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markinmanc
19-06-2009, 08:51 AM
The people of Ireland are being terrorised into accepting subcontracted abortion factories.
Apparently.
madcyril
19-06-2009, 02:37 PM
terrorised with fake promises and guarantees by the sound of it.
I hear that not only is the reworked treaty going to force abortion into Ireland, but as a sop to the country and an attempt to prop up our ailing job market, they're going to force through proposals that mean that every woman in Europe who wants to have an abortion is going to have to come to Ireland to the special abortion clinics that are to established here.
i_didnt_do_nawtin
19-06-2009, 03:35 PM
I heard they're going to let in a load of commies
Their job is to eat the aborted foetuses. The Green Party insisted it was the only safe method of disposal and even with high unemployment, no Irish would take that job. But it turns out aborted foetus is a Bulgarian delicacy.
starchaser
19-06-2009, 06:25 PM
you wont be joking so much when conscription comes into force.
langerdan69
20-06-2009, 04:51 PM
I'll be voting yes
While the Yes side are no angels the lies and spin coming from the No side is worse. There's nothing in there about abortion, neutrality and conscription. It's the same tired arguments that the No side have been making for years and they've proved to be lies time and time again.
Liars and spinners.
While bad things have resulted from our EU membership there's been far more good. Most of our enlightened laws in the last 30 years came from our EU membership such as the environment, equal opportunities, competition, freedom to travel, freedom to work and much more besides.
We have been a total fuck up at running our own affairs, most of the governing elite, especially the FF party are so far up their own arses that they've lost sight of reality a long time ago.
Conscription?
It's quite clear in the treaty, that conscription only applies to those who voted No or didn't vote.
Vote Yes and you won't get conscripted!
Cliff Barnes
22-06-2009, 01:40 PM
you wont be joking so much when conscription comes into force.
Conscription ?
The only chance of conscription being introduced in Ireland is if we get invaded by the Chinese or Aliens.
Another stupid red herring argument demolished.
daithi81
22-06-2009, 02:08 PM
you wont be joking so much when conscription comes into force.
Sir, step away from the Google video...
Matlock
22-06-2009, 02:13 PM
I hear that not only is the reworked treaty going to force abortion into Ireland, but as a sop to the country and an attempt to prop up our ailing job market, they're going to force through proposals that mean that every woman in Europe who wants to have an abortion is going to have to come to Ireland to the special abortion clinics that are to established here.
I heard the abortion clinic is going to be located in Knock.
Right beside the shrine.
hemlock666
22-06-2009, 02:28 PM
So if we vote no again what happens? Lisbon 3? Invasion?
daithi81
22-06-2009, 02:32 PM
So if we vote no again what happens? Lisbon 3? Invasion?
They will move on without us. We will probably be allowed to remain in the economic union, if we want to, but we will have no say in what occurs.
Lamps
22-06-2009, 02:35 PM
I hear Robbie Keane has lent his weight and influence to the Yes side. As has Denis Hickie.
Vote No for sanity
hemlock666
22-06-2009, 02:41 PM
They will move on without us. We will probably be allowed to remain in the economic union, if we want to, but we will have no say in what occurs.
Really? Have there been any statements made by anyone or will it become a matter of scare tactics again when the time gets nearer?
daithi81
22-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Really? Have there been any statements made by anyone or will it become a matter of scare tactics again when the time gets nearer?
Well, that was the language used last time. It was pretty much a case of 'we are moving on with this'. So if we reject it again, we wont be asked again. I reckon we will just end up in some diluted role or maybe even leaving.
Cliff Barnes
22-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Vote YES !!!
If only to save our sorry asses from the mess we are in.
Lamps
22-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Ye think I'm joking
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/robbie-keane-to-help-new-group-score-a-lisbon-yes-1783309.html
Also involved is the Edge. The group is being run by super sponger Pat Cox
Libertas eat your heart out
So if we vote no again what happens? Lisbon 3? Invasion?
Apparently, in that case, all Irish women will be sold to be sex slaves in the Middle East. Irish men will be sex slaves in Thailand.
Cliff Barnes
22-06-2009, 03:00 PM
Ye think I'm joking
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/robbie-keane-to-help-new-group-score-a-lisbon-yes-1783309.html
Also involved is the Edge. The group is being run by super sponger Pat Cox
Libertas eat your heart out
I'm with The Edge on this one.
Vote yes for free moolah from Europe.
Lamps
22-06-2009, 03:01 PM
I'm with The Edge on this one.
Vote yes for free moolah from Europe.
The same Edge who won't pay taxes here when the country is going down the shitter. What have the likes of the Edge and Robbie Keane who don't even live here got to do with it.
Cliff Barnes
22-06-2009, 03:06 PM
The same Edge who won't pay taxes here when the country is going down the shitter. What have the likes of the Edge and Robbie Keane who don't even live here got to do with it.
