, 05:05 PM
"Pamela Izevbekha is once again facing deportation, after the Court found she had enjoyed a privileged social and financial status in Nigeria."
the damage she has done to genuine asylum seekers is unbelieveable. but she wont be deported .. she has 1 more trick up her sleeve

Joe_Duffy
27-06-2011, 05:27 PM
A Nigerian woman who has fought a 6-year legal battle to stay in Ireland has lost an appeal at the European Court of Human Rights.

Pamela Izevbekhai is once again facing deportation after the Court found she had enjoyed a privileged social and financial status in Nigeria.

Miss Izevbekha should have been deported from Ireland in 2005 but she lodged an appeal against the order arguing her two daughters would be subjected to female genital mutilation if returned to Nigeria.

But over the course of a lengthy High Court and Supreme Court battle medical documents supporting the claim were found to be fake.

She brought the case to the European Court of Human Rights but the Court has now found she and her husband could protect their children in Nigeria owning a 5-bedroom villa with the use of 3 cars.

The Court found her husband has considerable financial resources and could relocate the family to parts of Nigeria where female mutilation is less common.

poor poor pammy

gingin
27-06-2011, 05:32 PM
"Pamela Izevbekha is once again facing deportation, after the Court found she had enjoyed a privileged social and financial status in Nigeria."
the damage she has done to genuine asylum seekers is unbelieveable. but she wont be deported .. she has 1 more trick up her sleeve



baby on the way..??

Walter Sobchak
27-06-2011, 05:35 PM
Ever think that the person who kicked up a fuss and got this one to court caused more damage to the taxpayer than she herself ever would have?

Our courts/legal system is seriously flawed if tribunials can cost the state billions when the cases themselves can be over a finance minister without a bank account who took a few thousand quid... he didn't even get fucking convicted of anything!

We need to streamline this stuff, but to be fair, as a country with an aging population, her sprogs might go to school, and then hopefully to college, and then to Thailand to find themselves, and then, HOPEFULLY come back here and work for 30 years, paying taxes and contributing to society.

Or maybe we should start taking loads of Asians into our folds to sort out the shit math results in the Leaving Cert.

Our primary schools are full of kids with ADD or ADHD or some form of authism,
its also a growing problem, we'd do better to concentrate on sorting something like that out so they can work and not fuck up the public finances, take our pensions and fuck em into banks.

Throwing five little brown people out of the country won't change anything, if anything, the precident it sets is that you have a template of how to stretch the case out for 5 years. Its nothing more than a Racist DSTRACTION from long term problems that we seem to be too lazy/ thick/ afraid to face.

Stunning post.


In the sense that there is neither a coherent point or anything resembling a thought out argument in relation to what is being discussed.

Grr, down with 'tribunials'

Joe_Duffy
27-06-2011, 05:40 PM
Stunning post.


In the sense that there is neither a coherent point or anything resembling a thought out argument in relation to what is being discussed.

Grr, down with 'tribunials'

you're nothing more than a Racist DSTRACTION

kh1152
27-06-2011, 07:34 PM
"Pamela Izevbekha is once again facing deportation, after the Court found she had enjoyed a privileged social and financial status in Nigeria."
the damage she has done to genuine asylum seekers is unbelieveable. but she wont be deported .. she has 1 more trick up her sleeve




What do you think that might be?

gaffer falls
27-06-2011, 08:22 PM
she has 1 more trick up her sleeve
What do you think that might be?
A panga

kh1152
27-06-2011, 08:44 PM
A panga

The fish???

optimus
27-06-2011, 08:49 PM
she wont be deported .. she'l either go on the run again or get pregnant ... if she isnt pregnant already.
i know the solicitors claim there working on her case for free but i doubt they'd fund a european challenge without help from the tax payers..

kh1152
27-06-2011, 09:48 PM
Pregnant doesn't count though afaik, the child has to be born here.

Peggy Mitchell
27-06-2011, 10:10 PM
Finally.....

"Nigerian asylum seeker Pamela Izevbekhai now faces deportation after the European Court of Human Rights rejected her appeal.

The Sligo-based mother-of-two has been fighting deportation for the past six years because of her fears that her daughters, Naomi (10) and Jemima (9), would be subjected to female genital mutilation if they return to Nigeria.


