Ronaldo unveiling

[wayne gayle]

Live on Real Madrid TV now, packed stadium, they are treating it like the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. As if the wanker's ego isn't big enough already.

[STEVIEG]

Nice of Ronaldo to go back for a low-key visit to Manchester to personally thank Fergie for all his help

Respect



As for Real Madrid, i used the phrase "glorified Newcastle" last week and i stand by it

When the presentations become bigger than the games you have a problem but they might deliver on the pitch so we will see

[wayne gayle]

Nice of Ronaldo to go back for a low-key visit to Manchester to personally thank Fergie for all his help


Spose so, he's still a wanker though.
This thing on TV is hilarious;the wan interviewing people on the pitch is exactly like one of those bimbos on that pile of shite on TV3 (Expose);simpering non-stop while she interviews people who lick Ronnie's arse non-stop.

[STEVIEG]

There is no need to be bitter, sir. Real are a bigger and more prestigious team than united. You neeed to accept this and move on.

Historically they are a bigger club but they have a lot of small time fans (you included?)

They are pretty average these days though and the new players will still make them inferior to Barca imo

Do you support them?

[STEVIEG]

I have no problem with them buying the best players but this is terrible shit from Perez

http://www.ireland.com/sport/Perezs_Super_League_ ambition/maxi/fast/news/irnews/TMGfootballnewsheadl ines7547544

"We have to agree a new European Super League which guarantees that the best always play the best - something that does not happen in the Champions League," said Perez

i.e


we are shit in Europe these days and should be allowed to get to the last 8 automatically, because unlike Lyon and Roma we never get that far these days

[markinmanc]

I have no problem with them buying the best players but this is terrible shit from Perez

http://www.ireland.com/sport/Perezs_Super_League_ ambition/maxi/fast/news/irnews/TMGfootballnewsheadl ines7547544

"We have to agree a new European Super League which guarantees that the best always play the best - something that does not happen in the Champions League," said Perez

i.e


we are shit in Europe these days and should be allowed to get to the last 8 automatically, because unlike Lyon and Roma we never get that far these days


But the likes of Ajax, Bayern, Arsenal etc will go for it as their positions will be secured also. Which is shite really.

[TOMÁS]

you got to love the fact that he wore his nike top.

[STEVIEG]

http://www.sporyolu.com/images/stories/vassel12.jpg
http://www.sporyolu.com/images/stories/vassel13.jpg

[MonTheHoops]

They're in for some hop...

[STEVIEG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXCtsxzXBKg

do they not have the internet or satellite tv in Turkey?

[Diego Murphy]

i'm watching it now....second coming of christ is right.....don't think he'd even pull off that sort of turn out. Barca won the treble and haven't come close to doing anything like this. I've never seen the likes of it. God only knows what they'd have done if they'd won the league and champs league

[wayne gayle]

DiStefano looks like he would prefer to be wrapped up in a blanket by the fire with a cup of cocoa. I noticed a few United shirts with Ronaldo 7 in the crowd (?!!).

[Diego Murphy]

DiStefano looks like he would prefer to be wrapped up in a blanket by the fire with a cup of cocoa. I noticed a few United shirts with Ronaldo 7 in the crowd (?!!).

yeah he didn't look a bit happy.....

[STEVIEG]

I was at the unveiling of Ronaldindo, Laporta and Rijkaard and it was a pretty drawn out affair alright but there was a match after v Boca Juniors at least (that's why we were there, didn't realise about the unveiling till we got there, the match didn't kick off for hours)

Barca have always had a bit more class though in fairness

[xvis]

It's some craic.

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite?pagename=R ealMadrid/Page/iframePromociones&cid=1202774982994&site=RealMadrid&language=en

[wat_boy]

This is ridiculous

[Lee Bushwacker]

i.e


we are shit in Europe these days and should be allowed to get to the last 8 automatically, because unlike Lyon and Roma we never get that far these days

:cool:
Top class Stevie! :lol!: :lol!:

[Lee Bushwacker]

i'm watching it now....second coming of christ is right.....don't think he'd even pull off that sort of turn out. Barca won the treble and haven't come close to doing anything like this. I've never seen the likes of it. God only knows what they'd have done if they'd won the league and champs league

:cool:
Probably less than tonight. CR9 = LOADSAMONEY!!! :rolleyes:

[STEVIEG]

Certainly not! I despise the club and its ethos. However, for any United fan(I presume you are one) to intimate that Real have small time supporters, and/or criticise their transfer policy, is highly contradictory behaviour. I conjecture that the majority of Man utd's supporters are flagrant glory hunters.