Musicians / Actors & Artists have paid almost zero tax since Haugheys days.
The Edge lives in Dalkey.
Robbie Keane has bought a house in Malahide and may move back after his footie days are over.
So long as it's just The Edge
If Bono signs up, I may switch to being a No voter.
Cliff Barnes
22-06-2009, 03:08 PM
So long as it's just The Edge
If Bono signs up, I may switch to being a No voter.
Agreed.
If Bono and Philomena Begly sign up its a Non for me.
Lamps
22-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Do we really want to take advice from the likes of these guys who won't even do their bit during the recession
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21494049/
VOTE NO for your livelihood
Vote YES !!!
If only to save our sorry asses from the mess we are in.
Agreed
hemlock666
23-06-2009, 02:38 PM
Musicians / Actors & Artists have paid almost zero tax since Haugheys days.
The Edge lives in Dalkey.
Robbie Keane has bought a house in Malahide and may move back after his footie days are over.
U2's publishing company is based in the Netherlands, the Edge being a principal songwriter should either base the empire here, pay their dues or keep out of Irish politics.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aef6sR60oDgM&refer=home
Closer80
23-06-2009, 02:40 PM
U2's publishing company is based in the Netherlands, the Edge being a principal songwriter should either base the empire here, pay their dues or keep out of Irish politics.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aef6sR60oDgM&refer=home
Yup.
They aren't tax payers, in fact they went out of their way to make sure their money doesn't go to the Irish economy. So fuck them.
As far as i'm concerned they are not an Irish band anyway, but then again i hate u2 ;)
By the way Cliff, they do now have to pay tax, at least when you're in u2's bracket. That's why they moved their base.
Cliff Barnes
23-06-2009, 02:41 PM
U2's publishing company is based in the Netherlands, the Edge being a principal songwriter should either base the empire here, pay their dues or keep out of Irish politics.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aef6sR60oDgM&refer=home
I'd say its a free world and he can do or say anything he wishes.
You could choose to ignore him.
hemlock666
23-06-2009, 02:43 PM
I'd say its a free world and he can do or say anything he wishes.
You could choose to ignore him.
Or he could choose to pay tax in a country he sees fit to lecture on political decisions. Freeloading cunt.
Cliff Barnes
23-06-2009, 02:46 PM
Or he could choose to pay tax in a country he sees fit to lecture on political decisions. Freeloading cunt.
What is he getting for free and point me in the direction of which tax / revenue codes he is in breach of ?
Does Gerry Adams pay tax in Ireland?
Cliff Barnes
23-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Does Gerry Adams pay tax in Ireland?
yes, from his Northern Bank raid lolly :mrgreen:
Does Jens-Peter Bonde pay his tax in Ireland?
hemlock666
23-06-2009, 02:54 PM
What is he getting for free and point me in the direction of which tax / revenue codes he is in breach of ?
He's done nothing illegal, where did I suggest that?
So its ok for him to lecture us about our country after he's done everything legally in his power to avoid paying tax?
In order to validate his opinion he should contribute, which he doesn't, unless we are Holland, which we aren't. He he prefers to pay less tax in Holland, grand but to turn around and get on the Irish yes vote team is a fucking insult to anyone wh pays their tax here and doesnt have the choice of relocating when the purse strings tighten.
I might add that the last time U2 played slane it was estimated the made 2 grand each per minute on stage. He can take a flying fuck off the nearest pier cause he and his ilk are freeloaders and their national allegance dissappears fast when it's payback time.
Funky Munky
23-06-2009, 02:55 PM
did anybody actually read the Lisbon treaty? the 1st one and the revised one...
Didn't Ben Dunne evade tax and bribe politicians?
Where was the outrage at his involvement in the No camp in Lisbon I?
did anybody actually read the Lisbon treaty? the 1st one and the revised one...
Yes
It's long, but it's not as difficult as it's made out to be.
The important thing is to read the consolidated treaty. The actual treaty is all stuff like "insert this sentence at then end of that clause in a previous treaty". There was a version on the EU's website that gave what the final documents would read like after the various changes had been made.
daithi81
23-06-2009, 03:06 PM
did anybody actually read the Lisbon treaty? the 1st one and the revised one...
Have a bank account? Ever read this?
http://www.irishstatutebook .ie/2004/en/act/pub/0021/index.html
Funky Munky
23-06-2009, 03:07 PM
Have a bank account? Ever read this?
http://www.irishstatutebook .ie/2004/en/act/pub/0021/index.html
i don't see you point there daithi..
Funky Munky
23-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Yes
It's long, but it's not as difficult as it's made out to be.
The important thing is to read the consolidated treaty. The actual treaty is all stuff like "insert this sentence at then end of that clause in a previous treaty". There was a version on the EU's website that gave what the final documents would read like after the various changes had been made.
got it there jd in pdf.. i'm going to read it before i make any comment on it..
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