She had taken her case to the European court, complaining her rights has been been violated.


Ms Izevbekhai's case has been one of the most high-profile and controversial asylum cases. Her deportation was originally ordered in September 2005 but was the subject of several legal challenges, culminating in a decision by the Supreme Court to reject her claims last July.


She had claimed her first-born daughter had died in Nigerian in 1994 as a result of female genital mutilation. However, it was later revealed that her claims were based on forged documents."

- INDEPENDENT.IE REPORTERS

How long will the deportation take since the courts rejected her appeal?

kh1152
27-06-2011, 11:46 PM
How long will the deportation take since the courts rejected her appeal?

It depends.....

Her free legal team may plan an appeal to "Flash! Saviour of the Universe, Ultimate Court Altogether Like".

But she should have been on a plane by 6pm today if you ask me.

Joe_Duffy
28-06-2011, 12:36 AM
It depends.....

Her free legal team may plan an appeal to "Flash! Saviour of the Universe, Ultimate Court Altogether Like".

But she should have been on a plane by 6pm today if you ask me.

sick of that ad as well ... ahhaaaa

Bennyton
28-06-2011, 03:53 PM
Stunning post.


In the sense that there is neither a coherent point or anything resembling a thought out argument in relation to what is being discussed.

Grr, down with 'tribunials'


Yeah twas a shite post, I spose I jus meant that its a waste of time going after her to throw her out of the country, our courts are becoming so expensive that it costs us more to throw people out than to house them, Which makes the act pointless. Its like the angry drunk fella in a pub going "It was the principal of the thing", when it was the money, but he doesn't wanna seem cheap". The point of the case was to throw her out of the country and save a few bob, instead it'll cost us millions on the case alone.

Professor Piehead
29-06-2011, 02:05 AM
The legal industry has gained some extra coin.

This liar, will soon leave.

Result.

Matlock
29-06-2011, 10:57 AM
The legal industry has gained some extra coin.

This liar, will soon leave.

Result.

To the best of my knowledge all of her legal team worked pro bono.

You already knew this though, you just disreguard any facts that dont suit you...

optimus
29-06-2011, 11:12 AM
To the best of my knowledge all of her legal team worked pro bono.

You already knew this though, you just disreguard any facts that dont suit you...
"To the best of your knowledge" isnt fact though mattie
an ECHR challenge would set you back what 50k ???

seriously doubt any practice in the country could afford to shell that out especially when there gettin no publicity for it

CORKBHOY
29-06-2011, 01:45 PM
"Pamela Izevbekha is once again facing deportation, after the Court found she had enjoyed a privileged social and financial status in Nigeria."
the damage she has done to genuine asylum seekers is unbelieveable. but she wont be deported .. she has 1 more trick up her sleeve




she wont be deported .. she'l either go on the run again or get pregnant ... if she isnt pregnant already.
i know the solicitors claim there working on her case for free but i doubt they'd fund a european challenge without help from the tax payers..
Wouldn't call going on the run a trick, that would be a last ditch desperate temporary measure as she would surely be tracked down. As for getting pregnant, if that was all she needed to do in order to stay don't you think she'd of done that by now?

Matlock
29-06-2011, 02:04 PM
"To the best of your knowledge" isnt fact though mattie
an ECHR challenge would set you back what 50k ???

seriously doubt any practice in the country could afford to shell that out especially when there gettin no publicity for it

Well, it is a matter of public record whether or not she received legal aid. I believe she didnt.

If the lawyers didnt do it pro bono ( and i believe they did), then the state didnt pay them.

So the options are either the lawyers acted pro bono or she paid them herself. Nothing wrong with either of those options.

hans aus dtschl
29-06-2011, 02:57 PM
The state probably had to pay a legal team...

optimus
29-06-2011, 03:13 PM
Wouldn't call going on the run a trick, that would be a last ditch desperate temporary measure as she would surely be tracked down. As for getting pregnant, if that was all she needed to do in order to stay don't you think she'd of done that by now?
all she has to do is give birth to a child while here or in the north and she cant be deported ...

get pregnant go on the run for 9 months which could happen .. flitting between north and south even scotland on the ferry .. give birth here or up north and bang thanks to the good friday agreement.. irish child.... she gets to stay at the taxpayers expense

CORKBHOY
29-06-2011, 04:16 PM
all she has to do is give birth to a child while here or in the north and she cant be deported ...

get pregnant go on the run for 9 months which could happen .. flitting between north and south even scotland on the ferry .. give birth here or up north and bang thanks to the good friday agreement.. irish child.... she gets to stay at the taxpayers expense

Is it that easy?