You need to take a good long look at your own team before you lambaste any other.

I just remembered your wum thread from last week

I wasn't criticising Madrids policy at all

Real Madrid have more glory hunting supporters than possibly anyone in the world and make no apologies or bones about the fact that they are trying to spread their brand further by acquiring big name players

There is nothing wrong with this as such but when tours of Asia, which most big teams undertake, get in the way of team performance (Madrid a few years ago), questions should be asked

Call me old fashioned but i'm more concerned with what players do on the pitch

[xvis]

http://estaticos04.marca.co m/albumes/2009/07/06/show_cristiano_ronal do/1246910475_extras_al bumes_0.jpg


heh heh

[Lee Bushwacker]

Nice of Ronaldo to go back for a low-key visit to Manchester to personally thank Fergie for all his help

Respect



As for Real Madrid, i used the phrase "glorified Newcastle" last week and i stand by it

When the presentations become bigger than the games you have a problem but they might deliver on the pitch so we will see

:cool:
"Glorified Newcastle" :lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

[Haalands Dodgy Leg]

Great from a marketing point of view.
Its not something that i would be a fan of but if it gets the shirt sales......

[STEVIEG]

the ruckus at the end was funny when the fans broke the security barrier

The Spanish cops looked set to go all Rodney King on their asses:)

[Edmund Blackwater]

http://i32.tinypic.com/2yl2xsi.jpg

[STEVIEG]

The young fella who brought him the footballer was asked by Ronnie who his favourite player was

"Kaka", he replied

lol:)

[BostonRebel]

http://estaticos04.marca.co m/albumes/2009/07/06/show_cristiano_ronal do/1246910475_extras_al bumes_0.jpg


heh heh

Sure 'tis only the fucking CR7 grease that's holding the ball in place anyway...;)

[Lapsy Pa]

I wonder how long we'll have to wait before perez declares that ronaldo is after paying for his fee in shirt sales, image rights etc. already

In beckhams case it was about september ie. three months after he signed

[Lamps]

Just watched it on the BBC there. Great stuff. This is what soccer is all about. Showbizz. Showtime. Lets get ready to rumbleeeee.

You either accept that its a disgusting business with no morals and get on with it or you straighten the whole thing out and remove the financial advantage the likes of manyoo and madrid have over the others. Lads here are falling between two stools. Castiagting madrid and saying ManYoo are the template. FFS, pull the other one, if Manyoo could pull off the money making scams madrid can they'd be at the very same thing. All Real are is a Hollywood version of ManYoo.

Personally, I think the European Super league is the way to go. Sure the premier league is a joke anyway with only the big rich teams able to compete. Who really cares in the greater marketplace about Bolton v Everton? Better off stick the 20 richest clubs together and getting something competitive. Get all the best players into those clubs and let them go at it.

I'm starting to side with Madrid now for next season, will see how the first few games pan out.

[mightyquark]

It looked a lot bigger than silverware Sunday

[KD Langer]

Just watched it on the BBC there. Great stuff. This is what soccer is all about. Showbizz. Showtime. Lets get ready to rumbleeeee.

You either accept that its a disgusting business with no morals and get on with it or you straighten the whole thing out and remove the financial advantage the likes of manyoo and madrid have over the others. Lads here are falling between two stools. Castiagting madrid and saying ManYoo are the template. FFS, pull the other one, if Manyoo could pull off the money making scams madrid can they'd be at the very same thing. All Real are is a Hollywood version of ManYoo.

Personally, I think the European Super league is the way to go. Sure the premier league is a joke anyway with only the big rich teams able to compete. Who really cares in the greater marketplace about Bolton v Everton? Better off stick the 20 richest clubs together and getting something competitive. Get all the best players into those clubs and let them go at it.

