Quinny Poll

[cit_gym_rat]

Just want to get peoples reation to this in a Poll

[cit_gym_rat]

jesus i could have used a bit of punctuation in that poll

[daflange]

ffs he hardly touched him looked like he just rubbed his hand on him

[ANVIL]

After Croft played a blinder today Quinlan should be shitting himself.

[tim the trip]

ffs he hardly touched him looked like he just rubbed his hand on him

turns out its all bullshit.

[CathedralRoad]

Quinny is a saint

[leftback]

His experience will be a big loss to the British Lions.

[Mick Lyons]

His hands-on experience will be a big loss to the British Lions.

I agree.

[buds]

hes a fucking idiot....he will be banned now and miss the lions tour....rules are rules

[raZor]

hes a fucking idiot....he will be banned now and miss the lions tour....rules are rules

I read somewhere that he was cited under a different rule than the normal one for gouging. Apparently alot has to do with players testimonials Corry being sanctioned after a statement from the Ospreys player, Cullen has already talked down the incident. Interesting times ahead...

[captainshamrock]

Not really sure from the video if he did gouge him or he was pulling on the face but it was contact with the eyes and he didn't let go instantly so he has to get a ban. You have to discourage anything that comes close to gouging and a long ban is the only way to do this. Best got 18 weeks for a much worse one and Haskell(complete cunt) hung him at the hearing so who knows what will happen once the politics get started. 4 week ban ending the day he sets foot in SA would not be beyond the bounds of possibility but there would rightly be outrage.

[BangorFeen]

I'm sorry but Quinlan's case is cut and dried. The marks around Cullen's eyes are there for all to see. He's been cited and should be found guilty. Gouging is a nasty, shitty thing to do and his ban should be a nice long one.

http://farm4.static.flickr. com/3417/3494832064_8f6c41203 7.jpg

[Mick Lyons]

He was particularly sly about it as well.
Tried to disguise it as the old hand across the face manouevre while leaving one finger sticking out.
I'd wager this isn't the first time he's done it.

[Rebel Yell]

The photo looks bad...makes it look worse than i originally thought...

He could get a long ban over this...

[ANVIL]

I've a feeling he'll get off, particularly as Cullen doesn't seem to be making a song and dance about it.
Poor form though.
When's the hearing, anyone know ?

[BangorFeen]

I've a feeling he'll get off, particularly as Cullen doesn't seem to be making a song and dance about it.
Poor form though.
When's the hearing, anyone know ?
It won't matter. The minimum is 12 weeks SFAIK.

[KD Langer]

i'm still waiting for the national outrage. because you can be gauranteed in a couple of weeks when a few GAA players shove one another around it will be seen as the end of civilisation. but eye gouging in rugby. sure mick galwey is already on record as saying "era it's worse than it looks".

[BangorFeen]

i'm still waiting for the national outrage. because you can be gauranteed in a couple of weeks when a few GAA players shove one another around it will be seen as the end of civilisation. but eye gouging in rugby. sure mick galwey is already on record as saying "era it's worse than it looks".
Plenty of outrage for you over on Munsterfans with respect to this if you'd bothered to look

[HappyMonday83]

i'm still waiting for the national outrage. because you can be gauranteed in a couple of weeks when a few GAA players shove one another around it will be seen as the end of civilisation. but eye gouging in rugby. sure mick galwey is already on record as saying "era it's worse than it looks".

The pro jock media will brush this under the carpet as usual. I don't know how many of ye have ever been gouged but if sure as fuck not "worse than it looks".

[KD Langer]

Plenty of outrage for you over on Munsterfans with respect to this if you'd bothered to look

fiar play to most of the munster fans on here. most have condemned it and said he should get the max for it. but the media are doing their looking the other way act for the most part. which they always do when it comes to their beloved rugby. but wait until ronaldo moans about something tonight. there'll be articles calling for him to shot in an afgan football stadium.

[KD Langer]

The pro jock media will brush this under the carpet as usual. I don't know how many of ye have ever been gouged but if sure as fuck not "worse than it looks".

never been gouged, but have accidentedly had a thumb stick in my eye when jumping or a ball while playing football. sore doesn't do it justice.

[BangorFeen]

The pro jock media will brush this under the carpet as usual. I don't know how many of ye have ever been gouged but if sure as fuck not "worse than it looks".
This can't be brushed under the carpet FFS. He's been cited. It's a matter of record. All the newspapers have it as their sports leader this morning.

[Coin]

The pro jock media will brush this under the carpet as usual. I don't know how many of ye have ever been gouged but if sure as fuck not "worse than it looks".
It's not worse than it looks? Are you sure about that?

[Mick Lyons]

This can't be brushed under the carpet FFS. He's been cited. It's a matter of record. All the newspapers have it as their sports leader this morning.

It's purely a matter of record though.
Where's the moral indignation?
Where's the editorial condemnation?
He could have blinded him.
It's very easy for the media to adopt a wait and see approach when the GAA isn't involved.
The Meath and Dublin footballers were hung drawn and quartered last year and for what?
Rugby gets a ridiculously easy ride when it comes to disciplinary issues.
"Oh but they have so much respect for the referee!"
They'd be better off having a bit more respect for each others eyes.