You'd wonder why she didn't do this years ago.

optimus
29-06-2011, 05:03 PM
euro court of human rights ruled earlier this year that we couldnt deport parents of irish citizens if there u18... so it wasnt that easy in feb but its that easy now ....

optimus
29-06-2011, 05:21 PM
Pregnant doesn't count though afaik, the child has to be born here.

thats the next legal challenge .... with our right to life of the unborn child laws

is it deemed a citizen from the moment of conception. is there a risk to the life of the child by deporting her????

CORKBHOY
29-06-2011, 05:21 PM
euro court of human rights ruled earlier this year that we couldnt deport parents of irish citizens if there u18... so it wasnt that easy in feb but its that easy now ....

Wasn't aware of that. So if someone is 8 months pregnant and makes there way here, gives birth a few weeks later then they can stay here?

gingin
29-06-2011, 06:13 PM
whats the story with her husband? i read somewhere that he was in italy, that would be some achievement to concieve a child from there, it would trump anything the virgin mary ever did anyway.

optimus
29-06-2011, 07:06 PM
Wasn't aware of that. So if someone is 8 months pregnant and makes there way here, gives birth a few weeks later then they can stay here?
ya the child would be an irish citizen so therfore mammy and whoever gets put on the birthcert as the father get to stay and all other dependants ...

i know of one case at the mnute thats being dealt with
X is nigerian
y is ukranian
y is put down as the father of x's baby despite x and y both being married to and having kids with other people. both claim resindency as they are the parent of an irish citizen ... and claim residency on the part of the other families as they are dependants ... no one has ordered a paternity test to determine whether or not y is the father and as far as i know they'd need a court order which of course would be fought.

its no worse than the social welfare scams that are being pulled .. costing us the tax payer a fortune

optimus
29-06-2011, 07:07 PM
whats the story with her husband? i read somewhere that he was in italy, that would be some achievement to concieve a child from there, it would trump anything the virgin mary ever did anyway.
the husband doesnt need to father the child in order for her to stay here. any willing male could do that job for her.

liam2me
29-06-2011, 08:16 PM
The joys of left wing laws

Professor Piehead
29-06-2011, 10:43 PM
To the best of my knowledge all of her legal team worked pro bono.

You already knew this though, you just disreguard any facts that dont suit you...

'Industry', but inaccuracies are your forte.

Professor Piehead
29-06-2011, 10:46 PM
The joys of left wing laws

Right and wrong don't come into it Liam, the important thing is cash and something to talk about over the dinner party table.

Luongos exile
29-06-2011, 11:16 PM
Nothing wrong with the poor woman. I know her well and how desperate she is to stay in Ireland.

Her children are Irish anyhow. I think its great she has been allowed to stay in this country and I hope and pray that the courts let her stay.

The fact that's some of the documents were forged is entirely understandable when it emerged that Pamela's husband Tony, was unable to access the genuine documents to support the asylum case. I believe that many fathers would do what Tony did if they felt they had no other option. My concern has always been for the safety of the girls and for Pamela in Nigeria and we continue to have those concerns. Pamela can be assured that we will stick by her until some form of protection is provided by the Irish state.

I am an active member of http://letthemstay.org/, and I urge to to visit our site and learn about this poor womans plight.
Ya but the documents are illegally forged. You make this out to be a little thing

Joe_Duffy
30-06-2011, 12:22 AM
Well, it is a matter of public record whether or not she received legal aid. I believe she didnt.

If the lawyers didnt do it pro bono ( and i believe they did), then the state didnt pay them.

So the options are either the lawyers acted pro bono or she paid them herself. Nothing wrong with either of those options.