I'm starting to side with Madrid now for next season, will see how the first few games pan out.


spot on lamps. fuck the whole history of football, let the rich tapestry of the game disintegrate, put the 20 biggest clubs together in a shite competition everyone will be bored of in 5 minutes and let the rest of football go the wall.

mr. perez might even hire you as his press agent.

[Lamps]

spot on lamps. fuck the whole history of football, let the rich tapestry of the game disintegrate, put the 20 biggest clubs together in a shite competition everyone will be bored of in 5 minutes and let the rest of football go the wall.

mr. perez might even hire you as his press agent.

Soccer as it was died in 1993. It hobbling along now half dead. Where is the fun following anyone but one of the big 4 now? Where is the glory following cannon fodder like Derby or my team QPR. The "rich tapestry" of the game has already disintegrated, can you not see that.

The fans want razmatazz, the sooner this happens the better. I have no interest in watching Stoke v Villa when these teams are no longer important, and its me and people like me who count these days. These are the facts.

Bring on the super league

[KD Langer]

Soccer as it was died in 1993. It hobbling along now half dead. Where is the fun following anyone but one of the big 4 now? Where is the glory following cannon fodder like Derby or my team QPR. The "rich tapestry" of the game has already disintegrated, can you not see that.

The fans want razmatazz, the sooner this happens the better. I have no interest in watching Stoke v Villa when these teams are no longer important, and its me and people like me who count these days. These are the facts.

Bring on the super league

nearly lamps nearly.


back to mr. hannigan thread with ya:)

[Lamps]

I'm 100% serious.

Real are the greatest club in the world, what Perez says should be given a lot of consideration

[Actin The Sham]

I think that a European Super League is the way to go. Why bother watching dreary grey clubs like Bolton, Nantes, Bremen, Udinese, Shamrock Rovers playing other boring dreary grey teams?

We should be able to watch Real, AC Milan, Olympique Lyonnais, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Barcelona, Arsenal, and the other top clubs in Europe playing each other, rather than paying good money to TV companies to watch dross.

[Actin The Sham]

I'm 100% serious.

Real are the greatest club in the world, what Perez says should be given a lot of consideration

I'm always reminded of Berlusconi's words a few years ago when he said that in the future, people would be allowed to enter the San Siro for free in order to create an atmosphere for the paying fans who would be watching on TV.

The Americans, Arabs, and Russians who own the biggest clubs in the Premier League will no doubt be looking at Real Madrid as the template for future success.

[Lamps]

I'm always reminded of Berlusconi's words a few years ago when he said that in the future, people would be allowed to enter the San Siro for free in order to create an atmosphere for the paying fans who would be watching on TV.

The Americans, Arabs, and Russians who own the biggest clubs in the Premier League will no doubt be looking at Real Madrid as the template for future success.

Its the way of the future.

I think it will be great.

ManYoo v Bayern on a Saturday
Liverpool v Barca on a Sunday
Real v Milan on a Monday night.

Thats what the paying punters in ireland and greece and norway want.

[Rebelred]

Its the way of the future.

I think it will be great.

ManYoo v Bayern on a Saturday
Liverpool v Barca on a Sunday
Real v Milan on a Monday night.

Thats what the paying punters in ireland and greece and norway want.

and meanwhile in the premier league:

Bolton V Hull on Saturday
Sunderland V Wigan on Sunday
Burnley V Portsmouth on Monday

[wayne gayle]

Perez is talking shit and is only thinking about making his own club and their ilk (Milan, Man U etc.) even more stinking rich than they are already while at the same time marginalising the clubs who occasionally qualify for the Champions League (eg .Villareal and Schalke).
He has obviously got a short memory too as I seem to recall UEFA having two group stages in the Champions League a few years ago and they had to scrap it due to falling attendances and TV viewing figures.
People get bored watching the same teams playing each other all the time. Liverpool and Chelsea have met how many times in the Champions League over the last five years?
Also Bayern Munich and Real Madrid played each other a load of times in recent years.
I didn't think it was possible for Perez to make me hate him even more that I do already but he actually pulled it off.

[Niall D]

bring in a limit on the amount of foreigners playing for a team

[Edmund Blackwater]

bring in a limit on the amount of foreigners playing for a team

Why has no-one ever thought of this?
Oh yeah, because it contravenes EU law.

[Niall D]

i know its been thought of......... just its the only way. anyway then wouldn't national teams break EU law in some way???

