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miahp
06-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Anyone got any trends or tallies ? RTE saying very little.
Queer-Hawk
06-06-2009, 07:16 PM
i think the city hall will be painted a revolutionary red from what im hearing; ted tynan from the workers party looks set to win a seat,the socialists mick 'the red' barry is topping the poll on northside and sinn feins henry cremin, ken ahern, fiona kerins, jonathan o brian and thomas gould look like their gonna get seats while labour are just running away with the show!
as for fianna fail....well....im hearing damien wallace, tom o driscoll, fergal dennehy, and sean martin all look like their in trouble
slick fingers
06-06-2009, 09:54 PM
http://www.politics.ie/cork/
bumble
06-06-2009, 11:14 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/elections/local/
Click select constituency
dubdear
07-06-2009, 12:08 AM
what about results of town council elections eg bantry ,Macroom etc.Can they be got online?
corkoniense
07-06-2009, 12:14 AM
Ted Tynan elected. Fergal Dennehy gone(thank christ!), chris o leary (defected green) expected to take a seat.
Bennyton
07-06-2009, 12:18 AM
haha Fair play to Ted Tynan, the poor fuckers been running for 20 years without being elected, dunno where he was getting the money for it but sure good luck to him now!:D
corkoniense
07-06-2009, 12:18 AM
looks like Sean martin will hang in there, but at least batt's son and Michael Martin's other brohters do not look like getting seats. keep gettin rid of those dynasties folks. Lorraine Kingston topped the poll in south central, tom o driscoll looks like he's gone. Looks like FF will end up with 7 seats on the city council, down from 10 in 2004 and 20 in 1999.
miahp
07-06-2009, 12:42 AM
Some achievement by Gibbons to get elected in SW.
Queer-Hawk
07-06-2009, 12:47 AM
Some achievement by Gibbons to get elected in SW.
some achievement by HENRY CREMIN!
Im fucking delighted fergal dennehy is gone!
CHANCE
07-06-2009, 02:42 PM
some achievement by HENRY CREMIN!
Im fucking delighted fergal dennehy is gone!
shit didnt see this thread. I posted another thread.
raZor
07-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Had a quick sconce around Brian Bermingham was haunted 6.5% of the votes, only 575 1st Preferences, ahead of Barry Keane who got 600 1st Prefs and 6.8% of the votes.
CHANCE
07-06-2009, 03:03 PM
summary of cork elections
http://www.rte.ie/news/elections/local/a04.html
learning irish
07-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Im fucking delighted fergal dennehy is gone![/QUOTE]
in fairness that man has done some amount of work for his constituency. give him a break,ff government fucked him up. the ff councillors are no worse workers then fg.
Queer-Hawk
07-06-2009, 08:33 PM
[/QUOTE]in fairness that man has done some amount of work for his constituency. give him a break,ff government fucked him up. the ff councillors are no worse workers then fg.[/QUOTE]
bollix! he was nothing but a drain to the people of togher, just like his auld man was.
CHANCE
07-06-2009, 08:34 PM
anyone see reeling in the years at half six ?
Queer-Hawk
07-06-2009, 09:06 PM
anyone see reeling in the years at half six ?
no, what year was it?
CHANCE
07-06-2009, 09:14 PM
no, what year was it?
1997 when it all started. Mary harney before she got to the free food on the government jet obviously. And bertie giving the big speech at the FF ard fheis about them not accepting people who mislead the public to remain in the party. lol the irony.
some achievement by HENRY CREMIN!
Im fucking delighted fergal dennehy is gone!
Cremin got 12%, just like he did in 2004.
He won a seat because there was an extra seat in the ward. I'd say Gibbons achievement is much greater.
Queer-Hawk
08-06-2009, 12:54 PM
Cremin got 12%, just like he did in 2004.
He won a seat because there was an extra seat in the ward. I'd say Gibbons achievement is much greater.
all in all though at least two decent candidates got elected, instead of that smack head Fergal Dennehy. but im still pissed off that Birmingham got in, i mean that man is a bit of a simpleton like!!
Saucyjack
08-06-2009, 12:55 PM
in fairness that man has done some amount of work for his constituency. give him a break,ff government fucked him up. the ff councillors are no worse workers then fg.[/QUOTE]
bollix! he was nothing but a drain to the people of togher, just like his auld man was.[/QUOTE]
Delighted for the Dennehys.
:eek:
all in all though at least two decent candidates got elected, instead of that smack head Fergal Dennehy. but im still pissed off that Birmingham got in, i mean that man is a bit of a simpleton like!!