It has been reported it cost around 500k.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nigerian-mum-to-be-deported-after-eu-court-ruling-2807014.html

Matlock
30-06-2011, 12:26 AM
It has been reported it cost around 500k.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nigerian-mum-to-be-deported-after-eu-court-ruling-2807014.html

Article doesnt say who, if anyone, paid them.

It also doesnt state if those are her costs, or the state's costs, or both.

Matlock
30-06-2011, 12:29 AM
'Industry', but inaccuracies are your forte.

Man some lawyer must have got you good for you to have such a chip on your shoulder :lol!:

Joe_Duffy
30-06-2011, 12:37 AM
Article doesnt say who, if anyone, paid them.

It also doesnt state if those are her costs, or the state's costs, or both.

doesnt say either they did pro bono .. etc etc etc.

either way, she's rode the shit out of it.

Professor Piehead
30-06-2011, 12:55 AM
doesnt say either they did pro bono .. etc etc etc.

either way, she's rode the shit out of it.

Hence 'industry'.

A concept beyond most.

Joe_Duffy
30-06-2011, 03:00 AM
Hence 'industry'.

A concept beyond most.

not beyond me.

'Law' is there for one reason only, to protect those who purport it and collectively, gain financially.

If it was to prosecute those with ill gotten gains, surely most of irelands bankers would be behind bars now?

:???:

Hang_Sandwich
30-06-2011, 12:56 PM
no issue with her staying at all really, however ireland is hardly the first place to seek asylum on her trip to Europe.. it if really was asylum rather than economic migration then surely her entry point was spain?

Matlock
30-06-2011, 01:02 PM
doesnt say either they did pro bono .. etc etc etc.

either way, she's rode the shit out of it.

I know one of the firms of solicitors who acted for her and i know that they acted pro bono.

optimus
30-06-2011, 01:22 PM
no issue with her staying at all really, however ireland is hardly the first place to seek asylum on her trip to Europe.. it if really was asylum rather than economic migration then surely her entry point was spain?

you dont enter a country unless you walk into a public area of an airport.....
so the fact that she landed in another country is a mute point...

Matlock
30-06-2011, 01:24 PM
you dont enter a country unless you walk into a public area of an airport.....
so the fact that she landed in another country is a mute point...

moot.

strict66
30-06-2011, 02:14 PM
I know one of the firms of solicitors who acted for her and i know that they acted pro bono.

Oh ya and are the Judge and the state working pro bono on this case too or is the Irish tax payer picking up the bill. ?

Matlock
30-06-2011, 02:17 PM
Oh ya and are the Judge and the state working pro bono on this case too or is the Irish tax payer picking up the bill. ?

Neither the Judges or the chief state solicitors get paid on a case by case basis.

Stacky
30-06-2011, 02:18 PM
I heard that Alan Shatter has instructed her to start building a raft made from the mountains of legal documents she has accrued in these cases to transport her to Nigeria.

gingin
30-06-2011, 02:38 PM
I heard that Alan Shatter has instructed her to start building a raft made from the mountains of legal documents she has accrued in these cases to transport her to Nigeria.

good idea. any good counterfeiters should laminate the documents so at least her raft will be waterproof.

Joe_Duffy
30-06-2011, 10:51 PM
To the best of my knowledge all of her legal team worked pro bono.



Well, it is a matter of public record whether or not she received legal aid. I believe she didnt.

If the lawyers didnt do it pro bono ( and i believe they did), then the state didnt pay them.



I know one of the firms of solicitors who acted for her and i know that they acted pro bono.

What's next, you're part of the firm?

Matlock
30-06-2011, 11:13 PM
What's next, you're part of the firm?

Nope.

I just know someone who worked for a firm that acted for her.

Walter Sobchak
30-06-2011, 11:14 PM
Is this still going?

jd26
19-07-2011, 12:24 PM
She was deported this morning.

Joe_Duffy
19-07-2011, 12:28 PM
refreshing

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0719/izevbekhaip.html

kh1152
19-07-2011, 02:38 PM
How long before the "Bring Pamela Home!" campaign gets kicked off.......

Cork-loving Jackeen
19-07-2011, 02:39 PM
Buh-bye Pamela. Best of luck.

Stacky
19-07-2011, 02:54 PM
How long before the "Bring Pamela Home!" campaign gets kicked off.......