[johnmcork]

Just watched it on the BBC there. Great stuff. This is what soccer is all about. Showbizz. Showtime. Lets get ready to rumbleeeee.

You either accept that its a disgusting business with no morals and get on with it or you straighten the whole thing out and remove the financial advantage the likes of manyoo and madrid have over the others. Lads here are falling between two stools. Castiagting madrid and saying ManYoo are the template. FFS, pull the other one, if Manyoo could pull off the money making scams madrid can they'd be at the very same thing. All Real are is a Hollywood version of ManYoo.

Personally, I think the European Super league is the way to go. Sure the premier league is a joke anyway with only the big rich teams able to compete. Who really cares in the greater marketplace about Bolton v Everton? Better off stick the 20 richest clubs together and getting something competitive. Get all the best players into those clubs and let them go at it.

I'm starting to side with Madrid now for next season, will see how the first few games pan out.

bandwagonning of sublime proportions, fare play to you

[Edmund Blackwater]

anyway then wouldn't national teams break EU law in some way???
no,

[ESilva]

For what I read from Ronaldo topic to the Super League issues I just think your ideas are quite fcuk and Perez and is stupidity is amazing an idiot.
Ronaldo is a arrogant fucker and after last night he will get worse, he thinks that he owns the world imagine what will happen today is head will be so big that he cant get inside of Santiago. No one can't doubt about is skills and that he can change the score of a game in 1minute when you less expect but this is all no one in this world deserves this much attention and so much money for something so small after all Football dont feed no one and dont stop wars or save our arses from poverty.
But since the world is getting nuts again (:p) this only destroy the market for small teams and if a small team want to fight for something more and get X or Y players the prices will be unrealistic, ofc no one cares anyway.
The gaps that happen atm are based on transf markets, and thats all the creation of a Super League will help the "rich" teams to keep the levels and spend millions on players the small teams will be semi-prof.
Btw on that list there is many clubs they can call them self big teams with more history and reputation that many of them.
What is Arsenal?! Lyon?! in europe what did they won?!
Marseilhe, PSG, Lazio, Ajax, PSV, D.Bucarest have more champions leagues that Arsenal and Lyon and on the years they won football was based on love for the jersey.
Exemple. Benfica, 2 champions leagues, 5 Finals Lost who can say they aint a big club of Europe even 2 years ago they went to all might Anfield Road and win 2-0.
In case a super League gets a go from FIFA say goodbye to all the clubs that dont have money and say goodbye to the competitive matchs on the weekend and Domestic championships.

and about Ronaldo what stupid prick.

[Lamps]

Poor teams need to be put in their place ESilva, they have no place in the modern game.

Let them keep their traditions alive in the domestic leagues and let the rich clubs do battle for the people in tv land like myself.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Didn't the setting up of the premiershit already cut teams off?
How would a euro super league be any different?

[Actin The Sham]

I don't think they should expand the European Champions League. I think they should abolish it, and have a proper full European Super League. Take the best teams out of the national leagues and have them playing each other on a home and away basis over the course of the season.

Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, Villareal from Spain, Olympique Lyonnaise, Marseille, and Paris St. Germain (for geographic reasons) from France, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus and Roma from Italy, Ajax from Holland, Bayern Munich and possibly Borussia Dortmund from Germany with other clubs such as Porto, Monaco, Sporting Lisbon, Manchester City, Valencia etc. being other potential candidates.

A proper European Super League with the biggest teams and the best players playing each other all over Europe throughout the season. It could be structured so that matches would be played in southern Europe (Italy, Spain, southern France, Portugal,) during the depths of winter as well.


This is just a wild guess so don't all gang up on me now. It is just out there for discussion.

[Lamps]

Another factor to consider is that we'd have Celtic competing on a European level. Would be great for this country to have a representative at the top table

[Actin The Sham]

Another factor to consider is that we'd have Celtic competing on a European level. Would be great for this country to have a representative at the top table

Celtic and Rangers would play in a Scandinavian league with Brondby and Helsingborg so that they would be able to find their level.

[Niall D]

no,

can you tell me why?