What's most annoying with Bermingham is that the other FG candidate got more votes than him, but his tidy little transfer arrangement with Buttimer still hauled him over the line.
Not as bad as Cyprian Brady getting into the Dail having polled fewer than 1,000 vote, but irritating all the same.
Lamps
08-06-2009, 01:07 PM
Looking at how things panned out, I think the Cork Party would have picked up a few seats at the very least
Queer-Hawk
08-06-2009, 02:34 PM
Looking at how things panned out, I think the Cork Party would have picked up a few seats at the very least
whos the cork party??
Bennyton
08-06-2009, 03:48 PM
some achievement by HENRY CREMIN!
Im fucking delighted fergal dennehy is gone!
Cremin's one of the most down to earth politicians I've ever come across, he got my general vote 2 years ago, delighted he got a seat.
Bennyton
08-06-2009, 03:52 PM
also shocked that Ken Ahern didn't get a seat, Jim Corr was a measley 7 voted ahead of him, Jim Corr like, FFS, Mockery.
Actin The Sham
08-06-2009, 04:24 PM
Looking at how things panned out, I think the Cork Party would have picked up a few seats at the very least
I agree 100%.
Maybe we will have to spend four years planning.
7 votes on first preferences, but then there was a FG surplus to give out.
Jim Corr is actually alright.
He's the only candidate who put a leaflet through the door which said "This is what I'd like Cork to be like in 5 years time". The others just rattled on about their record in getting things retarmaced or the level of their community involvement.
Peggy's Leg
08-06-2009, 05:52 PM
Cork party sounds like a plan.
KolaKubes
09-06-2009, 12:37 AM
looks like Sean martin will hang in there, but at least batt's son and Michael Martin's other brohters do not look like getting seats. keep gettin rid of those dynasties folks. Lorraine Kingston topped the poll in south central, tom o driscoll looks like he's gone. Looks like FF will end up with 7 seats on the city council, down from 10 in 2004 and 20 in 1999.
They had 20 seats in 1999?
I was just coming on the thread to enquire what the fuck is wrong with Cork City people to say the FF vote stayed relatively strong?
Is it just poor levels of education or plain stupidity?
FF wiped out in Wa'erfor', Dublin and Limerick urban areas. County areas nearly as bad.
FF took
- 20.7% in Galway
- 20.1% in Cork
- 18.1% in Dublin
- 12.5% in Waterford
- 12.5% in Limerick
Obviously, Dell and Waterford Glass had pretty substantial knock on effects in both those places.
The main difference between Cork and Dublin was the size of the wards.
Cork has 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7.
Dublin has 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6
If the southside of Cork had been split up as 4, 4, 5, 5, I doubt FF would have taken any seats in the 4 seaters and depending on the location, may have struggled in the 5 seaters (the FF vote particularly tanked in middle-class areas such as Douglas, Ballinlough and Blackrock).
One other factor that has always kept the FF vote up a bit in Cork is the number of over 65s who have been loyal to the party ever since Jack Lynch was Taoiseach. You get a similar effect in parts of Dublin from Haughey. Before Lynch was around, Cork was probably one of FF's weakest spots in the country - they never got more than 2 of 5. Suddenly after he was Taoiseach, they were winning 4 of 5. A lot of those voters are still alive and have stayed with the party and it keeps their percentage up by a significant, but declining percent at every election.
Lewis Hamiltons Hat
09-06-2009, 01:53 PM
Looking at how things panned out, I think the Cork Party would have picked up a few seats at the very least
id have waltz in on me transport proposals alone.
who doesnt want a travellator from the park and ride into cork like
o_2_b_a_rebel
09-06-2009, 03:35 PM
id have waltz in on me transport proposals alone.
who doesnt want a travellator from the park and ride into cork like
Or the proposal to use the old rail line from the Marina to Mahon to bring shoppers from the city centre to Mahon Point...
-Lets bring shoppers from a place that already has all the shops, to a place that has some of these shops, to shop.
-We will create a major infrastructural public transport system to get them there as it is on the outskirts of the city and has only load and laods of parking that we can ignore.
Genius proposal there in fairness Naff.
Lewis Hamiltons Hat
12-06-2009, 08:16 AM
Or the proposal to use the old rail line from the Marina to Mahon to bring shoppers from the city centre to Mahon Point...
-Lets bring shoppers from a place that already has all the shops, to a place that has some of these shops, to shop.
-We will create a major infrastructural public transport system to get them there as it is on the outskirts of the city and has only load and laods of parking that we can ignore.