Yes the Nigerian campaign won that one.

Massive street party in Lagos today.

kh1152
19-07-2011, 03:23 PM
Yes the Nigerian campaign won that one.

Massive street party in Lagos today.

I was thinking of the "Bring Pamela Home to Sligo!" campaign......

Walter Sobchak
19-07-2011, 03:28 PM
How much money was wasted on this compulsive Liar?

Stacky
19-07-2011, 03:32 PM
I was thinking of the "Bring Pamela Home to Sligo!" campaign......

But she is from Nigeria.

In Africa.

Her home.

It is bad enough and embarassing to claim Obama as one of our own.

Cork-loving Jackeen
19-07-2011, 03:39 PM
How much money was wasted on this compulsive Liar?

Far too much .....

de mange
19-07-2011, 03:40 PM
It is bad enough and embarassing to claim Obama as one of our own.

but he speaks irish and he owns a hurley :confused:

Matlock
19-07-2011, 03:41 PM
how much money was wasted on this compulsive liar?

€43.79.

Walter Sobchak
19-07-2011, 03:43 PM
I very much doubt that.


The lengths to which her legal team went to in order to decieve the courts is the real story here.

Hopefully this sorry farce will the last case of its kind we see within this jursidiction.

kh1152
19-07-2011, 04:37 PM
But she is from Nigeria.

In Africa.

Her home.

It is bad enough and embarassing to claim Obama as one of our own.

I know that, you know that, but a lot of her fan club think that her kids, and possibly her, are "more Irish than the Irish themselves".

Stacky
19-07-2011, 04:44 PM
I know that, you know that, but a lot of her fan club think that her kids, and possibly her, are "more Irish than the Irish themselves".

To be truly Irish you have to be a ginger with freckles and have been bothered by a priest.

She is lucky really.

gozzy
19-07-2011, 05:28 PM
Shur those kids know nothing other than Ireland.

They are, for all intents and purposes, Irish.

Whatever about their mother, it's going to be hell for them back in Nigeria.

cornhole
19-07-2011, 05:39 PM
She might snake back into cork and down to the refugee centre where she will be given a crash course in taxi driving, worshipping the lord, renting out rooms in her social house and a little bit of car exporting, hallelujah and praise the lord :rolleyes:

POL
19-07-2011, 07:07 PM
about time

Michael P Splonk
19-07-2011, 08:18 PM
A good day for Ireland.

Walter Sobchak
19-07-2011, 08:20 PM
Not our problem.

kh1152
19-07-2011, 08:56 PM
Shur those kids know nothing other than Ireland.

They are, for all intents and purposes, Irish.

Whatever about their mother, it's going to be hell for them back in Nigeria.

That's the irony, if she was deported when she was supposed to, then the kids would have been 4 and 3. Preschoolers.

But now at 9 and 10 they are well in to primary school, so it is unfair on them.

Professor Piehead
20-07-2011, 01:43 AM
How much money was wasted on this compulsive Liar?

Hundreds of thousands, the legal industry win out yet again.

However, you may shed a tear for the nimby liberalistas, they lost big time today.

Niamhie
20-07-2011, 02:31 AM
at the end of the day, she put up one hell of a battle, proven to be a fraud. She's where she should be now. Pity it cost us so much.

gaffer falls
20-07-2011, 09:54 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/politics/files/2009/04/1224244010307_1.jpg
She was hot, just deport the men I say

Cork-loving Jackeen
20-07-2011, 10:23 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/politics/files/2009/04/1224244010307_1.jpg
she was hot, just deport the men i say

Really???? Crap hair.

Cork-loving Jackeen
20-07-2011, 10:25 AM
Total cost = more than 1 million euros in legal fees:-

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/euro1m-legal-bill-after-pamela-and-girls-finally-deported-2825871.html

gaffer falls
20-07-2011, 11:18 AM
No lawyers with their outrageous fees cost us 1 million

Matlock
20-07-2011, 11:45 AM
No lawyers with their outrageous fees cost us 1 million

:confused:

State costs are €370,000.

The rest of the costs are her own legal teams. They just wont be paid.

liam2me
20-07-2011, 12:31 PM
:confused:

State costs are €370,000.

