Skits on the Corrib Gas Deal

[As Láthair]

Two recent skits on the Corrib Gas Deal: one from Newstalk and the other from Gubuwire.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query =Wq0ccdacGMw&search_type=&aq=f

http://www.gubuwire.com/?p=2048

[slick fingers]

It makes me sick, there is already 12 trillion cubic feet of gas found off cork and Mayo, worth about 100 billion, now shell are trying to licence other parts of the west to exploit more. All for fucking free. Alot of people have this notion that its worth only a few billion, last estimate by the Dept of Natural resources is 450 billion. If we were to get a decent royalty from this, our national debt would be paid off in a few years. We would actually be the richest country in Europe, free health service etc etc etc

Zero fucking royalty like, arghhhhh....

[gaffer falls]

When Labour or Sinn Fein spokesmen are asked ' well what would you do', why they never bring up this

[Corcaigh32]

Learn the facts and get outta the way. Mayo could be the Aberdeen of Ireland but a few nimby farmers are preventing it for themselves.

[slick fingers]

Learn the facts and get outta the way. Mayo could be the Aberdeen of Ireland but a few nimby farmers are preventing it for themselves.

For themselves? Their protecting every home thats near the pipeline, its unprocessed high pressure gas ffs!

[poulgorm]

For themselves? Their protecting every home thats near the pipeline, its unprocessed high pressure gas ffs!

There are high pressure pipelines all over the country. In areas more densely populated than Mayo. Fact. Whether the gas is treated or not has no bearing on its safety. Fact.

[slick fingers]

There are high pressure pipelines all over the country. In areas more densely populated than Mayo. Fact. Whether the gas is treated or not has no bearing on its safety. Fact.

Domestic distribution is 4 bar, 70 bar for major distribution around Ireland. 350 bar at Rossport.. Where else in the world is there a 350bar pipeline in land?

http://www.emergency-management.net/pic/belgium_july_2004/belgium%20explosion% 20july%2030%202004%2 0No%2016.jpg

[poulgorm]

Domestic distribution is 4 bar, 70 bar for major distribution around Ireland. 350 bar at Rossport.. Where else in the world is there a 350bar pipeline in land?

http://www.emergency-management.net/pic/belgium_july_2004/belgium%20explosion% 20july%2030%202004%2 0No%2016.jpg

The working pressure of the pipeline is 140 bar. Same as BGE's interconnector 2 from Scotland. Fact

[Earth Repair]

The original proposed working pressure was 350 bar later reduced to 140 after protests and objections. That's one issue (safety)

The zero royalties is another. If it weren't for those "few nimby farmers" (and fishermen, teachers, parents, taxi drivers etc etc) putting themselves on the line this project would probably be finished by now and we would be having to buy our gas back off Shell and their buddies at market rates and we'd probably be none the wiser.
As it is the resources giveaway issue is becoming a little bit more well known and we have a chance to do something about it before the rest of the oil majors get in on the act.

[Closer80]

Newstalk is sponsored by...guess who...yup Topaz.

[fabvinny]

one of the main guys complaining about it also complained when electricity came to the area years ago!!! some people just born moaners!!

[midletonman]

one of the main guys complaining about it also complained when electricity came to the area years ago!!! some people just born moaners!!

where did you hear that?cos in fairness thts completely ridiculous.

not directly your comment but as an example of the crap peddled by most reports on the situation, we need truthful reporting on it. not biased, no influence from either side, but actually whats going on up there.

there was some good stuff in village last month, claiming that the community are not neccesarilly opposed but want it done correctly.

this pipeline is going over a raised bog. its a one off pipeline thats is heavier than anything that has gone before (afaik). putting it over a raised bog is incredibly risky imo. Bog stability as regards development is risky, take a look at the Derrybrien windfarm slide for evidence. I cant see it happening without it sinking, damaging the pipe and then who knows.

Ironically, and if anyone has any info on how the planners got around this, the bog is an EU Annex 1 protected habitat which should forbid any deveoplement. this can be overwritten for economic reasons but Id still like to know what happend with this particular situation.

[An Rón Mór]

It makes me sick, there is already 12 trillion cubic feet of gas found off cork and Mayo, worth about 100 billion, now shell are trying to licence other parts of the west to exploit more. All for fucking free. Alot of people have this notion that its worth only a few billion, last estimate by the Dept of Natural resources is 450 billion. If we were to get a decent royalty from this, our national debt would be paid off in a few years. We would actually be the richest country in Europe, free health service etc etc etc

Zero fucking royalty like, arghhhhh....

the irish government could have taken charge of the drilling at the cost of millions if not billions, all for drilling that could or could not have been successful.