[BangorFeen]

It's purely a matter of record though.
Where's the moral indignation?
Where's the editorial condemnation?
He could have blinded him.
It's very easy for the media to adopt a wait and see approach when the GAA isn't involved.
The Meath and Dublin footballers were hung drawn and quartered last year and for what?
Rugby gets a ridiculously easy ride when it comes to disciplinary issues.
"Oh but they have so much respect for the referee!"
They'd be better off having a bit more respect for each others eyes.
There's plenty of it. gouging has been creeping incrementally back in to rugby over the last number of years and it needs to be done away with once again

[KD Langer]

It's purely a matter of record though.
Where's the moral indignation?
Where's the editorial condemnation?
He could have blinded him.
It's very easy for the media to adopt a wait and see approach when the GAA isn't involved.
The Meath and Dublin footballers were hung drawn and quartered last year and for what?
Rugby gets a ridiculously easy ride when it comes to disciplinary issues.
"Oh but they have so much respect for the referee!"
They'd be better off having a bit more respect for each others eyes.

it's kind of like the way people look back at the kray twins. they weren't that bad really and sure they were good boys to their mam.

[BlackAvon08]

It's purely a matter of record though.
Where's the moral indignation?
Where's the editorial condemnation?
He could have blinded him.
It's very easy for the media to adopt a wait and see approach when the GAA isn't involved.
The Meath and Dublin footballers were hung drawn and quartered last year and for what?
Rugby gets a ridiculously easy ride when it comes to disciplinary issues.
"Oh but they have so much respect for the referee!"
They'd be better off having a bit more respect for each others eyes.

Nail on the head.

Ditto the "SempleGate" bullshit a few years back

[liam2me]

i don't think that it was intentional by any means, his reaction at the time, and afterwards, as well as Cullens gives credibility to this claim. it looks like he was grasping at something, and it just happens to be Cullens face that he gets, not that he was going looking for it

[How bad boy]

As I said in the other thread, if it wasn't intentional, then it was dangerously clumsy.

I dunno, I've been in a similar situation in the rugby pitch, where you grab someone's face by mistake and really, it's difficult to mistake it for any other part of the body. I would think the gloves make it more difficult but really, he knew he had him around the head and, in that situation, one should be careful not to grab anything too hard.

I think he should get the minimum 12 week ban. A moment of stupidity and carelessness, which should be made an example of. No interaction with the face of opposition players should be tolerated.

[daflange]

I'm sorry but Quinlan's case is cut and dried. The marks around Cullen's eyes are there for all to see. He's been cited and should be found guilty. Gouging is a nasty, shitty thing to do and his ban should be a nice long one.

http://farm4.static.flickr. com/3417/3494832064_8f6c41203 7.jpg

opinion changed that photo looks a lot worse than what i saw on the video eerrah tis too cold to be heading to south africa this time of year anyway

[Mick Lyons]

See the way Cullen is desperately closing his eye as tightly as possible?
There is a significant amount of pressure being applied there.

[Eoin]

It was a stupid thing to do and I agree with BangorFeen, he needs to be punished for it.

Only saw it properly for the first time today, but there's no doubt in my mind what he was doing.

[raZor]

I've said it before but its up to Cullen how serious it gets treated, Haskell was responsible for the statement that got Best that ban. Would be an outrage if he gets away with it, expect an appeal from Tom Croft.

[rebelgirl83]

With or without the testament of Cullen or Cheika or his Munster team-mates, Quinlan should get a hefty ban. The last thing he deserves is a place on the Lions tour after such a dispicable act.

[raZor]

Ya chalk it, I'm just talking about the precedence, there's also something to do with him being cited under a different article than the normal procedure that Best et al got done for.

[rebelgirl83]

Yeah, it will be interesting to see what the outcome is. Surely he's a gonner for SA though?

[HappyMonday83]

Anyone found guilty of gouging should be issued a lifetime ban. It's the only was to get scum like this out of the game.

[raZor]

Anyone found guilty of gouging should be issued a lifetime ban. It's the only was to get scum like this out of the game.

Well if Stevens gets a 3 year ban for bringing the game into direpute then I dont see why gouging should be any different, especialy considering this was a world recordgame and all that. Won't make a difference for Quinlan probably only has a season left in him anyway.

[HappyMonday83]

Well if Stevens gets a 3 year ban for bringing the game into direpute then I dont see why gouging should be any different, especialy considering this was a world recordgame and all that. Won't make a difference for Quinlan probably only has a season left in him anyway.

Excellent point with stevens.

[POL]

Anyone found guilty of gouging should be issued a lifetime ban. It's the only was to get scum like this out of the game.
he should be in prison

[ho chi feen]

Why would Niall Quinn be going on tour with the loyns?

[liam2me]

thought this might be relevant

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/my_club/gloucester/8012688.stm

[POL]

The Arish jocks are pulling together, trying to get this beast off the charges

[Langer Dan]

Trying to poke a fella's eye out is all part of the fun of sport.
Who hasn't attempted to blind a fellow player.
These things happen.

Quinny is a great guy and I'm sure if he tried to blind Leo Cullen it was an accident and they had a few pints afterwards.

[Lamps]

Has the animal himself said anything?

[Langer Dan]

Nope, too busy hiding behind the Arish Jock's petticoats.


Quinny is a real guy you'd want in the trenches with you, a 'master of the dark arts'.

[POL]

They even wheeled out some Leinster lad yesterday on Newstalk who tried to say it was an accident. FFS