The rest of the costs are her own legal teams. They just wont be paid.
€370,000 is enough wasted, don't you think?

Matlock
20-07-2011, 12:34 PM
€370,000 is enough wasted, don't you think?

It is a very different figure to one million, don't you think?

Joe_Duffy
20-07-2011, 05:09 PM
Shur those kids know nothing other than Ireland.

They are, for all intents and purposes, Irish.

Whatever about their mother, it's going to be hell for them back in Nigeria.

all that sun?

JP Stone
20-07-2011, 05:14 PM
She just proved a few things, tree huggers are fucking idiots who would believe anything and also the legal system, what a fucking joke and us fools paying for it.

She should have been picked up once she lost her first case by a few guys in black clothes and loaded into a private plane and fucked back into whatever jungle she crawled out of.
This country is too fucking soft on these type people.

de mange
20-07-2011, 05:17 PM
She should have been picked up once she lost her first case by a few guys in black clothes and loaded into a private plane and fucked back into whatever jungle she crawled out of.
This country is too fucking soft on these type people.

you sound like a smart lad :rolleyes:

Murdock
22-07-2011, 03:25 AM
Yeah, it'd make you proud to be Irish alright. Our justice system might not be able to put a single crooked politician, banker, or paedo-enabling bishop behind bars, but at least the guards are able to get two young girls out of their beds in the middle of the night and kick them out of the country they've lived in for most of their lives.
You'd want to be a special class of cunt to be taking glee from something like this.

Walter Sobchak
22-07-2011, 03:41 AM
The rule of law was enforced, eventually...

Its only in Ireland really though that such a farce could be allowed to be played out.

liam2me
22-07-2011, 10:57 AM
The rule of law was enforced, eventually...

Its only in Ireland really though that such a farce could be allowed to be played out.
I would imagine most have sympathy for the kids, but not for the mother

Murdock
22-07-2011, 10:10 PM
I would imagine most have sympathy for the kids, but not for the mother

Your posts in this thread are a bit ironic coming from an immigrant.
I'm sure many parents would do something similar if they lived in a third world country and wanted a better life for their kids (indeed, thousands of Irish people have done something similar down the years). It's not as if she was living it up when she was here. It must have been a pretty shitty existence - unable to work, living on a pittance in an asylum centre constantly worrying about being deported.
Meanwhile, our government is lobbying the Yanks to let illegal Irish immigrants get US citizenship. Cos we're special. And mostly white, presumably.

Walter Sobchak
22-07-2011, 10:49 PM
Besides getting bogged down in the emotive.

Ireland has no immigration agreement with Nigeria.
The courts found her case for staying to be unsatisfactory.
She was deported.


People's issue is with the abuse of the system.
The only winners here were the solicitors/barristers.

liam2me
23-07-2011, 08:03 PM
Your posts in this thread are a bit ironic coming from an immigrant.
I'm sure many parents would do something similar if they lived in a third world country and wanted a better life for their kids (indeed, thousands of Irish people have done something similar down the years). It's not as if she was living it up when she was here. It must have been a pretty shitty existence - unable to work, living on a pittance in an asylum centre constantly worrying about being deported.
Meanwhile, our government is lobbying the Yanks to let illegal Irish immigrants get US citizenship. Cos we're special. And mostly white, presumably.
She was an illegal immigrant who based her asylum claim on lies, I have no sympathy for her. Her kids yes, her, no.

Stacky
24-07-2011, 11:57 AM
Sure she can always come here again and try it on under a different name with false documents and s cock and bull story if she loves it here so much ?

Matlock
24-07-2011, 01:04 PM
Besides getting bogged down in the emotive.

Ireland has no immigration agreement with Nigeria.
The courts found her case for staying to be unsatisfactory.
She was deported.


People's issue is with the abuse of the system.
The only winners here were the solicitors/barristers.

Which ones Dan, the ones who acted for her and will never get paid, or the state ones who dont get paid on a case by case basis?

Cork-loving Jackeen
24-07-2011, 01:36 PM
She was an illegal immigrant who based her asylum claim on lies, I have no sympathy for her. Her kids yes, her, no.