[An Rón Mór]

a few of the protesters also protested against bringing electricity to the area. there are absolutely no employment prospects in the area and shell employs 2,000 people from mayo. very few people in mayo are against shell.

[midletonman]

a few of the protesters also protested against bringing electricity to the area. there are absolutely no employment prospects in the area and shell employs 2,000 people from mayo. very few people in mayo are against shell.


protesting against electricity?what a ridiculous bunch.

I dont think a lot of people are against them alright, its just the way they are going about the whole business thats the problem i think. seemingly theres an alternative site outlined in the independent Environmental Imapct Assessment but shell have chosen to ignore it. this site is suposed to be much safer then the current proposal.

[An Rón Mór]

apart from the occasional oddball the locals suppport shell (employment). even the shinners have given up protesting against it.
the only ones who have a problem with shell are middle class south dubliners and the great unwashed, who need something to protest about, cos they they couldn't be bothered their hole working.

[An Rón Mór]

in terms of danger shell is not half as dangerous as walking or even driving a road in mayo. the way those guys drive!

[slick fingers]

apart from the occasional oddball the locals suppport shell (employment). even the shinners have given up protesting against it.


Most of which accepted the €50 grand bribe from shell, whatever way you look at it the pipeline is unproven to be safe as its the only one in Europe that distributes raw gas onshore, this is untreated gas like, no smells if it it does leak. As for finding and drilling for gas/oil in the Corrib, the current success rate is 100%, snake well drilling is the norm, so the government could have taken charge with no risk at all. Like why didnt shell just build an offshore rig to save the years of protest? ;)

[Cliff Barnes]

Most of which accepted the €50 grand bribe from shell, whatever way you look at it the pipeline is unproven to be safe as its the only one in Europe that distributes raw gas onshore, this is untreated gas like, no smells if it it does leak. As for finding and drilling for gas/oil in the Corrib, the current success rate is 100%, snake well drilling is the norm, so the government could have taken charge with no risk at all. Like why didnt shell just build an offshore rig to save the years of protest? ;)

This is all being built in accordance with best international practice in the middle of nowhere.

If this pipe was buried 10 miles below ground these minority of cranks would still be moaning.

Loopers the lot of them.

[midletonman]

This is all being built in accordance with best international practice in the middle of nowhere.



its not. the shell EIA was found to be severly lacking. the independent EIA had pretty much different findings. that shouldnt happen!

[Cliff Barnes]

its not. the shell EIA was found to be severly lacking. the independent EIA had pretty much different findings. that shouldnt happen!

So work has been stopped by the E.P.A. & Building Control then due to non-compliance ?

Or are they just making it up as they go along with the plans on the back of a fag box without any approvals ?

The sooner that this is up and running the better so these cranks can go off and save the red squirrel or something.

[midletonman]

So work has been stopped by the E.P.A. & Building Control then due to non-compliance ?


look I dont know enough on the whole thing, I plan on reading up on it soon cos its of interest. But AFAIK the two EIA's had contrasting results. If they had, then something should have been done and someone is making money somewhere, and in this country thats pretty easy to imagine.

and by the way cliff old boy, this conservation business that you seem to sneer at is some peoples job and not restricted to stinky and his pals living down a hole with their dreadlocks.

[Cliff Barnes]

look I dont know enough on the whole thing, I plan on reading up on it soon cos its of interest. But AFAIK the two EIA's had contrasting results. If they had, then something should have been done and someone is making money somewhere, and in this country thats pretty easy to imagine.

and by the way cliff old boy, this conservation business that you seem to sneer at is some peoples job and not restricted to stinky and his pals living down a hole with their dreadlocks.

Conserving what exactly ?

An area of outstanding natural beauty ?

World heritage site ?

A massive tourist attraction visited by millions every summer ?

Or is it an underground invisible pipe.

Health and Safety is a huge business

Apollo 11 would never have gotten off the ground if that crowd was around in 1969.

[midletonman]

Conserving what exactly ?

An area of outstanding natural beauty ?

World heritage site ?

A massive tourist attraction visited by millions every summer ?

Or is it an underground invisible pipe.

Health and Safety is a huge business

Apollo 11 would never have gotten off the ground if that crowd was around in 1969.


I was talking about your remark regarding red squirrel conservation jibe and crusties etc.. not the pipeline.

I wont be conserving red squirrel now or any other time but will be hopefully working in a conservation/managment related area.

any chance of a job!