For what I read from Ronaldo topic to the Super League issues I just think your ideas are quite fcuk and Perez and is stupidity is amazing an idiot.
Ronaldo is a arrogant fucker and after last night he will get worse, he thinks that he owns the world imagine what will happen today is head will be so big that he cant get inside of Santiago. No one can't doubt about is skills and that he can change the score of a game in 1minute when you less expect but this is all no one in this world deserves this much attention and so much money for something so small after all Football dont feed no one and dont stop wars or save our arses from poverty.
But since the world is getting nuts again (:p) this only destroy the market for small teams and if a small team want to fight for something more and get X or Y players the prices will be unrealistic, ofc no one cares anyway.
The gaps that happen atm are based on transf markets, and thats all the creation of a Super League will help the "rich" teams to keep the levels and spend millions on players the small teams will be semi-prof.
Btw on that list there is many clubs they can call them self big teams with more history and reputation that many of them.
What is Arsenal?! Lyon?! in europe what did they won?!
Marseilhe, PSG, Lazio, Ajax, PSV, D.Bucarest have more champions leagues that Arsenal and Lyon and on the years they won football was based on love for the jersey.
Exemple. Benfica, 2 champions leagues, 5 Finals Lost who can say they aint a big club of Europe even 2 years ago they went to all might Anfield Road and win 2-0.
In case a super League gets a go from FIFA say goodbye to all the clubs that dont have money and say goodbye to the competitive matchs on the weekend and Domestic championships.

and about Ronaldo what stupid prick.

in fairness most people would think they owned the world if they had 80,000 fans show up at an unveiling, its pretty impressive.

[Lamps]

I don't think they should expand the European Champions League. I think they should abolish it, and have a proper full European Super League. Take the best teams out of the national leagues and have them playing each other on a home and away basis over the course of the season.

Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, Villareal from Spain, Olympique Lyonnaise, Marseille, and Paris St. Germain (for geographic reasons) from France, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus and Roma from Italy, Ajax from Holland, Bayern Munich and possibly Borussia Dortmund from Germany with other clubs such as Porto, Monaco, Sporting Lisbon, Manchester City, Valencia etc. being other potential candidates.

A proper European Super League with the biggest teams and the best players playing each other all over Europe throughout the season. It could be structured so that matches would be played in southern Europe (Italy, Spain, southern France, Portugal,) during the depths of winter as well.


This is just a wild guess so don't all gang up on me now. It is just out there for discussion.

I'd even go one further and have 2 divisions, you could leave PSV, Celtic and Rangers, a greek team, two of the weaker premier league clubs maybe in and leave them all battle it out in division two for two promotion spots

It would be epic.

[Lamps]

Celtic and Rangers would play in a Scandinavian league with Brondby and Helsingborg so that they would be able to find their level.

We need irish representation in this.

After a couple of years they'd find their feet with all the money that would be involved.

[Actin The Sham]

I'd even go one further and have 2 divisions, you could leave PSV, Celtic and Rangers, a greek team, two of the weaker premier league clubs maybe in and leave them all battle it out in division two for two promotion spots

It would be epic.

They could call it "The European Challenge League."

[ESilva]

I really can't understand whats the point of destroying "the peoples sport" for a thing like this, plus the TV sports Channels will make ppl play fortunes just to see a match, is just me can't see the picture :(

I think if they accept to something like that is better start so see all your teams owned my by the Arabes and Russians "PetroDolares"
btw Dortumund and Sporting Villareal PSG, Monaco not in the top 100 best clubs

[Edmund Blackwater]

I really can't understand whats the point of destroying "the peoples sport" for a thing like this, plus the TV sports Channels will make ppl play fortunes just to see a match, is just me can't see the picture :(

I think if they accept to something like that is better start so see all your teams owned my by the Arabes and Russians "PetroDolares"
btw Dortumund and Sporting Villareal PSG, Monaco not in the top 100 best clubs

Maybe instead of paying fortunes, people would go back to supporting their local clubs. You know, turn up at a game or something crazy like that.

Or we could all head around to Stevie's on matchday.
You're not looking at the positives.

[Actin The Sham]

I really can't understand whats the point of destroying "the peoples sport" for a thing like this, plus the TV sports Channels will make ppl play fortunes just to see a match, is just me can't see the picture :(

I think if they accept to something like that is better start so see all your teams owned my by the Arabes and Russians "PetroDolares"
btw Dortumund and Sporting Villareal PSG, Monaco not in the top 100 best clubs

You are a very well informed poster. Are you from Portugal?