Herein lies the crux of the matter. Genuine refugees should be welcomed to the first safe country they arrive in. Lying illegals, have no place in the country they try to claim asylum in and should therefore be deported. And on the subject of the illegal Irish in America, whilst I don't agree with anyone entering any country illegally, at least the Irish don't try to claim asylum! My brother has just become an American Citizen, after 12 years of owning a business there and being married to an American Citizen - he did it the right way.

liam2me
24-07-2011, 06:19 PM
Agree, genuine asylum seekers should be treated a lot better than they are and the process of allowing them into the country so they can work and pay taxes should be sped up, illegal economic migrants on the other hand, can fuck right off

Murdock
25-07-2011, 08:57 PM
Herein lies the crux of the matter. Genuine refugees should be welcomed to the first safe country they arrive in. Lying illegals, have no place in the country they try to claim asylum in and should therefore be deported. And on the subject of the illegal Irish in America, whilst I don't agree with anyone entering any country illegally, at least the Irish don't try to claim asylum! My brother has just become an American Citizen, after 12 years of owning a business there and being married to an American Citizen - he did it the right way.

What a dopey statement. Of course they don't. Ireland is (or was until recently at least) a First World country so they could have no reason to be claiming asylum. Instead thousands of Irish are just playing hide-and-seek with American authorities.

It's gross hypocrisy whatever way you try to spin it, especially when you consider the racist referendum from a few years back that means a child born here isn't really a citizen if its parents are both foreigners. And yet we want illegal Irish immigrants in the US to be given citizenship.

liam2me
26-07-2011, 08:49 AM
What a dopey statement. Of course they don't. Ireland is (or was until recently at least) a First World country so they could have no reason to be claiming asylum. Instead thousands of Irish are just playing hide-and-seek with American authorities.

It's gross hypocrisy whatever way you try to spin it, especially when you consider the racist referendum from a few years back that means a child born here isn't really a citizen if its parents are both foreigners. And yet we want illegal Irish immigrants in the US to be given citizenship.

Hardly racist to want to stop baby tourists who then try to seek a visa, which is in line with most countries. Typical lefty accusation to try to shut down an immigration argument that they know they'll lose

Cork-loving Jackeen
26-07-2011, 12:31 PM
What a dopey statement. Of course they don't. Ireland is (or was until recently at least) a First World country so they could have no reason to be claiming asylum. Instead thousands of Irish are just playing hide-and-seek with American authorities.

It's gross hypocrisy whatever way you try to spin it, especially when you consider the racist referendum from a few years back that means a child born here isn't really a citizen if its parents are both foreigners. And yet we want illegal Irish immigrants in the US to be given citizenship.

This referendum was hardly racist! This was done because of the numbers of non-EU nationals having children here just so that it would strengthen their case to stay in the country! Most of the rest of Europe copped onto this scam before we did. And if you read the rest of my post, I said that I don't agree with ANYONE entering ANY country ILLEGALLY - I don't discriminate.

Cork-loving Jackeen
26-07-2011, 12:31 PM
Hardly racist to want to stop baby tourists who then try to seek a visa, which is in line with most countries. Typical lefty accusation to try to shut down an immigration argument that they know they'll lose

Agreed.

Walter Sobchak
26-07-2011, 01:16 PM
Which ones Dan, the ones who acted for her and will never get paid, or the state ones who dont get paid on a case by case basis?

And you were doing so well.


Look just spare me you feeling the need to leap to the defence of every legalista in the country. Its gone beyond boring at this stage.

Matlock
26-07-2011, 01:22 PM
And you were doing so well.


Look just spare me you feeling the need to leap to the defence of every legalista in the country. Its gone beyond boring at this stage.

No problem, as long as you can spare me the "lawyers are responsible for all the ills in society" bollockology, which im guessing you can't...

optimus
27-07-2011, 02:57 PM
her solicitor has been denied citizenship...

http://www.courts.ie/Judgments.nsf/09859e7a3f3466968025 6ef3004a27de/09da71281f988b108025 78cb003b9192?OpenDoc ument

puravida
02-08-2011, 09:35 PM
PSh6SQd8UrI

This song has the answer to all of life's pressing questions

Professor Piehead
03-08-2011, 12:44 AM
No problem, as long as you can spare me the "lawyers are responsible for all the ills in society" bollockology, which im guessing you can't...