Genius proposal there in fairness Naff.
people are going to mahon point anyway.
you cant do much with the traffic problems of the tunnel.
were going to get a light rail to blackpool/blarney etc.
that light rail will go to blackrock, mahon, rochestown and even onto carrigaline if you want
then you have the whole midleton line and along the way
thats 3 sides of the city with light rail/luas type systems
but i suppose you think thats a bad idea!!
grand chap
o_2_b_a_rebel
12-06-2009, 11:00 AM
people are going to mahon point anyway.
you cant do much with the traffic problems of the tunnel.
were going to get a light rail to blackpool/blarney etc.
that light rail will go to blackrock, mahon, rochestown and even onto carrigaline if you want
then you have the whole midleton line and along the way
thats 3 sides of the city with light rail/luas type systems
but i suppose you think thats a bad idea!!
grand chap
There was a reason for that rail line being in place before and unfortunatly the costs involved of getting it back out to Rochestown or Carrigaline are probably going to prevent it from operating for a very long time. So there was always a business case arguement to some degree to have a route there.
Your brainchild was based on the fanciful idea that there was going to be a big demand for shoppers to get from the city centre out to Mahon Point to shop.
Forget the fact that almost none of these shoppers will live in the city centre and will need to get a cab or bus in there first to continue out to Mahon.
Also forget the fact that most of the Mahon shops are replicated at the place where you think the journey shoud begin so besides the 'spin' factor there is no reason to go out there.
Forget also the ample free parking at Mahon Point (the ability to provide much parking is often a major contributing factor in the decision to have a shopping centre outside the city believe it or not).
Whatever your day job is Naff, please stick to it as you probably slightly overestimate your planning nous.
As an idea for linking two shopping centres, maybe it's not so hot, but there are a few reasons why it might be considered.
As the alignment is already publicly owned, the cost of building comes down, improving any business case
There's a not insignificant population along the line. Aside from the existing populations of Blackrock and Mahon, the new developments at Eden and Jacob's Island have put some pretty high densities along the line
Future Cork Docklands development
Access to Pairc Ui Chaoimh
Don't write it off just yet.
o_2_b_a_rebel
12-06-2009, 11:56 AM
As an idea for linking two shopping centres, maybe it's not so hot, but there are a few reasons why it might be considered.
As the alignment is already publicly owned, the cost of building comes down, improving any business case
There's a not insignificant population along the line. Aside from the existing populations of Blackrock and Mahon, the new developments at Eden and Jacob's Island have put some pretty high densities along the line
Future Cork Docklands development
Access to Pairc Ui Chaoimh
Don't write it off just yet.
The route is there - it just needs a service installed. As i said above, there is potentially a business case to have a service just as there has been to some degree for years (considering that this is an actual rail line which was providing this service before). Of course in reality what are the chances of its fruition though?
The problem was that the Naff's bright idea was based on the principle of getting the hoardes of city centre based old ladies and their wheeled baggies out to Mahon point to go to Champion Sports, Tesco, Debs, Easons and McD's. Naff loves dem shoppin centres so he does.
For this idea he reckoned that he should be the next Minister for Transport...
Lewis Hamiltons Hat
14-06-2009, 05:09 PM
The route is there - it just needs a service installed. As i said above, there is potentially a business case to have a service just as there has been to some degree for years (considering that this is an actual rail line which was providing this service before). Of course in reality what are the chances of its fruition though?
The problem was that the Naff's bright idea was based on the principle of getting the hoardes of city centre based old ladies and their wheeled baggies out to Mahon point to go to Champion Sports, Tesco, Debs, Easons and McD's. Naff loves dem shoppin centres so he does.
For this idea he reckoned that he should be the next Minister for Transport...
you havent a clue lad!!
not a clue.
ill get back to ya when they update it. My point was and still is, having a stop for mahon point would help fund the line and i always said that it would have to carry on past mahon point. The line also encourages people to come into the city centre. Were going to have the light rail stopping at blackpool shopping centre
why dont you go up to dublin, hop on the luas and go out to dundrum shopping centre. its great!!
o_2_b_a_rebel
15-06-2009, 11:15 AM
you havent a clue lad!!
not a clue.
ill get back to ya when they update it. My point was and still is, having a stop for mahon point would help fund the line and i always said that it would have to carry on past mahon point. The line also encourages people to come into the city centre. Were going to have the light rail stopping at blackpool shopping centre
why dont you go up to dublin, hop on the luas and go out to dundrum shopping centre. its great!!
Not a big fan of shopping centres Naff. I leave that for my old doll ;)
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