I cannot claim to know as much about soccer as you seem to, I am genuinely interested in your background.


Da Silva was the name of one of my all time sporting Heroes.

[ESilva]

Yes im from Lisbon, and yes Sporting is nothing in europe or Portugal is the 3rd team on any ranking. Benfica the Historical team of Portugal and Porto with best ranking, you can look to all the backgrounds from Sporting History and Sporting never won anything besides on Cup in 1948 and 22 years without a domestic championship so we can't even look at sporting has a big team.
I don't claim I know that much about football, but I know a little.

[STEVIEG]

Maybe instead of paying fortunes, people would go back to supporting their local clubs. You know, turn up at a game or something crazy like that.

Or we could all head around to Stevie's on matchday.
You're not looking at the positives.

Good work Edmund

See ya at the Cross

Oh

wait

[Lapsy Pa]

Another factor to consider is that we'd have Celtic competing on a European level. Would be great for this country to have a representative at the top table

It would, absolutely!
Celtic and Rangers would play in a Scandinavian league with Brondby and Helsingborg so that they would be able to find their level.

Believe it or not most Celtic fans know our place isn't at the top table of european football and never claimed it to be.

It's cocky EPL fans that put down the obviously inferior scottish league as a bravado boost to help them get over their "second best league in the world" tag

You actually sound just like the english themselves. How proud does that make you feel.

[Actin The Sham]

Yes im from Lisbon, and yes Sporting is nothing in europe or Portugal is the 3rd team on any ranking. Benfica the Historical team of Portugal and Porto with best ranking, you can look to all the backgrounds from Sporting History and Sporting never won anything besides on Cup in 1948 and 22 years without a domestic championship so we can't even look at sporting has a big team.
I don't claim I know that much about football, but I know a little.

Welcome to Cork. Your English is extremely good.

My sporting hero was Ayrton Senna DaSilva.

[Actin The Sham]

It would, absolutely!


Believe it or not most Celtic fans know our place isn't at the top table of european football and never claimed it to be.

It's cocky EPL fans that put down the obviously inferior scottish league as a bravado boost to help them get over their "second best league in the world" tag

You actually sound just like the english themselves. How proud does that make you feel.

I couldn't care less about British teams like Celtic, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, or Rangers. I would just like to see a European league where the best play the best, week in week out.

The Champions league format is too restrictive.

[Haalands Dodgy Leg]

era sure wait till next year when we make it number 19 and then ye can go about starting yer super league ffs.

[ESilva]

Thanks a Million mate I been in Cork for the last 2 years, only found out about this forum recently, anyway Senna was the best F1 Pilot ever.
But back to the topic I still think Super League is a atrocity for real football fans that dream one day the team they support play with the best.

This is only my opinion lads.

[marco 2005]

Cristianomania's started on monday night, 15 jerseys sold per minutes.....2000 jerseys sold in 2 hours...85 euros each...ffs.

[wayne gayle]

Cristianomania's started on monday night, 15 jerseys sold per minutes.....2000 jerseys sold in 2 hours...85 euros each...ffs.

That's only 170,000 euros so they still owe La Caixa 78.3 million.

[Jesse Custer]

That's only 170,000 euros so they still owe La Caixa 78.3 million.

Or 79.83 million!

[Jesse Custer]

can you tell me why?

because the national teams don't employ the players?

[AmadeusDC]

That's only 170,000 euros so they still owe La Caixa 78.3 million.

I hope you do the Math when the people I owe calculate my debts! ;)

-AmadeusDC-

[marco 2005]

That's only 170,000 euros so they still owe La Caixa 78.3 million.

thats his first 10 days wages covered

[five eight job]

thats his first 10 days wages covered

tis early yet. people are still busy buying wacko jacko records.........

[Niall D]

because the national teams don't employ the players?

oh yeah. shite. sorry

[wayne gayle]

I hope you do the Math when the people I owe calculate my debts! ;)

-AmadeusDC-

Erra what's a million quid or two when your name is Fiorentino Perez and you can take out loans that you have no intention of paying back.