He can.

Check out the fees for the comming tribuneral reports and the NAMA costs, your crew are coining it.

How are the legal aid costs looking so far this year?

El Beef
03-08-2011, 12:46 AM
her solicitor has been denied citizenship...

http://www.courts.ie/Judgments.nsf/09859e7a3f3466968025 6ef3004a27de/09da71281f988b108025 78cb003b9192?OpenDoc ument

- Hahaha! What a mummer's farce!

pat d shaker
03-08-2011, 01:11 AM
regardless of what her case is/was
- Eu rules state that you must claim asylum in the first Eu country you enter. Since when can you fly direct from Nigeria to Ireland?
- She presented forged documents

JP Stone
03-08-2011, 01:18 AM
She must be delighted now, back in whatever fucking jungle she crawled out of, having made fucking idiots of a lot of morons in this country and not to mention what the ......( I don't know what to call her)....costed the taxpayer.

Professor Piehead
03-08-2011, 01:26 AM
She must be delighted now, back in whatever fucking jungle she crawled out of, having made fucking idiots of a lot of morons in this country and not to mention what the ......( I don't know what to call her)....costed the taxpayer.

Driving round Nigeria in their BMW looking for a new mansion to live in.

Of course, the legal industry are crying into their champagne glasses.

For a few seconds, as there are plenty more cases to carry on the gravy train.

Walter Sobchak
03-08-2011, 08:24 PM
Matty is sound, I will vouch for this.


That said, the fees solicitors charge for basic services provided are pretty obscene in most cases. The findings of the competition authority were ignored by FF as they were a shower of incomptetent me feiners who didnt want to rock any boat, its this kind of non thinking and inaction that has the country run into the sodding ground.

Hopefully Shatters reforms will be wideranging and result in a general lowering of basic fees in the legal profession which imo , in many cases are simply outrageous.

tobyscoby
03-08-2011, 10:07 PM
Driving round Nigeria in their BMW looking for a new mansion to live in.

Of course, the legal industry are crying into their champagne glasses.

For a few seconds, as there are plenty more cases to carry on the gravy train.

Poor white feather AWOL boy. You're just as much an immigrant as Pamela was.

Only difference is deserters like you don't need a visa.

You are more than welcome to be here of course, we need people like you to remind us how good we are.


Now flip those burgers, limey boy!



:lol:

tobyscoby
03-08-2011, 10:10 PM
Matty is sound, I will vouch for this.


That said, the fees solicitors charge for basic services provided are pretty obscene in most cases. The findings of the competition authority were ignored by FF as they were a shower of incomptetent me feiners who didnt want to rock any boat, its this kind of non thinking and inaction that has the country run into the sodding ground.

Hopefully Shatters reforms will be wideranging and result in a general lowering of basic fees in the legal profession which imo , in many cases are simply outrageous.


Brian Alcohowen was a solicitor, no wonder he didn't want to rock the boat.


Legal fees are anti democratic: they exclude poor people from taking cases to court. It's like a poker game if you get sued by some rich dude: they can just raise the stakes until you have to fold. I like the cut of Alan Shatter's jib: he seems to be changing things fairly quickly.

optimus
03-08-2011, 11:04 PM
regardless of what her case is/was
- Eu rules state that you must claim asylum in the first Eu country you enter. Since when can you fly direct from Nigeria to Ireland?
- She presented forged documents
unless you leave the airport you havent entered the country..

Professor Piehead
03-08-2011, 11:36 PM
Poor white feather AWOL boy. You're just as much an immigrant as Pamela was.

Only difference is deserters like you don't need a visa.

You are more than welcome to be here of course, we need people like you to remind us how good we are.


Now flip those burgers, limey boy!



:lol:

This shows your idiocy, I am a legal immigrant.

Married to a Limerick girl now.

2007 must still be hurting for you, seeing as you betrayed all that this website is all about.

Poor shambo, guffing to the max to ease your shame.

cork_south
04-08-2011, 10:14 AM
Here we go again.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/asylum-seeker-challenges-deportation-order-515228.html

A good day for solicitors :)